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Quad18star
09-13-2006, 05:40 PM
I don't know if any of you have seen or heard about it , but this afternoon there was another school shooting which left 2 people dead and 19 other injured ... several critically injured . It all happened at Dawson College in Montreal Quebec .

Apparently a man dressed all in black and sporting a mohawk walked into the school and started shooting away at people . Police arrived on the scene quickly and shot the gunman as he was trying to leave the college .

Here's the news article if anyone wants to read it .


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A gunman with a Mohawk haircut and black clothing opened fire inside Montreal's Dawson College on Wednesday, killing one woman and injuring 19 others, before police fatally shot him.


CTV.ca News Staff

Students comfort each other following the shooting at Montreal's Dawson College on Wednesday. (Josh Brown for CTV.ca)
Police had earlier believed there were as many as four gunmen, as shots reportedly continued to be heard.

The female victim, believed to be in her 20s, died from her wounds in hospital. Officials said up to eight people remain in critical condition.

CTV's Jed Kahane said police received a call about the shooting just before 1 p.m. Witnesses heard shots at about 12:45 that lasted for 30 minutes.

A police officer outside the college saw the gunman enter the building, and police quickly arrived at the scene. The suspect was shot dead as he tried to leave the school.

Panicked students described a scene of chaos and violence, as people fled or hid from the shooter.

"He shot right at us. And when he shot at us we jumped and ran the other day," said student Ali Hussein. He added that one bullet struck a wall close to where he was standing.

Dawson College is located at the corner of Atwater and Sherbrooke in the heart of downtown Montreal.

One student captured a cellphone video of police officers inside the school with their guns drawn. Someone then shouts to evacuate the building.

Students told Kahane they saw someone roaming the halls with a gun, and heard at least 20 shots fired.

One student told Montreal radio station 940 News she was on the phone at the college's front entrance when she heard five gunshots and a window break. She walked into the hallway and was inches from the gunman.

"All of a sudden I turned around and saw a man dressed in black with a huge assault rifle," she said.

"People didn't know what was going on ... they thought it was a joke."

The man ran into the corner of the cafeteria to hide from police, she said.

A number of officers surrounded the school with guns drawn, while others helped to evacuate students from inside the English-language CEGEP school which has about 10,000 students.

Gary Clemence, a psychology teacher, said the college is "usually a really quiet, peaceful place. No problems, no knives, anything."

Prime Minister Stephen Harper called the shooting "cowardly" and a "senseless act of violence."

"On behalf of the Government of Canada and all Canadians, our thoughts and prayers are with the injured and their loved ones, and to the students and staff of the college who are all victims of this terrible tragedy," said Harper in a statement.

Montreal Mayor Gerald Tremblay said Canadians should reach out to the victims.

"This is so tragic. How do we talk to the parents who are going through this? All I can say is that I feel for them, and I care for them," he told Newsnet.

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Today's incident is horrifyingly reminiscent of another school shooting in Montreal. On Dec. 6, 1989, Marc Lepine killed 14 engineering students at the Ecole Polytechnique.

The mass murder prompted tighter gun laws, which included the creation of the controversial national firearms registry. It also prompted Parliament to create the National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence against Women in 1991, to coincide with the anniversary of the tragedy.

During Wednesday's shooting, some students and teachers barricaded themselves in classrooms, waiting for police to rescue them.

As many as 40 students and staff hid on the seventh floor, including eyewitness Adam Perez, who spoke to CTV Newsnet.

"No one came to really warn us," said Perez. "Our first warning of the incident (came from) phone calls and text messages."

One student told 940 News she saw two people who had been shot, including one who had been hit in the neck.

The student said a friend told her four people had been shot.

Michel Boyer, a student at the college, told CTV Newsnet he saw the gunman in a hallway leading to the cafeteria.

"I saw the gunman who was dressed in black and at that time he was shooting at people. It was probably one of the most frightening moments of my life," Boyer said.

Images captured from a helicopter hovering over the scene showed hordes of students running frantically from the building.

A number of police vehicles surrounded what appeared to be a bloodsoaked sidewalk outside the school, and several yellow ambulance vehicles were seen speeding from the scene after victims were carried from the building on stretchers and loaded in the vehicles.

Family members of Dawson College students seeking more information can call (514) 280-2880 or (514) 280-2806.

Meanwhile, medical staff at the Montreal General Hospital Emergency Service are asking the public to avoid the hospital's emergency rooms, so doctors can treat the victims.

