STD. Bore VS. 0.80 over

[Cannonball08]

If i were to run a 11.1 piston at .80 over, how much of a gain would I see vs. 11.1 in a standard bore? Is it worth the money to get it bored? also what kind of piston do you all recommend? wieseco or JE?
thanks

YOu'll see some difference but probably not too much I wouldn't think...you need to get a new cam with it too,,if you don't get a cam then I wouldn't bother putting a new piston in it...JE piston's are what most of us out here use..:macho

[Cannonball08]

I have a XR 400 cam in it now, not a whole lot of diff. from the stock. What would be a good Drop in cam?

I'd just leave the cam in there and do the 80 over bore,,you'll like the power increase..cam and pistons normally should be swapped out together to get the full picture..

[Extremeracer167]

TC makes the best cam out there HANDS DOWN. And Wiseco pistons are 10X's better then that JE crap. It is made of better materials. Go with a TC cam, exhaust, and 80 over, and that thing will outrun and 440 kit out there. Mine is bored 120 over (as far as u can go with the stock cylinder) which makes it a 425, and i can outrun any 440 kit. ANd its Totally reliable!!

Extreme
www.tcracingengines.com

Originally posted by Extremeracer167
And Wiseco pistons are 10X's better then that JE crap. It is made of better materials.

Extreme
www.tcracingengines.com

But there made at the same place..how are they better??

and you think a 120 over bore is more reliable than a 80 over??:confused: :huh :confused: :huh

[Extremeracer167]

I didnt say 120 over is more reliable dil*o i said mine is 120 over and is totally reliable? Lets see if we can learn to read right?

[MIKE400EX]

That wasn't called for!:huh

[phatswinn]

umm, ur talkin to boss there dumass... prolly a dumb move

[Dave400ex]

Well simmer down there TC does have a Good Cam but I doubt it`s the best out there. Also Rico is not the guy to mouth off to.

[kicken250x]

that was fu(ked up dude!! he just read it wrong i guess. you didnt have to be an ***** about it. just correct and let it be done with. and yea like phatswinn said bad move buddy.learn some fu(kin manners!!!!!!!:grr :huh

[Tommy 17]

i have rode a stock bore and my 406 bore and the cams were differnt i have a tc mx he had a xr cam and i felt a noticable differnce in mine... everything else was eactly the same between the 2... i think it was mostly my cam...

[ridered86]

rico wheres the push to exit button? extremeracer167 have you realized what youve done now?...real dumb move.

:huh :eek:

[400exRacerX]

Originally posted by Extremeracer167
I didnt say 120 over is more reliable dil*o i said mine is 120 over and is totally reliable? Lets see if we can learn to read right?

It isnt your time of month again,, now is it??:p

[phatswinn]

yea red button time for the new comer, hes gotta learn some manners and to be nice or hes gunna wind up like sleeping catfish did back in the day

[Leo]

Originally posted by Extremeracer167
TC makes the best cam out there HANDS DOWN. And Wiseco pistons are 10X's better then that JE crap. It is made of better materials.

Does TC make their own cams, or just re-package them like everyone else?... <lol / grin>

JE crap?... <lol / sigh>

Didn't take this thread long to spiral into the toilet.. Can't wait to see Rico's responce in the morning to this one...

Leo

Originally posted by Extremeracer167
I didnt say 120 over is more reliable dil*o i said mine is 120 over and is totally reliable? Lets see if we can learn to read right?

Well lady you caught me in a good mood so I'll just laugh at this one..:huh :blah

PS..I've read several of your post and your attitude is stinking up the site..:eek:

[Dave400ex]

Show him the Red Button. If it isn`t Axis or TC it sucks. lol

[Cannonball08]

I thought JE was the piston to get? Is wiesco really better?

Originally posted by Cannonball08
I thought JE was the piston to get

It is...:D

[Tommy 17]

je is the best piston... i was told its lighter then the wiseco so it will rev faster and something about a oil ring is bigger and it will help ur engine live longer...


tc racing uses regrind cams leo... i had to send my stock cam back for a core charge...

[ride300exred]

I will have to say the best drop in's would have to be the TC mx grind and the HRC
With the hotcams stage 2 right behind
Also the Tc uses almost the smae grind as the webcams but regrinds it so it works even better .
Well Hope I helped .
Kris
PS
Wiseco and JE are made by the same company now wiseco bought them out , I've heard goodand bad about both of these
They even out to be the same .
Just dont go too high on compression
Kris

[rookiex]

That dude was a jerk......lets put down race terms then talk trash.......:grr ....... shame on him!!!!!!!!!!

[JabberJaw]

Well next time I am shopping for a dildo, I will make sure to get the 80.

[Dave400ex]

Yeah I think JE`s are also better. Wiseco doesn`t suck though. I know if I get the Kit TC tells me to, I will be running a Wiseco.

[kicken250x]

warriorman, you said "if it isn't Axis or TC it sucks" lol you have elka shocks. i dont get it lol.........and Rico, i thought you would have gone bilistic on him lol

[Dave400ex]

No I was saying that about Extremeracer167. He likes TC and Axis and nothing else. It was a Joke. lol. I love my Shocks.

Originally posted by kicken250x
and Rico, i thought you would have gone bilistic on him lol

Nah,,he seems like a good dude we just got off on the wrong foot,,I'm sure things will be fine from this time on once he gets used to all the members out here and how they act or don't act..:cool:

[kicken250x]

oh ok lol...you got em all around or did you send your stock rear shock to them to get it revalved? how much were they if you dont mind me asking? later...

[Dave400ex]

I had my Rear Revalved. They seem ot be working well and I haven`t had to really adjust them at all. They are the best things I have ever bought for a Quad. The Fronts were $740 and the Rear was $315.

[99_400EX]

i have the JE 416 piston kit and i like it alot some people may not like them because they didnt let it harden by heating the piston up and letting it cool down several times im happy with it and i also put in a XR 400 cam and lits of other stuff the only bad thing is that it keeps wanting to flip over backwards when i get on it and about an hour a go i ate some dirt due to that problem:D

[kicken250x]

thats not as bad as i thought it would be i was thinking more along the lines of about 850 bucks for the front i think i might have to get some when i get my new bike. i might end up getting one with Axis shocks on it which do yall consider to be better? i know the Axis shocks cost like $1000 for front and abot that for the rear but i know price doesnt always equal quality. so which do yall think are better and why? thanks

[Dave400ex]

You getting a new 400ex? I got mine from Full Throttle MX. Check them out. I really like the Elka`s, but Axis are also nice. It is really your choice because you can`t go wrong with Elka, Axis, PEP or TCS.

[kicken250x]

it not new, its a '99. it has leager's +2 arms, axcaiber(sp?) +2+2 axle, 440 kit, holeshots ya know the works its 3800 i thought that was pretty cheap for a full MX set up. the dude is in my drafting class at school and i know how he rides(not verry hard or good) and i know it is in pretty good condition, only 1 crack where the shock tower is. so i thought it would be a prety good deal i gotta sale mine first tho:( .

[Dave400ex]

Sounds like a Good Deal. All you will need is some Shocks and I would send the Frame out and have it Gusseted and Powdercoated.

[kicken250x]

its either gonna be the 440 or a banshee that is in pices in VA beach i want the 440 but i love the snappy powerband and speed of a banshee ive wanted one ever since i rode my cuzes last year so idk...