Cody's 400ex MX build up thread

[Pappy]

I will keep this thread updated as the build takes place as we turn a stock 2005 400ex into a MX'r!


As the quad was prior to this build, the only additions were some mx tires, hand gaurds and a bumper.

[Pappy]

The 450R shocks will be retained, and C&D Racing will revalve the fronts to suit the mx riding that this quad will be set up for. The rear shock will also be re-done and retained.


Walsh +2 standard travel arms, a HMF slip on, Hipers, ITP Holeshots, a CFM oil tank and a few other small aftermarket parts will be added along with a Quad-Tech scooped hood to dress up the looks.

[Pappy]

AC standard nerfs will be added for safety, along with a Pro Armor kill switch. An extended axle will bring the rear end in spec.


The quad was disassembled last night and I will begin working on parts today. This should be a relatively short build and I hope to have it completed in 2 weeks or so, but I wouldnt count on it.

[tar]

I can't wait to see this build!:D

[JR3]

Pappy if your gonna go walsh standard travel why not just go like a lonestar long travel front end with elka or something of that nature.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by JR3
Pappy if your gonna go walsh standard travel why not just go like a lonestar long travel front end with elka or something of that nature.

LOL...because I am not made of money and found the walsh stuff for dirt dirt dirt cheap:D

He will more then likely move to a 450 in 2008 so no need to dump ungodly amounts of money into the 400.

[JR3]

Yea i had my 400ex for a year put jrd long travel a arms custom axis etc etc it was a nasty 400ex but i got a 450 the next year so it was kinda dumb to dump all of that money into it but it made me a better rider.

[exrider008]

Originally posted by tar
I can't wait to see this build!:D

deff keep us updated!

[Crazy lil punk]

looks like its going to be sick, what happened to the 300ex?

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Crazy lil punk
looks like its going to be sick, what happened to the 300ex?

We still have it, but the 400 has more power for him to clear some of the bigger jumps at BPG. He tried the 70 footer 20 times and the 300 did not have enough to get over it.

[krt400ex]

this is gonna be good...how do those revalved 450R shocks work?

[Pappy]

All parts except the frame and sub are stripped and prep work has begun. Cody is shown here taping his hubs that will be coated tonight.

[AtvMxRider]

What colors are you going with Ken?

[Pappy]

Originally posted by AtvMxRider
What colors are you going with Ken?

Stealth frame and sub,swinger & arms, and i was thinking silver for all the small parts

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by Pappy
Stealth frame and sub,swinger & arms, and i was thinking silver for all the small parts


nice

[Pappy]

Just about finished, everything was done black

[Pappy]

More small parts

[Pappy]

and yet more parts:p

[Pappy]

Walsh arms are completed

[Pappy]

Pegs

[quadfamily]

since you did all the parts stealth are you still doing the frame stealth?

[Pappy]

Swing arm is ready for reassembly.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by quadfamily
since you did all the parts stealth are you still doing the frame stealth?

Thats the plan. Id like to spice it up more, but simplicity works wonders sometimes:p

[quadfamily]

you won't be able to see that quad at night! ;) What color plastics and wheels?

[Pappy]

We will be running the factory red and black fenders, a quadtech scooped hood and hiper rims

[quadfamily]

it actually sounds mean looking!

[MOFO]

Originally posted by Pappy
but simplicity works wonders sometimes:p


I agree! I can't wait to see the final pictures!

[fastyz85]

hey pappy where did you get the walsh a-arms because i looked on there site and i saw no 400ex a-arms.

[Pappy]

I found this set on ebay. Standard travel walsh arms for teh 400 in good shape are hard to find, I geuss i just got lucky!

[Pappy]

I gusseted his frame using one of Bare Performance's 17 point gusset kits, and bobbed the subframe so a removable grab bar can be installed. I should have it stripped and coated I am hoping by wednesday.

[krt400ex]

looks like it is coming along great...i love that black

[xrxmxcx]

looks good so far, cant wait to see some more progress!