Concerned family members can call a special hotline at the hospital: 514-843-2839.

killerofcrows48
09-13-2006, 05:43 PM
some people just dont know how to deal with their issues so they take it out on other people :ermm:

quadwanter
09-13-2006, 05:43 PM
thats bad news...thats really weird though because in a school in St. Louis, Missouri today a kid brought a gun and the cops shot him in the leg or something. So it didnt escalate.

hardkoratvmxr
09-13-2006, 05:52 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Quad18star
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"He shot right at us. And when he shot at us we jumped and ran the other day," said student Ali Hussein.


umm did anyone one else see the name and think of someone else

Hornbreaker
09-13-2006, 06:39 PM
I hate seeing this. It really makes owning a gun a lot harder to buy. On the other hand - Look past the name & count how many typo's there are. This reporter must also write for Dirt Wheels!

mstrav1
09-13-2006, 06:42 PM
who are these wack jobs? I have guns and have never thought of something lame like this. If you break into my house your done, but thats where it stops!!! maybe from now on when they sell people guns, they should have to take a mental evaluation!!!!!!

Doober
09-13-2006, 07:09 PM
id like to know what goes on in these peoples minds

400exrules
09-13-2006, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by mstrav1
maybe from now on when they sell people guns, they should have to take a mental evaluation!!!!!!

i think they do in canada....i hear its really hard to get a permit and a gun up there

Mxjunkie
09-13-2006, 07:11 PM
It's a shame.. I cant stand people that do this dumbchit.. But we have to take into consideration alot of kids get teased and tourmented everyday by their peers.. I guess when enough is enough everyone deals with things differntly..


on a side note now everyone with a mohawk will be looked down even more :o

shano
09-13-2006, 07:28 PM
We arent really allowed assault rifles in Canada, so guarenteed they we're off the street. And its weird, wouldnt think this would happen in Montreal.. Very gay...

Quad18star
09-14-2006, 05:15 AM
Originally posted by 400exrules
i think they do in canada....i hear its really hard to get a permit and a gun up there

You're right , it is tough to get a license to own a gun up here . There's a long process that must be followed , including a background evaluation , mental evaluation and testing for the safe operation of a firearm .

After reading the updates this morning , it appears the gunman was a 25 year old man and was apparently armed with 3 firearms , including semi-automatic rifle , which is legal to own in Canada .

My best guess , is that it's just some guy that flipped out over something , and decided to take it out at the College .

Back in 1989 , another 25 year old from Montreal entered a school and killed 14 women saying that it was the " Feminists" that were holding him back from starting his career and losing his jobs .

bwamos
09-14-2006, 11:59 AM
Banning guns or making permits harder to get only limits the honest citizen. The criminals will still have illegal guns.

It's like chaining up your quad. It only keeps the honest people honest. If a crook want's it.. he's gonna get it.

Tom TRX250R
09-14-2006, 11:58 PM
That guy was f'n weird who did that!!! They were explaining his story on Fox news at my college campus. I wish they would have let the little freak live so I could finish him off with a bat!!!!! He called himself the dark angel of death or some BS like that!!! What a freak, luckily the POS is burning in hell!!!

krt400ex
09-15-2006, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by hardkoratvmxr
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Quad18star
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"He shot right at us. And when he shot at us we jumped and ran the other day," said student Ali Hussein.


umm did anyone one else see the name and think of someone else


wow, u r right, but don';t think that they would be related because that kid would be jailed or something likle that by now.

400exchick
09-15-2006, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by shano
We arent really allowed assault rifles in Canada, so guarenteed they we're off the street. And its weird, wouldnt think this would happen in Montreal.. Very gay...

It's the second school shooting in Montreal within the last 20 years. There was another incident back in '89 I believe.. at McGill?? Shooter seperated the girls from the guys and opened fire on the girls.

DieselBoy
09-15-2006, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by bwamos
Banning guns or making permits harder to get only limits the honest citizen. The criminals will still have illegal guns.

I totally disagree with the "making permits harder to get only limits the honest citizen". There's SO many citizens out there with TERRIBLE, roaming tempers. I feel safer when you can't run into a store and buy a gun on your way home from work. Normal, everyday people do some REAL effed up things as it is. We don't need guns running around. Canada has one of lowest crime rates ever thanks to these strict gun laws. It's way, way way to easy for someone to lose their temper and make a huge regret.

