Best 450?

[suzukikid92]

which is better overall when considering speed, handleing acceleration, etc. The Ltr450 yfz450 or 450r? Thanks

[LOUDONE]

YFZ 450... If you're looking for pure adrenalized speed, then a Banshee is your ride.

[450ERRRRRR!]

Flip a coin. Each has it's own best points. Handling goes to the zukie Power goes to the Honda. Yamaha can do some of all. If you tweak any of htese then they will out do any stock version.
I just like the looks of the honda and the motor seems to be th e most powerfull stock. It also depends what your going to be doing . Trails, mx or cross country. I just ride th eback gravel roads in the county and look for some action. sometimes it more than I want like the Missouri Highway patrol. Years ago I would have not even thought about stopping. Now they kinda of freak out when I pull over and take off my helment and there the is 50 year old man and after a few yes sirs I'm on my way. If i'd had this thing 25 years ago they would have still be eatan my dust and wondering what that was or.......i'd be 6 feet under:rolleyes:

[LIL440EX]

read the shootout on dirtwheels.
honda450r fastest/most confortable
conering/lap time/handling- suzuki
450z best supspention,gearing,and can make them real fast...

thats basicly the article...

[quadracer3]

AND LOOK BETTER

[jshtex]

Originally posted by LIL440EX
read the shootout on dirtwheels.


I have always been of the opinion that advertising dollars drive magazine shootouts. I mean can you ever remember them slaming anything. I have read write ups on Chinese bikes that I can't even pronounce the name of where they they mentioned things like parts falling off, and yet they still make the story sound positive.

Any one of the three can win a race. If they are equally setup it becomes more about the rider.

But if you are trying to figure out which one to buy, YOU need to ride them and decide which one fits you.

[250r4life]

Originally posted by LIL440EX
read the shootout on dirtwheels.
honda450r fastest/most confortable
conering/lap time/handling- suzuki
450z best supspention,gearing,and can make them real fast...

thats basicly the article...

dirt wheels is full of shiz just so you know... there is too much politics and economics involved in their magaziine...

and i cant beleive you guys say honda has the edge in regards to power... everything i have ever seen is that the yfz is by far the fastest...
i am a honda guy and love my R, but i am looking to get a 450 as well, and the yfz is what i will be gettting...

[250r4life]

Originally posted by quadracer3
AND LOOK BETTER

lol... i would rank suzuki last in that department... lol...

[MXracer16]

Originally posted by 250r4life
lol... i would rank suzuki last in that department... lol...

Well, I think it looks the best out of the 3. Unforunetly, opinions are like a-holes, everyone has one, and they always stink.

[CHEVYZ]

Originally posted by 250r4life
dirt wheels is full of shiz just so you know... there is too much politics and economics involved in their magaziine...

and i cant beleive you guys say honda has the edge in regards to power... everything i have ever seen is that the yfz is by far the fastest...
i am a honda guy and love my R, but i am looking to get a 450 as well, and the yfz is what i will be gettting... Coming from MY personal experience, the 450r is the fastest. I have two buddies with 05s, and one with a 06 (YFZ), and both of my 450rs edge them out in speed. They even agree. Everyone has different experiences with the bikes though, so it isn't like you are gonna always have the same results.:ermm:

[250r4life]

Originally posted by CHEVYZ
Coming from MY personal experience, the 450r is the fastest. I have two buddies with 05s, and one with a 06 (YFZ), and both of my 450rs edge them out in speed. They even agree. Everyone has different experiences with the bikes though, so it isn't like you are gonna always have the same results.:ermm:

like you said- everyone had different experiences... just me personally, but you couldnt convince me that the honda is faster... we have an 06 honda and yfz, and although i like the feel of the trx better, the yfz is hands down faster... even the trx owner says so... says that yah they both have power, but the trx trails off sooner and the yfz just keeps pulling into higher rpms...

[CHEVYZ]

LOL, just pointing that out. I feel the same way about the YFZ, but I bet that if I went somewhere else where one would bust my ***, I would probably feel different LOL.

[450r51]

imo the suzuki is the best in stock form just because its low and wide already.

now start modding each 450 and the honda and suzuki start pulling ahead. they both have very strong engines. look at the nationals for xc,mx, and tt and u will see a ton more hondas then nething else. this is for one reason because the engine can be modded to make a lot of hp and still be very reliable.

since the suzuki is fairly new, not many ppl have them but if your looking into having the best stock quad around, then my vote goes to the suzuki, but if you plan on dumping in a ton of money and making it a racer then either honda or suzuki.

by next year it will be all honda and suzuki...yamaha will begin to fall by the way side.

[jshtex]

Originally posted by 450r51
by next year it will be all honda and suzuki...yamaha will begin to fall by the way side.

I can't really believe Yamaha's going to let that happen.

