700R or YFZ450?

[BillyBob]

In all honest opinions which is a faster quad if you were going to race so both quads are topped out which one is faster?

i would have to say that i think the 700R would go faster but my buddy thinks the YFZ450 would rape the 700R!

[freakystone]

Ive had both. It is real close. Depends on modifications. Depends on what you consider fast. Put them both on a track and the YFZ wins. Put them in tight trails with occasional mud, loose dirt or tight turns that require slowing way down and the 700R wins because of brute low end. It takes a bit longer for the YFZ to get going but once it does, it is right there with a 700R. They are both exceptional quads designed for totally different types of riding.

It is kind of like asking what is better, a Porsche Cayenne Turbo or a Porsche Caymen... 0-60 they are both about equal. Put them on a winding road and the Caymen wins. Put them on sone light but off road terrain and the Cayenne wins. Get it?

Quite frankly, the constant comparisions are silly. Dont buy a quad based on accelleration or top end. Buy a quad based on how and where you will ride it. There is no perfect quad yet. The perfect quad would be one that has the following:

- The light weight of the YFZ.
- The handling of the YFZ.
- Reverse.
- The low end of the 700R.
- The high rev of the YFZ.
- The comfort of the 700R.
- Fuel injection.

As for those of you that say the 700R handles like a YFZ, you are on crack. It is not even close.

[250r4life]

im thinking more along the lines of

-light weight of the 250r
-handling of the 250r
-suspesion of top of the line elkas or works or whatever...
-bottom end of raptor
-top end of banshee...
electric start...
possibly reverse but i could go without it...
i could definately go without the FI

[scremnbnshee350]

i think you should go with the 700r...im not saying anything is bad with the 450, i just think the 450 is more of a race quad, and the 700r is more of a trail quadin my opinion

[beastlyone]

i agree with the guy above, 700r is just the trail quad that you COULD race, the yfz is MX nd straight racing, low center of gravity, light weight, all racing.

700 is 4 to 5 mph faster topped out.stock!

[TravEX]

Originally posted by 700YELLOWRAPTOR
700 is 4 to 5 mph faster topped out.stock!

So, you're saying the 700R will do about 80?!

Let's see what freakystone says, he has both.

Freakystone, what's the topspeed like on both?

[700bRad]

I have both 2006 bikes. And both are bone stock. The 700r has alot more torque, its hugely noticible. Especially in the woods. I have alot easier time finding the right gear in woods with the 700. When im on the YFZ I find myself switching between 2nd and 3rd alot. In a straight line the 700 will walk on the YFZ when it reaches 3rd gear. Here is my proof.


http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j207/YFZbrad/Picture049.jpg

[TravEX]

Compliments of Speedbump from 3wheelerworld.com

Cool video. I'm not trying to start anything.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ud_uI2hIsE4

[freakystone]

Um, I've had both too... :D

[freakystone]

Let me follow up by saying this...

I use to race (a long time ago) but with age and kids and what not, I just dont feel the need to throw myself and a 400 pound quad over the same jumps I use to. Now, me and my buds just trail ride. Sure, we get stupid but trail 99% of the time.

I have taken both the 450 and the 700 to Hatfield at different times and although I miss the handling of the YFZ, the 700 is much more suited.

Taking the 700 back next month to H/C is anyone is interested. We have a huge placed rented that sleeps 12 but only 5 of us are going. Lemme know.

[roc64]

Originally posted by TravEX
Compliments of Speedbump from 3wheelerworld.com

Cool video. I'm not trying to start anything.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ud_uI2hIsE4 Nice try! You can clearly see the yfz got traction and the Raptor was getting a ton of wheel spin.

[Bigun55]

Well not trying to start anything BUT... Now peaple say the YFZ or the 450ER is faster it really depends on who has what.... But now i have seen a 450er outrun two differnt 700 raptors. And they was racing on highway so it didnt have nothing to do with not gettin took off good. The 450ER jumped out the hole alot more than the raptors did and on top end he outrun the 700Rapor by about two lenghths. I mean it wouldnt alot but it was still the winner.

