Best Freestyle quad...

[Titanium]

Whats the best quad for freestyle. i've heard the yfz's are best and i've heard that 400ex's are. i love my kfx but im startin' to get into freestyle a little more and was wondering wat my next quad should be.

[bigbadbubba]

i would go ltr or trx

[DEAL]

Yfz seems to by a good choice .. light, power, nice low gas tank.

[Mxjunkie]

Originally posted by DEAL
Yfz seems to by a good choice .. light, power, nice low gas tank.

Ya a lot of the akraix boy's run them, I do notice a lot of Honda's out there as well though..

And the crazy guy over in europe doing it on a Banshee, he's my hero :blah:

[stocktires]

Hybrids :devil:

[Ruby Soho]

250ex:D haha just kidding.

YFZ is probably the most popular one

[brad7131]

There isn't really a "best," it's more along the lines of what you feel comfortable jumping, and what you think feels best in the air. Yes, alot of people use the YFZ, but there are also alot of 450R freestyle riders. You don't see too many LT-R freestyle riders, but it may just be because it's still fairly new. Most people start on 400ex's since they're so easy to flick around, but as long as you kind of know what you're doing, you can do well, or even learn on just about anything. I know of people doing freestyle on Raptor 660's and 700's.

[KingpinsEx]

I don't understand why we don't see many or anything (that i know of) hybrid quads used in freestyling. It makes perfect sense, there is no class so they can run whatever they want. Why not have a stronger frame, more powerful engine...it seems like the way to go for freestyle but you rarley see anyone doing it...just odd in my mind. But i see any hybrid as being the ultimate freestyle quad, as long as they are built right!

[stocktires]

Hybrids can be much lighter too. I'm not sure why no one uses them for FMX either....Odd

[Ruby Soho]

atv freestyle isnt all that old either, nor are the 450 hyrbrids everyone is making now. give it time, youll probably see them come into the sport

[jesshamner]

Ok, who wants to put 25 grand in a quad and trash it? Doesn't make any sense to use a hybrid. Just ride what you feel comfortable on.

[Mc. Muffin]

^ You want trash it if you know how to freestyle:devil:

Back to topic:
I personally like the YFZ for FMX...
IMO different people are good on different machines;)

[jesshamner]

You think you're going to land a trick every time?

[pharit]

Ol Garrent Engelstad used to rock a LTZ so idk why a KFX wouldn't work

plus rockman the guy i ride with freestyle's his ltz

[Mc. Muffin]

Originally posted by jesshamner
You think you're going to land a trick every time?
People might land a trick every time but the landing is what gets them most of the time;)lol
But no I don't think I will land a trick every time...

Mc Muffin

[pharit]

Originally posted by jesshamner
Ok, who wants to put 25 grand in a quad and trash it? Doesn't make any sense to use a hybrid. Just ride what you feel comfortable on.

Well racing a 25 thousand dollar quad and freestyling would be puttin it under the same kinda stress, so i don't see why not.

you can come up short on a double just as easy as you can come up short on a ramp.

and over shoot it just the same so idk why you wouldn't

[KingpinsEx]

Originally posted by jesshamner
Ok, who wants to put 25 grand in a quad and trash it? Doesn't make any sense to use a hybrid. Just ride what you feel comfortable on.

Umm maybe brand new with all the best, one would run 25k. But used you can pick up full modded top of the line hybrid for around 8k. Plus anyone who freestyles professionaly is most likely sponsored, so most parts they break are prolly free or close to it.

You are right though, who wants to spend all the money and trash it, thus us an aftermarket "stronger" frame. The modded production quads hold up fine to freestyle abuse so why wouldn't an aftermarket??

The reason i figure is maybe they are getting some factory support to use production quads. Notice how the majority of Akaraix run YFZ's, they may have some kind of deal going on??

And Ruby, hybrids have been around for a long time and freestyle even longer. Remeber Tim Farr and all the other pros running the 426 motor in the late ninteies i believe? Anyways the 450s are relatively new but people have been using the 426 in quads for sometime now...

[jesshamner]

It just doesn't make any sense to build a custom hybrid to freestyle on. How many pro freestyle guys buy used quads? You don't need that kind of power that a hybrid produces anyway. If a production 450 has enough power then there is no reason to spend that kind of money to build one.


How many times do you think Guetter thrashed his bike while trying the backflip? You're telling me it makes sense to thrash a $25,000 quad when you can thrash an $8,000 quad instead?

[KingpinsEx]

Maybe not for Guetter, thats prolly why he started doing them on a competely stock bike. Once he got better at them he started running a full modded quad. But for normal freestyle those guys are running way over 8k on there production bikes anyway. It all the same parts with the exception of the frame, which they spend money guessting anyway. Might as well have a stronger chassis that may withstand an impact then one that will just get trashed for sure.... I've seen some pretty nasty wrecks that have not totally destroyed quads. I guess what i am tryin to say is the stuff that normally breaks would break on either type of quad aside from the frame. So why not run a stronger setup.

Plus when you are trying to clear the size of gaps 140+ft that they are now, it seems to me like they need all the power they can get!

Most people arent attempting backflips all the time and that's why they start out in foam pits, so they don't destroy quads or themselves...just my thoughts on what the best freestyle quad was, that's all take it for what it is. Im done...

[pharit]

Originally posted by jesshamner
It just doesn't make any sense to build a custom hybrid to freestyle on. How many pro freestyle guys buy used quads? You don't need that kind of power that a hybrid produces anyway. If a production 450 has enough power then there is no reason to spend that kind of money to build one.