[MX450]

Originally posted by fastyz85
hey pappy where did you get the walsh a-arms because i looked on there site and i saw no 400ex a-arms.

Acctually if you go on their site, look under "250R style long body"

"Fits he following ATVs..... 250R, 400EX, LTZ400, KFX400, CANNONDALE and a few others, so call if you want them for a different model, they may be available.

+3" wider per side

Uses a 19" long shock


Fully adjustable cator and camber"

They look exactly like the ones pappy has, im pretty sure they are standard travel for a 400ex, but on the walsh 250r/hybrid frames, they had the upper shock mounts higher than stock so that made them long travel.

[Pappy]

Correct, the Walsh 250R and 400ex arms are one in the same. The Walsh frames had adjustable upper shock mounts.

[exrider008]

any more progress?

[Pappy]

Frame is at the strippers, rear Hipers arrived, shocks shipped of to get a revalve.

[AtvMxRider]

Originally posted by Pappy
Frame is at the strippers, rear Hipers arrived, shocks shipped of to get a revalve.


How about some pics of the strippers???

[Pappy]

he is about 6'3 and 190 pounds, blonde hair and a mustache. If you want pics of him, you take'em:blah:

[AtvMxRider]

Originally posted by Pappy
he is about 6'3 and 190 pounds, blonde hair and a mustache. If you want pics of him, you take'em:blah:


OH damn hell no:eek2: Wrong strippers :ermm:

[440bigborekit]

any updates?

[Pappy]

Ordered new Walsh stickers:p Other then that, I sit and await parts just like every one else does:D

[quadfamily]

Originally posted by Pappy
Ordered new Walsh stickers:p

That should make it handle better!:)

[Pappy]

Originally posted by quadfamily
That should make it handle better!:)

Thats the biggest secret in the industry, it is not the part you run, it is the sticker that counts:D

[quadfamily]

I know, sssshhhh! You better delete this before everyone in the world finds out!

[Pappy]

Since we have a bit more time due to Cody's injury, he decided to rip down his CRF50 and make it match his 400.

[quadfamily]

Any more pics? Is the frame done yet?

[Pappy]

Not sure, I have to run to the strippers next week and drop off another batch and pick up the rest.

[MotoX3]

Originally posted by Pappy
Since we have a bit more time due to Cody's injury, he decided to rip down his CRF50 and make it match his 400. I'd be interested in seeing a few pics of that teardown and how it ends up if ya could:cool:

[Pappy]

It took him around 2 hours, its done and ready for the strippers:chinese:

[Pappy]

Well, he talked me into stripping it here so its now done.

[Mxjunkie]

gitter done cody..

Now there is a company called BBR.... :devil:

[Pappy]

naaa, nothing fancy on the pitbike, just needs reassembled and some new tires.

[BlasterEaten250]

I thought he wanted to do xc more than mx?

Nice build, I can't wait to see it finished, That seems like it's going to be sweet. What color ring hipers are you getting?

[Pappy]

he cant race the 400ex, but it will do much better on the MX track

He has his 300ex for XC

All black hipers

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by AtvMxRider
OH damn hell no:eek2: Wrong strippers :ermm:


LMGDFAO!!!!! :blah:

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by Pappy
Since we have a bit more time due to Cody's injury, he decided to rip down his CRF50 and make it match his 400.


what'd he do??? is he alright, or is it serious?

[Pappy]

Originally posted by krt400ex
what'd he do??? is he alright, or is it serious?

it seems in late august he sprained his left knee. he never complained and never asked for medical help. About 2 weeks ago it was really bothering him so we went for xrays. He had a bad sprain, and tore most of the ligaments in his knee. We have to now go to a specialist because they think a syst has formed on his knee.

[Pappy]

Molycoating is now complete.

Sprockets

[Pappy]

Swing arm pivot bolts and nut

[Pappy]

Spindles

[Pappy]

Calipers and mounts

[Pappy]

Throttle housing, spindle nuts

[quadfamily]

I'll say what everyone is thinking, "where the heck is the frame?"

