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elbine69
08-30-2006, 10:17 AM
Yah so I bought this steering stem to replace my stock bent stem. I went to put it in and the mount for the tie rod end hits the steering stop on the frame before its even close to being in the bearing. The only thing I can think of is that it is only for aftermarket frames. So does anyone know what kind it is and what its for? Heres some pictures comparing it to the stock stem and some of how it doesnt fit(sorry there a little blurry).
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e104/elbine69/100_0699.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e104/elbine69/100_0697.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e104/elbine69/102_0691.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e104/elbine69/100_0701.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e104/elbine69/100_0704.jpg

koh0001
08-30-2006, 10:29 AM
Looks to me like someone ripped you off.. I'd sent it back and get my $$$ back!! 1st..That stem is missing the rest of the shaft. there is no place to screw the nut on the bottom of the frame. 2nd It's not for a 250R. The shaft at the top is the wrong size, It lets the stem go too far into the bearing. It doesn't matter which 250R frame..stock or aftermarket, The stems not right. Good luck.

elbine69
08-30-2006, 12:58 PM
Well I am getting my money back. I know its for a 250r since the guy I bought it from races 250r's nationally. And instead of the nut on the bottom theres a bolt that goes in it. I just wanted to find out what it is since nobody knows what kind it is.

Rich250RRacer
08-30-2006, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by elbine69
Well I am getting my money back. I know its for a 250r since the guy I bought it from races 250r's nationally. And instead of the nut on the bottom theres a bolt that goes in it. I just wanted to find out what it is since nobody knows what kind it is.

Pro-Trax maybe......

esr250r86
08-30-2006, 02:00 PM
It is a Burgard steering stem, I bought one just like it and had the same problem. Just get a grinder and grind the bottom part were it is hitting. Keep grinding it until it clears it. You will have to keep putting it on to make sure it doesnt hit and if it still does keep grinding. But dont grind too much. Mine just required a very small bit of grinding. The bottom uses a bolt instead of the old nut.:)

86 Quad R
08-30-2006, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by esr250r86
It is a Burgard steering stem, I bought one just like it and had the same problem. Just get a grinder and grind the bottom part were it is hitting. Keep grinding it until it clears it. You will have to keep putting it on to make sure it doesnt hit and if it still does keep grinding. But dont grind too much. Mine just required a very small bit of grinding. The bottom uses a bolt instead of the old nut.:)


are you saying to grind down the top of the frame's bump stop or to grind down the bottom of stem while trial fitting?

esr250r86
08-30-2006, 02:18 PM
Well, I was saying to grind down the part were the tierods mount were it is hitting the frame. But like you said you could also grind down the bump stop on the frame. I did it the first way I stated and it is holding up really good.

atvmxr
08-30-2006, 02:43 PM
my burgard doesnt look like that, but it did have a bolt on the bottom instead of a nut

elbine69
08-30-2006, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by esr250r86
It is a Burgard steering stem, I bought one just like it and had the same problem. Just get a grinder and grind the bottom part were it is hitting. Keep grinding it until it clears it. You will have to keep putting it on to make sure it doesnt hit and if it still does keep grinding. But dont grind too much. Mine just required a very small bit of grinding. The bottom uses a bolt instead of the old nut.:)

If I ground on it where the tie rods mount the mount would be cut off and have to be moved up to fit properly. And Id rather not grind on the frame. Thanks for the input tho.

86 Quad R
09-05-2006, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by elbine69
If I ground on it where the tie rods mount the mount would be cut off and have to be moved up to fit properly. And Id rather not grind on the frame. Thanks for the input tho.

good choice. :) no need in modding a frame to accept a stem. :rolleyes: best to get a stem for the frame. :cool:

C-LEIGH RACING
09-05-2006, 08:09 AM
Call Burgard, somethings got to be missing, a spacer , a bolt or washers.
Probably whats missing is a steering stop piece that slides over the bottom & is held in place with those two bolts on the side & then a type of shoulder bolt to hold everything in place through the bearing.
Why would somebody build something that you had to grind on the frame to make it fit.
Neil

MossboysRacing
09-05-2006, 11:32 AM
I have a burguard +1 anti-vibe, and it has a nut on bottom. It bolted in just like a stock stem would, fits perfect

deathman53
09-05-2006, 06:16 PM
I have a houseir one on one bike and some other on another, both have bolts to hold it in, not a nut like a stock one.

addictedtomud
09-06-2006, 08:43 PM
elbine69 - you seem to have a Roll Design Lobo steering stem designed specifically for the narrow-framed Lobo chassis. Which means it will NOT fit your stock frame! Take a look at my pics and judge for yourself...

Kyle

addictedtomud
09-06-2006, 08:47 PM
Do not grind on that stem or you will ruin it!! It will never fit a stock frame, no matter what you do to it.
Kyle

addictedtomud
09-06-2006, 08:49 PM
One more pic so you can see the LOBO mounting system for it on the frame...
Kyle

elbine69
09-07-2006, 09:17 AM
Awesome thanks for the info and the pics.

A A R O N
09-07-2006, 10:26 AM
Looks like he killed that one lol.


Anyway, If you're interested, I've got a houser stem that I know will fit a stock frame:p

$110 shipped. In like new shape....just pc rubbed off where it's clamped on to the top.