And, with these strict laws the access to guns alone will be few and far between. They will still have them, but limited supply will be around.

swampfoxsc
09-16-2006, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by DieselBoy
I totally disagree with the "making permits harder to get only limits the honest citizen". There's SO many citizens out there with TERRIBLE, roaming tempers. I feel safer when you can't run into a store and buy a gun on your way home from work. Normal, everyday people do some REAL effed up things as it is. We don't need guns running around. Canada has one of lowest crime rates ever thanks to these strict gun laws. It's way, way way to easy for someone to lose their temper and make a huge regret.

And, with these strict laws the access to guns alone will be few and far between. They will still have them, but limited supply will be around.

Your post is incorrect in many ways. Obviously you haven't thought this through. Criminals DO NOT care about laws, regardless of how strict they are. Permits mean nothing to those that steal guns or those that buy them off the black market. You have the right idea for a communist country but in the free world gun control has never worked. Canada's failed billion dollar registration scheme should have shown you that. Also, Canada's crime rate went up when stricter gun control measures were implemented, not down.

Approximately 100,000 people die every year in the US from medical malpractice. Doctors are some of the most educated and licensed people on earth yet they are killing far, far more people than inanimate objects like guns!

DieselBoy
09-16-2006, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by swampfoxsc
Your post is incorrect in many ways. Obviously you haven't thought this through. Criminals DO NOT care about laws, regardless of how strict they are. Permits mean nothing to those that steal guns or those that buy them off the black market. You have the right idea for a communist country but in the free world gun control has never worked. Canada's failed billion dollar registration scheme should have shown you that. Also, Canada's crime rate went up when stricter gun control measures were implemented, not down.

Approximately 100,000 people die every year in the US from medical malpractice. Doctors are some of the most educated and licensed people on earth yet they are killing far, far more people than inanimate objects like guns!

i don't agree with the first half at all....

swampfoxsc
09-16-2006, 02:40 PM
I respect your right to disagree however, I am right. Facts back up my opinion. Not emotion, lies or half truths. If you think that criminals give a rip about the law then you could not possibly have spent any time around true criminal elements. Canada's registration is a dismal failure and on the verge of being canned. This shooting happened during a time when Canada had the strictest gun laws it has ever had! Why was that? The answer is that gun laws don't affect the criminal.

Look to Washington, DC as a true testament to the failure of gun control. It has the tightest restrictions on gun ownership in the U.S. yet it has one of the highest rates of gun crime.

Look to Florida for a shining example of how gun owner rights have lowered crime rates dramatically. Also look at the states that have expanded on gun owner rights and their crime rates. They have gone down, not up. Guns in the hands of honest citizens lower crime. That's a FACT.

krt400ex
09-16-2006, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by swampfoxsc
I respect your right to disagree however, I am right. Facts back up my opinion. Not emotion, lies or half truths. If you think that criminals give a rip about the law then you could not possibly have spent any time around true criminal elements. Canada's registration is a dismal failure and on the verge of being canned. This shooting happened during a time when Canada had the strictest gun laws it has ever had! Why was that? The answer is that gun laws don't affect the criminal.

Look to Washington, DC as a true testament to the failure of gun control. It has the tightest restrictions on gun ownership in the U.S. yet it has one of the highest rates of gun crime.

Look to Florida for a shining example of how gun owner rights have lowered crime rates dramatically. Also look at the states that have expanded on gun owner rights and their crime rates. They have gone down, not up. Guns in the hands of honest citizens lower crime. That's a FACT.


i agree. if u give ppl the opportunity to own guns, then the criminals won't be the only ones with them. that would mean that the criminals would have to be careful about who the choose as their victim because ppl could defend themselves. there is a balance that is brought.

blholtz
09-16-2006, 08:07 PM
If this happens in the U.S. lets get torqued out of shape on it, but come on it happened in the coward country of canada, not to mention the overly cowardice French version.

Let them rot, that bunch of crap to our north is more of a problem with the infiltration of these terrorist into this country than our southern border.

I for one do not feel sorry for these people at all. Look at us and think we are overly aggresive about the terrorists, but let them taste the crap on there own.

Close the northern border and let the hanger on's screw off.

bulkdriverlp
09-16-2006, 08:15 PM
the less the gun laws, crime does go down. people know that a lot more are carrying and wont cause trouble. i think texas has a low crime rate but have lenient gun laws.??

09-16-2006, 08:28 PM
hahahahahahahahaha i hope all the injured people die

CRich[814]
09-16-2006, 08:29 PM
this retard just posted porn on the open forum 30 seconds ago now this.

09-16-2006, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by 4stroke
hahahahahahahahaha i hope all the injured people die

go kill yourself, dirtbag:mad:

DieselBoy
09-16-2006, 10:51 PM
you dont have to start out a criminal to be a criminal. I hope we continue the use of these strict gun laws so they don't end up in the wrong hands. Anyone caught with an illegal firearm should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. And, the gun used in the shooting was a semi-automatic assault rifle which is HIGHLY illegal. The tighter the gun filtering and laws, the better.

They will still sell illegal firearms, but its that much harder for them. I still don't think you're right. Facts you claim simply do not exist.

And, the quote:


If this happens in the U.S. lets get torqued out of shape on it, but come on it happened in the coward country of canada

- Has to be the lamest, most arrogant self centered thing I've heard in a while. I'm not even going to argue with you. You will be ignored.

09-16-2006, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by blholtz
If this happens in the U.S. lets get torqued out of shape on it, but come on it happened in the coward country of canada, not to mention the overly cowardice French version.

Let them rot, that bunch of crap to our north is more of a problem with the infiltration of these terrorist into this country than our southern border.

I for one do not feel sorry for these people at all. Look at us and think we are overly aggresive about the terrorists, but let them taste the crap on there own.

Close the northern border and let the hanger on's screw off.

Since when did Canada be considered as a coward country? I always thought of coward countries as being the ones who attack another country without any verbal warning. Right now...I'd rather live in Canada than the U.S. because I'd feel safer. I hope someone other than myself opens up your eyes or else in you're in for one hell of a surprise.

swampfoxsc
09-17-2006, 05:43 AM
Originally posted by DieselBoy
you dont have to start out a criminal to be a criminal. I hope we continue the use of these strict gun laws so they don't end up in the wrong hands. Anyone caught with an illegal firearm should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. And, the gun used in the shooting was a semi-automatic assault rifle which is HIGHLY illegal. The tighter the gun filtering and laws, the better.

They will still sell illegal firearms, but its that much harder for them. I still don't think you're right. Facts you claim simply do not exist.




You can't see the forest for the trees can you?!!! This shooting happened at a time when Canada has the strictest gun laws it's ever had. The shooter used a gun you claim is highly illegal. Then you turn right around and say the tighter the laws the better! You can't see the extreme inconsistency in those statements? Let me break it down for you.......the strict gun laws you favor DID NOTHING TO STOP THIS SHOOTING! What's so hard to understnad about that?

As for you saying the facts I claim simply do not exist, do a little research. Everything I said is based on facts, not opinion like your statements. The Canadian gun registrationact failed miserably and is on the verge of being thrown out. FACT, like it or not. Crime rates in states with concealed carry laws and laws favoring gun owner rights have lower crime rates than states with strict gun laws. FACT, look it up.

Historically, those that favor gun control have to lie, distort and misdirect the truth in order to try and persuade others they are right. They do that because facts and history have proven them wrong. Remember this, EVERY tyrannical government that has practiced gencide has disarmed it's citizens first. Africans in the Sudan are being hacked up with machetes and murdered in tribal warfare right now with no way to protect themselves because the U.N. disarmed them to make them "safer"!

DieselBoy
09-17-2006, 09:02 AM
Sorry. I'm not convinced of your theory. This is not the first shooting in Quebec, another one happened 20 years ago. You can't sit there and tell me because of the strict gun laws that the crime rate is higher, because that's total BS. Robble.

Canada has always had an extremely low crime rate that fluctuates thanks to all the nutbars, I hope it says low, too.

The US I believe has one of the highest, if not the highest...

And about the illegal firearms...the strict gun laws dont directly aim at those, but they keep the guns away from potential criminals, and the answer to stalling the illegal firearms situation is a tough one. You can still own a gun, but you must pass several tests to make sure your not frigged in the head, and I don't see anything wrong with that. And if you do want a gun your not going to give up because of a couple tests. If you were going home to shoot your wife, you might get frustrated and give up.

We've all got our opinions....

swampfoxsc
09-17-2006, 10:08 AM
Not a theory, FACT as has been shown by history. You're just refusing to see it but it's there. A crime rate isn't based on the availability of guns. Guns don't cause crime. Crime has occurred when all we had was sticks and stones. Husbands also murder wives with baseball bats and knives. It's a verifiable FACT that crime rates are lower in states that have passed concealed carry laws. Why do you continue to dispute FACTS that you can verify yourself?

Canada's low crime rate is due to socio-economic and cultural reasons compared to the U.S. just as many other countries. Explain Switzerland's almost non-existent crime rate with a government provided fully-automatic military machine gun and ammo in the personal possession of every adult male in the country! I can explain it for you. Guns in the hands of honest citizens deter crime and gun laws only apply to the honest citizen.