Crf150

[Nick110]

I got to sit on one today. One of the mechanics for the race team im on got it. The thing looks badarse and also sounds bad arse.

The mechanic rode it around on the track and he said it will whoomp on a 85 all day. Hes a A to Pro Am bike rider.

I didnt get a chance to ride it because it was too wet.

yeah the crf150 is going to be/is an awesome machine. i'd love to pick one up...maybe i'll talk to my dad :)

trade in the ttr and some cash for one of those bad boys

[A A R O N]

I've read a couple articles and watched some videos about it, but havn't got to sit on one though. You're right....it does appear to be a very nice bike.

[exrider008]

i was talking to some kid in school that just got one and he said he loves it. he had a cr85 and he toled me it was night and day.

[PolarisRider]

nick how tall are you? and how do you fit on it?

[Tommy 17]

i know a few people that got them and they love them...

its probably the same as the 250f vs the 125... i know after owning my 250f i'll never own another 2 stroke 125!

wow i didnt think they were going to be out yet lol.

[Nick110]

Originally posted by PolarisRider
nick how tall are you? and how do you fit on it?

Im about 5'8" or 5'9" I felt pretty good on it. Deffinatly easily rideable for me. We had a rm85 right next to it looked to be the same size.

just wait for the new ktm's. Im waiting because if ktm makes a 125 or 250 that will romp all over a fourstroke, im gonna be all over it.

[300ex_#387]

Originally posted by Marshmello
just wait for the new ktm's. Im waiting because if ktm makes a 125 or 250 that will romp all over a fourstroke, im gonna be all over it.

Arent the new KTM's already out?

[krt400ex]

ktm has a new 144 that is legal in the ama amatuer classes this yr. that thing has gotta be fast.

[Tommy 17]

Originally posted by Marshmello
just wait for the new ktm's. Im waiting because if ktm makes a 125 or 250 that will romp all over a fourstroke, im gonna be all over it.


the KTM motors maybe good but their suspension can never compete with the big 4... their no link rear design sucks! thats why u don't really see many people racing them... their horrible...

[cop292]

Originally posted by Tommy 17
the KTM motors maybe good but their suspension can never compete with the big 4... their no link rear design sucks! thats why u don't really see many people racing them... their horrible...


What KTM bikes are you talking about that are "horrible" ? Are you talking MX, GNCC, or what kind of racing? If you look at the results from Loretta Lynns, and other national events you may see different.

GO BUCKS!

Originally posted by cop292
What KTM bikes are you talking about that are "horrible" ? Are you talking MX, GNCC, or what kind of racing? If you look at the results from Loretta Lynns, and other national events you may see different.

GO BUCKS! \


He never said they suck, he said their no link rear suspension suks. Thats why the rear shock is so visible on the ktm because there is no rear linkage. Ive been told that the bike is so awesome that the motor almost makes up for the handling.If allesi can put it up on the podiom im sure it wouldnt be that hard for other riders.

yeah i cannot wait for the new KTM 125s and 250s....if they get alot of sales off those then the big 4 might open their eyes to see that alot of epoepl want updated 2 strokes :D :D :D Should be interesting...

i knwo the new KTM 250 is the highest HP 250 ever made and also the lightest...thats a good combo

[hoser 400ex]

my future father in law does 2 stroke bike work and had a chance to dyno a crf 150, and we were very impressed. put out about 3-4 more horse than a stock 85. but if its going to run in a super mini class it will need alot of work. i'm 6' and even i felt comfortable riding on it. a fun bike to ride. it was very snappy. 30lbs heavier than a 85 tho. and about 1500-2000 more i believe. btw on the dyno the stock out of box 150 put out around 23.5 horse.

[AtvMxRider]

Originally posted by cop292
What KTM bikes are you talking about that are "horrible" ? Are you talking MX, GNCC, or what kind of racing? If you look at the results from Loretta Lynns, and other national events you may see different.

GO BUCKS!

For mx racing the only KTM that is worth a chit is the 65. The 85 is ok but they have alot of motor problems.

[AtvMxRider]

Just heard that the 150 will NOT be able to run in the 85 classes. It will run in supermini and they are going to have a second schoolboy class.

[kawi_kfx13]

a guy at the track the other day told me his budy got one...and he raced it 5 times and has re did the motor 2 times already...i told him he was full of **** or the rider is doin somthin rite...honda's a lil better then that i thnk

[exrider008]

Originally posted by kawi_kfx13
a guy at the track the other day told me his budy got one...and he raced it 5 times and has re did the motor 2 times already...i told him he was full of **** or the rider is doin somthin rite...honda's a lil better then that i thnk

ya thats not right.

[cop292]

No matter how you slice it, 4 strokes are the future of organized racing. I think it sucks! The cost alone will keep many new families out of the sport. Don't get me wrong the new 150 is sweet but in a couple of years it is going to be almost impossible for a 2 stroke to be competitive.

dont talk too soon up there ^^^ wait for the new 144cc 125's and i heard they bumped the 250s up a lil too...a lil extra CC will help out the pringers...i think the new KTM 125 and 250s will do good

[hoser 400ex]

like i said in my post, for the 150's to be competitive in supermini class they will need some work. a full blown super mini is 30hp+. stock 150 is around 23. i have seen alot of 2 stroke still be very competitive. and i hope it will stay that way, but i am afraid of what is coming as well......

