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450rJam
01-20-2007, 04:27 PM
top end is not a good judge of power/torque/acceleration.
with a 20 dollar gear joe schmoe can run 90mph.

im talking 300' drag.

top speed is the "NO SKILL" persons way to race.

krt400ex
01-20-2007, 07:01 PM
didn't i say acceleration too? yes...and i also said STOCK...not with sprocket changes

oldskoolex400
01-20-2007, 07:13 PM
didn't i say acceleration too? yes...and i also said STOCK...not with sprocket changes

this coming from the guy that said a cr125 will beat any piped 450 :rolleyes:

krt400ex
01-20-2007, 07:22 PM
that is not what i said. i said that it could keep up with a piped 450, and beat a stocker...you wouldn't believe me until you rode the bike. it was unbelieveable

outlaw450r
01-20-2007, 08:49 PM
I think the phrase under you name says it all.

250r4life
01-21-2007, 12:06 AM
first, whoever said that a banshee is quicker than a yz 250 is, well, i guess to put it delicately, due to such statements i will not put stock in any of his future statements...

second, yes, a stock 450 is faster than a stock banshee....

i was down at gordons well this morning, and put a hurting on a couple banshees.. one had t5s and clamp on K&Ns, the other paul turner pipes... not sure what else, but i cleaned house...

of course there was also a 450r that had a full sparks system, and he probably lined up next to me dang near 30 times, and got beat every single time... he was a persistant little bugger... i will say that our position would remain the same up the hill- meaning that he didnt catch me and i didnt pull away from him, so usually the distance i was ahead coming through the whoops, which was usually about 2.5 bike lengths, remained the same for the rest of the hill...

i know thats gotta piss a lot of people off pretty bad- losing to a stock piped yfz...

450rJam
01-21-2007, 03:27 AM
stock piped yfz can be very respectable with the right rider.

in the same instance, a guy with limited skills may be beat by a
cr125 (really limited skills)

krt400ex
01-21-2007, 06:31 AM
Originally posted by outlaw450r
I think the phrase under you name says it all.



tell me then

Quadboy14
01-21-2007, 10:40 AM
This is the dumbest thread ever..... I'm gonna just sum the whole thing up rite here and now! My stock blaster could kick all your butts! :D And if you don't like that, I'll pretend that I have a banshee that CAN kick all of you! ....Oh and I might start a thread soon called "kawasaki sucks" and see if I can beat this guys comment record....LOL

krt400ex
01-21-2007, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by Quadboy14
This is the dumbest thread ever..... I'm gonna just sum the whole thing up rite here and now! My stock blaster could kick all your butts! :D And if you don't like that, I'll pretend that I have a banshee that CAN kick all of you! ....Oh and I might start a thread soon called "kawasaki sucks" and see if I can beat this guys comment record....LOL


great idea...start the thread!

oldskoolex400
01-21-2007, 12:00 PM
welp if you did that and made another unless thread i would get my kx500 out and beat all your honda's and yamahas

Ruby Soho
01-21-2007, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by 450rJam
dead serious, it takes some porting/reeds/cool heads/etc to make a banshee fast.

my buddy has a banshee with pipes and filters and he also has a bone stock 700rappy. the rappy wins
(same raptor I smoked at the dunes so bad there was only one race)

yes rider can help.

i meant are you kidding about the shee being discontinued because of the 450's being faster

Quadboy14
01-21-2007, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by oldskoolex400
welp if you did that and made another unless thread i would get my kx500 out and beat all your honda's and yamahas

I'm just kiddin, I like my kawi's as much as the next guy. And I'm not gonna try an touch your kx500 (I love those things... :eek2: )

450rJam
01-21-2007, 07:25 PM
the banshee hasnt changed much since day one.

its old tech. the aftermarket companies are the ones making money off the banshee, im sure sales have dropped alot after the 700rappy and yfz have become hits. and the 700 or the yfz will eat a stock banshee, so its a combo of it all

the 4 strokes are coming on strong, the banshee was made for so long there will be plenty of them around for a long time.

