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Chino886
07-10-2006, 09:57 AM
I don't know if it is true or not, but I heard that it is just 8 400EX OEM fibers and 7 OEM 250R steels for the 8-Plate "HD" Clutch.

Anyone have confirmation?

I know I have posted this several times, but I don't want to spend a bunch of money and not have it pan out!

Thanks!

ohsobad_chevy
07-10-2006, 11:31 AM
LOL...I have no idea what you are talking about, bro. :confused:

procircuit406ex
07-10-2006, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by ohsobad_chevy
LOL...I have no idea what you are talking about, bro. :confused:

2nd that lol

Iliketogofast
07-10-2006, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by procircuit406ex
2nd that lol

And I 3rd it! I sure did feel like an idiot, but it isn't so bad now :D

trx400EXtreme
07-10-2006, 11:55 AM
uuuuhhhhhhhh????????

sorry dude, i got no idea what u mean.



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Chino886
07-10-2006, 11:56 AM
Well, first off, have you guys heard of a "8-plate clutch kit"?

ohsobad_chevy
07-10-2006, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Chino886
Well, first off, have you guys heard of a "8-plate clutch kit"?

oh..lol sorry man You kinda left out "clutch" Sorry, but I have no experience with aftermarket clutches yet. I take it that you are talking about clutch plates though...right? :p

Chino886
07-10-2006, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by ohsobad_chevy
oh..lol sorry man You kinda left out "clutch" Sorry, but I have no experience with aftermarket clutches yet. I take it that you are talking about clutch plates though...right? :p

Thanks! I corrected the original post!

I am talking about the clutch plates. ;)

Iliketogofast
07-10-2006, 12:01 PM
Idk... I just ordered my set from EBC and it works good. I don't see how that could give you any real gains performance wise...

Chino886
07-10-2006, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by Iliketogofast
Idk... I just ordered my set from EBC and it works good. I don't see how that could give you any real gains performance wise...

So you wouldn't want a longer lasting clutch :confused:

BossmanEX
07-10-2006, 01:01 PM
Your clutch doesnt give you horsepower, it helps to transfer the horsepower from your motor to the wheels. If you want Horsepower gains you need to focus on the motor.

As for your original qeustion about whether mixing steels and fibers will work or not, I do not know as I havent had any dealings with the clutch in mine yet.

Chino886
07-10-2006, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by BossmanEX
Your clutch doesnt give you horsepower, it helps to transfer the horsepower from your motor to the wheels. If you want Horsepower gains you need to focus on the motor.

As for your original qeustion about whether mixing steels and fibers will work or not, I do not know as I havent had any dealings with the clutch in mine yet.

Okay, enough with the IDK comments, I understand what a clutch does, what good is power if you can't put it to the dirt......

For anyone else that does not know, please do not feel the need to drop me a line telling me "I don't know"......

Thanks! :mad:

smartypants
07-10-2006, 01:53 PM
300ex steel and 250r fiber plates and yes it's an improvement.

Laz could tell you for sure if you want to be positive.

Chino886
07-10-2006, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by smartypants
300ex steel and 250r fiber plates and yes it's an improvement.

Laz could tell you for sure if you want to be positive.

Thanks!

I know Laz knew, but I hate asking people like that those questions, those are the "secrets".

Quaddog3
07-10-2006, 02:37 PM
Defo an improvement.

My mate is running a 452 gt thunder stroker kit and the Torque was ripping the clutch. Has put an 8 plate clutch in now and all is ok. You will need a longer cable though and will need to refine it a bit.:D

PismoLocal
07-10-2006, 03:44 PM
Yep I heard 400ex fibers and 250r steels, The 400ex steels are thicker or something and you can fit in an extra plate if you use the 250r ones. I have never done it though and I don't know any one that has but I have heard of people doing it.