[mx428]

Originally posted by Marshmello
\If allesi can put it up on the podiom im sure it wouldnt be that hard for other riders. You're forgetting mike alessi rides a factory KTM. Nothing even close to what you could get. If you watch him even with factory suspension the rear end chops all over the place. Just buy a 4 stroke, 2 strokes are dead.

[mx428]

Originally posted by kawi_kfx13
a guy at the track the other day told me his budy got one...and he raced it 5 times and has re did the motor 2 times already...i told him he was full of **** or the rider is doin somthin rite...honda's a lil better then that i thnk If he rides the 150 the same way he rode his 80 (which most young 85 riders will unfortunaly end up doing) yeah, he probably has blown it up twice. The cost of racing a mini just went sky high.

Originally posted by hoser 400ex
like i said in my post, for the 150's to be competitive in supermini class they will need some work. a full blown super mini is 30hp+. stock 150 is around 23. i have seen alot of 2 stroke still be very competitive. and i hope it will stay that way, but i am afraid of what is coming as well......


Getting 7 horses out of that 150 is going to be pretty easy, if not more. pipe,cam and it will already be somewhere up there.

[hoser 400ex]

yes but add far more expensive parts to a far more expensive bike. i think alot of families will stay with the 2 strokes. but hey wat do i know???

Originally posted by mx428
Just buy a 4 stroke, 2 strokes are dead.

I thaught you said your 250f is to expensive so your getting to 07 125's:confused:

[mx428]

Originally posted by Marshmello
I thaught you said your 250f is to expensive so your getting to 07 125's:confused: Yeah, but then i explained the situation to my wealthy grandparents and everything is fine:)

if someone is THAT serious about winning in the minis....so be it...if anything the kids will become batter riders on the 2 strokes, with working the clutch more, downshifting, upshifting....4 strokes make lazy riders and young riders develope habbits very easily....id definatly keep my kid on a 80

Originally posted by Honda86
if someone is THAT serious about winning in the minis....so be it...if anything the kids will become batter riders on the 2 strokes, with working the clutch more, downshifting, upshifting....4 strokes make lazy riders and young riders develope habbits very easily....id definatly keep my kid on a 80

couldnt of said it better. And wtf is up with this new ama amatuer rule 125 vs 125 and 250f vs 250. I mean it will convenient for me because i have a 125 but is this information true?

i havnt heard 125 vs 125 and 250f vs 250f rule....i dont know if i would like it or not....but i sure as hel! would like to hear a full pack of 125s taking the holeshot again!:D

i did heard that 125's can now be a 144 and 250s can be a lil bit bigger displacment too

I honestly dont even think a 144 will match up to piped 250f. I wanna throw bubba back on his 125 for a day and put him up against the lites class riders.:devil: PuRE pWnAGe:o

[troutman561]

That rule would be gay, unless i read wrong its talking about putting crf250's and cr250's(2 stroke vs. 4) correct? How dumb is that, its like racing a 250x vs 450r's, yfz's and ltr's...

if it was putting a 250F up agenst a CR250 i have no problem with it...that is the way it should be....250 vs 250....nothing wrong with a fair fight....and i knwo some people are going to say "but the 4 strokes only fire every other revolution, and 2 stroke fire evey time up" that dont mean the 4 strokes should have twice the CC's ....i think it would be cool to see 250Fs get smoked by the real 250s....but something is going to happen to get all the 2 strokes back out there racing like the old days....maybe they should have seperate classes like 125, 250F and then the real 250s and then the 450 class and then a open class?? i dont know....i guess we will just have to wait and see what happens....

and i do think a 144cc 2 stroke would be very competetive with a 250f....a extra 20cc can do some damage... i rode a KX80 that was bored to 100-someting and it hauled major as$

any body see DV get his *** handed to him by josh grant on the 250f woohoo.

david vuilemen(450 rider) gets smoke by josh grant(250f rider)

Travis pastrana gets his *** handed to him by josh hanson on a 250f

nick wey(450 rider) gets beat by josh grant(250) rider

if a 250f can beat a 450 it shouldnt have trouble with a 250 pinger.

[440exnacsracer]

i rode a 150 the other day at the shop, we just got them in. all i can say is they rip. extremely impressive for a 150. wheelie machine too:devil:

[AtvMxRider]

Originally posted by Marshmello
any body see DV get his *** handed to him by josh grant on the 250f woohoo.

david vuilemen(450 rider) gets smoke by josh grant(250f rider)

Travis pastrana gets his *** handed to him by josh hanson on a 250f

nick wey(450 rider) gets beat by josh grant(250) rider

if a 250f can beat a 450 it shouldnt have trouble with a 250 pinger.


Thats a supercross track outdoors is alot different.