wonder how long the blaster will live after this ?
will yamaha plant seeds for a beginner 4 stroke (ltz250/trx250ex)

oldskoolex400
01-21-2007, 08:54 PM
they need to put a yz250f motor in a decent set of chassis

krt400ex
01-22-2007, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by oldskoolex400
they need to put a yz250f motor in a decent set of chassis


i agree

DOHC
01-30-2007, 12:55 PM
wow how stupid is this. Clearly u know absolutly nothing about quads, the banshee is a great quad but its nothing special. The banshee is only good in open areas where a 400ex, 250r, 450r would all beat a banshee in the woods. Yamaha, Honda, Kawi, Suzuki,Polaris,Can Am they all have good quads.

hondarider101
02-04-2007, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by madden
The only fast quad honda ever made was the 250r,with slight mods of course. The 400ex is good for wheelies and going slow,the 450r is just the same with about 10 more HP. Anyone that says an equally moded 450r will beat a Banshee lives in ther own little honda world. And to the guy that said a 400ex will beat a banshee is on crack. A 400ex is not much quicker than a piped Warrior.
Theres my 2cents:macho

u have no idea wat ure talkin about

a honda 90 could beat a shee they cant beat anything

krt400ex
02-04-2007, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by hondarider101
u have no idea wat ure talkin about

a honda 90 could beat a shee they cant beat anything


u don't know any more than he does

02-04-2007, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by madden
The only fast quad honda ever made was the 250r,with slight mods of course. The 400ex is good for wheelies and going slow,the 450r is just the same with about 10 more HP. Anyone that says an equally moded 450r will beat a Banshee lives in ther own little honda world. And to the guy that said a 400ex will beat a banshee is on crack. A 400ex is not much quicker than a piped Warrior.
Theres my 2cents:macho That BC stuff must be going to your head! TO MANY BONG HITS , MAYBE ITS THE 2CYCLE OIL?HONESTLY ARE YOU SERIOUS ? ITS LIKE THE STONE AGE VERSUS NOW. SHAME YOU LIVE IN CANADA LOVE TO SEE THAT HOPPED UP WEEDEATER RUN

broke
02-05-2007, 09:26 AM
I thought this thread had died.

It's hard to compare technology that's over 2 decades old to todays bikes.

But take a Banshee and bring all it's shortcomings up with todays technology. It a very formidable bike on the track and in the woods. I may covert this thing to a woods bike to prove to all the none believers that it can be done and done well.

250r4life
02-05-2007, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by broke
I thought this thread had died.

It's hard to compare technology that's over 2 decades old to todays bikes.

But take a Banshee and bring all it's shortcomings up with todays technology. It a very formidable bike on the track and in the woods. I may covert this thing to a woods bike to prove to all the none believers that it can be done and done well.

a- why try and prove anything to anybody
b- the non beleivers still wont beleive... people beleive what they want
c- of course it can be done- with enough money anything can
d- its true that banshees can rock, and have potential... im not saying either one is better than the other, but it would be ignorant not to recognize that the base 450 is heads and shoulders above the base base banshee...

z400roosteR
02-05-2007, 02:08 PM
I read through the last three or so pages, and this thread is funny stuff. I liked the one that posted a stock 450 will beat a piped shee....LMFAO not even a chance, if they both know how to ride a piped shee even against a piped 450, It's curtains for the 450.

Hey 250r4life...Sweetie!:devil:

450rJam
02-05-2007, 03:14 PM
takes more than a couple pipes to beat the 450r with both same skill riders.

lose the air box and a little porting and its gone.

like the post above says, you will believe what you want.
not many stock banshees to compair to but we have one in our group.

Tater049
02-05-2007, 03:16 PM
450r all the way, even though i own a YFZ. And if it was YFZ vs. 450r, i would take the YFZ. JMO