[Pappy]

I use two different companies for my stripping. 1 is used for parts/frames that are powdercoated because they have a burn off oven.

The other uses a conventional media blasting set up. This is where I dropped off codys frame. It was scheduled to be done last week, but non-stop rain prevented much work being done. It is hard to get things rolling when its damp and wet, so the shops just shut down. I went by there friday and dropped off 7 more frames and I am scheduled to pick up all frames on tuesday. Codys is ready to go once I get it back so i have every expectation it will be finished and reassembly can begin around Turkey day.

I believe all parts that are to be coated are completed sans his new oil tank which will be done tomorrow. All I have to do is wait on the shocks and a few other parts to arrive and she will be done.

[Ruby Soho]

i cant wait to see this thing

[Pappy]

New CFM oil tank is now coated to blend in with the color scheme

[coolex]

man this things going to look so nice

[Pappy]

Cody ordered a new fork spring kit and a stiffer rear shock spring, and all pitbike parts are now coated

[Pappy]

New tires are on the way, so both projects should wrap up about the same time

[AtvMxRider]

Did you get a pipe for the pitbike?

[Pappy]

No pipe, its actually a budget build:p

[AtvMxRider]

Originally posted by Pappy
No pipe, its actually a budget build:p

I hear ya. You should atleast get a set of big bars for it. It will make it much easier for him to ride.

[Pappy]

Those I have, traded them for some pc work...lol

[jjthekj]

Is there already a thread that covers "moly coating"? Who does it, how it works, how it's applied, etc....

Doesn't seem to matter if it's aluminum or steel. Pretty cool.

[Chino886]

Hey Cody,

Your 450R pegs are on the way!

Good luck with the rest of your build!

Chino886

[Pappy]

Thanks Chino!




The header si now coated in Smooth Black High temp Powdercoat. It looks great, but I wont know how well it does until we run it:p

[Chino886]

Originally posted by Pappy
Thanks Chino!

Glad I could help you out!

[Moto49X]

Originally posted by Pappy
Those I have, traded them for some pc work...lol

Lol, thank you for that too! I appreciate it!

[Pappy]

its all good, I try and help out when and where I can:p

[Pappy]

Shocks arrived tonight, C&D Racing revalved and re-sprung the rear shock

[Pappy]

Fronts had been worked by C&D Racing, but we sent them back for an adjustment on the valving due to them being set up for XC

[Pappy]

Pro Armor chassis skid arrived, along with alot of teh other small parts we had been waiting on. I reckon after awhile, you learn to time things out, everything is now rolling in and the frame is in the oven:p

[Natertot426ex]

Looking good Pappy!!

I wish I lived closer to you so I could come over and learn what you are doing. This type of stuff you do is really interesting to me. But 2500 miles is a little far.

[Pappy]

LOL, no need to travel, I didnt:p


Frame is ready

[AtvMxRider]

Alright damn it enough talking and get that thing together I am dying to see what it is going to look like.

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by AtvMxRider
Alright damn it enough talking and get that thing together I am dying to see what it is going to look like.


yeah what he said!

[Pappy]

Sunday is the day Cody and Kevin should begin reassembly. Its deer season ya know:blah:

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by Pappy
Sunday is the day Cody and Kevin should begin reassembly. Its deer season ya know:blah:

That has all the making of one sweet 400.

Sunday? I didn't know the season ever went out in WV.:p You gonna be on the eastern shore at all during gun season? If so let me know so we can get you over for a day to try your luck on some Sika's.

[Pappy]

Nick, Ill be down there whenever you say to be there

[Pappy]

a few updates.


the pitbike is getting some upgrades

[Pappy]

the 400 and the pitbike will have matching graphics, both will feature our logo

[NPelletier]

keep em comin man:macho

[fastyz85]

hey pappy what happened to your other 400ex's that I remember seeing?

[Pappy]

Originally posted by fastyz85
hey pappy what happened to your other 400ex's that I remember seeing?

sold them off, bought 450's, sold them off:p



A set of Tinner's Scoops are on the way to top off this project.

You can also purchase these scoops through my shop if interested!