BossmanEX
07-10-2006, 08:51 PM
So all you do is remove the 400ex fibers and plates and replace them with the 300ex/250r parts? Nothing else is involved in this process?

ss440ex
07-10-2006, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by PismoLocal
Yep I heard 400ex fibers and 250r steels, The 400ex steels are thicker or something and you can fit in an extra plate if you use the 250r ones. I have never done it though and I don't know any one that has but I have heard of people doing it.
I believe thats correct, Its an old Curtis Sparks trick.
Works great!!

Iliketogofast
07-11-2006, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by BossmanEX
Your clutch doesnt give you horsepower, it helps to transfer the horsepower from your motor to the wheels. If you want Horsepower gains you need to focus on the motor.

As for your original qeustion about whether mixing steels and fibers will work or not, I do not know as I havent had any dealings with the clutch in mine yet.

I didn't say it did. I know what a clutch does.

patches85
07-11-2006, 07:41 PM
Im curious to hear from someone who knows whats up with this!?

cals400ex
07-11-2006, 08:46 PM
i have heard of this too but i don't know exactly. i was just going to say Laz is probably the one you want to talk to.... i am not sure how much he will want to tell you because he sells an 8-plate setup himself. i think i paid $140 or so for my sparks 8-plate setup. it may be just as cheap to buy a kit, plus you will know you are getting the right one.

ohsobad_chevy
07-12-2006, 08:14 AM
For anyone else that does not know, please do not feel the need to drop me a line telling me "I don't know"......


Originally posted by cals400ex
i have heard of this too but i don't know exactly.

ROFL :D :D

Quaddog3
07-12-2006, 12:26 PM
Theres a guy called Jiffers, I think he gets on here, He has done it and it runs good, but not sure of exact details. Will get him to post. ;)

jiffers
07-12-2006, 12:39 PM
yes i run 8 400ex fibers with 300ex steels the only reason i run the 300ex clutch cable is because i have a full exhaust system and the standard cable melts on the front pipe.
i run a gt thunder 452 engine kit and race mx and this clutch has no problem putting the power down and have used it for nearly a seasons racing where as the standard 7 plates i was lucky getting 1 meeting out of a clutch
one word of warning though don't use aftermarket fibers they are Shiite
oh and quaddog you know you want my 440 kit dont ya

Chino886
07-12-2006, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by jiffers
yes i run 8 400ex fibers with 300ex steels the only reason i run the 300ex clutch cable is because i have a full exhaust system and the standard cable melts on the front pipe.
i run a gt thunder 452 engine kit and race mx and this clutch has no problem putting the power down and have used it for nearly a seasons racing where as the standard 7 plates i was lucky getting 1 meeting out of a clutch
one word of warning though don't use aftermarket fibers they are Shiite
oh and quaddog you know you want my 440 kit dont ya

And we have a winnner!

jiffers
07-12-2006, 01:21 PM
one thing i cant remember if it was that clutch basket i scimed a couple of thou off i dont think idid

Chino886
07-12-2006, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by jiffers
one thing i cant remember if it was that clutch basket i scimed a couple of thou off i dont think idid

I have a Hinson, do I still need to modify the basket!

jiffers
07-12-2006, 01:30 PM
i dont think so as the 300ex plates are thinner but thicker than the 250r

Chino886
07-12-2006, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by jiffers
i dont think so as the 300ex plates are thinner but thicker than the 250r

I am looking for some 300ex plates as I type this.

I have a whole set of 400ex fibers already and the one in my quad.

billyboy
07-13-2006, 06:53 AM
Originally posted by BossmanEX
Your clutch doesnt give you horsepower, it helps to transfer the horsepower from your motor to the wheels. If you want Horsepower gains you need to focus on the motor.

As for your original qeustion about whether mixing steels and fibers will work or not, I do not know as I havent had any dealings with the clutch in mine yet.

That in a way is not true.
If your clutch is worn or has definate use issues, it will not diliver the 47H.P. that your motor is putting out. There for the back wheels might only be getting 38H.P. Obviously making your clutch the power robber. To say the clutch does not give you H.P. is like saying a ferrari would be great as an Automatic. Won't happen! That is the reason they put clutches in high output cars. To deliver the high output to the wheels.

Now it does not add any H.P. but it can steal it.