[250r4life]

Originally posted by Bigun55
Well not trying to start anything BUT... Now peaple say the YFZ or the 450ER is faster it really depends on who has what.... But now i have seen a 450er outrun two differnt 700 raptors. And they was racing on highway so it didnt have nothing to do with not gettin took off good. The 450ER jumped out the hole alot more than the raptors did and on top end he outrun the 700Rapor by about two lenghths. I mean it wouldnt alot but it was still the winner.


i think i would have understood it better if it was in russian

[rap700]

the 450 are set up for racing and inless you want to put alot of money in one for trail riding than get the raptor. Its alot more suitable for the woods. And as far as what can outrun what thats bull****. These are 2 diffrent bikes made for 2 diffrent things. You aint going to be riding 5th all the time in tight woods and shouldnt be racing up the roads either thats what gives atvs bad names not to mention racing on the road is plan stupid. Sorry if I made anyone mad just geting tierd of all the post of witch is faster 450 or 700 like I said they are made for 2 diffrent things. Racing just aint speed its being smart and consistant and not making mistakes. That wins races

[roc64]

I also find it hard to believe the 450 took the Raptor out of the hole, it cant even come close to the torque of the 700. You think we just fell off a Turnip truck or something? Nice try!!!!!!

[TravEX]

Originally posted by roc64
You think we just fell off a Turnip truck or something? Nice try!!!!!!

Calm down. I wasn't TRYING anything! As everyone knows, and you should too, the rider's skill makes the quad. I'm sure if the riders in the video switched quads, the results would be the same rider up front.

Get a video of you smokin a YFZ and post it up!

[MaxxRPM]

Originally posted by Bigun55
Well not trying to start anything BUT... Now peaple say the YFZ or the 450ER is faster it really depends on who has what.... But now i have seen a 450er outrun two differnt 700 raptors. And they was racing on highway so it didnt have nothing to do with not gettin took off good. The 450ER jumped out the hole alot more than the raptors did and on top end he outrun the 700Rapor by about two lenghths. I mean it wouldnt alot but it was still the winner.

I don't doubt you've seen this race. Both of these quads are fast and most of the time will depend on the rider.
I've had the exact same race myself but it was my 700 against 2 06 450Rs. We were all piped. We race about 10 times and my 700 beat both every time. We even swapped quads with same results. People will think I made this up just to combat your post but atleast "I" know what happened that day.......;)

[700bRad]

I dont care what yall say. Alls I know is my 700r will walk my YFZ in a drag and on the trail. Nuff said. Dont get me wrong, I love the YFZ, just telling the straight up honest truth.

[450rJam]

the 700 is a beast and its a real torque monster. but there is more to a race than torque.........
my 450r beats my buddies piped 700 about every time
(he has got me a few times, mostly if I lift to get the front down)
I almost always get him off the line (remember the 700 is almost 400 lbs)
the 700 would be the choice for trails/woods/and rec. riding
its not the best at one thing its just really good at everything
its like the others are saying
apples-apples
oranges-oranges

[rap700]

I agree with you. You just said it all. The raptor aint made to do what the 450s do and is great for what its made for trails, woods, rec. If you dont race and aint an expert rider the 450 aint for you.

[NVMYRC]

I think the guy was saying at Top End Speed the 450's were faster. I have a 700r with the three basic mods and a 15t counter and I have a hard time running down a stock trx450r. Now I weigh 240 and he weighs 175 and that definitely is a factor but the bike does have a good top end. But if it is a drag race I leave him waaaayyyy behind. I really have to sandbag a lot so he can stay up until we hit top end. I have no doubt that when he pipes and jets his bike his top end will surpass mine until I unhook the rev limiter. We even switched bikes and then it was very apparent that our weight differences made a huge difference. He caught and passed me very quickly.