[mx428]

A 139 makes more usable power then a 144, but anyway, i had an rm139, i still got smoked by a stock 250F. A worked 250F has almost as much power as a 250 2 stroke, im gonna bet you'll still see everyone on 4 strokes. Especially since Honda's not even making a single 2 stroke motorcycle in 2008.

[A A R O N]

Originally posted by mx428
Especially since Honda's not even making a single 2 stroke motorcycle in 2008.

Does anybody besides me think that MAYBE, this was a game honda was playing? Maybe they thought it was necessary to discontinue the 2's for 08 to manipulate the ama into changing the rules. It very well could be that they didn't and it was just because they'd rather sell 4 strokes, but I think it might have had something to do with the outcome somewhere along the line. Or I could be completely crazy, but whatever.

And also, the last time I was at the track I witnessed a guy on a kx250 absolutely trash the 450 class......I would love to see him race the 250f's. I think if the rider has even a decent amount of talent you could take a 2-stroke to the top if it's cc vs. cc. Plus, for a lot of people I'm sure, riding a 4 stroke is simply because it's competitive. If it was 250f vs. 250 2 stroke, then there would be less of a performance gap and they could still be more than competetive for a reasonable amout of money (racing a 2-stroke).

[A A R O N]

If it works out like a lot of 2-stroke fans hope it will (as far as class rules) I'd be willing to bet Honda will be back with the 2-strokes in 09 and somebody will be on ebay conning somebody else into buying a TRUE 08:p

Originally posted by mx428
A 139 makes more usable power then a 144, but anyway, i had an rm139, i still got smoked by a stock 250F. A worked 250F has almost as much power as a 250 2 stroke, im gonna bet you'll still see everyone on 4 strokes. Especially since Honda's not even making a single 2 stroke motorcycle in 2008.



Ya but you go to your wealthy grandma for money for any dirtbike you want.. Mabe get a decent rider befor you compare, if seen the sides vary.

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by mx428
A 139 makes more usable power then a 144, but anyway, i had an rm139, i still got smoked by a stock 250F. A worked 250F has almost as much power as a 250 2 stroke, im gonna bet you'll still see everyone on 4 strokes. Especially since Honda's not even making a single 2 stroke motorcycle in 2008.


no offense, but the newer rm 125s r really slow. a stock yz will smoke it.

[mx428]

Originally posted by mitch091
Ya but you go to your wealthy grandma for money for any dirtbike you want.. Mabe get a decent rider befor you compare, if seen the sides vary. So are you saying with a better rider a 250F wouldn't have more power? I race A class, don't try to knock my riding.

[Tommy 17]

everyones makin a big deal outta nothing... face it heres the facts...


2 strokes are dead and 4 strokes are here to stay... its only a matter of time before the crf150 is legal...


the new age 125s all suck... KX125s and cr125s are dead... the rm hasn't been updated in ages... the yz is the only one... they other 3 won't let yamaha have a domination....

[mx428]

Originally posted by Tommy 17
everyones makin a big deal outta nothing... face it heres the facts...


2 strokes are dead and 4 strokes are here to stay... its only a matter of time before the crf150 is legal...


the new age 125s all suck... KX125s and cr125s are dead... the rm hasn't been updated in ages... the yz is the only one... they other 3 won't let yamaha have a domination.... 125's don't all suck, anyone can win on anything. Lowell Spangler rides for team green and is owning b class on a kx125, its good for him cause hes little and it's alot easier to jump onto off of an 80. Are 2 strokes still competative, yeah, depending on whos riding it. A 4 stroke makes going faster easier, that's all.

[Tommy 17]

Originally posted by mx428
125's don't all suck, anyone can win on anything. Lowell Spangler rides for team green and is owning b class on a kx125, its good for him cause hes little and it's alot easier to jump onto off of an 80. Are 2 strokes still competative, yeah, depending on whos riding it. A 4 stroke makes going faster easier, that's all.

yeah but look at it with the crf150 now... most kids won't be riding 80s anymore so it'll be easier to jump to the 250fs...


my friends all still ride the 2 strokes and you can't compare the 02 and 03 bikes vs the new 05 to 07 4 strokes... the only bike that can compete is a yz125 from 05 on...

i bet the other big 3 realease a 4 stroke 150f very soon... infact i've seen the yz and rms already...

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by Tommy 17
yeah but look at it with the crf150 now... most kids won't be riding 80s anymore so it'll be easier to jump to the 250fs...


my friends all still ride the 2 strokes and you can't compare the 02 and 03 bikes vs the new 05 to 07 4 strokes... the only bike that can compete is a yz125 from 05 on...

i bet the other big 3 realease a 4 stroke 150f very soon... infact i've seen the yz and rms already...


u forgot about the 125SX

If Yamaha, Honda etc... quit making 2 strokes I guess their will always be use ones:(

But seriously, are they going to race 250 four strokes with 250 two strokes? If so, why? A 250 2 stroke will smoke a 250F.

