Cody on a Cobra?

[Pappy]

Im kicking around the idea.....

[insaneracin2003]

Cobra?? It must be late cause i cant figure it out...:ermm:

[shano]

I'd say yes if he wants to race under 16, but he wont be at his full potential... In a year he would be able to handle a full race yfz, get him a done up blaster and he would be better. In cmrc races, 13-14 year olds can keep up to me on the mx track with done up blasters.. Cobras are fun lil rich kids who have everything IMO.

[WhiteYFZ]

they seem nice. ive seen them at e town.
does the 70 have gears and a clutch

[400exstud]

Their cool but cost a lot!:ermm:

[Pappy]

Originally posted by shano
I'd say yes if he wants to race under 16, but he wont be at his full potential... In a year he would be able to handle a full race yfz, get him a done up blaster and he would be better. In cmrc races, 13-14 year olds can keep up to me on the mx track with done up blasters.. Cobras are fun lil rich kids who have everything IMO.

I dont believe he needs a tricked out anything :p

[procircuit406ex]

Originally posted by WhiteYFZ
they seem nice. ive seen them at e town.
does the 70 have gears and a clutch

it hink they have 6-speed,manual clutch

[jrspawn]

DO IT!!!!!!!!:D

Those things are some bad little quads man, my buddy was looking at them for his kids, they are alot more powerfull than i had thought at first, and have a great suspension package. From the looks and sounds of how cody has been riding he needs something like the cobra, its built to take it.

Justin

[Pappy]

I wouldnt have had an oppertunity (we arent rich ) but I found a deal on one and my yfz should be sold....

Originally posted by Pappy
I wouldnt have had an oppertunity (we arent rich ) but I found a deal on one and my yfz should be sold.... ooh, i get it now pappy :P

i say go for it

[Pappy]

Im not sure if cody will be too big for it or not, but my other son ryan could easily run it with the auto clutch.

[jrspawn]

Hey pappy, i forget the name off the top of my head, but there was a dealer for the cobras right on the jersey/delaware line almost. And if im not mistaken i think i remember them saying you can get the 90cc top end kit direct from them also. It seemed like there are just set list prices also, they said they're price compared to everyone else is the same, not sure how true that is though.

Justin

[Pappy]

Ive heard that the 90 kits add some punch, but come with added heat. I am pretty sure Fowler is back to the 70 top end in the GNCC's, but maybe for MX it would be ok.

[trx400exxracer]

Originally posted by Pappy
Im not sure if cody will be too big for it or not, but my other son ryan could easily run it with the auto clutch.

i dont think you should take him back to a smaller quad but it would be a good idea to start Ryan out on one Cody is around 11 and wait in a year or two he will have grown alot so i just say keep practicing on the 300ex or build a 250 hybrid like 416exmx did:D

[Pappy]

LOL..cody is now 13, he is just short

Originally posted by Pappy
LOL..cody is now 13, he is just short 13? put him on a 250ex! :)

[jrspawn]

Yeah, watching them things at the nationals is rediculus, those things rip. has cody gotten a chance to sit on one and size it up yet? From the looks it would probably fit almost perfect. Maybe get a little taller stem if anything.

Justin

[trx400exxracer]

Originally posted by Pappy
LOL..cody is now 13, he is just short

how much does he weigh

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Crath
13? put him on a 250ex! :)

Jesus dude, do you not pay attention, this is cody on his 300ex.

[416exmx]

Originally posted by Crath
13? put him on a 250ex! :)

Or my CRF250 quad :D . You know he'd look good on it Ken.

[watts16]

Originally posted by Pappy
Jesus dude, do you not pay attention, this is cody on his 300ex.

LMAO:p I would get it for your younger son. Then build the 300EX up or a CRF250 hybrid for Cody.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by 416exmx
Or my CRF250 quad :D . You know he'd look good on it Ken.

In a heart beat, but unless you want a new 06 yfz in trade, i cant swing it:p

Originally posted by Pappy
Jesus dude, do you not pay attention, this is cody on his 300ex. wait... im confused


then what are you talking about with 70 and clutch being manual or auto and gears and whatever o.0

i think lack of sleep is getting to me :scary:

[416exmx]

Originally posted by Pappy
In a heart beat, but unless you want a new 06 yfz in trade, i cant swing it:p

haha, uhhh cant really say that I need it. Like to have it, but dont need it. What you want for the YFZ isn't too far away from what it'd take to buy mine though.

