View Full Version : what's the best clutch???
250X_project
10-25-2006, 02:29 PM
What's the best performing and lasting clutch for a 250X/300EX? I've heard good things about Barnette's dirt digger, my friend has a 440EX with a dirt digger-seems to hold up well.
250X_project
10-25-2006, 07:51 PM
Your saying a Honda clutch is beter than any aftermarket?? Sorry, but I find that very hard to bieleve.
If you're only replacing the fibers and steels, an OEM clutch is the best.
On my 440 I had the stock clutch components and it lasted an entire year (plus the three previous before I owned the quad), where as I only got 12 hours out of an aftermarket.
250X_project
10-25-2006, 08:36 PM
What brand aftermarket though?
stalefish_132
10-25-2006, 09:41 PM
my full Hinson clutch has held up with the abuse of my 440 since late 99/00 and the fibres still look new, Hinson is the way to go IMO.
bansheexcracer2
10-25-2006, 09:53 PM
HINSON all the way. There stuff is a little expensive but you get what you pay for. Honda does make some of the best fibers though.
250X_project
10-25-2006, 09:59 PM
Yeah I have heard good things about hinson too. what site should I buy from?
bansheexcracer2
10-25-2006, 10:01 PM
You can get them from hinson or motosport.
hotrodder_250ex
10-28-2006, 06:20 PM
barrnet digt digger clutches are good other wise id chose hinson but EBC makes a cheap one but i dont no much about them!
250X_project
10-28-2006, 07:10 PM
I like Barnett, but have been tempted by the price of the EBC'c ...I can't find a hinson for my wheeler though
bansheexcracer2
10-29-2006, 07:11 AM
I didnt even think of that. You would have to call hinson direct and see if they ever made one for a 200x. I know alot of 300ex parts will fit the 200x but you would have to ask them if the basket would.
250X_project
10-29-2006, 03:28 PM
250X, and yes the clutches are the same as a 300EX, but haven't found one yet.
Pappy
10-29-2006, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by ZSK
OEM
My thoughts exactly!
Originally posted by 250X_project
Your saying a Honda clutch is beter than any aftermarket?? Sorry, but I find that very hard to bieleve.
Just because something is aftermarket doesn't automatically make it better:)
250X_project
10-29-2006, 07:20 PM
Don't take me the wrong way. It's just that Hinson, and Barnett and co.s like that are all about clutches and the new technology to build clutches, so I would think they would know how to build a good clutch that will stand up to the abuse and the power of a performance engine.
GPracer2500
10-29-2006, 07:30 PM
I like OEM for clutches. The last Barnett clutch I used wasn't very good. It was grabby and reluctent to fully disengage. It was fine in the very beginning but soon developed issues.
250X_project
10-29-2006, 08:04 PM
huh well good to know. Now you bring up another question, when some people say disengage they mean when you pull in the lever others mean when you let it out, which is the correct usage?
GPracer2500
10-29-2006, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by 250X_project
huh well good to know. Now you bring up another question, when some people say disengage they mean when you pull in the lever others mean when you let it out, which is the correct usage?
When you pull on the lever you are disengaging the clutch.
When you release the clutch lever you are engaging the clutch.
wilkin250r
10-30-2006, 12:14 AM
Hinson makes a much better BASKET than stock, but as for the actual fibers, OEM is generally regarded as the best.
250X_project
10-30-2006, 05:39 AM
OK thank you. Now yet another stupid question....what advantages does a good basket give you? Just better holeshot?
Bill Fuller
10-30-2006, 07:05 AM
Hinson baskets are a very good product.The stronger basket doesn't groove like a OEM causing the plates to stick.In my opinion OEM plates and fibers are the best and usually the cheapest.
NacsMXer
10-30-2006, 10:13 AM
Hinson clutch components (basket, pressure plate, inner hub), HD springs,
and OEM fibers/steels = bulletproof clutch ;)
250exkid
10-30-2006, 02:35 PM
im with all the OEM guys, iv liked them they havent given me troubles, but i no one of my friends there 4x4 i think its a 2000 or a 2001 and he blew out 1st gear and another and kept replacing and he replaced the guts of the clutch and it was emackulant!!!
wilkin250r
10-30-2006, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by 250X_project
OK thank you. Now yet another stupid question....what advantages does a good basket give you? Just better holeshot?
It lasts longer. The basket holds all the plates. As you use the clutch thousands of times, the movements back and forth will wear grooves into the basket, and it doesn't fully disengage. The quad will "creep" foward even when the clutch is pulled all the way in.
The Hinson basket is made of a harder material, so you don't get those grooves. It's not a performance issue so much as a longevity issue.
250X_project
10-30-2006, 08:05 PM
Oh. okay. I wasn't thinking of the wear factor. my OEM basket doesn't have any real wear to it, nor the inner hub.
I dont like oem. I took out my stock clutch in perfect condition and changed it. Most aftermarket kits give the quads a lightend fly wheel affect.
250r4life
11-01-2006, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by wilkin250r
Hinson makes a much better BASKET than stock, but as for the actual fibers, OEM is generally regarded as the best.
i was thinking along those lines...
wilkin250r
11-01-2006, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by slow
Most aftermarket kits give the quads a lightend fly wheel affect.
I disagree. Most kits come with steel plates, which are HEAVIER than the stock aluminum ones. This will act like a heavier flywheel, increasing the time it takes for the engine to rev up.
Originally posted by wilkin250r
I disagree. Most kits come with steel plates, which are HEAVIER than the stock aluminum ones. This will act like a heavier flywheel, increasing the time it takes for the engine to rev up.
Well the adds for ebc and tusk and others call it a lightend fly wheel affect. I dont know but when i had the shop put a aftermarket clutch in my quad and i took it down the road it felt more torqy. Like when i would shift and let the clutch out it would kind of jerk harder. I thought they rejetted it and they said no and that some aftermarket clutch kits act like that.
wilkin250r
11-02-2006, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by slow
Well the adds for ebc and tusk and others call it a lightend fly wheel affect. I dont know but when i had the shop put a aftermarket clutch in my quad and i took it down the road it felt more torqy. Like when i would shift and let the clutch out it would kind of jerk harder. I thought they rejetted it and they said no and that some aftermarket clutch kits act like that.
And that's exactly what a heavier flywheel would do, it feels like more torque. It takes more time to spin up, but once it IS up to speed, it adds a little extra punch when you try to slow it down (like shifting, you're going from high revs to lower revs).
It's all about rotational inertia.
Originally posted by wilkin250r
I disagree. Most kits come with steel plates, which are HEAVIER than the stock aluminum ones. This will act like a heavier flywheel, increasing the time it takes for the engine to rev up.
Wouldn't aluminum clutch plates warp quite quickly from the friction? Not to mention wear thin fairly rapidly also? I've always thought clutch plates (OEM or aftermarket) were steel, hence replacing the fibers and steels.:confused:
wilkin250r
11-02-2006, 11:13 PM
Your piston is aluminum, and it's in constant motion against the cylinder walls. It gets easily a hundred times the friction.
Originally posted by slow
Well the adds for ebc and tusk and others call it a lightend fly wheel affect. I dont know but when i had the shop put a aftermarket clutch in my quad and i took it down the road it felt more torqy. Like when i would shift and let the clutch out it would kind of jerk harder. I thought they rejetted it and they said no and that some aftermarket clutch kits act like that.
you say you know everything but you cant put in your own clutch or rejet?? :confused:
i have EBC clutch and its pretty good so far
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