[mx428]

Originally posted by Tommy 17
yeah but look at it with the crf150 now... most kids won't be riding 80s anymore so it'll be easier to jump to the 250fs...


my friends all still ride the 2 strokes and you can't compare the 02 and 03 bikes vs the new 05 to 07 4 strokes... the only bike that can compete is a yz125 from 05 on...

i bet the other big 3 realease a 4 stroke 150f very soon... infact i've seen the yz and rms already... Where have you seen the yz and rmz150's?

[250ex13]

MX428
I'm gunna go make you a sandwich:)

Originally posted by 250ex13
MX428
I'm gunna go make you a sandwich:)
lol:p

[Tommy 17]

Originally posted by krt400ex
u forgot about the 125SX


i'm talking about real bikes... not the crap no link horrible suspension bikes of KTM...


trust me the rmz150 and yz150f exist...

[mx428]

Originally posted by Tommy 17
i'm talking about real bikes... not the crap no link horrible suspension bikes of KTM...


trust me the rmz150 and yz150f exist... Where did you see them?

[mx428]

Originally posted by 250ex13
MX428
I'm gunna go make you a sandwich:) I prefer strawberry jelly and smooth Jiff peanut butter. Thanks:)

[250ex13]

Originally posted by mx428
I prefer strawberry jelly and smooth Jiff peanut butter. Thanks:) Errmmm... Will rassberry jelly do? i'm out of Strawbeerry

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by Tommy 17
i'm talking about real bikes... not the crap no link horrible suspension bikes of KTM...


trust me the rmz150 and yz150f exist...


i meant that u forgot about the one other bike that can compete with the 250fs. i would like to see pics of the 150s that u r talking about.....post plz

what is wrong with people....whoever said a 02 or 03 125 cant compete with a 250f is nuts...i remember a couple years back a buddy of mine has a 1992 RM 125 and itt was a peice and he was a great rider....he came from a poor familly and often would just ride over peoples houses like mine for food and a place to sleep, and he would race whenever he could get a truck to go to the track and he would kill the new 125s and 250f...and even some 250 2 strokes....he was a great rider and now days people got nerve to call a 2004 KTM 125 crap? :eek2: :rolleyes: thats shocking....maybe some of these riders should put more time in on their bikes instead of looking at the magazines to see witch bike gets a better review on their motor or shocks...

and another thing...none of us are going pro, i know i might be crushing a few peoples dreams but i am being honest, it dont matter if u r a 2 stroke or 4 stroke, even tho i prefer 2 stroke as long as people are riding all the time, they will get better, even if they are on "not real" bike like a KTM 125

[cop292]

Originally posted by Tommy 17
i'm talking about real bikes... not the crap no link horrible suspension bikes of KTM...


trust me the rmz150 and yz150f exist...



Where do they exist??? I would love to see some pics.

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by Honda86
what is wrong with people....whoever said a 02 or 03 125 cant compete with a 250f is nuts...i remember a couple years back a buddy of mine has a 1992 RM 125 and itt was a peice and he was a great rider....he came from a poor familly and often would just ride over peoples houses like mine for food and a place to sleep, and he would race whenever he could get a truck to go to the track and he would kill the new 125s and 250f...and even some 250 2 strokes....he was a great rider and now days people got nerve to call a 2004 KTM 125 crap? :eek2: :rolleyes: thats shocking....maybe some of these riders should put more time in on their bikes instead of looking at the magazines to see witch bike gets a better review on their motor or shocks...

and another thing...none of us are going pro, i know i might be crushing a few peoples dreams but i am being honest, it dont matter if u r a 2 stroke or 4 stroke, even tho i prefer 2 stroke as long as people are riding all the time, they will get better, even if they are on "not real" bike like a KTM 125


agree 100%

[Tommy 17]

honda 86... put the same calibar of rider on the 2 bikes and the new aged bike is gonna win... its not even a question... of course a good rider on a old 92 is gonna be a ****ty rider on a 05...

i don't have pics of the bikes but lets just say i saw them at a local track being tested by a few riders... don't believe me i don't care

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two riders at almost rhe same skill level. you cant tell me the 2 strokes arent competitve(sp?)

[CRich[814]]

i hate that wreck so much.

[killerofcrows48]

wow that was a nasty wreck

2 strokes can still compete...easily, and with the 125s ging up to 144 i think youll see a few people go out and grand a new KTM or bore out the 125s....id much rather ride a 125 then a 250F for many reasons

[440bigborekit]

im not trying to sound dick or anything and i ride a 250f and this got nothing to do with it if you have a 125 no offenece i even used to ride one but 125s have no balls at all coming out of a corner they stumble all over them selves and as for racing the 250 two strokes with my bike i dont have a worry in my mind its gonna come down to rider stock 250 pingers make around 43hp and weigh over 230 when my 250f cranks out 44hp at the wheel (worked) believe it or not and weights a little over 200 THIS JUST MEANS ITS GONNA COME DOWN TO RIDER if you good you can easily smoke and 250 pinger on a track plus you all gotta calm down the rule isnt even final and from speaking to a ama rep. he dosent think its gonna happen.