Craig,

[Bigun55]

Well sence all this is is a big fight i might as well add fuel to the fire, Allright i watched a piped, jetted, cam, 700 Raptor Race a Camed piped jetted YFZ the YFZ outrun the raptor by 10-15 quad lenghts. I know good and well you all think im just B.S. ing but i aint with no bad luck im gonna get it on video and put it on her e.

[450rJam]

yeah ok and I can show the video of my wife outrunning my 450r on her 250ex...............
videos are great but unless your there its hard to tell if someone is 3/4 throttle or rider skill level etc.
most of the people on these sites have a pretty good idea of what will take what but they will also say the rider makes a big difference.
Im not trying to start a argument im just saying
video is better than typed hype

[Bigun55]

man i dont make up stuff. Im tellin you what i saw. Ill get the video of it as soon as i can. It could of been rider difference i dont know.

[roc64]

you cant jet a 700! It may be true what you say, but it was either a missed gear or improperly set up 700. Everyone knows stock to stock and mod to mod the Raptor wins!

[Honda400exrox]

Originally posted by Bigun55
Well not trying to start anything BUT... Now peaple say the YFZ or the 450ER is faster it really depends on who has what.... But now i have seen a 450er outrun two differnt 700 raptors. And they was racing on highway so it didnt have nothing to do with not gettin took off good. The 450ER jumped out the hole alot more than the raptors did and on top end he outrun the 700Rapor by about two lenghths. I mean it wouldnt alot but it was still the winner.

How long was this race?:huh

my friend has a 06 rappy 700, and this other kid has a 06 450er, they raced a from stop sign to stop sign, on a paved road, the 700 beat him by about 4 quad lengths, then we did 5 hydro pole race, the rappy still won, so those to kids on the raptors must have been water heads

[450rJam]

the 700rappy,the 450r, lt450,and yfz 450 are all pretty close.
close enough that the winner will be the one with the better start.
depending on mods, if these 4 where lined up stock vs stock they would most likely trade wins back and forth with equal riders.
the drag strip where I ride has 2 lines better than everywhere else. and one is better than the other, so the rider and the line is as important as the atv when they are this close on quickness.
start adding power options and some respond better than others, then you can argue $ for $ gains.

also the terrain you race on makes a diff.
the yfz and lt like revs, where the 700 and 450r pull hard low.

[Bigun55]

Allright now it was for sure the rider differnece on the race i watched. I watched a differnt guy with a 700 raptor race a 450er today and the farther they went the farther the rapor pulled ahead. The raptor has a DMC pipe and the 450er has a k&N and the baffle removed.


and then that boy raced the same raptor that he outrun by 4 quadlenghts and outrun him the same again. I belive that that raptor must have something wrong with it. so i agree with you all now. the raptor is badder.



sorry that probably didnt make any sence its late tonight. lol

[big700r]

ok i dont know if the 450 is faster than the 700r cause i havent draged one yet ive draged a 450er and beat it so if the yfz can beat the 700 than it shows what 450 is better not trying to start anything but just saying my 3 cents

[roc64]

Originally posted by big700r
ok i dont know if the 450 is faster than the 700r cause i havent draged one yet ive draged a 450er and beat it so if the yfz can beat the 700 than it shows what 450 is better not trying to start anything but just saying my 3 cents

Duh... that makes no sense. Have another drink!:huh :confused:

[250r4life]

Originally posted by roc64
Everyone knows stock to stock and mod to mod the Raptor wins!

not everyone...

im not sure if ya'll are referring to payment, or dirt, or sand.... on the flats or up the hill...

but my experiance on the sand, both on the flats and up the hill, is that the yfz 450 is the fastest both on the flats and up the hill when all bikes are piped and jetted (EFI)... and that is out of the 3 450s and the raptor 700...

and by the way- you'll notice that i ride a 250r, so i would have no reason to skew my post towards any bike in particular...

