kick start

[Dragsz09]

can i get a kick start for my 400ex??

[miller821]

Nope. I doubt you could unless you wanted to switch to maybe a cr400 dirtbike engine.

[bansheemorphine]

xr not cr and you have to change the entire motor not just the bottom end i think it has been tryed to get a kick starter on an ex haven't saw a successful one yet

XR400s are a trail bike. You think them trail riders want to kick start their bikes? No way if they could have a elec start i bet they would.
I bet you, you could easly trade some guy your motor and every thing for his xr 400 motor.

That way you get the kick start you always wanted and the other guy gets his elec.

[250x_kyle]

no way possible for a 400ex motor

[oldskoolex400]

if your gonna do that why not build a hybrid

[BigFish]

It wouldn't work due to the motor's placement in the frame. The frame and brake pedal/lever is in the way.

[steve #7]

Don't listen to them I did it wasn't hard.

[250x_kyle]

Originally posted by steve #7
Don't listen to them I did it wasn't hard.

um ok post some pics. what parts did you use? my friends been working on figureing out the kicker set up for a while. does it kick forward or backwards?

[dariusld]

Originally posted by steve #7
Don't listen to them I did it wasn't hard.

I did it too. You want proof.

[billyboy]

can be done. You use the XR400 motor from the early years around 2000. If your lucky you can find one water cooled.

[steve #7]

Come to the tt nationals it separates the men from the boys.

[steve #7]

here it is

[GPracer2500]

Anymore details on your engine settup?

[billyboy]

Originally posted by steve #7
here it is

NICE!!!
I have heard a lot of them but that is the true first one that I have seen with my own eyes... :eek2: Hows that bad boy run? and what type of sprockets and teeth count are you running?
I bet that thing flies!!!

Have you heard of anyone using the water cooled ones they had?

[steve #7]

Here is the diference in the flywheel . 2 1/4 lbs. lighter do the math. 38 % more torque on a dyno to the rear wheels. So sometimes when someone comes up with a Question lets not make fun of them . their only try to go faster.. I only ran this set up in practice . This next race it will be used in open A. So tune them big bore 450's. Oh yeah a stroker crank with a standard stroke piston makes 15-1 comp. but you'll need the biggest web cam with alot of valve overlap to kick it. Hot cams do not work.

[davetheslave]

:eek2: WOW!! What did you have to do to get kick start? I would do almost anything for that setup!!

[steve #7]

Its a 460 stroker . web cam ,titanium valves. head has a seperate oil cooler. Knife edged crank, home made 15-1 piston. 15 -35 sprocket. going to a 16 to try and keep the wheels down .Head and intake are ported and flow benched ,very thin. The only pipe that makes power is Curtis sparks X-6. tried most of the others . Although at Illinois Curtis Sparks spent some time with us and suggested a shorter system from him. Cutis Sparks FCR carb, All others are junk . been there tried them. We have blown many motors getting this combination right. we try all of are inventions on two other 400ex's The most power increase of all upgrades that is really noticable is the removal of the electric start. Its not the dead weight that makes the biggest difference . Its the recipricating weight. A stock 400 with a 440 big bore X-6 pipe and curtis sparks fcr 39 carb and a 2 lb 6 oz lighter flywheel will pull a hole shot on most other built atvs. Are next project is a Honda 450 for pro-am unlimited I'm sure it will be a rocket compared to the 400. we're using what we have and getting the most out of it . Isn't that what it all about. So you guys that are to weak to kick remember . I you aint first your last!! See ya in Virginia I'll bring the tissues this time so we can keep the mud to the minimum. Steve

[tar]

Originally posted by steve #7
Its a 460 stroker . web cam ,titanium valves. head has a seperate oil cooler. Knife edged crank, home made 15-1 piston. 15 -35 sprocket. going to a 16 to try and keep the wheels down .Head and intake are ported and flow benched ,very thin. The only pipe that makes power is Curtis sparks X-6. tried most of the others . Although at Illinois Curtis Sparks spent some time with us and suggested a shorter system from him. Cutis Sparks FCR carb, All others are junk . been there tried them. We have blown many motors getting this combination right. we try all of are inventions on two other 400ex's The most power increase of all upgrades that is really noticable is the removal of the electric start. Its not the dead weight that makes the biggest difference . Its the recipricating weight. A stock 400 with a 440 big bore X-6 pipe and curtis sparks fcr 39 carb and a 2 lb 6 oz lighter flywheel will pull a hole shot on most other built atvs. Are next project is a Honda 450 for pro-am unlimited I'm sure it will be a rocket compared to the 400. we're using what we have and getting the most out of it . Isn't that what it all about. So you guys that are to weak to kick remember . I you aint first your last!! See ya in Virginia I'll bring the tissues this time so we can keep the mud to the minimum. Steve

Thats awesome...what does it make on the dyno?

[steve #7]

numbers will be posted after the last national event.

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[steve #7]

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