[AtvMxRider]

Alright it's sunday how about some unpdated pictures

[Pappy]

no wrenches turned today. cody spent all day working on a school project and report, the mechanic spent the day having thanksgivings day today due to a sick kid on thursday, and i just worked all day:p


no huge rush, cody can not ride until atleast dec. 4th, the fenders will atke atleast 10 days so we are just moving forward with regular work until more parts arrive etc. i wanna see it done as much as anyone:p

[redrider05]

any wrenches turned today pappy

[redrider05]

any wrenches turned today pappy

[Pappy]

Only on the pitbike as Cody could start reassembly while I did my own work. I reckon he has another hour and it should be ready to ride!

Fullbore say's the fenders will not work on a newer 400ex so i reckon the stock red fenders and a maier hood will have to work.

[Mxjunkie]

hehe I see Cody took the BBR advice :devil:

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Mxjunkie
hehe I see Cody took the BBR advice :devil:

wait till YOU get the bill :mad:

[Quadboy14]

Hey, I'm fairly new here, but I saw a thing where you nominated a person and "pimped they're quad", is this that quad? Are you going to be doing that again?

[440bigborekit]

^^^ na bro this is his son codys quad that thread your talking about is in here somewhere its a sick 250r def worth looking at.

[Quadboy14]

Oops, sorry about that. Thanks.

[Pappy]

Yes, I will be doing more things of that nature. I fully believe that you should give back to those that support you so more contests and give aways will be held in the future.

[Quadboy14]

When you say that ,are you talking about BK customers? I'll be honest I never bought a thing from them in my life. (I actually never knew about them till I joined the site)

[Quadboy14]

Oh by the way, thats an awsome 400ex!

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Quadboy14
When you say that ,are you talking about BK customers? I'll be honest I never bought a thing from them in my life. (I actually never knew about them till I joined the site)

Neither had the gentleman who won the contest. It was open to all atvrider.com members. Everything i do is geared towards the growth and support of this site and its members. If that happens to help me grow as a business then thats great, but in the end I do a good deed for a member and to me thats more important:)

[Pappy]

btw, here is his completed quad for the extreme quad makeover contest

[Quadboy14]

That is amazing!:eek2: Wow....you said you're planning to do this again, what do you have in mind? I think what you did was awsome, I'm 14 and my stock 95' blaster aint much to be proud of,but I realize that everyone should be able to enjoy the sport!
There are way to many guys out there that would be exellent riders, maybe even proff, but they can't afford a quad, or the money to fix what they have. I'll be lookin for another event like this soon!

[Pappy]

I was 14 once. My Yamaha 200 3 wheela was the chit:scary: I wanted a honda but got the yammy, so i race cut the fenders and had it all stickered up just like Mickey Dunlap and marty harts racing trikes:p

[Quadboy14]

Wow, Ithink I saw one of those things in a museum once.... LOL sounds fun. Sorry ,but I have no idea who those guys are.... While I'm talkin to you, what does it cost to get a blasters frame pc'd? Also, where you located at? I don't have any money for shipping a frame...:ermm:

[krt400ex]

any new pics pappy??? i can't wait to see this thing

[Pappy]

The pitbike lives again:p

[XCAdam89]

Originally posted by Pappy
The pitbike lives again:p

Pictures are worth a thousand words...:D

[Pappy]

the graphics kit, grips and air filter all have to come in before it can be completed. pics will be posted when they are both done:p


Tinner Scoops are here and ready for coating

[Pappy]

graphics are in

[Pappy]

pitbike graphics

[bigbadbubba]

now ware are the pics of the build :rolleyes: weve been waiting for weeks

[exrider008]

those graphics look great! where did u get the?

[Pappy]

Originally posted by bigbadbubba
now ware are the pics of the build :rolleyes: weve been waiting for weeks

you may be waiting a few more.

there is absolutley no reason to start reassembly until all the parts are in. I have customers work ahead of my own also.

[Pappy]

Ok, pitbike is done except for some grips and a gas tank vent. lube the chain and check the oil

[fandl450r]

Wowza Pappy that turned out awesome! Definitely digging the color scheme!