[450rJam]

Im on the dirt alot more than the sand.
the results are close
usually the 450r by a nose then yfz,ltr,700.
in that order.
like I said usually.........a bad start or a really good hook up out of
the hole will change the outcome.
there is a 660 raptor that rides here that is right in my back pocket vertually every race. (he has some pretty good port work with bolt-ons)

[roc64]

Ya, sure!

[450rJam]

ya, sure ?
sound like a valley girl lol j/k
im sure your raptor is a freak that will waste a jet fighter in a air it out contest

[700bRad]

Take it from a man that owns both the 06 YFZ450 and 06 700 rappy. Both are bone stock. The 700 will pull on the YFZ in dirt, and hillclimbs. This is not an opinion, it is a FACT, end of story. 700 is faster. I still love my YFZ to though :D Just would rather throw a leg over my raptor :ermm:

[450rJam]

you getting the hrc on the 07?

[250r4life]

Originally posted by 700bRad
Take it from a man that owns both the 06 YFZ450 and 06 700 rappy. Both are bone stock. The 700 will pull on the YFZ in dirt, and hillclimbs. This is not an opinion, it is a FACT, end of story. 700 is faster. I still love my YFZ to though :D Just would rather throw a leg over my raptor :ermm:

i dont care to argue about that as i do not know and it is irrelevant...

if i was to get a yfz, even if i did not want to put money into it, i could make it considerably faster by removing the baffle, airbox lid, and rejetting it...

who leaves it 100% stock?

[700bRad]

Originally posted by 250r4life
i dont care to argue about that as i do not know and it is irrelevant...

if i was to get a yfz, even if i did not want to put money into it, i could make it considerably faster by removing the baffle, airbox lid, and rejetting it...

who leaves it 100% stock?

So far ive left my Yami's stock. Will probably start modding them soon though :D . As for arguing about which one is fastest, im not trying to provoke something. I just stated my experience with both bikes, which is far more then you have with either. And yes the dealer is going to throw on an hrc kit before I take it home.

[250r4life]

Originally posted by 700bRad
I just stated my experience with both bikes, which is far more then you have with either.

how do you have any F-ing idea how much experience i have with either of the bikes? or with any bike for that matter?

youre a dumb 20 year old kid, and bring either of your 450s or your 700 and i will hand you your *** at the hill... and i'll do it on my R or my buddies yfz... you choose...

[700bRad]

Originally posted by 250r4life
how do you have any F-ing idea how much experience i have with either of the bikes? or with any bike for that matter?

youre a dumb 20 year old kid, and bring either of your 450s or your 700 and i will hand you your *** at the hill... and i'll do it on my R or my buddies yfz... you choose...

Wow dude. You really need to get layed.....

[450rJam]

get a video of it...........................someone will eat crow.

[250r4life]

so my buddy and i went down to the dunes this weekend for our 1st trip of the year... he has an 06 raptor, with full HMF, the fuel controller, a pro design K&N with the lid off, and supposedly had it dyno tuned and it dynoed at 55hp...

he was talking a bit of smack on the way down, not too bad, and so of course we spent a lot of time at the hill...

the whoops were pretty small, and so that minimalized rider advantage... i hate to tell ya'll, but i didnt lose a race to him. there were times that i wasnt spot on in my launch and shifts, and he would be a little ahead of me though the whoops, and i would pull him on the hill. if i was ahead, i would pull away on the way up the hill... if i was spot on on my launch and ****s, i was ahead 3 to 4 bike lengths by the top of the hill...

we raced eachother and a number of other bikes a good 50+ times... i must say that i got on his machine for a bit, and i will admit i was impressed. its a great bike, has some good suspension, and pulls pretty dang hard. i was pulling the hill in 4th no problem... it is a good bike i will admit. however i still dont think it will smoke a yfz with comparable mods. we'll see in a couple weeks when my big group goes down, and my buddy with the 06 yfz is there as well...