[mx428]

Originally posted by 440bigborekit
n my 250f cranks out 44hp at the wheel (worked) believe it or not No, I don't. Grant Langston's 06 Monster/Pro Circuit KX250F Made 44 HP. And that's a factory bike. You'd have to spend sooo much money to make it have that much power.

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by mx428
No, I don't. Grant Langston's 06 Monster/Pro Circuit KX250F Made 44 HP. And that's a factory bike. You'd have to spend sooo much money to make it have that much power.


i agree, and his bike has parts that r not available to the public. 125s do not fall flat on their faces out of cornes. they flat out rip. my buddy's bike will smoke...excuse me....has beaten 450s without thinking about it. and it will blow the doors off of my 400

I spoke with one of the congressmen from Minnesota today, and they basically said that the only reason why the manufacturers are for the fair class rule, was because they have so many 2-strokes out there that they haven't sold, so they want to get this rule passed, so the value for 2-strokes will go up and people will now buy them. Then, as soon as they have sold the majority of them, they will switch the rules back.

Right now, either the manufacturers "eat it", meaning that they can't do anything with them, or they pass this rule and make profit on them, once again.

Also, they rule has not completely passed, it only passed congress, it still has to go through the Board of Directors. So don't wet your pants quite yet...

And if this rule does happen to pass the Board of Directors (which by the sound of it, is highly unlikely), each District will be able to vote on how they want to run it. They will take a majority vote at each district banquet and majority rules. They can either replace the 125 and 250 classes right now with it, or they can keep those and add the fair class rule classes. And in each banquet, I can almost guarentee you that majority will rule to not have this class replace the current 125 and 250 classes. And in the fair class rules, nobody will race because how many people have a 250 2-stroke? Not many, or not enough to make profit off of. They could also take away the 125 classes, and keep this fair class rule running, but then just add a 250F class, which basically is the 125 class, but in the 250F class, you can only run 250F's in it (obviously). That way, a 250F has a class that it can compete in. If this rule passes, there will not be a class that the 250F will be able to compete in, plain and simple. Which is completely unfair to 95% of the racers out there.

But, if this rule passes, I can almost guarentee you that it will not last long (my guess is a matter of a few years).

Also, the guy that I also spoke with, said that he currently has two 250F's, that his son rides, and he asked his son if he wants to go buy a 250 2-stroke to be competitive in these new class (supposing it passes...), and his son said heck no. He does not want to ride another 2-stroke because riding his 250F is so much easier, and riding a 250 2-stroke will be so much harder to go fast, that he doesn't want to get on one ever again. So even if this rule does pass, chances are the majority of the class will be 250F's anyway.


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[rmz250]

Originally posted by mx428
No, I don't. Grant Langston's 06 Monster/Pro Circuit KX250F Made 44 HP. And that's a factory bike. You'd have to spend sooo much money to make it have that much power.

Yea that kid is a complete idiot. Hes the one who also thinks a 250f can make 60hp. The most power out of a crf250 I have seen is 43 hp.

[rmz250]

Originally posted by 440bigborekit
im not trying to sound dick or anything and i ride a 250f and this got nothing to do with it if you have a 125 no offenece i even used to ride one but 125s have no balls at all coming out of a corner they stumble all over them selves and as for racing the 250 two strokes with my bike i dont have a worry in my mind its gonna come down to rider stock 250 pingers make around 43hp and weigh over 230 when my 250f cranks out 44hp at the wheel (worked) believe it or not and weights a little over 200 THIS JUST MEANS ITS GONNA COME DOWN TO RIDER if you good you can easily smoke and 250 pinger on a track plus you all gotta calm down the rule isnt even final and from speaking to a ama rep. he dosent think its gonna happen.

Everything you just siad it retarded. You have no clue what your talking about and your crf 250 will NEVER see 44 hp at the rear wheel.

[rmz250]

Originally posted by mx428
So are you saying with a better rider a 250F wouldn't have more power? I race A class, don't try to knock my riding.


You don't race a class. Last year you were in schoolboy and you were out with a bad shoulder and now your back and in a class??

[440bigborekit]

^^^ i had enought of your attitude ima reportin you to the mods

[rmz250]

Originally posted by 440bigborekit
^^^ i had enought of your attitude ima reportin you to the mods

cry about it. your false uneducated post bring the arguments.

[440bigborekit]

your cellin me uneducated whatever dude and by the way pro circuit aint all that great theres better ways to get power out of crfs then pro circuit my rhc head and motor was wayy faster and stronger then my PC motor and thas what i got now the pc head and ****s on my back up bike and when rhc did my motor he said it should psh around 43-44 hp so why dont you get your info before you run your mouth.

[rmz250]

Ron Hamp himself can't even get 44 hp out of a crf250 and I guarentee you if he can't get those numbers you won't come close to those numbers by yourself. oh yeah give me a list of mods on your crf.

[mx428]

Originally posted by rmz250
You don't race a class. Last year you were in schoolboy and you were out with a bad shoulder and now your back and in a class?? Yeah, I race local stuff in A but theres only 4 or 5 guys in the class. I don't race seriously anymore, after I kept getting hurt my dad cut off involvment/finances so I just go race with buddies. But i'm not slow.

