Pappy, MOFO...gun porn

[batgeek]

SIG P229DAK .40S&W and SIG P229R .357SIG
http://www.atvnc.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10160/babies2.jpg

SIG P239 .357SIG
http://www.atvnc.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10160/239.jpg

SIG P228 9mm
http://www.atvnc.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10160/MVC-013F.JPG

SIG GSR Revolution 1911 .45ACP
http://www.atvnc.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10160/Revo.jpg

SIG Mosquito .22LR /w SIG red dot sight
http://www.atvnc.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10160/Skeeter_target.jpg

HK P2000SK .40S&W
http://www.atvnc.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10160/P2000SK_2.JPG

JLD PTR-91 .308WIN (HK91 clone)
http://www.atvnc.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10160/PTR-91.jpg

my daily carry stuff P239 and Benchmade 635 and 942
http://www.atvnc.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10160/daily_carry.jpg

these are new additions to my collection. :)

my new EDC piece is that P2000SK. 2 extra rounds(over the P239) and i can use P2000 magazines in it also, so thats 9+1 in mag in pistol and a back up 12rnd in the belt. :)

EAT THIS SHEEPLE!!!

[LTZ400rider]

i like the sig u have, in .357 sig
that hk i love too

[Pappy]

blah blah blah....Looks like the gangsta is arming himself

:devil: :blah:

We all need to have a shoot sometime:macho :cool: I havent bought anything new in awhile, waiting on some more cha-ching to buy a new toy that goes rattle rattle tat tat:cool:

[Scott-300ex]

Yeh man, we all need to shoot sometime.

Most of you know about the AR-15 I bought recently, I shot the ground right in front of me, just to see the impact it would have, a 5.56mm round blew a whole 6 inches wide and 3 inches deep at least! I was like:eek: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: after it was raining dirt on me. Those things are powerfull and shoot Far!

Your HK looks like it has some long rounds by the looks of the mag

Have fun with them.

[MOFO]

Very nice collection! My next pistol will be a HK or Sig... this thread sure bumped up the priority of adding to my collection!

[TCracin440ex]

u got enough weapons on your person daily dont you...2 knives and a gun...somebody might be scared of their own shaddow....or done pissed another person off in the past...j/k man why so many daily carry alongs?

[MOFO]

Originally posted by TCracin440ex
u got enough weapons on your person daily dont you...2 knives and a gun...somebody might be scared of their own shaddow....or done pissed another person off in the past...j/k man why so many daily carry alongs?


My question to you would be... why not? :devil:

[Mean250r]

Originally posted by TCracin440ex
u got enough weapons on your person daily dont you...2 knives and a gun...somebody might be scared of their own shaddow....or done pissed another person off in the past...j/k man why so many daily carry alongs?

yeah man i agree. wtf r u carying all that **** around for

[Pappy]

He stated his carry weapon was 1 side-arm and a knife.


Beerock...RIF

[Rastus]

I'm jealous. :) I want a pistol really bad, but I don't know the best one to choose for a quality/price ratio. Also, I'm almost 19 and can't buy one until 21(dumb laws). But, there are always ways of getting around obstacles.
Can anyone give me some suggestions for a good pistol that won't cost an arm and a leg?

[FasstMidnightZ]

How much did you pay for the 228??
Very nice man. ;)

[LTZ400rider]

Originally posted by Rastus
I'm jealous. :) I want a pistol really bad, but I don't know the best one to choose for a quality/price ratio. Also, I'm almost 19 and can't buy one until 21(dumb laws). But, there are always ways of getting around obstacles.
Can anyone give me some suggestions for a good pistol that won't cost an arm and a leg?

a used smith and wesson

most people say go to the range and rent guns and see what fits you best

[WoofersInc]

Originally posted by Rastus
I'm jealous. :) Also, I'm almost 19 and can't buy one until 21(dumb laws). But, there are always ways of getting around obstacles.


This is the type of statements that cause problems for legitimate gun owners. Going around the current laws only gives more fuel to the anti-gun crowd. Not to mention that you will lose the right to own a firearm forever if you are caught with an illegal gun. Remember boys and girls that there is a serious chance that the Democrats could regain control in this country and the moment they do don't believe that they won't try to come take our guns again. Anyone remember the Clinton Gun Ban??? It's unfortunate but you have to be extremly careful of what you say regarding guns and gun ownership.

As for the idiot that shot the ground in front of himself "just to see what would happen" Are you completely brain dead or is that you're normal state of stupidity????????