[Pappy]

cody, check your pm's

[trx400exxracer]

Cody can we see a pic of that thing again that thing was sick

[BSTURDIVANT]

I have rode that quad personally pappy, just to see what the all the talk was about....I wish I had one at that age. Its just not cut out to be a GNCC quad.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by BSTURDIVANT
I have rode that quad personally pappy, just to see what the all the talk was about....I wish I had one at that age. Its just not cut out to be a GNCC quad.

10 -4 on that! i just figured it would help him and me out, and allow cody to still race against kids his age for atleast another year as he grows into the 300ex

[trx400exxracer]

Originally posted by BSTURDIVANT
I have rode that quad personally pappy, just to see what the all the talk was about....I wish I had one at that age. Its just not cut out to be a GNCC quad.

yeah but doesnt Walker Fowler have one set up for gncc

[honduh440]

honestly get him on a full race bike. their are kids over here around kansas oklahoma and texas that are 13-15 and running at local pro level "national B class".

[Pappy]

Originally posted by honduh440
honestly get him on a full race bike. their are kids over here around kansas oklahoma and texas that are 13-15 and running at local pro level "national B class".

age means little, cody is so short that he has trouble seeing over the quad when jumping it:p

[honduh440]

that sucks

[insaneracin2003]

Man i really need to make a Breezewood trip,with or without my quad,i would love to see Cody rip it up. oohhh,and to meet you to ken.lol... I say get that 300ex ready for Cody.before he beats it to death...:chinese:

[Pappy]

Originally posted by insaneracin2003
Man i really need to make a Breezewood trip,with or without my quad,i would love to see Cody rip it up. oohhh,and to meet you to ken.lol... I say get that 300ex ready for Cody.before he beats it to death...:chinese:

he is going to run the wheels off whatever he rides:p

[insaneracin2003]

Originally posted by Pappy
he is going to run the wheels off whatever he rides:p
Darn skippy

[Rootar]

ken i thought you could make up better excuses than that it is all becasue he is short, come on look at tomcat clowers he is nuts and can barely touch teh ground wiht one foot when he leans it way over.

let cody deside, but that 300 does fit him well, the chassis size is jsut right for him. Cody can can tell what he is comfortable with


oh and btw there is an 8 year old that races flat track about an hour from me on a 400ex yes he is 8 ive got a picture on here sum where of the last race, he can barely see over the damn bar pad and stands the whole time, and he beat half the adults there, no lie it took half the race for me to pass him becasue of a bad start.

[Pappy]

LOL..no excuses, just pointing out that he still has some growing to do!


Atleast with the cobra he could still race the races and grow into the 300ex. he is an animal on a mini, he hasnt quite gotton the full size quad down...yet:D

Cody would rip 10x more on a Cobra, those things are ridiculous.:eek2:

[IOWAracer]

Pappy I would get him the Cobra so he can keep racing and let him grow into the 300 as you build it up get that kid on some LT if they make it for 300 and let him rip it up he is gonna be great i wish i had started at his age, he is where i wish i was now im 17 and still trying to get the groove of things on every bike i ride but oh well i would deffently get him one and let him keep racing!!!!


broc

can some one post a pic of a cobra?

[250r4life]

i was at glamis last october, sitting at china wall... this group pulls up of about a dozen people, and in that group there are two brothers- one probably around 8 or 9, and the other probably around 10-11... for sure neither was over 12...

and what were they riding? 05 piped yfzs...

and were they tuned down? not at all... they had problems goign through the whoops real well since they could barely touch the pegs and what not, but after they got past the whoops they would scream up the hill... the part i couldnt beleive is one was riding wheelies up china wall... at first i thought it was an accident, but then he did it several times... it was nuts...

some of these kids are just bad

[procircuit406ex]

here you go bud

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Originally posted by procircuit406ex
here you go bud

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SWEET! thanks

[AZblaster44]

hey pappy check out http://www.westcoastquads.com/ there was an article about these quads in dirt wheels recently... rumor has it they are workin on a 4-stroke manual (4-speed i believe) but even so the 90's rip and arent gonna rape you on price like the cobra:)

either way I'm sure cody will ride it hard and hand it back broken haha:macho

[wvspeedfreak]

If I would have known then what I know now I would have bought Austin a Cobra from the start.As a matter of fact we were looking at them a couple months ago and seriously considered getting him one.

[gbcap]

i think it would be a mistake to move cody back now. he is big enough for a big quad iwould keep him there.

the only way i would move it back to a cobra is so he can race, but i don't think the quad will have enough for what he likes. they will struggle to clear some of the big jumps at breezewood i think. seen these things at budds creek and they struggled at some of the big faces of jumps.

