Hotcam question

[AR15 guy]

I am about to order a HMF slip-on and a hotcam. I am still on the stock bore/stroke and compression but I will probably do a 416 w/high compression piston whenever it needs it.

Should I go ahead and go with a stage 2 or stay stage 1?

How bad will my low end power be with a stage 2 compared to the stage 1?

[Honda2000]

I would definetaly go with the stage 2, I run the stage 2 with the stock bore and have never regretted it. I haven't raced anyone with the stage 1 so i can't tell you the low end difference, but it can't be that noticeable. The top end increase is well worth the low end loss!!

[AR15 guy]

How bad is the low end loss? I ask because I still do a good bit of trail riding.

[Franky G]

Go stage 1 if you trail ride thats wath I have in my MX bike and theres tone of bottom end torque.

[flauge]

Ya, if youre going to get a 416 kit one day you might as well get a stage 2 then...

[patches85]

I got the old stage 2 and a wiseco 11:1 426 piston and my bike rips! I gained power everywhere, no loss!

[AR15 guy]

I may just go ahead and get the stage 2. Because I will eventually up the compression and CC's.

No point in having to buy a cam again.

[SnowFlake]

right now im getting my motor built and whats getting doine to it is: Bore to 416 weisco piston 11:1 compression stage 1 cam stage 2 port and polish tranny and head getting rebuilt and im also getting an HMF slip on. I talked to the guy about what i do and i he really recomnded the stage 1 cam for me cause all i do is trail ride and i might hit a track once or twice a year. It costs money but it will be worth it ill let yo guys know how it turns out. It also depends on where u ride.

[AR15 guy]

Snow...how is your EBC clutch holding up?

I just installed mine a couple rides ago. So far so good.

[SnowFlake]

well i did it last summer and i just took it apart and every thing seems to be fine i didnt notic any slippage the last time i rode, the guy doing my motor is going to check it to see if it will be good.

[BossmanEX]

I have a 416 with a stage II and the power is still plentifull on trails. The only 2 things I dont like about it is that I still have to "clean it out" when trail riding b/c it loads up. I just open it up and let it breathe a bit and its all good. The power band is deffinately all in the top end. I think it rides like a 2 stroke powerband wise. The other thing I dont like about the hot cam is the noise. It rattles soooo much and I hat it. It makes me think something is wrong and EVERYONE notices it. Ive heard 2 others with Hotcams in them and they both sounded the same. Im fixing to tear mine down and re-ring it and Im looking into a web cam. I hear theyre a lot quieter.

[AR15 guy]

Buddy was worried about his raptor because the valves made so much noise.

He called around and everyone who had them said they were noisy..oh well I suppose.

[patches85]

I never noticed any noise, and also if you have to "open it up" you may be lean on the pilot and rich on the main. This happened to me.

[400excaleb]

my motor is stock and im wanted to get me a cam, i mostly ride trails, so you say the stage 1 has most low end and stage 2 has top end, cause i need as much low end as i can get.

How much of a jetting change will i have to make.

[AR15 guy]

I am probably going to try a 155 main jet and a 40 pilot when I get the cam.

Really depends on my exhaust situation tho. I think I may go ahead and get the cam first since its cheaper.

[slvrlakerdr08]

i would get them at the same time cause i think ur suposed to have a higher flowing exhaust with aftermarket cams. that HMF will give u plenty of low end tho trust me

[Sleeper]

Given the choice between cam or exaust, I'd go exaust first. If you don't have a K&N I would do that to. and if you don't tackle serious mud and water I would at least drill some good size holes in your air box lid. If you do that all at once you won't end up having to jet your carb a bunch of times.



Sleeper

PS: I run a stage 1 and am pretty happy for trail riding. Way more power all the way through. Used to take forever to wind out 5th gear. Now i'm looking for another gear constantly.