[mx428]

Originally posted by 440bigborekit
your cellin me uneducated whatever dude and by the way pro circuit aint all that great theres better ways to get power out of crfs then pro circuit my rhc head and motor was wayy faster and stronger then my PC motor and thas what i got now the pc head and ****s on my back up bike and when rhc did my motor he said it should psh around 43-44 hp so why dont you get your info before you run your mouth. If you genuinly have the Pro Circuit motor you say yu would literally have over $15,000 in the motor, ATLEAST. And you'd have a full PC Ti-4 GP system with a welded on cone endcap, which you get free from PC if you spend 10 grand. Do you have that?


EDIT: and on a side not where i was saturday (Pagoda, a D6 Track) they had a pit bike race and I saw 1 brand new 2007 crf150. It sounds soooo good, like a big thumper. The guys who had it were working on making an airbox so it could accept pro circuit duals.

[440bigborekit]

rhc special grind cam
rhc port and polish
bronze seats
pc ti. valves and springs
pc 13.5 : 1 piston
decked head
lighthened crank
ligthened fly wheel
2006 crf carb
hinson clutch setup
gold excels
talon hubs
graphics
pro circuit ti-4 exhaust
pro circuit ti- head pipe
factory connection susp.
graphics
fluydline radiators
renthal chain and sprockets
runs on c12
pro circuit ignition
pro tapers
rg3 clamps
the list gos on
and the motor was done by my uncle a mechanic for over 30 yars and knows wats up alot of my buddys have him build there motors

and now lets here about your pro circuit kxf

edit : and soon to have 307 ice cube stroker with all my stuff

[mx428]

Originally posted by 440bigborekit
rhc special grind cam
rhc port and polish
bronze seats
pc ti. valves and springs
pc 13.5 : 1 piston
decked head
lighthened crank
ligthened fly wheel
2006 crf carb
hinson clutch setup
gold excels
talon hubs
graphics
pro circuit ti-4 exhaust
pro circuit ti- head pipe
factory connection susp.
graphics
fluydline radiators
renthal chain and sprockets
runs on c12
pro circuit ignition
pro tapers
rg3 clamps
the list gos on
and the motor was done by my uncle a mechanic for over 30 yars and knows wats up alot of my buddys have him build there motors

and now lets here about your pro circuit kxf Pics? I had a PC motor, kind of (Ti valves, PC cams, High Comp Piston, PC head mods, ect, with a PC ti-4 lowboy exhaust but it blew up so it's back to stock except for a PC exhaust and high comp piston.


Here's mine.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b137/Alloymx428/Bike%20Pics/kxf007.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b137/Alloymx428/Bike%20Pics/kxf006.jpg

[440bigborekit]

ill give it to ya nice bike hers a pic of mine

[440bigborekit]

another

[440bigborekit]

right now its has new bars hang guards and numbers and lil deff will get new pics soon and my family has spent more thne 10 grand with pro circuit over the years not just in my bike tho they def kno there stuff but theres better places i have there end cap coming in i kno what you mean with the exhaust and its sick im not lookin to fight on here but i just get realy pissed easily italian blood i guess lol

[mx428]

Originally posted by 440bigborekit
ill give it to ya nice bike hers a pic of mine I don't see RG3 clamps, gold excels, or a PC exhaust.

Originally posted by 440bigborekit
ill give it to ya nice bike hers a pic of mine

and if anything thatsa yoshi pipe.

[Shift_450R]

Originally posted by mx428
Pics? I had a PC motor, kind of (Ti valves, PC cams, High Comp Piston, PC head mods, ect, with a PC ti-4 lowboy exhaust but it blew up so it's back to stock except for a PC exhaust and high comp piston.


Here's mine.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b137/Alloymx428/Bike%20Pics/kxf007.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b137/Alloymx428/Bike%20Pics/kxf006.jpg

nice bike, but sorry to get off topic. But, do you still ride or race because i have never seen any pics of you racing or riding.

[rmz250]

440bigborekit- were talking legal limits here. Not race gas. If your not racing which you obviously aren't why didn't you just buy a 450 which will be more reliable and faster instead of ragging out the 250f?

[mx428]

Originally posted by Shift_450R
nice bike, but sorry to get off topic. But, do you still ride or race because i have never seen any pics of you racing or riding. I don't ride that much, by bikes pretty much sit right now. I raced 3 A class events at the beginning of the season and since then i've been really into BMX, so it's been a while since i've ridden.

[rmz250]

Originally posted by mx428
I don't ride that much, by bikes pretty much sit right now. I raced 3 A class events at the beginning of the season and since then i've been really into BMX, so it's been a while since i've ridden.

Oh yeah your missing the engine plug on your ignition cover to. same one my kxf lost to.