[Mxjunkie]

Hell yeah :macho

[NPelletier]

looks great man;) :blah:

[Moto49X]

nice handybars, where did you get them? lol

[Pappy]

Kevin and Shawn and Cody went to town on the 400 today

[Pappy]

These are the wrench guys around here:p I cant thank them enough

[Pappy]

Cody is becoming pretty good at turning wrenches

[Pappy]

Cody was checking out Shawns District trophy

[Pappy]

Shawn finished 2nd in the GNCC Stock class and 1st in his District class. Congrats !!!

[Pappy]

She was on the ground and running tonight

[Pappy]

It needs a bath, and a few other things finalized before he can test ride it

[Pappy]

A maier hood will fill in until I decided on what step i will take with fullbore

[Pappy]

The biggest snag of the night was the AC nerfs and teh Pro Armor chassis skid.

Some work with a hole saw got things back on track

[Pappy]

Yeah the colors are matching up so well, thats why i am having second thoughts on the fullbore for now. The graphics kit will be installed in a few days once she is buttoned up.

[Pappy]

Almost done, and cody goes to the specialist tomorrow to see about his knee. Hopefully he is fine, and gets the ok to ride again. he will not be a happy camper if they tell him he cant :p

[WhiteYFZ]

looks sick!!

[mx1791]

:eek2: :eek2: i thought my favorite quad was a 400ex with lakers, but thats just sick! full fenders look amazing, everything looks amazing

[Ralph]

I think white plastic would be awesome. The build is coming together great. Brain fart: i think any color plastic would look great. Have you considered yellow, blue, etc...??

I wish i still had the time to do this kinda stuff. Ive had no time at all to do anything with it over the last year, not even ride it:( . College is fun but i miss riding. Hopefully all goes well in the spring and i wont have to put any big bucks in it and ill beable to ride again.:)

[Tommy 17]

Originally posted by Ralph
I wish i still had the time to do this kinda stuff. Ive had no time at all to do anything with it over the last year, not even ride it:( . College is fun but i miss riding. Hopefully all goes well in the spring and i wont have to put any big bucks in it and ill beable to ride again.:)


it only gets worse haha... u just wait ralph the classes only get harder up at main!


pappy the quad looks awesome... def try the white plastic i think it'll make it unreal with the red on the graphics!

[exrider008]

wow!! that looks bad arse. i think the red plastic looks good with all the black.:eek2:

[Pappy]

deffinatley alot of black, but i look at it like this....


if a part is broken or damaged, i can replace the part and match the powder coat, i cant always do that with other colors. when he snaps the frame i can redo it and not have to redo everything else to match, or when the arms get rough they will be easy enough to recoat and it will all still flow.

[AtvMxRider]

Looks damn good Ken I like it. Quads don't always have to be flashy to look good.

[400exrider707]

All of that hardware and stock handlebars???:confused: Still a very nice and very clean looking machine. Cant wait to see it next to the pitbike!!

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by Pappy
The biggest snag of the night was the AC nerfs and teh Pro Armor chassis skid.

Some work with a hole saw got things back on track


u know, pro armor sells a skid that will work with nerfs, so u don't have to modify it. irt looks alot nicer

[krt400ex]

than if u hack at it on ur own

[Ruby Soho]

what engine modifications are you guys running?

[NPelletier]

wow man, looks nice, what kind of exhaust ru guys going to run on it?:D

[Pappy]

Originally posted by krt400ex
than if u hack at it on ur own

I would say it looks fine the way it is. No need to always depend on someone else when you have the things needed to get the job done yourself.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by 400exrider707
All of that hardware and stock handlebars???:confused:

We dont need $100 bars to go fast:p

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Ruby Soho
what engine modifications are you guys running?

Just a slip on, HMF

[fandl450r]

Looks awesome as usual! I didn't expect anything less, I'm definitely digging the all black on the calipers, spindles, etc. ;) I wouldn't change a damn thing!