[XCAdam89]

You also have to keep in mind that Cobra's put out for being such a small quad. I think it would be good for him to continue racing, whether he is racing a 300 or a Cobra...

[Scro]

If you do decide to switch, be prepared to break out the wrenches. I am friends with Brandon Tittle, whose son's have won many national races. He is always working on them:ermm:

[Tommy 17]

i wouldn't pappy.. its really not a cobra its an ARENS and you know what happened to me with my parts from him...


i say you keep him on something reliable...

[gibson400ex]

Originally posted by Tommy 17
i wouldn't pappy.. its really not a cobra its an ARENS and you know what happened to me with my parts from him...


i say you keep him on something reliable...


i agree 100%


from what rob tells us ( good friends with him) robbs racing that is

that the cobra's are known to blow, and overheat


BUT


have you checked out extreme's new quad line up?


the have a 70 and 90 setup now

there coming out with a 125 in a couple weeks



but i would just keep him on the 300ex,

or

my walsh 250r/blaster would suit him just fine! its for sale

haha

[gibson400ex]

woops


forgot that we'll most likely be keeping the walsh 250r/blaster and

putting a 250f engine in


but if anything changes and your interested in the bike i'll let you know

[wilkin250r]

I don't know about the extreme quads. They have 3 inches LESS travel in both front and rear.

Now, the specs aren't an end-all determining factor. Kinda like horsepower numbers. But they DO give a good indication. The Cobra minis were just designed to be racers from the start.

As for the topic at hand, Ken, it's a gamble. Have you had a chance to get Cody on one?

I'm stating the obvious, here, but you know that Cody may be due for a growth spurt here real quick. He might easily outgrow that Cobra in short order. But I would imagine it would suit him really well right now. The 90cc kit is probably capable of providing as much punch as a stock 300EX, with much better suspension, and a lighter frame that he could really throw around.

It's perfect, but may not last long if Cody finally starts sprouting. Maybe a year, at most? That's a pretty large investement for just a year.

The determining factor may be Ryan. Does he show the same passion for the sport, is it something that he could use down the road to it's full potential? If the answer is "yes", I say go for it.

[Pappy]

Ryan is as "into it" as cody is, but i havent worked with him on a quad as much, he is more a biker.


Not sure what we will end up doing, but either way we will do something..lol

[MX300ex]

y dosent cody have goggles?

[AtvMxRider]

Kenny I wouldn't do it if I were you. Yes they are fast but Cobras are alot of maintenace. I am so glad to be rid of ours it's not even funny.

[Quad18star]

Pappy ... just go out and buy Cody that 250 that Cody's Custom Quads has for sale . :D Fullsize quad for him to learn to ride , and like Wilkin said , he's bound to grow soon . He can get used to the power of the 250 , then when he finds he needs more , he can swap it out and put a 450 . Kill 2 birds with 1 stone .

or.....you could spend some on the 300ex and get the suspension unpdated to some elka or p.e.p, some a-arms,axle,exhaust...the small things and some nerf-bars...and with nerfs his feet cant come off so easily...he'll have nothing to worry about...hell hes jumping higher than me and im on a semi-mx 440ex.....hes on a near stock 300ex and could whip the pants off me!...haha, that kinda funny, i just admitted that i could get owned by a 13 year-old.....a REALLY GOOD 13 year old......

[Pappy]

The 300 parts are ordered, nerfs are already on, axle is already installed. Arms and suspension is ordered.

Cody may also want to try out a WPSA race, and he still wants to do some MX racing and the Cobra would allow him to do that. As much as I like codys hybrid, I think the 250R frame would be a bit big on him, but it would also be worth the wait for him to grow into. Cody and i are discussing a deal though.

[cletusEX]

I say keep him on the 300ex. He has shown he can handle it and there are a few series' around (Koontz and D-6) that will let him race it. I think with his experience and control that he can gain more from staying on the 300 than going back down. And the Cobra is more of a mx quad and honestly who wants to race mx, xc is where it's at!:eek: :p I also have to agree with Tommy, I'd be skeptical of anything that has Arens attached to it (even though my 416 was sweet). Anyways like you said he will ride the wheels off anything, so I'm sure it won't matter.

[Quad18star]

I'm not sure if you said it and maybe I missed it , but what main style of racing is Cody going to focus on the most ..... MX , XC , TT ???

