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ss400ex
11-15-2006, 06:03 PM
Looks like a good idea what do you guys think?? Anyone have the widening kit?
Here (http://stores.ebay.com/Diamond-J-Customs_W0QQsspagenameZMEQ3aFQ3aSTQQtZkm)

exrider008
11-15-2006, 06:14 PM
DO NOT GET THAT KIT!!!!!!!!

i had it on my 300ex and it sucked. it handled like crap and had a CHIT load of bumpsteer.

YFZ450 11x
11-15-2006, 08:13 PM
Looks week:blah:

CannondaleRider
11-15-2006, 09:47 PM
Yeah, so thats pretty much a *****ty idea....

86 Quad R
11-16-2006, 12:13 PM
if you look REAL closely. the reason it makes for a chitty handle and created the bump steer is because it changed the angle of the tie rod setup in relationship to the a-arms. the tie rod assembly needs to be parrallel to the a-arms. :cool:

in order for this design to work the points where the a-arms pivot, needs to be lower.

400exrider707
11-16-2006, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by 86 Quad R
if you look REAL closely. the reason it makes for a chitty handle and created the bump steer is because it changed the angle of the tie rod setup in relationship to the a-arms. the tie rod assembly needs to be parrallel to the a-arms. :cool:

in order for this design to work the points where the a-arms pivot, needs to be lower.

The bumpsteer on this kit is created because of the tie-rod pivot point. The tie rod mount needs to be directly in line with the a-arm mounting points on the frame. This is what causes bumpsteer even more severely than not having it parallel.

86 Quad R
11-16-2006, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by 400exrider707
The tie rod mount needs to be directly in line with the a-arm mounting points on the frame. This is what causes bumpsteer even more severely than not having it parallel.

not necesserily true. the bump steer comes into play for reasons i stated due to the fact that while having the tie rods(not) parallel to the a-arms and the quads suspension is under use, causes the front tires(whether they are on even terrain or uneven) to change its tow in settings, just by the sagging of the suspension alone. when traveling in uneven(rough) terrain this affect is even greater and therefor the bumpsteer is even worse.

parkers30
11-16-2006, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by 86 Quad R
if you look REAL closely. the reason it makes for a chitty handle and created the bump steer is because it changed the angle of the tie rod setup in relationship to the a-arms. the tie rod assembly needs to be parrallel to the a-arms. :cool:

in order for this design to work the points where the a-arms pivot, needs to be lower.

All that is going to do is make it parallel at full droop, at some point in the travel they are already parallel. There is no real way to fix the design unless you were to creat intermediate tie rods, somewhat like Polaris's steering on the Predator

86 Quad R
11-16-2006, 03:41 PM
look a LIL bit closer. with the geometry of that setup, the tie rods will never be parrallel.