Remember they still haven't anounced the 07 YFZ's yet, and I bet it will be more than some new color options.

But like I said before, ride them all and get the one that fits you. The better rider would win with any of the three.

[doc-bones]

I have had 05 450R and now have an 06 450ER. I have had 3 YFZ450`s. All have been modded. The 450R`s are more comfortable. The YFZ`s are more snappy and obviously faster. I ride with a few LTR`s. All I will tell you is they like the handling, however, they are not impressed with the power!

[250r4life]

Originally posted by doc-bones
I have had 05 450R and now have an 06 450ER. I have had 3 YFZ450`s. All have been modded. The 450R`s are more comfortable. The YFZ`s are more snappy and obviously faster. I ride with a few LTR`s. All I will tell you is they like the handling, however, they are not impressed with the power!

gee... that sounds a lot like what i have continuously said
thanks doc

[doc-bones]

250r4Life,
I keep 2 quads in Yuma. If you want to rip I will get you dates of our next trip to Glamis. Should be late October or Thanksgiving?
Doc

[CHEVYZ]

Anybody wanna come pick me up LOL.

[Jay87]

lol you said the fastest speed. i seen a article with yfz and trx and gas gas 450 and the gg 450 was fastest at the end of the straight but the yfz and trx had the edge on the get go and accelaration.

May i also point out Just wait for the 2007 gg 450 ;)

[250r4life]

Originally posted by doc-bones
250r4Life,
I keep 2 quads in Yuma. If you want to rip I will get you dates of our next trip to Glamis. Should be late October or Thanksgiving?
Doc

right on... yah i was gunna meet up with ya'll when you came last march but ended up going down to brazil for a couple weeks instead... yah let me know... starting mid october im down at the dunes about every other weekend until easter... however i spend most of my time at gordons well, although i usually make at least one trip to glamis every season... if not more... but if i recall correctly ya'll ride over there and to buttercup anyhow...

which ones do you keep in yuma? i know you got/had a couple Rs, and that honshee, and....

what about beerock- that old man doing ok? i havent seen him post in a while... hopefully all is well with him... ya'll are buds right?

[doc-bones]

Yea Beerock had some back surgery a few months back. He has not been around since. I have the Honshee which is being completely redone out there and a new 450ER as backup. Both are completely set up for the dunes. We ride long trips usually from the washes to Gecko down sand highway to Gordons, Buttercup, Mexico then back through sidewinder through the mountains and back through the dunes. With many different trip variations. We refuel at either Pair-a-dice or at the Shell station on HWY 8 at sidewinder. I still have a built YFZ and a Complete ROLL DESIGN LOBO 2/ 350R here in N.J. for the rips here in the EAST!

[250r4life]

must be rough :D
hey if you ever need anybody to take your bikes out here and make sure they get ridden and dont sit too long- im your man... :D
where do you have them there in yuma?

[doc-bones]

16th street

[KWAD GAWD]

Yami is def. the fastest, Honda is good all around, Suz is an MX bike and will require the least money to make it race ready. Although I've ridden a LTR in the woods and it's fine for trail riding, but for GNCC it's need to be narrower.

It just depends on what you want. At this point they're all pretty damn good. You just have to weigh out the options, and pick what suits you best.

[sinzbrosracing4]

all the magazines are full of **** basically whatever company Yam.Suz.Hon has more ads that 450 wins. its all polictical

[250r4life]

Originally posted by KWAD GAWD
Yami is def. the fastest,


look at that we actually agree on somn

[jshtex]

Originally posted by jshtex
Remember they still haven't anounced the 07 YFZ's yet, and I bet it will be more than some new color options.

Well it was a "little" more than new color options.

Factory Oil mod, some brake upgrades, upgrade to the clutch, new colors and graphics, Pro Taper bars, and better shocks on the SE. Definatly not what I was hoping for though....

[benz400]

thats kinda minor changes... i am sure u will not be able to tell me the diff between 2006 brakes and 2007 brakes...
clutch? well smoother maybe
what about their look? awsome the 2007 SE is very very nice

[Ridin' Jesse]

If your gonna keep it stock, buy the LT-R*(for MX im saying)..if not the YFZ or TRX will suit you fine with upgrades...IMO It doesn't matter what your racing, because, for the millionth time said, "Rider, Rider, Rider."

[benz400]

true, but ull have to spend more on the honda and yam to come at the same level as the lt-r for MX

[DOHC]

Originally posted by benz400
true, but ull have to spend more on the honda and yam to come at the same level as the lt-r for MX
i wouldnt agree sure its nice and wide but the frame is junk. I would go withy honda or yamaha

[250r4life]

Originally posted by DOHC
i wouldnt agree sure its nice and wide but the frame is junk. I would go withy honda or yamaha

:devil: :D :devil:

[bwamos]

Originally posted by DOHC
i wouldnt agree sure its nice and wide but the frame is junk. I would go withy honda or yamaha

I would disagree with your assesment. Aside from the linkage connection needing a quick weld on the earlier runs.. I haven't seen any need for gusseting to run it MX. All TRX and YFZ frames require gusseting in order to run MX.

Also TRX & YFZ frames are made out of mild steel (I beleive). The LT-R frame is made of high tensile steel which is much stronger and less likley to fatigue when flexing.

[250r4life]

Originally posted by bwamos
I would disagree with your assesment. Aside from the linkage connection needing a quick weld on the earlier runs.. I haven't seen any need for gusseting to run it MX. All TRX and YFZ frames require gusseting in order to run MX.

Also TRX & YFZ frames are made out of mild steel (I beleive). The LT-R frame is made of high tensile steel which is much stronger and less likley to fatigue when flexing.

hmm... i dont recall seeing pics of hondas and yamaha with the frames broken in half :D

[bwamos]

I'll Refresh your memory.. ;)

TRX450R

[bwamos]

TRX450R

[bwamos]

YFZ

[bwamos]

Now, I know about the lower shock linkage mounts on the earlier runs of the LT-R failing, due to poor reinforcment. Has been fixed, and recalled.

Other than that, I am unaware of any other issues with the frames. I haven't seen any LT-R frames breaking in half. (A torn mount isn't a frame broken in half).

[bwamos]

Oh yea can't forget this one.. YFZ

[250r4life]

i dunno... those look photoshoped... i question if they were authentic pics... :D

[bwamos]

:blah: , lol.

I coppied them straight from threads on this board. ;)

[benz400]

bwamos ur the man, 250r4life nothing more to say? u choke...
:devil:

[250r4life]

Originally posted by benz400
bwamos ur the man, 250r4life nothing more to say? u choke...
:devil:

yah... you can lick deez...

any frame can break if you put it through enough abuse... i dont recall hearing about those frames breaking when the bike was only a week old...

[benz400]

u still cant understand??? u know what is a recall?? i didnt heard about the second generation frame broke... oopps?? u have nothing to say

[250r4life]

Originally posted by benz400
u still cant understand??? u know what is a recall?? i didnt heard about the second generation frame broke... oopps?? u have nothing to say

boy i dont understand a word coming out of your mouth? who learned you how to write? :D

[benz400]

u change the subject baby... i am from canada my first language is french. Mange dla marde, criss de juif circoncit. There ya go, this was french. :rolleyes: :p

[250r4life]

mas a coisa e que eu falo mais do que uma lingua tambem... mas a coisa e que quando eu falo, as outras pessoas podem me entender tambem... isso e a razao que posso mangar de voce por ter falado ingles tao ruim, porque eu posso falar outras linguas e sei como e aprender... so que eu sou mais inteligente do que voce e aprendi melhor...

ps- youre not the only one who speaks multiple languages... i just do it better and people can actually understand me

[benz400]

ur not the only one to speak spanish !:devil:
return on ur 2 stroke **** and dont come back plz

[250r4life]

thats not spanish smart guy... although i do speak spanish better than you do english...

[benz400]

haha i am not sure about this, but who cares what language i talk because anyways i am the first at the end of the finish line!

p.s do u think i should remove my rear light?

[250r4life]

yah you might as well remove your rear light- nobody ever sees it anyways...
:devil: :eek2: :devil:

[benz400]

i tough u were tired of seeing my rear light, u must be mad when u see it all the time..

[250r4life]

i haf to saye that you did a well cumbak

[benz400]

oh boy i love u honey!:eek2:

[250r4life]

oh man we've got a flamer on our hands...

[z40021]

Id say the ltr. Read the article in quad magazine. It puts all 3 450s againt each other. The ltr450 was the best in most of the catagorys and the honda 450r was the worst.

[CHEVYZ]

LMAO @ this thread.

And P.S...... magazines are full of crap. Well, most are anyways. I would be careful on theinformation you take from them.

[250r4life]

Originally posted by CHEVYZ
LMAO @ this thread.

And P.S...... magazines are full of crap. Well, most are anyways. I would be careful on theinformation you take from them.

:D

whata you talking about- those magazines produce nothing but pure facts- didnt you know? :D

[bwamos]

LoL, you guy's are cracking me up.

But, in all seriousness... all of the YZF is the best, Honda is the best, Suzuki is the best.. fanaticism should make one thing obvious. All three of the major 450's are very very close in quality. What is going to determine which one is best for whom is going to be the riders style. One rider's going to have faster lap times on the 450r. The next rider is going to be fastest on the YFZ, and yet another will be faster on the LT-R than he is in on the others.


Just think 8 years ago, our choices to argue over were..

Honda: TRX300EX
Yamaha: Banshee/Warrior
Suzuki: only had Utilities.
Kawasaki: Mohave, Lakota

[CHEVYZ]

Agreed.