[Pappy]

A bit of everything. If we do get the cobra it will see mx and tt only, while the 300 would fill the xc roll and then some mx action as i feel comfortable with him racing it on the mx track.

the problem with the 300 right now is for xc he would be so screwed if he got hung up. the grab bar damn near hits him in the chest so lifting it would be out of the question. im not in a rush for him to race it, plenty of time for learning.

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by Pappy
A bit of everything. If we do get the cobra it will see mx and tt only, while the 300 would fill the xc roll and then some mx action as i feel comfortable with him racing it on the mx track.

the problem with the 300 right now is for xc he would be so screwed if he got hung up. the grab bar damn near hits him in the chest so lifting it would be out of the question. im not in a rush for him to race it, plenty of time for learning.

Is he really that short??? It doesn't seem like it from the pictures , but then again , they say pictures can be deceiving !!!

I just think that with a Cobra , he'd outgrow it too fast or find he needs more power out of it ( and probably get bored with it) . But then again , I've never met him or seen him ride , other than the pictures and a couple videos that you've posted .... so I could be totally wrong . :p

[yamablaster24]

Originally posted by Pappy
I dont believe he needs a tricked out anything :p

put him in the youth production class then say that again lol...

the cobras are pimp, 7k but worth it. Its all what hes going to be racing next year. I would honestly do up that 300 and put him in youth production those guys are fast and will make him even faster.

[Pappy]

Greg, he has the honor of being the shortest person he knows:D He is stocky as all get out, but hasnt sprouted yet. He did just have mom measure him and he is up to 4'9" LOL so I reckon he is working his way up.


yamablaster, we have seen local and national youth production riders and thier machines. Talent wont be replaced by parts, but merely complement each other. I am also a parent that wont throw him into something I dont feel he is ready for. When the time is right, he will do what he does and that will be that.

[wvspeedfreak]

Get him the Cobra.If he doesn't like it or outgrows it quickly,I'll buy it from you for Austin :p

[G Impala 63n70]

What does he think?

[Pappy]

Originally posted by G Impala 63n70
What does he think?

He wants to try the cobra, but thats an expensive test:p The only salvation i have is that my other son could easily hop on it with the addition of the auto clutch.

[insaneracin2003]

Originally posted by Pappy
Greg, he has the honor of being the shortest person he knows:D He is stocky as all get out, but hasnt sprouted yet. He did just have mom measure him and he is up to 4'9" LOL so I reckon he is working his way up.


yamablaster, we have seen local and national youth production riders and thier machines. Talent wont be replaced by parts, but merely complement each other. I am also a parent that wont throw him into something I dont feel he is ready for. When the time is right, he will do what he does and that will be that.
woah!!! That is a big mower :eek2: :p

[insaneracin2003]

Pappy,I might be selling my fresh 416.Cody will look good on that!! I really dont want to sell it but i might have to.

Originally posted by insaneracin2003
woah!!! That is a big mower :eek2: :p

thats what i was thinking lol

[mx428]

Originally posted by Pappy
Greg, he has the honor of being the shortest person he knows:D He is stocky as all get out, but hasnt sprouted yet. He did just have mom measure him and he is up to 4'9" LOL so I reckon he is working his way up. Damn! I'm almost a foot and a half taller and almost the same age. Hopefully he grows, for his sake.

[Blizzard24]

Pappy, get Cody the Cobra for this year, and next year sell it and the 300ex for the new LTR250 coming out:D

[Pappy]

Yeah, I hate always bringing his height (or lack there of) into things, but IMO it does affect his riding. He loves his 300, but I can see differences when he rides it over his hybrid 90 in how agressive he is on the track. I know with more seat time he will do fine on the 300, but I also know that another learning curve could take time etc. Having the cobra would allow him to continue his racing when he feels like it, and his ability on the 300 would only get better etc.

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by Pappy
Greg, he has the honor of being the shortest person he knows:D He is stocky as all get out, but hasnt sprouted yet. He did just have mom measure him and he is up to 4'9" LOL so I reckon he is working his way up.



Yeah He's short . LOL . You know my dad always said that a few kicks in the rear will make you grow ...... but my mom never allowed it , that's why I'm only 5'8 . :grr:

What weight are these Cobras generally made for ?? He may be short , but like you said , he seems pretty stocky .... which then again might throw a loop into your decision . The quad might fit him height wise , but will it work for him weight wise ???

Like it was said before ....atleast you have the option of passing it down to Ryan once Cody outgrows it if you decide to go with this quad . I say grab a coin , and the best 2 out of 3 wins . :p

And , if he really wants to try something different , I'll sell him a Yamaha Grizzly . :blah: :devil:

By the way .... what's the cost of a BK t-shirt ??? My atire is in need of a makeover . :cool:

[Pappy]

I think he weighs around 105 now.

