Ceramic Coating?

[philys21]

Hello, I was wondering if you guys did ceramic coating because I am interested in getting my whole exhaust done in black. On another note what's the easiest way for you to give me a quote on some powdercoating? I have a very long list of parts I'm looking to get done.

Phil

[Pappy]

A full system runs around $95 in black

Post a list of parts and the colors you would like them and I will price them for you.

[philys21]

I'll try and get the list up by tomorrow afternoon. I'm gonna go over the bike and make a list. Whats your turn around time right now? Also whats the heat range for the ceramic coating?

[Pappy]

As long as everything is disassembled and I dont have to tear apart bearings and such, turn around is usually 2 weeks or less.

I believe the heat range is around 1400 degree's.

[philys21]

here is my list for everything I want to be a high gloss black:

frame/ subframe
engine cases
brake lever
shift lever
bumper
front sprocket cover
front brake calipers
rear brake caliper
grab bar
swingarm
axle
sprocket hub
handlebars
light brackets
I have trail tech mr16 lights can they be done?
and some various nut and bolts
there will prolly be more after i start tearing it apart but at least thing can give me a good estimate of the price.

Then for the exhaust I want the header done in black ceramic coating and the canister in black chrome. I have another question about the ceramic coating. When the pipes get hot and u splash threw mud and the nasty will the mud burn onto the coating? I had a jet hot coating do this and it really made it look bad.

Here is a pic of my quad so you get an idea of the bike.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j97/philys21/quad012.jpg

[Pappy]

frame/ subframe $175
engine cases $30 each (little less if they are small)
brake lever $8
shift lever$6
bumper$20
front sprocket cover$10
front brake calipers$20 each
rear brake caliper $20
grab bar $10
swingarm $45 stock $65 aftermarket
axle $40
sprocket hub $10
handlebars $15
light brackets $8-$10 each


There will be no difference between jet coating and other ceramics. The only benefit is when they are done in the chrome color they can be buffed lightly with fine steel wool to make them shine again. I havent had much problem with getting the black clean on our own quads though.

Im not certain on the light housings, if they are metal then i can more then likely do them

[philys21]

do you have a problem with me dropping the stuff off? I'm only about an hour and 1/2 away.

[Pappy]

Absolutley not!People are in and out everyday. Just give me a call before so I make sure I am here 304-754-7609

[philys21]

Alright well that sounds great. It will most likely be on a saturday morning because of my work schedule. Are you guys open then? As soon as I get my exhaust from Dasa I will be tearing the bike apart, so I'm hopeing I can have everything to you by next saturday.

[Pappy]

This and next saturday would be bad:( We will be at the track both weekends. After that though, I am wide open.

Anytime throughout the week is fine, and almost any time is fine. My shop is right here at my house so I am normally always around:p

[philys21]

well i get done work at 5 so maybe we could meet there around 7:30 late next week?

[Pappy]

Sounds fine

[philys21]

Hey Pappy, do you have the means of removing and remounting tires? I want my wheels to get done so If I could get them takin off at ur place it would be easier otherwise i'll take them to a dealer.

[Pappy]

i can have them removed and remounted, i use a local tire store.

[philys21]

How much does your local guy cost per tire? Also do you have a yellow that will match the suzuki's yellow plastics? Finally my last is would you coat safety chains for a trailer?

Also I plan on dropping my stuff ethier wens or thurs. I'll give you a call and let you know. Can I have your full address so I can get directions?

[Pappy]

Ive never done chains, I would imagine some form of plastic dip would be better? i believe it is around $10 a tire.

BK Performance
84 Chase Lane
Hedgesville WV
25427

[philys21]

Hey Pappy, I just tried giving ya a ring but I guess you were out to lunch. Anyway I should be at your place tomorrow between 6 and 7 if thats good with you?

Phil

[philys21]

???

[Pappy]

sounds good!

[Pappy]

Just about finsihed with everything

[Pappy]

I am pretty certain you will like the satin black, it turned out pretty good from what i can see

[Pappy]

I welded the rear linkage mount so you are good to go.

[philys21]

looks great Pappy!!! Do you have any other parts done? I'm really excited to see the exhaust with the black header and black chrome can. How did the lights and wheels work out?