[exrider008]

pappy i have some pro taper SE ATV bend i will sell u. pm me if u want them.

[Ruby Soho]

Originally posted by Pappy
Just a slip on, HMF

nice. im gonna get one of those for my 400ex.

what are the ups and downs of it?

[Pappy]

they arent cheap but what is,

the noise, as with any other pipe

[Ruby Soho]

yeah, thats what everyone says.

im lovin the stealth black on cody's 400!

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by Pappy
We dont need $100 bars to go fast:p

No not saying that you do, just never really seen anyone that found the stock bars to be a comfortable fit!? Plust I've never had a set of stock bars last more than one moto without getting bent down to the gas tank:mad:.

Anyways love the EX, those color combos are awesome

[Chino886]

Originally posted by Pappy
We dont need $100 bars to go fast:p

But it adds 4 HP, 5 HP if you get the CR double hi-bend! Read it in Dirt Wheels! :blah:

[Dave400ex]

Looks awesome. I am a huge fan of the black/red color schemes. I like the way the spindles, a-arms, and calipers look. I think I would do the calipers red on mine so they stick out, but it looks great.

[Pappy]

Plans are for sunday to button this quad up. Between work, the pc business and deer seaon i have been so short on free time i cant even begin to explain:p

[Pappy]

test ride

[Pappy]

gettin a feel for it

[Pappy]

shocks seemed to work very very well

[Pappy]

now its time to recheck everything

[Pappy]

We had to change the plug when we arrived at wvspeedfreaks son austins b-day party, we werent equiped to ride so thanks to jason a borrowed helmet allowed us a few laps on austins mini track

[exrider008]

that thing looks really good. how do u like those turf's?

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by exrider008
that thing looks really good. how do u like those turf's?


that quote in ur sig is hularious...but oh so true

[exrider008]

Originally posted by krt400ex
that quote in ur sig is hularious...but oh so true

haha, ya i thought so too.

[gbcap]

didn't you have to replace the drain plug too there pappy? haha.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by gbcap
didn't you have to replace the drain plug too there pappy? haha.

thanks greg, next time remind me BEFORE it falls out:p


some Tinner scoops:macho

[Mxjunkie]

Now those are some nice tins :p

[NPelletier]

those looks sick man:D

[Pappy]

one step closer

[white02400]

Sticker kits now, huh??? Man, it has been a long time since I've been around here!! :D

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by Pappy
one step closer


looks nice, but man...u gotta get a hood for that thing

[Pappy]

hood is on order

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by Pappy
hood is on order


nice....what r u gettin?

[WhiteYFZ]

is his name on the graphic kit of is it a sticker.. and if its a sticker do you mind me asking where you got it?

[Pappy]

its a sticker(2) that was included in the pitbike graphics

[Pappy]

On the ground and tearin it up!

[Pappy]

everything seems to be working extremely well as expected

[Ralph]

oh man that thing looks great!

[Ralph]

oh man that thing looks great!

[Dave400ex]

I like that hood. I wish they made it for a 450!

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by Dave400ex
I like that hood. I wish they made it for a 450!


ya it is nice...what kind is it?

[Pappy]

Maier

[priebo15]

sorry if i missed it, but are those walsh's +3's?

quad looks amazing. good work! love the stealth black

[Pappy]

+2

[krt400ex]

+2 with 3:2 offset rims? cuz it looks alot wider than +2

[Pappy]

Its 48 inches wide(+2 arms 4-1 rims) I believe I know what I built:p If I remeber correctly the scribe from Walsh on the arms was +2

[Pappy]

It may appear wider because the suspension is set up for mx and has a 7 inch ride height. Works very well I may add

[Pappy]

He sure likes it, as do I.

[400ex_rider13]

thats the one of the best 400ex's ive ever seen

[400ex_rider13]

whats the website for walsh?

[WhiteYFZ]

walshrc.com

[400EXrider#91]

the bike looks really good man...got the old bike back. i had a skid loader here a week or so ago, and plan on getting it back again here in the next weekend or so. if you get up this way let me know