Recall for lower throttle arm on 06's

[313racing]

If the mod could sticky this it would be much appreciated!

Just a heads up you have three years to go to your dealer and have them replace your lower throttle arm. I just got the letter in the mail a week ago. Take your 2006 honda 450r to your local dealer and have them replace your lower throttle arm for no costs. I suggest you do this just as a precaution to preventing this item from breaking.

Thank You,
MDRracing
Cody

[QuadJunkies]

Ill post sticky for the time being since its a recall :)


I got my notice this week. Goes in the shop after this next wk end .

whats the lower throttle arm do?

[450rJam]

my letter says the original one can "develope excessive play"
that can lead to lack of throttle response.

[313racing]

Yeah that what my letter said also.
I just figure for people that didn't know, can read this now and contact there local dealer. My bike is going in about 3 weeks.


Thanks,
MDRracing
Cody

[atvwdsrcer]

? Is this part of the carb or is it in the thumb throttle?

[313racing]

Not sure but I'm guessing it's part of the throttle case (basically that part you put your thumb on is being replaced). Not sure though it only makes sense though.

Thank You,
MDRracing
Cody

i take mine in on thursday and they told me i could have it back in about 45 minutes(mechanic will need a smoke break)

[313racing]

lmao yeah i hear that, it shouldn't take that long. They told me it will take a hour (two smoke breaks).
But it's free so it ain't hurting me.

Thank You,
MDRracing
Cody

[450rJam]

I havnt called yet but the letter said to plan on leaving it for a day...............
Im guessing that must be "worst case".

I have 3 years to get it fixed lol.

[Kev450R]

I called my local dealer to schedule an appointment to get mine fixed, they told me their out of the "Recall kits". The service guy told me that they hadn't seen any 450's come-in which had broken. I reminded him that Honda was spending a LOT of money to see that this gets repaired. The service guy agreed and said he'd call me in a couple of weeks when they get more "kits" in-stock. Needless to say I'll be calling another dealership. This was in Orange County, So.Cal.

--Kevin

dropped mine off on thursday as soon as the shop opened. went to walmart and sears, came back and it was waiting for me.

mine wasn't broke yet, but i don't want it breaking out on a trail, miles from no where

[313racing]

Yeah exactly, better safe then sorry. But I never have heard of somebody breaking their lower throttle arm. But honda really wants to take care of us, so I'm all in on that.

Thank You,
MDRracing
Cody

[MX MaNiAc 06]

When i saw the letter i was praying that it was about the starter...

[313racing]

I never had any problems with my starter. What happens with yours? I have heard of people having some bad ones before.

Thank You,
MDRracing
Cody

[MX MaNiAc 06]

Never had a real problem its just a pain to start sometimes. I ran the battery dead before i even rode the damn thing. I start it every day even if im not gonna ride it because if i dont start it for a week or 2 its a btch to get started!

[krt400ex]

and the starers on the ones by me have been going leeft and right...they rn't covered under warrenty and they cost $300 to fix...no joke. my friend owns a shop and he has fixed alot of them in the past couple od months

[lumi]

$300!!!


i fixed a couple of my freinds for 50$ just for the starter clutch which usually takes the beating. but the price for replacing everything can go to about 120$


i think u meant a whole new starter for 300$.



-lumi

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by lumi
$300!!!


i fixed a couple of my freinds for 50$ just for the starter clutch which usually takes the beating. but the price for replacing everything can go to about 120$


i think u meant a whole new starter for 300$.



-lumi


yes...the whole starter has been going bad left and right....he has had to replace quite a few of them

that is odd, my starter parts list came to around $350 was out of warrenty when it was fixed...the cost to me was $0000000000000000.00

[lumi]

the sprag and outter clutch holder and maybe the gear should be 150$ at the most.? thats the only thingd i replaced. this is for a do it yourself jobb :D

krt400ex i understand now.

and speedy quad that sounds like a whole starter assembly. not really what need to be replaced when the starter is blown. but like u said $0000000.00 for you




-lumi

the sprag, a couple of gears, a few other things...still cost me nothing...now i hit the throttle 5 times before i pull the choke...turn the key on, pull the choke and push the magic button...she fires right up...i have only had to push the button 2 times max so far....never pushing the throttle while pushing the button...