[Rastus]

I understand your concern, and I agree with you.
But, it is completely idiotic that I can take a bullet for my country, but I can't own a handgun.

[batgeek]

why so many daily carry alongs?

i refuse to be a victim.

Originally posted by batgeek
i refuse to be a victim.

I feel the same way. Except I carry a grenade on me at all times. I should go get pictures of my dad and brother's collection.

[LTZ400rider]

most people who are anti gun think people who carry must flash it around and shoot stuff for fun and be irresponsible or something. most people who carry dont even let people know they are carrying. its a good idea not to let people know because if they ever wanna get you they know u have a gun and that can be used against you.

its always better to have a gun and not need it then not have a gun and need it.

[Scott-300ex]

Yeh, its nice to have it in case you need it, but I don't see me needing to carry around a pistol to ever need it. I carry a Kershaw knife on my at all times, as well as a zippo and stuff and my friends always ask me how many people I've stabbed. Uh, I carry it around to cut wire and stuff, cuz I use it, I'm only ganna use it to kill someone if they are trying to kill me or somewhere where I need it.


And I shot the ground to see the impact, cuz I'm trying to LEARN everything I can. Now I can imagine wut it can do to objects, or living creatures. So I guess that is my normal level of stupidity:rolleyes:

And we've all shot pistols under the age of 21. So don't go to hard on him, but I'm not going to own one untill I'm legal, I'm personally not into glocks or revolvers though, I like my AR.

[csimp3]

sweet i just ordered a taurus 24/7 pro in a .40 cal today, anyone else have one of these?

[Chino]

BATGEEK, How the hall you been, ain't saw ya around in a long time bro. Take care, hope all is well man!

[troyleepred719]

the newest addition to my self defense family..get pics up tommorow of the others......

[WoofersInc]

Originally posted by Scott-300ex

And I shot the ground to see the impact, cuz I'm trying to LEARN everything I can. Now I can imagine wut it can do to objects, or living creatures. So I guess that is my normal level of stupidity:rolleyes:



There are better ways to LEARN things than to risk your life or the life of someone standing near-by. Ever heard of a book???? How about going to a gun safety class because you definitely need one. While you are there tell the instructor how you learn and see how long you stay in the class. Guns are tools. They are not the toy you seem to think they are. They demand respect. Something you obviously don't know anything about.
You are the type of gun owner that give legitimate gun owners a bad name in the media.

Anyone want to take bets on how long before this kid shoots himself in the foot or acidentally shoots someone or something else.

[batgeek]

Originally posted by Chino
BATGEEK, How the hall you been, ain't saw ya around in a long time bro. Take care, hope all is well man!

wassup!!! :) everything going fine on my side. hope the same for you.

scott-300ex,

it's a damned firearm man!! if you don't know what a firearm does when you point it and shoot it, you DO NOT need to be aquiring firearms in the first place.

irresponsible owners, like you, are exactly why we seem to be losing our gun rights every year.

[csimp3]

Originally posted by batgeek
irresponsible owners, like you, are exactly why we seem to be losing our gun rights every year.

word

http://www.hunt101.com/img/340724.jpg


http://www.hunt101.com/img/429759.jpg

[troyleepred719]

someones paranoid :) lol, jp naty guns.....i got a 3030 rifle with high velocity rifled barrel, nikon 400yd scope... winchester 1200 12 ga (pictured), now has tac stock on it, blacked out....ruger 9mm... two switchblades, and a butterfly...

[redroost85]

Whahooo, stumbling across the gun porn has got me sweaty!!:D

A most impressive collection my friend.:devious:

Since we are on the fabulous topic of firearms...not to hi-jack the thread, but hopefully the more experienced gunners will see this and weigh in.....

I am looking for a new daily carry and have come across KAHR...anybody have any experience, stories, etc....the fella at the local store swears by them and says these are the way to go...probably a 9mm for me as opposed to the .40, .45, etc...

Any info would be appreciated.:)

[Pappy]

The CW40 is pretty close to what i carry in a Glock. Ive always bought higher end firearms and have no hands on expierence with the KAHR brand.

My next carry weapon will be a Kimber in 40

[Scott-300ex]

Originally posted by WoofersInc
There are better ways to LEARN things than to risk your life or the life of someone standing near-by. Ever heard of a book???? How about going to a gun safety class because you definitely need one. While you are there tell the instructor how you learn and see how long you stay in the class. Guns are tools. They are not the toy you seem to think they are. They demand respect. Something you obviously don't know anything about.
You are the type of gun owner that give legitimate gun owners a bad name in the media.