[440bigborekit]

thats a yoshi on there its a old pic heres the gold rims

[440bigborekit]

i polished the lip on them and it runs on um gas when i race i got it dynoed on race gas and usually run a 50/50 mix off c12 and 93 so you dont you go **** your self noth of you all you do is pull my bike down when it cleary has alot more invested into it thne both of your kxfs which are preaty much stock **** both of you i was trying to be nice but **** it you can both kiss my ***

[440bigborekit]

andd yes i raced a few b class events this year at nemx this bike will still wromp on the 250fs with pump gas which i run when i race i reaced a fe harescrambles with it to learn stuff about me before you talk **** i havent even been on a dirtbike a half a year and already racing b class so give me a break

[rmz250]

Originally posted by 440bigborekit
andd yes i raced a few b class events this year at nemx this bike will still wromp on the 250fs with pump gas which i run when i race i reaced a fe harescrambles with it to learn stuff about me before you talk **** i havent even been on a dirtbike a half a year and already racing b class so give me a break

Yea, but my stock crf450 will "womp" on your 250f. Mine also has much less invested in it to.

[krt400ex]

now now now, children. let's stop arguing over whos bike is better. why don't u line up sie by side at a track and see whos is better.

[TGW_400ex]

If your putting a 307 in it you must plan on not racing anymore?

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by TGW_400ex
If your putting a 307 in it you must plan on not racing anymore?

no, he can just harras the 450s, cuz he will be legal in the 450 class. he will also be legal in the vet class

[440bigborekit]

Originally posted by rmz250
Yea, but my stock crf450 will "womp" on your 250f. Mine also has much less invested in it to.

no **** sherlock...450s are deff rocket ships

[rmz250]

Originally posted by 440bigborekit
no **** sherlock...450s are deff rocket ships

ok, tough guy. when your ragged 250 is blown up in another 30 hours talk to me.

[440bigborekit]

Originally posted by TGW_400ex
If your putting a 307 in it you must plan on not racing anymore?

no im still gonna race my bike i have 2 250fs mine and my dsads which im buying and putting the 307 stroker motor on with the PC head and stuff my bike is gonna be my race bike for reg races and ill have a open class bike.

[440bigborekit]

Originally posted by rmz250
ok, tough guy. when your ragged 250 is blown up in another 30 hours talk to me.

haha whatever dude i just gave your 450 a compliment and how do you say ragged up 250 lol you make me laff dude realy thanks lol

[440bigborekit]

lets see what your 450 looks like it must be fun riding one when your 14 years old.

since when are 450s rocket ships? :rolleyes:

[440bigborekit]

oo mna heres another 250r guy, im talking aboutthe dirtbike brotha not the quad you kno the dirtbike that makes over 50hp stock and weights 230lbs i would say thats a rocket ship

i rode two 450 bikes....they didnt seem like rocket ships 2 me

[440bigborekit]

well then hop on one and rie them again or ride one thats a 2004 or newer dont tell me they arent fast there alot faster then any 250r i ever seen 250r arent even that fast unless tey got a **** load of work into them but at the end of the day i still wont want one dirtbikes are where its at for me and if you ride a 450 bike right its fast not just going into a feild and going throught the gears

[440bigborekit]

what kind of 450s have you rode to?

2006 yamaha (dont rmemeber what pipe was on it ) and the 2005 RMZ 450 with a yoshi pipe...quick...yes...but to say they are a rocket ship?? come on man.... definatly not the fastest thing off road i ever rode...but they were nice bikes

[rmz250]

Originally posted by 440bigborekit
lets see what your 450 looks like it must be fun riding one when your 14 years old.

what does age have to do with anything? I'd like to see you at the track revving the snot out of your 250f while i'm putting on my 450. see ya!

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1746/dsc00220ak9.jpg

[440bigborekit]

oo i deff agree with you but i believe there not a quicker mx bike out faster yes deff there not realy that fast but there deff quick as hell and still do over 75 thats what i ment by rocket ships

[rmz250]

Originally posted by 440bigborekit
oo i deff agree with you but i believe there not a quicker mx bike out faster yes deff there not realy that fast but there deff quick as hell and still do over 75 thats what i ment by rocket ships

yea cuz we all know you do 75 at the track.

[440bigborekit]

Originally posted by rmz250
what does age have to do with anything? I'd like to see you at the track revving the snot out of your 250f while i'm putting on my 450. see ya!

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1746/dsc00220ak9.jpg

lol mabie we should meet up somewhere then and see how realy fast you are southwick, mototown usa uyou name it the 2003 450s arent evnthat crazy im not saying its a bd bike its nice but i dont think ill have a problem keeping up on a track no effence

i guess me and you have different concepts of what a "rocket ship" is.... the fastest dirt bike i ever saw was a old worked CR 500....it walked all over our stock KX (i expected it to win but not by that much!) i know it had a pipe, and was ported, i would assume reeds and everythign else too....i wouldnt be surprised if it made over 75 hp....

but yeah those 50 hp 450s are rocket ships :p

when i rode the suzuki i had it maxed out and i was lookin for another gear, if that says anything about what i expected, or better yet how much i was let down

[rmz250]

Originally posted by 440bigborekit
lol mabie we should meet up somewhere then and see how realy fast you are southwick, mototown usa uyou name it the 2003 450s arent evnthat crazy im not saying its a bd bike its nice but i dont think ill have a problem keeping up on a track no effence

you probably will keep up, you will also be replacing the valves in a couple of rides to. Thats why I bought a 450 to mess around on, I can practice on it and race my 250f without worrying about the bike going south.