How many times do you think Guetter thrashed his bike while trying the backflip? You're telling me it makes sense to thrash a $25,000 quad when you can thrash an $8,000 quad instead?

i'm not saying go out and spend 25,000 on a hybrid to freestyle but there are some people on this site that run a hybrids. and it would be fine if they used that instead of buying a brand new bike.

but i agree with you it does not make sense to go out and build a hybrid for freestyle. a stock ltz/yfz/450r has more than enough power to jump a gap.

[jesshamner]

I just don't think it makes sense to build a custom bike when you can get a stock bike and put the suspension on and do anything you want. Which would cost a little more than 8k.

[pharit]

Originally posted by jesshamner
I just don't think it makes sense to build a custom bike when you can get a stock bike and put the suspension on and do anything you want. Which would cost a little more than 8k.

i'm not saying build a custom bike. but some people have built there hybrids for other reasons than to freestyle. What are they supposed to do sell there quad they are comfortable on and get on a brand new one they have no seat time on.

but there are a couple people here that do freestyle hybrids, i beleive rootar he has a hybrid, and i don't think he built that bike strically to freestyle. i'm sure there was another reason.

[stocktires]

Originally posted by jesshamner
I just don't think it makes sense to build a custom bike when you can get a stock bike and put the suspension on and do anything you want. Which would cost a little more than 8k.

The quads the top freestylers are riding are more expensive than $8k, more like $10k+.
Hybrids can be had for $5-6k these days. $1.5k into them and they are like new.
Hybrids are lighter, handle better, soak up jumps better, faster, AND stronger.

[Titanium]

Originally posted by pharit
Ol Garrent Engelstad used to rock a LTZ so idk why a KFX wouldn't work

plus rockman the guy i ride with freestyle's his ltz

im just worried about the frames strength and was wonderin if im wastin my time doin freestyle on a quad with a weak frame. plus i like the fact that the YFZ's have lower gas tanks allowing me to move around the bike better.

[Rootar]

Originally posted by pharit
i'm not saying build a custom bike. but some people have built there hybrids for other reasons than to freestyle. What are they supposed to do sell there quad they are comfortable on and get on a brand new one they have no seat time on.

but there are a couple people here that do freestyle hybrids, i beleive rootar he has a hybrid, and i don't think he built that bike strically to freestyle. i'm sure there was another reason.

youre right, my 416 Had plenty of power to hit my ramp, I do really like my hybrid for freestyle but some times i dont, you have to be careful just this past saturday i ate **** hard on my hybrid, i used hit my ramp with a slight more throttle going up my ramp on my 416 yet with my hybrid you get completely up to speed before hand and just ride it off. saturday i forgot this and well i dunno what i was thinking but i landed straight up i was almost ready to bail off the back but i figured it be better to hold on and try to ride it out, but i still fell off the back when i hit anyways. i didnt get hurt, jsut a couple scratches on my back and a bruised shoulder.

if all i did was freestyle i would have kept my 416 and used my money to build another ramp and a bigger compound, but got started racing and once i started racing i got the bug and i quickly found myself underpowered on the track, thats why i built my hybrid

btw you can gusset frames and they can be rewelded when they braek this is pretty normal

[pharit]

Originally posted by Titanium
im just worried about the frames strength and was wonderin if im wastin my time doin freestyle on a quad with a weak frame. plus i like the fact that the YFZ's have lower gas tanks allowing me to move around the bike better.

Well i thought in 05 the fixed all the frame problems along with upgrading the suspension.

rockman has an 05 and everythhing is holding up i wouldn't worry about it.

But if you are a gusset kit is the way to go.

[rockman]

Originally posted by pharit
Well i thought in 05 the fixed all the frame problems along with upgrading the suspension.

rockman has an 05 and everythhing is holding up i wouldn't worry about it.

But if you are a gusset kit is the way to go.
Yep they fixed MOST of the frame issues with '05 and the suspension is like night and day between the two. I love my z for freestyle. Some people don't like the weight factor, but i don't see a problem. My only problem is i'm stiff and getting a beer belly going on:eek2:

[KY250r]

the 250r use to be top dog, now as much as i hate to say this the 450r or yfz runs it........bring back the 250r lol.

[pharit]

Originally posted by KY250r
the 250r use to be top dog, now as much as i hate to say this the 450r or yfz runs it........bring back the 250r lol.

ain't happenin brother. but i wish it would too......

[xwarriorx]

i think the whole money issue on the pro quads is a moo point. i mean they make the money or are sponsored by companies and or manufactures. you think guys like dana creech ans jon guetter or who ever pay out of pocket for their quads think again its all paid for. on that note really with a 400 and up and suspension you can do anything. by the time your hitting 150 foot jumps believe me youll be sponsored so dont worry just go. I RIDE A WARRIOR SO just go do it.

[z400rida44]

id have to say the yfz or 450r but a hybrid would be great also if you could find one at the right price.

[Nausty]

w/e the **** you want. Check out sheldon riggs on a stock raptor in the huevos video.

Right now i'm in fort hood texas, roughing it w/ my dads stock 400ex. We built a pretty decent ramp w/ shovels. We spent like 3 hours shoveling a natural hill and built a pretty badass little 40ft table. My buddy who helped build it was a badass in the day on bmx bikes and builds perfect faces, w/ perfect lips. I'm gonna have to post up some pics. It surpised me how quick and easy we built a jump w/ shovels. Got heel clickers and can can locked down again and goin for the no footed can, nothings and cliffhangers next time.

I havn't been riding at all for the past two years or so it was a freeking blast riding again! It was so much fun!

[spanky101]

best is a varying term from person to person. some people love the way a yfz feels for them an dothers cant stand it. go out and try to ride em all and come up with a conclusion

[redrider330]

id say 4 whellies and whelie tricks either a 300ex or a 400ex but 4 jumpin and stunts like that id go with trx 450