[Pappy]

all the small parts are done, except the caliper, spindles, exhaust and wheels.


shooting for completion this week

[philys21]

alright well pm the bill when you get it figured out. I'm not sure if I will come get the parts it depends on the shipping cost. So when you send me the bill let me kno how much it would cost to ship it.

Thanks
Phil

[Pappy]

heres a few pics before we wrapped them up

[Pappy]

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[Pappy]

Spindles were Molycoated, it holds up better then pc especially if you have to take the front end apart a few times making adjustments.


The lugs were Moly'd also

[philys21]

They look good, the molycoating doesn't mess up the threads on the spindles? Get those wheels and exhaust done! and a coarse the rest of the parts. I wanna see them bad :D

[Pappy]

nope, the moly wont affect fitment

[philys21]

sounds good. I have some more stuff to send you on friday or monday. I know some a arms for sure and maybe the engine cases.

[Pappy]

No problem, just let me know if the parts are to be the same color so i can make sure I have enough on hand

[philys21]

yes def. the same color. When I get my new shocks if I don't go with the evos I'll have to send the springs to you too.

[Pappy]

The EVO's seem to be gaining popularity

[philys21]

The evos are defiantly getting popular but the more people I talk to the more I hear that they're not vavled correctly.

[Pappy]

I havent even checked the tech stuff on them, how are they revalved?

[philys21]

lol you got me, that's just what people have told me. I'll have to check into it, I'll let you kno my findings. Any new pics for me today?

[Pappy]

Nothing new today, the rest of the parts are disassembled so I can now start preping them for the various coatings etc.

[Scro]

Someone told me that the valving was controlled by how much air was put into them. And you have to keep putting air in them to keep the valving correct.

That's just what I heard though, could be totally wrong.

[philys21]

almost done yet?

[Pappy]

Originally posted by philys21
almost done yet?

getting there, just waiting on some more exhausts to arrive so i can do a batch and waiting on more of your parts to return from stripping

[philys21]

alright, whats an estimated time you think all will be done?

[Pappy]

everything should be completed by wednesday or thrusday....thats what im shooting for

[philys21]

sounds good, thanks again Pappy.

[Natertot426ex]

Wow it looks like someone is a little anxious!! lol. I can't wait to see it all put together.

[philys21]

yea I'm pritty anxious, I just wanna ride again! haha But there is still a lot more to be done.

[Pappy]

what all else are you doing?

[philys21]

Well I have a whole new front end coming in the mail which will then be coming to Pappy for a rush paint job, I'm going to get lots of things done in carbon fiber, engine work plus Noss, dyno tunning, want me to keep going?

[Pappy]

hell yeah dude, lay it out. it should be one badazz ltr:D

also check your pm's, i had a few questions for ya

[philys21]

I replied to your message, now give me some new pics!!!

[Pappy]

LOL...

I just prepped the silencer and headpipe, but not sure if i will get them finished this evening. Your rear hubs are cooking now, along with the axle. I should have some more pics up for you tomorow

[philys21]

i'll be waiting :D

[Pappy]

stem, swing arm, bumper and subframe are now completed. i will do my best to get them unplugged and some pics up...


looks like tomorrow i knock out the exhaust and the ceramic & molycoating work and you will be finished.

[Scro]

Originally posted by philys21
I'm going to get lots of things done in carbon fiber

What do you mean by that? I didn't know you get things "done in carbon fiber"...lol

[philys21]

Pappy that sounds geat, I very excited to see everything in person. Do you have a price together yet? I didn't get a chance to get out to my shop today it was just one of those days :rolleyes:

well I guess you don't know everything do ya? maybe u should check out ********

[Pappy]

LOL..I will have sit down and work up the pricing, lots to add up:p

[philys21]

no you got it backwords it's very little to work out. I think it was just a frame and a couple small parts. :)

[Pappy]

stem,bumper and axle

[Pappy]

sub frame and swing arm

[Pappy]

hubs

[Pappy]

exhaust

[philys21]

looks great Pappy! I can't wait to seem them in person. Do you have a total price yet? Oh and I will be at my shop tonight so I will def have an answer for you tonight.

[Pappy]

Are you picking these up here or maybe at breezewood? I need to know so I can add shipping to the total etc. A rough geuss at shipping everything would be easily $150

[Pappy]

Calipers, rear mount, brake hub all molycoated

that iis the last of the parts, now for reassembly etc.