I have to get to the shirt company with the new design, then i will have some to get rid of!

[XCAdam89]

What about a blaster...They are cheaper, and smaller to fit his height. I'm short too, At 16 I'm only around 5'6-5'7 and I'm one of the smallest people in my class. I know I'd rather be racing a blaster or 300ex over a YFZ of 450R simply because I just feel more comfortable on it right now....

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by XCAdam89
What about a blaster...They are cheaper, and smaller to fit his height. I'm short too, At 16 I'm only around 5'6-5'7 and I'm one of the smallest people in my class. I know I'd rather be racing a blaster or 300ex over a YFZ of 450R simply because I just feel more comfortable on it right now....

You really find you're more comfortable on a Blaster as opposed to a YFZ ?

I'm only 5'8" so I'm not too far off from you , and when I tried out my cousin's Blaster , I found I was sooooo cramped on it . It felt like I had no room at all to move around on it . My YFZ suited me perfectly for my size . All I had to do was add a set of bars so that I wasn't bent over and killing my back .... other than that , I found it to be the perfect size for my height .

[XCAdam89]

I haven't ridden a YFZ to tell you, just sat on one, ect.

But for Cody, I think it would suit him great. He's not even 5ft yet, so he should be able to handle it fine.

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by XCAdam89
I haven't ridden a YFZ to tell you, just sat on one, ect.

But for Cody, I think it would suit him great. He's not even 5ft yet, so he should be able to handle it fine.

Ya for Cody that size bike will probably fit him the best .

If you have the chance to go out and ride a YFZ for an afternoon , you'll see how well it's suited for us short guys . I've been on bikes where I felt the bike was a lot bigger than I was and I was not comfortable at all . When I jumped on the YFZ , it was like riding a bike that was built for me . It was not too small to the point where I felt cramped , and it was not too big as to where I felt I was always fighting the quad .

[XCAdam89]

I'll try. JRP on this site lives near me, so maybe I'll try out a 450 sometime...I grew up on Utilities, and I currently own a Yamaha Big Bear 400, and whenever I ride, it feels like I'm fighting it all the time...That's why I'm looking for a smaller quad..and I don't have the $$$ for a 450 even if I wanted one because I'd have to pay for it myself.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by XCAdam89
and whenever I ride, it feels like I'm fighting it all the time...

So you think cody doesnt fight a 300ex when its 10 foot in the air, or fight it when he is working through a rythm section:p

[XCAdam89]

I'm not going to lie...Cody would own me. :p

[PolarisRider]

WOW! He's 4'9?! :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:

Man, I'm his age also and I'm 5'9!....... and I thought I was short:ermm:

Well, I guess height doesnt make a difference when riding, because he's sure as hell better than me. I know I wouldn't be going off those jumps on my 300. :scary:

[wilkin250r]

Anybody know the HP numbers on a Cobra?

Even if it's down a little on horsepower, the smaller frame and weight will make it easier to throw around, and make Cody a better rider overall.

Pappy, what kind of motor mods have been done to the 300EX?

[Pappy]

Our 300 is bone stock. It has chassy skid, swing arm skid, nerf bars, handle bars and tires and rims. Everything else is stock.


I dont know the hp numbers on the cobra either, but i would geuss with the 70 kit somewhere near 12 and with the 90 kit 15 or so.


And you are correct, being able to make the quad do what you want it to is a huge benefit.

[CTmxyfz]

Originally posted by Quad18star
Ya for Cody that size bike will probably fit him the best .

If you have the chance to go out and ride a YFZ for an afternoon , you'll see how well it's suited for us short guys . I've been on bikes where I felt the bike was a lot bigger than I was and I was not comfortable at all . When I jumped on the YFZ , it was like riding a bike that was built for me . It was not too small to the point where I felt cramped , and it was not too big as to where I felt I was always fighting the quad .


no doubt, when us taller riders like me get on a yfz, i have mods like a +1 stem and CR double high bars.:chinese:

[wvspeedfreak]

I am just waiting on the thread titled "pics of Cody on the Cobra":D

[Pappy]

Originally posted by wvspeedfreak
I am just waiting on the thread titled "pics of Cody on the Cobra":D

waiting on a phone call:p

actually the owner of the cobra is a good friend, and he is at his brothers shop which is being filmed for discovery channels biker build off!


i have no such luck, i am canning beans, making pickles and canning potaoes today:scary: