A-Arms, Shocks, and Swing Arm Question...

[AznxXxStunNa]

Whats up guys. I tried doing a search on a-arms, shocks, swing arm and can't find what I'm looking for.

I have a stock 400ex. I'm starting to get into MX riding(24/7). Now the question.

I know its better to get new a-arms and shocks. Thats what I plan on doing now. I seen companys make standard and long travel a-arms.

Kits i seen for sale.
+2W+0F / +2W+1F / +3W+0F / +3W+1F.

I was wondering which arm kit should I get. Whats the difference between standard and long travel? I'm a big guy(230). I been doing jumps for sometime now and as everybody knows stock can't handle a big guy for jumps.

Also which shock company you guy recomend? OHLINS, ELKA, PEPS, WORKS, ISHOCKS, and etc.

Last 1. Now For the rear swing arm. Should I get a stock lenght or +1 / +2 swing arm.
Please if you guys can help me out on picking out good brands of parts. I don't plan on going cheap on my parts. Sorry for all these noobie questions. Thanks in Advance.

[Pappy]

LT, +3 with 4-1 rims, any of the top brand shocks up front, any top brand rear swing arm stock length and a good axle.


I havent really liked many of the extended swing arms with or without + forward arms, but its personal preference. If you stick to the top brands of components you will end up with the ride your looking for.

There are just so many good choices on the market that one is almost as good as the other these days:p

[krt400ex]

+3+0 long travel arms, elka Elite shocks, LSR +1 swinger, LSR +4 axle.

LSR sells kits with Elka shock and their Arms. i would go withh LSR or Roll Design kit with Elka Elite shocks.

get the +1 swingarm if u intend on doing a bore job on ur bike. otherwise leave it stock. i u bore it, i would recomend the hot rods 460 kit, or the sparks 465 pure power kit. good luck. and send us some pics when ur all done :)

[AznxXxStunNa]

Yeah, I want to bore out my bike. But I'm really looking forwards to doing a crf450 or trx450r hybird on my bike.

[AznxXxStunNa]

I been looking at some companys arms. Which company would you guys use?

http://www.lsracing.com/img/Thumb321.jpg
Lonestar Racing DC-4 Long Travel
The DC-4 A-Arms use longer shocks to allow for more fluid, better valving and improved spring ratios for an overall better ride. They are most effective in racing applications. The A-Arms are +3+0 fully adjustable caster & camber and require 19" long shocks.
$838.80


http://www.houser-racing.com/images/040202th.jpg
Houser Racing Long Travel A-Arms
A-Arms, Long Travel, Honda 400EX, 19.25" Shock, Needle Bearings +3" Wide, +0" Forward Gloss Black.
$950.00

http://www.laegerracing.com/images/LAEPROTRAX.jpg
http://www.laegerracing.com/images/Pro_TraxLeft.jpghttp://www.laegerracing.com/images/Pro_TraxRight.jpg
Laeger Racing Pro-Trax Front End
The Needle & Thrust Bearing around the T-pin minimize rider fatigue due to the fact that the only resistance is the tire on the ground. The Mono Balls on top and bottom allow for bind free wheel travel up to 16".
Laeger's standard length is +3" additional lengths are available.
The complete system includes:
*Upper A-Arms
*Lower A-Arms
*Spindles
*2 Tie Rods with 7/16 heim
*Anti-Vibe Steering Stem
$2,429.00
Is this Laeger kit a long travel?

http://www.amstarmanufacturing.com/sitebuilder/images/DSC00416-150x112.jpghttp://www.amstarmanufacturing.com/sitebuilder/images/MVC-004F2-148x112.jpg
American Star Manufacturing X'treme Long Travel
This NEW X'Treme Travel Racing A-Arm Kit is offers more Real Travel
thank ANY other A-Arm Kit on the market today. It is designed for use with a Long Travel 19 1/4 Inch Zero Preload Shock and has up to 14 1/2 inches of REAL Travel when adjusted correctly. It is Camber, Caster, Ride Height and Leverage adjustable. Kit includes 4 A-Arms, 2 Chromoly Racing Tie Rods, Billet Spacers and 4 Heim Ball Joints (Patent Pending).
$649.95

[krt400ex]

i would go with any of the first 3. i have never heard of American Star Manufacturing, so i can't recommend them.

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by AznxXxStunNa
Yeah, I want to bore out my bike. But I'm really looking forwards to doing a crf450 or trx450r hybird on my bike.


that would be even better. i would go with the crf 450. out of the box those motors r pushing 50 hp, and they have a very even power spread with alot of torgue off the bottom

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by AznxXxStunNa


http://www.laegerracing.com/images/LAEPROTRAX.jpg
http://www.laegerracing.com/images/Pro_TraxLeft.jpghttp://www.laegerracing.com/images/Pro_TraxRight.jpg
Laeger Racing Pro-Trax Front End
The Needle & Thrust Bearing around the T-pin minimize rider fatigue due to the fact that the only resistance is the tire on the ground. The Mono Balls on top and bottom allow for bind free wheel travel up to 16".
Laeger's standard length is +3" additional lengths are available.
The complete system includes:
*Upper A-Arms
*Lower A-Arms
*Spindles
*2 Tie Rods with 7/16 heim
*Anti-Vibe Steering Stem
$2,429.00
Is this Laeger kit a long travel?




yes they r long travel. anything that says that it will give u more travelt han stock is long travel

[400exmkt]

Originally posted by krt400ex
yes they r long travel. anything that says that it will give u more travelt han stock is long travel



Not true you can put on std. travel arms and get more travel than stock.

[Old Head]

that would be even better. i would go with the crf 450. out of the box those motors r pushing 50 hp, and they have a very even power spread with alot of torgue off the bottom

Wouldn't the tranny from a dirt bike motor be alittle weak for a quad?

[LT250RMan]

Originally posted by Old Head


Wouldn't the tranny from a dirt bike motor be alittle weak for a quad?


Why would you think that ? there are so many people with 400ex hybrids with dirt bike engines in them and they dont have any problems with the trannys.

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by LT250RMan
Why would you think that ? there are so many people with 400ex hybrids with dirt bike engines in them and they dont have any problems with the trannys.

x2

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by 400exmkt
Not true you can put on std. travel arms and get more travel than stock.


how would u get more travel out of standard travel arms???

anyway those arms claim 16 in of travel. wouldn't that be considered long travel?? that's almost 2x tha stock trvel

[LT250RMan]

Originally posted by krt400ex
how would u get more travel out of standard travel arms???



You can get more travel using standard travel a-arms by using aftermarket shocks.

Elka claims 10.2'' of travel with stock a-arms and their standard travel shocks and if you use +2 standard travel a-arms with their shocks they claim 11'' of wheel travel for a 400ex.

[krt400ex]

Originally posted by LT250RMan
You can get more travel using standard travel a-arms by using aftermarket shocks.

Elka claims 10.2'' of travel with stock a-arms and their standard travel shocks and if you use +2 standard travel a-arms with their shocks they claim 11'' of wheel travel for a 400ex.


i see what ur saying, but that is also a claim from a manufacturer who wants u to buy his products. just keep that in mind as well

[AznxXxStunNa]

So now i have my arms. (+3+1StdT) Now i looking into getting a new swing arm. What length does it need to be? I have seen LSRacing MX swing arm recommends (+1-1/4). But as i looked at there arms. They don't sell a (+3+1) A-arms. I know the sell the (+3+0LT)(+2+1StdT) So will i need the swing arm a little longer then (+1-1/4), because of my (+3+1) A-arms?:confused:

[oldskoolex400]

that pro-trax set-up is really good if you want to go above and beyond i would go with roll design products if you have the cash get the roll design lobo 2 a-arms get a RPM or LSR axle and a +1 1/4 roll design swingarm then get a elka LT linkage w/ a dual rate rear and quadrate piggy back comp, rebound, ride height adj or you could go with custom axis those 2 shock brands IMO are the best on the market, i forgot about the fox evols they are also very good