Anyone want to take bets on how long before this kid shoots himself in the foot or acidentally shoots someone or something else.

Uh, yeh, its called no one else within even sight around me, and I pointed and shot away from my foot:huh. Like 5 feet in front of me.

Yeh, I would like to see a book give me a visual impression in real life. I took a gun saftey course and got a 100% on the test and have much experience with firearms. Don't even start. I could show you how the gun works inside and out. Don't flame when you don't know wut the person your flamin knows.:rolleyes:

Thats all I wanna say for now.

[WoofersInc]

Look at the other posts. I'm not the only one who thinks you're an idiot. No respectable firearms person would shoot the ground in front of them "Just to see what happens."
Being able to take a gun apart also does not make you a responsible gun owner.
I can tell you are an idiot by you're other posts where you talk about killing stuff. There is a big difference between hunting as a legitimate sport and killing things just to kill them as you have suggested you are going to do. An AR 15 is not an appropriate squirrel gun as anyone with half a brain will tell you.

I will flame anyone like you who spouts off their mouth and makes all gun owners look bad and potientally cost me the ability to own firearms.
You need to shut up about firearms until you can talk like a responsible person.

Also why not try typing actual words. People might take you more seriously instead of thinking you couldn't pass 3rd grade english.

Grow UP already......:mad:

[LTZ400rider]

Originally posted by WoofersInc
L An AR 15 is not an appropriate squirrel gun as anyone with half a brain will tell you.



the hell it aint! .223 is a fine caliber for squirrel, and definetly better for coyotes and groundhogs, not full auto of course

[WoofersInc]

A regular 22 is much better. The .223 will do to much damage to the squirrel. I have only hunted squirrel as food. Shooting them with a centerfire is overkill. Just because you CAN shoot them with it does not mean it is appropriate. If that is your only gun maybe but if you have more than one firearm there are better choices out there.

[batgeek]

Originally posted by redroost85
Whahooo, stumbling across the gun porn has got me sweaty!!:D

A most impressive collection my friend.:devious:

Since we are on the fabulous topic of firearms...not to hi-jack the thread, but hopefully the more experienced gunners will see this and weigh in.....

I am looking for a new daily carry and have come across KAHR...anybody have any experience, stories, etc....the fella at the local store swears by them and says these are the way to go...probably a 9mm for me as opposed to the .40, .45, etc...

Any info would be appreciated.:)

look into the new Kahr PM9!!

i have a few friends that own them and rave about the firearm.

Originally posted by redroost85
I am looking for a new daily carry and have come across KAHR...anybody have any experience, stories, etc....the fella at the local store swears by them and says these are the way to go...probably a 9mm for me as opposed to the .40, .45, etc...

Any info would be appreciated.:) [/B]

I got a Kahr P9....

Thin, so its not bulky.

Carries 7+ 1, (or is it 8+1?....)

Points naturally, mild recoil despite very light weight...

I forget I'm carrying it.

Its only draw back? Getting shot with it still in your concealment holster, cuz you forgot you had it when you ran across a bad guy....


:devil: ;) :huh


LOL


I love my Kahr P9

[extremeblastr]

woofers inc. you are a straight up flamer if you can't understand what he is trying to say (and i know you do) then tell him that you would like him to reword it for you in attempt to understand him don't ge a mofo and give him a hard time because he can't articulate words as well as you do...oh and as far as real english words i'll guarantee you i'm at least 5 or 6 years younger then you but yet i'm still willing to see whos got the better vocabulary...ever herd of a bojangle and yes its a real word...don't believe me...LOOK IT UP

[WoofersInc]

Originally posted by extremeblastr
woofers inc. you are a straight up flamer if you can't understand what he is trying to say (and i know you do) then tell him that you would like him to reword it for you in attempt to understand him don't ge a mofo and give him a hard time because he can't articulate words as well as you do...oh and as far as real english words i'll guarantee you i'm at least 5 or 6 years younger then you but yet i'm still willing to see whos got the better vocabulary...ever herd of a bojangle and yes its a real word...don't believe me...LOOK IT UP

It has absolutely nothing to do with articulating words. I am on him because by his words and actions he is making responsible gun owners look bad. And by his actions he is a dangerous gun owner. It only takes one incident in the press for the anti-gun people to push for further gun control.
As I stated before I will flame anyone who by their actions or words make responsible gun owners look bad and jeopardize my right to own a gun.
And before you start on me about vocabulary better go back and read your own post. Spell check works wonders.Oh and as for bojangle. Maybe in your neck of the woods it's a real word but NOT in the dictionary.
So nice try........

[LTZ400rider]

Originally posted by WoofersInc
A regular 22 is much better. The .223 will do to much damage to the squirrel. I have only hunted squirrel as food. Shooting them with a centerfire is overkill. Just because you CAN shoot them with it does not mean it is appropriate. If that is your only gun maybe but if you have more than one firearm there are better choices out there.

id rather use a .223 then a 12 gauge with 6shot

[Rastus]

Just for regular critters I like my 22Mag., it's got alittle more smoke than a regular 22LR.
For squirrels, it's alittle over-kill, but it still works. And you might as well forget about the 12Ga., there won't be anything left to eat if it's pretty close range. :D

In my first post I hope I didn't come off the wrong way. I was implying that my parents buy the handgun and fill out the forms that the FFL needs. I was not implying that I would get a handgun illegally. I have shot a few handguns before, along with an assortment of rifles, and have been through many shooting safety classes as I was growing up.

Also, I can see where woofers is coming from. It only takes a very small number of incidences to get something banned these days, and as far as gun control goes, bans just suck for gun owners. Even though noone was hurt and you won't do it again, it still wasn't the best decision. Everybody just needs to relax.

[YFZRB]

Has Pappy or anyone else got any more info about the possible turkey shoots at Breezewood over the winter?

[Pappy]

I havent asked but I am sure the info is on thier home page. I plan on going to a few, I enjoyed them as a kid.


Kevin will be not allowed to go, as he looses his mind when ever he see's the Amish guys:chinese: I thought I was going to have to shoot my way out of a resturant one night because he was laughing so hard at them that they started to get a bit grumpy:devil:

[Scott-300ex]

Ha, and I was told not to mess with amish people cuz they are built and will mess you up.

Oh wait isn't he saying killing people? Lets all hollar about that.:rolleyes: (No flame Pappy, just about the previous posts though)

If I'm irresponsible, why do I always make sure of my backdrop, have the saftey on, not even have my finger on the trigger unless I'm pulling it(Military guy's know wut I'm talkin about) don't shoot 30 degrees in peoples direction. Did you know it was 30?

I shot the ground to see the impact as in wut it would do to a coyote, wut it does to people when the military dings them.

As for close range, thats why I aimed away from me and not under me, and watch the Military Channel and you will see them fire 3 foot away from the barrel. In like trainin to raid a building in Iraq. And it is 0-300 yard zero, that means I can shoot 1/2 a yard which is 1.5'.

And I don't kill things just to kill them. Coyotes yes, but thats why everyone kills them, unless you go through the pain of defurring them for $3 for a fur, around here. Squirrels I eat. Wut I shoot I eat. I don't go out and shoot robins for fun like others around here do. And if I just wanted to kill, I would shoot deer, and anything living coming into my path.

Thats enough for now.

[extremeblastr]

okay what your saying is all fine and dandy woofers but would you rather somebody make a bad mistake by underestimating there firearm because all they did was read about or have them do a little invistegating in a controled situation so nothing happend

[atvRiDa400ex]

i know fer sure i dont want to be the guy to rob the man that started this forum!

[Rastus]

This isn't exactly gun porn, but Ammo is expensive for some sizes of guns! You can plink and mess around all day with a 22LR for what it costs for one single box of most other sizes.

The reason I say this is because I'm in the market for an AK and have been looking around on some forums. It's not uncommon for some individuals to have 3-4K rounds of ammo in one particular size, just to have for when SHTF. :eek2:

[WoofersInc]

Originally posted by extremeblastr
okay what your saying is all fine and dandy woofers but would you rather somebody make a bad mistake by underestimating there firearm because all they did was read about or have them do a little invistegating in a controled situation so nothing happend

There is more than enough documentation on any factory loaded ammo and its capabilities out there. The kid lives in St. Louis. he is not going to be carrying the AR on a regular basis where he has to worry about underestimating it's abilities. The gun and the cartridge have been around much longer than both of you have. There is plenty of info on it and what it can do. And I stand by my position that what he did was an irresponsible act. By no means was that a controlled situation. There isn't a gun safety course or firearm handling course that would accept that type of behavior.
There are better ways of finding out what your firearm is capable of.