[Idaho450R]

Does it make a difference if i have the power up kit on mine? It is a hard starter also. Now its getting cold here in Idaho, I have to jump start it off my truck to turn it over long enough to fire...turns over fine, just takes a long time to fire.

[quad2xtreme]

In order to start in cold weather, try this...


1. Take your seat off

2. Put the original lid on if you don't run it.

3. Hit the throttle 4-5 times before hitting the starter

4. Pull the choke

5. Cover the factory hole in the air lid with your hand

6. Hit the starter

7. Take your hand off the air lid hole after it fires up

8. Take the lid off if you don't normally run it.

The only problem with starting the 450r in cold weather is the choke really doesn't do enough.

Hope this helps.

[big700r]

about these recalls is it on the canadian 450r 2 or just the usa model i was told all the recalls r the usa 450r from a buddie who has a 450r is it just usa 450r or canadian ones 2

[lumi]

on the vin number plate in the front you should have a dot at the end of your vin number if the dot is that there your model is not fixed from the dealer. you might have the arm recall, also check you serial number , i will get the vin numbers effected up later? did u get a letter from honda, not sure if its only a us problem.





-lumi

[exrider79]

i havent got anythin in the mail do you think i could still send it in?

[lumi]

yea u can sned it in for sure. im almost 100% sure.. call your dealer and make an appoitment and see what they say.




good luck

[jatizasy]

My throttle arm was bad right from the factory.. It caused to bike to stall when you just barely touched the throttle.. I bet it stalled on me 100 times the first day I rode it. Honda told me that was the first one that they had seen bad out of the box.. Anyway, they fixed it and it runs great...

I have an 07 electric start and I was told to always start it in neutral and never hit the throttle and the starter button at the same time.. It starts with no problems even when its cold.. I do suggest you get the recall done...

[hemp450r]

yes it applies to canadian quads, i just got my letter two weeks ago, i live in alberta, had no problems though?

[lumi]

the parts to do it by urself are about 8 dollars from the dealer a easy fix...... and your right, starting it neutral and not touching the throttle is a 100% fix to the e-start problems that everyone has.... but not everyone knows how to start there quad no mattter how much i try to explain people keep blowing there starters up. with .. also dont hold the e-start button for more than 5 seconds. on some quads the fix is a big improve and you can notice it if u bent the stock one.



-lumi

[450rJam]

my 06 has been doing great (starting)
until saterday, it was running hot (I was in a nasty spot full of rock ledges following a friend with a 4X4 driving way too slow)
I had to clutch it alot.

it stalled on me and when I hit the starter it just spun (like it wasnt engaging)
I hit it a couple quick times then it bit hold and fired up.

as the day went on it did this like 3 more times.

after it cools down it starts good but if its hot at all it just spins.

[lumi]

im looking into that problem my freind had with his er.... but how are u sure it wasnt spinning the engine.... just for some info for my book :D Sound no exhaust blow?


my freind once doing a wheelie and stalled it mid air came down and it woudlnt start, than during a quick storage and upright shake for new skidplates it didnt start aswell, and the latest during a steep incline to a roll he shut if off and it didnt start, he tryed and tryed nothing, but unfortuanetly he didnt check to see if it was blowing threw the exhaust to see if it was spinning engine but as i heard it sounded exactly the same as if it was a cold start and engaging


thanks
-lumi

[quadhauler]

If you've converted to a twist throttle does the recall apply?

if you have a twist, it is not needed, although i would take the stock throttle to your dealership and have them replace it, just in case you ever decide to sell...

[450rJam]

so the part being replaced is on the handlebar part of the thumb throttle ?

I need to get mine up to get it replaced, right now the starter is acting up.

I was one of the "mine starts ok" guys, until now.

it sounds like its free spinning, then it will catch and turn the motor over. is this the problem others are having ?

[czrider263]

i took my 06 in for the recall. they gave me a strange look rolling in my 06 LOL.

As for e start i haven't had any problems with the starter or clutch parts but my switch assembly died. that was like 80$. so i was like i don't want any more e start problems so i bought a kick for it.

[big700r]

is this throttle arm on the 06 thats causeing problems the part you put your thumb

[czrider263]

No im pretty sure its the lower arm inside your thumb throttle that grabs the cable.

[450rJam]

I havent heard of any misshaps because of this but there must be a danger of something going really wrong to make a recal for this..............

I have heard of alot of starter problems but no one is going to get hurt if it dont start, so no recal yet.

[brisku]

sucks

[lumi]

yes correct ^^^ to the above... but if there was a problem they would update the parts.. as to the 04/05 bearings.... but there is no problem just user error as i have stated numerous times... most people are causing kickback a dn overheating the starters.


here the post about the thum throttle recall update campaign

http://www.trx450r.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=30178&hl=



-lumi

[450rJam]

mine has been starting great for a year now, idle is turned up a quarter turn and I never touch the gas while starting.
(I have pumped the gas between starting intervals, when I am waiting 15-20 seconds before hitting the button again).

I was suprised at all the "other people" having troubles when mine was doing fine.

now it is like its free spinning the starter (not turning the motor over at all, sounds like the starter gear isnt ingaging)

I now feel that I may have been wrong in suporting the "my starter is great" claims.

I am now saving for a kicker, the luxury of a button is only a luxury when it works, other than that it is nothing but a burden.

I do hope yours continues to be problem free.

[lumi]

Originally posted by 450rJam
mine has been starting great for a year now, idle is turned up a quarter turn and I never touch the gas while starting.
(I have pumped the gas between starting intervals, when I am waiting 15-20 seconds before hitting the button again).

I was suprised at all the "other people" having troubles when mine was doing fine.

now it is like its free spinning the starter (not turning the motor over at all, sounds like the starter gear isnt ingaging)

I now feel that I may have been wrong in suporting the "my starter is great" claims.

I am now saving for a kicker, the luxury of a button is only a luxury when it works, other than that it is nothing but a burden.

I do hope yours continues to be problem free.

thank u and sorry to hear about that... if ur up for it the cltuch costs somwhere aorund 50 bucks? but i dont disagree having both is pretty cool.

[gncc400exxx]

Originally posted by lumi
the parts to do it by urself are about 8 dollars from the dealer a easy fix......



-lumi

Do you have the part # for the $8 easy fix??

thanks

ip address: 148.233.229.235

[lumi]

Originally posted by gncc400exxx
Do you have the part # for the $8 easy fix??

thanks


yea check the link i gave..... very easy fix just grease the parts up when installing..


im trying to wonder if the recalled part might have bent and giving some gas while cranking cuasing kickback.

but if u never hear kickback than it can be oils and over cranking of just the mechanis itself... :confused:

but imo its better to replace a starter clutch at 50 bucks than buying a $500 kick starter kit. jmho



-lumi

-lumi

[hendershot106]

my lower throttle arm broke on me goin full throttle through the whoops last year when my leg jammed into it-- ended my race with a dnf and stripped the rectangular slot out of the cable arm-- i was smart enough to fix it permanently right then--- i put a older style 300/400 ex thumb throttle on it and eliminated the TPS wiring.

[lumi]

yea tps is a bunch of bull****,, as i havent taken it out i recommened everyone does as i will aswell , esp for er owners.



-lumi

[Flodies400ex]

I had mine done its no diffrence but I dont want to get hurt :)