[440bigborekit]

yea man you right about the whole reliable thing deff. but with proper matianince there last for a long time believe me but its gets to be a pain in the *** changing the oil everyride along with the filter but i always keep it in great cond and the valves stay preaty good its all how you take care of it i wanna get a 450 soon for the same reason ima have factory connection do the suspension and get a set of bars that it a reliable bike and quick i agree with you on that deff. my 250f has been a champ tho

[440bigborekit]

Originally posted by Honda86
i guess me and you have different concepts of what a "rocket ship" is.... the fastest dirt bike i ever saw was a old worked CR 500....it walked all over our stock KX (i expected it to win but not by that much!) i know it had a pipe, and was ported, i would assume reeds and everythign else too....i wouldnt be surprised if it made over 75 hp....

but yeah those 50 hp 450s are rocket ships :p

when i rode the suzuki i had it maxed out and i was lookin for another gear, if that says anything about what i expected, or better yet how much i was let down

lol your right cr500s are some crazy mo fos but how about you get that c and ill hop on a 450 and were go to a track and see who finihes first those cr500s are retardly fast but where are you gonna use it besides sand and desert and the pros 450s make 73hp at the wheel and there only a 450 4 STROKE lol cr500s are bad *** tho lol

the pros are not making 73 hp..:rolleyes: but if you hve dynos, please post them

and i dont ride strictly MX....hell im not even a serious racer....i ride for fun....like i said i dont own that CR...i just ride for fun, i am not going pro so cutting a couple seconds off my lap time dont matter....but a good rider on the 500 should be able to beat the same caliper of rider on the 450

[Nick110]

Originally posted by Honda86
the pros are not making 73 hp..:rolleyes: but if you hve dynos, please post them

and i dont ride strictly MX....hell im not even a serious racer....i ride for fun....like i said i dont own that CR...i just ride for fun, i am not going pro so cutting a couple seconds off my lap time dont matter....but a good rider on the 500 should be able to beat the same caliper of rider on the 450

Dasa is rumered to be makin 70hp on a 04/05 stock bore/stroke 450r.

[mx428]

Originally posted by rmz250
Oh yeah your missing the engine plug on your ignition cover to. same one my kxf lost to. Nah i have that, the bike wasn't togther at the point that picture was taken, the plastic/tank isnt bolten on ethier:p

rumors....i heard rumors about h 3 cylender 650EX too... i dont see many 450s goin past 60+ hp

[Nick110]

Originally posted by Honda86
rumors....i heard rumors about h 3 cylender 650EX too... i dont see many 450s goin past 60+ hp

I take it your not really with or around the whole racing scene very much. 60+ Is very attainable out of a 450. Call of Dan of Dasa and talk to him about it. Im sure he will post graphs somewhere soon. He posted one that was 69.3 but i cant find it.

[Nick110]

Here you go sack face..:D

http://www.*******.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=799&st=40

the graph for 69hp

http://www.*******.net/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=429

[AtvMxRider]

:ermm:

it says i have to be logged in to see the dyno...but 69 hp is pretty good (if its true, all dynos are different)....how many thousands does it take to get that hp?? and how relieable are the motors?? there isnt a whole lot of 450s part the 60HP mark...thats the point i was trying to make...some do it but not many...as time goes on they will get them to run a lil bit better but for the most part the motors are maxed out IMO...

[440bigborekit]

and thats on a dasa motor a trx motor i believe factory honda and suzuki get even more out of them (bikes) so there you go hope you feel ultra retared lol

[Nick110]

Originally posted by Honda86
it says i have to be logged in to see the dyno...but 69 hp is pretty good (if its true, all dynos are different)....how many thousands does it take to get that hp?? and how relieable are the motors?? there isnt a whole lot of 450s part the 60HP mark...thats the point i was trying to make...some do it but not many...as time goes on they will get them to run a lil bit better but for the most part the motors are maxed out IMO...



It will take thousandSSSSSSs to get that work done. I cant imagine it being reliable. Dan said he has a 06 450r motor at 63hp and it doesnt even have his newest parts in it yet.

it costs thousands and tousands to get that work done...ill just slap some cub on my banshee and get 90+....or port my cylenders and get 75 (with the correct set up) and with all that extra saved cash i can buy another quad :p

i dont feel retard at all, i said NOT MANY 450s get past the 60 hp mark, i know some have...some banshees have hit the 140-150 mark, twice the power of the 450s

[440bigborekit]

ok then take those 145 hp banshess and go to the track or the woods there only good for gonig stright thats it wow drag racing that takes talent good job.

i didnt mention anything about the track, i was just talking strictly HP numbers....450 are coming along though

[250xridamatt]

Anyone else read the comparison of the crf 150 and cr 85 in the newest twmx? Seems like a pretty sweet bike to me.