[XCRacer236]

WHY THE HELL IS EVERYONE FIGHTING ABOUT THIS????!!!!! THE 700 IS A TRAIL QUAD, I REAPEAT TRAIL QUAD! DUH IT'S NOT GONNA BE UP TO THE STANDARDS OF THE 450 IN ERGO'S, AND HANDLING. YES IT IS THE BEST HANDLING SPORT QUAD EVER, BUT STILL. THE 450 IS A RACE BRED MACHINE, PERIOD.

[450rJam]

best handleing sport quad ever? maybe not

[roc64]

Originally posted by CaseDawg350
WHY THE HELL IS EVERYONE FIGHTING ABOUT THIS????!!!!! THE 700 IS A TRAIL QUAD, I REAPEAT TRAIL QUAD! DUH IT'S NOT GONNA BE UP TO THE STANDARDS OF THE 450 IN ERGO'S, AND HANDLING. YES IT IS THE BEST HANDLING SPORT QUAD EVER, BUT STILL. THE 450 IS A RACE BRED MACHINE, PERIOD. You're an idiot!!!! 700 is not a trail Quad! Did you come up with that wisdome in all of your fourteen years of life. Do some research! Moron!!!

[450rJam]

I thought it was a trail quad also.............

low end grunt/reverse/electric start/ etc.(all make great trail atv)

its a good all around quad but its not a racer
its not a starter atv
its got good power for dunes but not alot of rpms for tire speed

what did you think the 700 was for ?

Im not trying to be an arse, Im just wondering if I have been thinking wrong.

[blueyeace1]

i have a Raptor 660 and 3 of my buddies have the yfz450 and 2 have the 450r...we trail ride and hillclimb and mudding we also race on open wide trails and none of the 450.s could top me out in a long run...The 450,s are best for track racing and the Raptors are great for trail ridding over all..and all the 450,s where not all stock but my Raptor is ..now i did try a few times for fun to race against a yfz450 on a track and it kick my butt easy...lol...what you all want a track racer or a all around Quad ? I also had a 450r and got rid of it i didnt like it for trail ridding so i got a Raptor and i love it for the trails and play times.This is just all my oppion and past exp. with them all.

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Originally posted by CaseDawg350
WHY THE HELL IS EVERYONE FIGHTING ABOUT THIS????!!!!! THE 700 IS A TRAIL QUAD, I REAPEAT TRAIL QUAD! DUH IT'S NOT GONNA BE UP TO THE STANDARDS OF THE 450 IN ERGO'S, AND HANDLING. YES IT IS THE BEST HANDLING SPORT QUAD EVER, BUT STILL. THE 450 IS A RACE BRED MACHINE, PERIOD...........................The 700 is not a race quad, can you race it ,can you turn into a great race quad YES.Is it the best dam sport/trail quad out there i say YES.I love my 700 but if i was going to race i would have got the yfz 450.

[roc64]

I stand corrected! All good points, and appoligize for my smartass comment to the young fellow! Was having a bad morning and ran my mouth!

:p we still love ya--you ride a rap.:muscle:

[Bigun55]

I always thought the 700 was a trail quad to. They way ive always heard is the 450 is the race quad and the 700 is the trail.And i rode a 700 through the woods last weekend and it does seem like its a trail quad. On my YFZ through the woods im always having to find gears.


And we raced them on the open road 5 times.... i dont know about the 700 raptor winning a drag race...


Here is were all of the aruguing is goin to start again.

[CHEVYZ]

They have potential, but like anything else it takes a little bit of work. I raced on of my buddies about 2 weeks ago and put him to shame. Haven't seen him around since.

On the other hand, one of the guys I ride with occasionally has a bad *** 700 drag bike that is nothing short of incredible! 450s beware LOL.

[Bigun55]

Now the 700 raptor aint a pushover. There is 2 in less than a mile from me 1 of them is stock.(the one i raced and rode) and there is another 1 that has some stuff done to it. I'm not sure what all it has got done to it but its bad. No joke he SMOKED my buddys 450ER. i aint lined up with him yet. I aint been outrun yet and im about 99.9% sure he will outrun me:blah: