stage 3 hot cam

[brandonhtrx450r]

does anyone know anything about the stage 3 hotcam. and what kind of power it produces?

[GPracer2500]

Technically there is no "stage 3" Hotcam. I'm guessing you're refering to the old version of the stage 2 HC. Some retailers still had stock on the old stage 2 when hotcams switched to the new version. Those retailers had to distiguish them somehow so they just made-up a stage 3 designation for the old version of the stage 2. Or, you might be talking about the HC Stroker cam which some people also (erroniously) call "stage 3".

Either way HERE (http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=237131) is how these cams compare to one another as far as specifications. The last item under "notes" is what HCs says about the difference between the old and new Stg 2 versions.

[brandonhtrx450r]

just seen it on ebay.. it says new stg 3 hotcam for like 150.00 new? so i dont know.

[GPracer2500]

Don't buy it without finding out exactly what it is. You don't want to wind up with the wrong cam for your engine. The stroker cam in an otherwise stock engine isn't likely to turn out well....

[cals400ex]

Originally posted by GPracer2500
Technically there is no "stage 3" Hotcam. I'm guessing you're refering to the old version of the stage 2 HC. Some retailers still had stock on the old stage 2 when hotcams switched to the new version. Those retailers had to distiguish them somehow so they just made-up a stage 3 designation for the old version of the stage 2. Or, you might be talking about the HC Stroker cam which some people also (erroniously) call "stage 3".

Either way HERE (http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=237131) is how these cams compare to one another as far as specifications. The last item under "notes" is what HCs says about the difference between the old and new Stg 2 versions.



i have a feeling he is referring to the stage 3 for the 450r. hotcams have a new cam coming out for the 450. i have not heard of any ride reports but a lot of dealers have them coming pretty quick. it is a pretty aggressive cam according to the specs. it isn't recommended for a stock bore bike though....time will tell.

[GPracer2500]

Originally posted by cals400ex
i have a feeling he is referring to the stage 3 for the 450r. hotcams have a new cam coming out for the 450. i have not heard of any ride reports but a lot of dealers have them coming pretty quick. it is a pretty aggressive cam according to the specs. it isn't recommended for a stock bore bike though....time will tell.

Good call. I was assuming 400EX and now I notice his screename suggests he's got a 450r. Whoops.

[1fst400]

either way, good info on cams. It cleered things up in my head.

[brandonhtrx450r]

yeah, i guess it would help if i told u that i had a 450r! i wonder what type of mods would it work best with? all i have done now is high compression piston with hrc cam and full exhaust and filter.. would that be enough or would i have to get more done

[400exrider707]

Either way there was a stage 3 hotcam for the 400ex's. They had a stage 1 and stage 2, but then they came out with a new cam in between those two so the old stage 2 went to the new stage 3, and the new cam became the new stage 2. So technically there are stage 1's, stage 2's(new stage 2), and stage 3's(old stage 2)

[GPracer2500]

In a sense, but I think it's more accurate to call it what it is (the old stage 2)--not make up a new name for it. I've talked to Hotcams about the old stage two and they called it the old stage 2, not a stage 3. They no longer make the old stage 2. The only references to stage 3 that I've ever seen are from retailers' catalogs. Some list the old stage 2 (identifed by it's HC part number 1008-2) as a stage 2 and some call the same number a stage 3. And yet others call the stroker cam a stage 3. It's just confusing unless you call them what they actually are...stg 1, stg 2, old stg 2, and stroker.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it! lol

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by GPracer2500
In a sense, but I think it's more accurate to call it what it is (the old stage 2)--not make up a new name for it. I've talked to Hotcams about the old stage two and they called it the old stage 2, not a stage 3. They no longer make the old stage 2. The only references to stage 3 that I've ever seen are from retailers' catalogs. Some list the old stage 2 (identifed by it's HC part number 1008-2) as a stage 2 and some call the same number a stage 3. And yet others call the stroker cam a stage 3. It's just confusing unless you call them what they actually are...stg 1, stg 2, old stg 2, and stroker.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it! lol Agreed, but in hotcams brochures its listed as stage 3, although if you call and ask they do refer to it as the old stage 2.

[GPracer2500]

Do you know where I could get a Hotcams brochure? I've never seen one beyond what's on their website.

thanks

[stalefish_132]

i bought a cam 2 months ago and i orderd the stg.3 "stoker" cam and XR's only sent me the old stg. 2 cam. on the spec card it is differant thatn the stoker cam.