[Stevie-D]

i too am curious as to what kind of damage a new gun will cause. would never think of shooting the ground in front of me. tell me, mr. gun expert....what happens when a bullet hits something? it explodes/mushrooms, etc....where are these pieces going? that's all i am gonna say on that one.

i almost lost an eye when i was younger from a similar set of circumstances. few of us had the bb guns out, and the one kid shot at the ground. ricocheted and hit my forehead about a quarter inch above my eye socket. had to have it cut out...

now think what would have happened if that was a high powered bullet. if not dead, i'd be blind.

[WoofersInc]

Thank You.
Finally someone is getting what I am talking about.

Originally posted by WoofersInc
A regular 22 is much better. The .223 will do to much damage to the squirrel. I have only hunted squirrel as food. Shooting them with a centerfire is overkill. Just because you CAN shoot them with it does not mean it is appropriate. If that is your only gun maybe but if you have more than one firearm there are better choices out there.

A couple camping trips ago, one guy took a squirrel with a AR 15 in .223 / 5.56.

The squirrel was quite in tact and made a fine meal (if ya like eating squirrel.)

Reality is .223 / 5.56 is moving at such high velocity, it doesn't have time to fragment in a squirrel. If the squirrel does "explode" it will prolly be due to internal pressures of the bullet entering the animal, rather than fragmentation. But even this is random, not a predictable occurrence.

People who say "A 9mm will do this" or " .223 will do that" don't understand the sheer randomness of damage bullets will inflict.

Pres Reagan was almost killed with .22 rimfire round. In Iraq and Afghanistan, it is commonly reported it takes often as many as 6 direct hits with 5.56 to stop the advance of the Tangoes.

When a bullet enters a body, all bets are off. Relative density of tissue, fragmentation, yaw, and development of permanent wound cavity all vary widely .

A BB can kill, and a 45ACP can hardly wound, under the right circumstances.

Chances are better the 45ACP will do the intended job, but any assumption it will ALWAYS do the intended job is erroneous.

Most people in the know will tell you it is shot placement NOT caliber that determines damage inflicted / permanent wound cavity.

Hope this is informative.

[Quadfather]

Kimber and Glock

Nice collections some of you guys have!

I just picked this up on Sat. Springfield 1911-A1 .45 Cal. Champion model

[batgeek]

ohhhh! that is just screaming for a custom job! :D

[Scott-300ex]

Perhaps I was shootin FMJ rounds, those don't fragment, they hold thier shape. I've seen them go threw a piece of 1/4 steel and hold thier shape. And if you hit dirt they won't (really) fragment, its soft, it was wet that day, it went straight into the ground. And a bb will deflect, it doesn't have power to go straight into the ground, and I gaurentee that was rock solid dry dirt.

You can say all you want but I don't care.

And grandman that is true, it is shot placement, not caliber, although caliber is an advantage.

And I agree that a 5.56 round will not impode on a squirrel, for 3550fps it hitting a soft animal for 3'' won't affect it. It could throw the bullet off course but it will still hold its shape.

Originally posted by Scott-300ex
Perhaps I was shootin FMJ rounds, those don't fragment, they hold thier shape.

I would commend you and all readers to http://www.theboxotruth.com/

I beleive it has some of the best penetration / fragmentation studies in the "real world."

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Scott-300ex


And I agree that a 5.56 round will not impode on a squirrel, for 3550fps it hitting a soft animal for 3'' won't affect it. It could throw the bullet off course but it will still hold its shape.

FMJ or some other form of core loct manufacture yes....but....


I handload for several shooters that go west for prarie dogs and using Nosler BT(45 grain)we have loads that literal implode these small varmints. On ground hogs back east, they penetrate the skin and usually disinigrate when the rib cage is hit. Ive used these on fox also with almost ZERO pelt damage and no pass through at ranges to 600 yards. (I did shoot one fox in the teeth at 30 yards just because I wanted to see his head come apart, but all this set up did was blow his teeth out and the back of his mouth was a mess. It did not come out of his head.

I have seen the "myth" of the FMJ round in person. And people will swear the person was shot in the left chest and the tumbling caused it to exit his right *** cheek. It did follow that wound channel, but it was due to the high velocity of the 55 grain fmj round contatcing soft tissue. They go beserk sometimes and I like 'em:p My dad and I argued non stop over this as he had his share of "tumbling" bullets in Vietnam, but science backed me up. In the end, the enemy was dead so we both won:devil: