What Happened to the 2007 300ex???

[Sjorge450R]

Why isnt honda making a 2007 300ex???

[fastex91]

That is the exact same question I was going to ask! We just built a new race 300 this season, I can't afford to buy a new model if they put like a CRF250 motor in a quad frame. I just can't see them doing away with a model in that price and engine size range.

[bwamos]

They have the 250ex.

There's a reason they didn't update anyhting on the 300ex, when they updated every other sport quad with at least 450r style plastics. I've been expecting it for a couple years now.

You've got the 250ex and the 400ex. The 300ex is an unnecessary step.

Now a sport quad with a crf250 engine would be great. ;)

[Sjorge450R]

you dont see any one racing 250ex's! They need the 300ex or something that will be legal for a Sport or 91-200 91-300 class.

[trX250eXmXr28]

ur all freaking out over nothing... remember last year this time.. they released the 400ex and 300ex and thats it... th 450r 250ex and 90 werent release because they got huge updates... well duh! there updtating the 300... probly making it a true 300cc's wut updated plastics and such.. i bet everyone on these forums that they are not doing away with the 300

[400 SS EX]

The 300ex is getting very dated and they might feel that it isn't a big enough market. With all the 400cc+ size bikes out now a days people aren't wanting it as much anymore. I mean you can get Z400 's and 400ex to keep with the new 450 's but I just don't see people trying to do it with a 300ex, and if people do why?? - no offense but you can get 1 or 2 year 400 for cheap these days. I know there is going to be some hardcore 300ex guy thats dumped thousands into his 300 and is still getting beat, but oh well I'm sure their are other people that might feel the same way. Just my 2 cents, don't hate me too much.

[BlasterEaten250]

Originally posted by trX250eXmXr28
ur all freaking out over nothing... remember last year this time.. they released the 400ex and 300ex and thats it... th 450r 250ex and 90 werent release because they got huge updates... well duh! there updtating the 300... probly making it a true 300cc's wut updated plastics and such.. i bet everyone on these forums that they are not doing away with the 300 yep, just wait until september;)

[Sjorge450R]

Originally posted by trX250eXmXr28
ur all freaking out over nothing... remember last year this time.. they released the 400ex and 300ex and thats it... th 450r 250ex and 90 werent release because they got huge updates... well duh! there updtating the 300... probly making it a true 300cc's wut updated plastics and such.. i bet everyone on these forums that they are not doing away with the 300

they better not update the plastic if they are doing this cause the 300ex plastic is what makes the 300ex, a 300ex. The 300ex is the only honda sport quad to still have its original fenders, which I happen to like.

[BlasterEaten250]

Originally posted by Sjorge300EX
they better not update the plastic if they are doing this cause the 300ex plastic is what makes the 300ex, a 300ex. The 300ex is the only honda sport quad to still have its original fenders, which I happen to like. yeah, I hope honda doesnt make them look like 450r plastics, I liked all the old plastics fine on the 400 and 250 and 90.

[atvridernc]

Honestly I think the 300ex is awesome but I can understand if they would replace it with a crf250 powered quad. It would be awesome to have an actual race 250.

[Ryanwolfe911]

I just went to the Honda dealers meeting and I can confirm there will be NO 2007 300ex. Many of you are correct in thinking they will make a CRF250 powered quad. It is due out sometime late November or early December. I for one am releived. The 300ex, and its 250X cousin have been around for way too long, without any major updates. Besides, the CRF motor will spank the crap out of the 300ex motor on any day. I know, I have built many quads with that engine. Should have been done 3 years ago if you ask me.

[atvridernc]

The 300ex motor makes around 11 or 12 h.p. vs the crf250 around 28. Its probly lighter too. But honda has been able to have control over the market due to low competition. The 300ex was reliable and cheap to build. But it is time to introduce a race 250 class atv and I think if honda will be the first it would greatly benefit them.

[BlasterEaten250]

Originally posted by atvridernc
The 300ex motor makes around 11 or 12 h.p. vs the crf250 around 28. The 250ex makes 14 horsepower, I think the 300ex is high teens. I agree it would greatly benefit honda by making a 250cc-high horsepower quad. But it might drop the sales of the 400ex.

[trX250eXmXr28]

Originally posted by BlasterEaten250
The 250ex makes 14 horsepower, I think the 300ex is high teens. I agree it would greatly benefit honda by making a 250cc-high horsepower quad. But it might drop the sales of the 400ex.


it WOULD! they are not getting rid of the 300.... i call bull**** until i see this so called crf250 made by honda.... i think they would make the 650ex befor a whole new 300

[Ryanwolfe911]

I work for one of the biggest Honda dealerships inthe Midwest. BELEIVE ME, there will be NO 2007 300ex. I hae been an American Honda certified technician for 7 years now, I am one of the first people to get the inside scoop on what Honda will be producing, because I have to get updated training on upcoming models before the hit the dealers floor. Our midwest rep told us there will be a new 250 class quad due out later this year, but if there isn't , it won't be the first time they have lied to us. They said the same thing 2 years ago, and it didn't happen. But I can tell you this, we have all the updated 2007 model service manuals on out computers, and the 300ex is nowhere to be found.

[bwamos]

Bone stock 300ex is 18hp at the crank. About 15-16 at the rear wheels.

Bone stock 250ex makes 16hp at the crank and about 13-14 at the rear wheels.

The main difference in power between the 250ex and the 300ex is not the HP it's the torque. The 300ex has a load more torque than the 250ex.

A trx250f would rock. Why not a stroked 250.. trx300f. ;)

But, I don't see the quad manufacturers making a high performance 250-300 quad soon. It would be cool, but there jsut isn't enough of a market to warrant the millions of dollars in investments for equipment, design, etc.

Almost all of the companies have a full lineup.

Entry Level: Yamaha will need to replace the blaster. I see them using the engine out of the Bruin250 in an entry level sport quad. (like the 250ex).

Intermediate: trx400ex, Raptor350, lt-z400, kfx400

Advanced: trx450r, yzf450, lt-r450, kfx450

Graned once the 250 4-stroke dirtbikes get more popular, we'll probably see a larger surge of intrest in the ATV market and we may see a performance 250 4-stroke. The other way it will happen is if Yamaha replaces the blaster with a YZF250. I don't see Honda leading the way here.. it will be Yamaha who starts the trend here, IMHO.

In an ATVr's world an all aluminum framed, stroked YZF250 w/ an FCR carb and a 46" stance would rock. ;)

[coryatver]

crf250 motor man the 400ex better watch out. It will be probley really tuned down but with a few mods it will run.

they are making a new 300ex and i got one!it looks like this.

[Ryanwolfe911]

LMAO!! Good one!

[DEAL]

its pretty clear there will be no 07 300ex .. it makes complete sence .. alot of dealerships around here are still trying to get rid of 04 and 05 leftovers...
a crf250 powered quad would be useless, not sell enough.

[Ryanwolfe911]

You've obviously never ridden a CRF250R. I want to buy that quad the second it comes out. And if there's no demand, then why have I built over 20 of them in the last year for local racers? seems to me like they would sell like hot cakes as the 300ex was always Honda's top seller, at least at my dealership.

[Codeman]

I agree that a new quad with a 250 motor would be awesome....however... I still like my new 300.

We were going to build me like a blaster hybrid with that type of motor.

[Ryanwolfe911]

I say bring back the 250R. To hell with 4 strokes. I own one and say that. I don't care if they require more maintanance, they just kick *** plain and simle.

[logan_450R]

This is the last year for 2 strokes so why would they do that

[the_coop]

last year for 2 strokes???? what do u mean ??

[Sjorge450R]

Originally posted by the_coop
last year for 2 strokes???? what do u mean ??

the emissions commity is banning all two-strokes over 90cc. I think that it is over 90.

[exrider008]

i hope they come out with a crf250 quad. the 300ex is a great quad but it is time for some change and the CRF quad would kill the 300.

if u look on honda web site all the other quads say 2007 and the 300 is 2006 http://powersports.honda.com/atvs/sport/

[400eXr1d3rZ]

they should make a trx-350ex, but that wouldnt be necessary i guess

[drifterx]

I'd like to believe they'd make a crf250 quad, but it'd be able to hang with, and probably spank a 400ex. I don't see why'd they want to do that, even though it'd be kick@$$ :D . Who knows, maybe they'll come out with something we don't even expect.

[Pappy]

I wouldnt hold your breathe waiting for Honda to release anything "race ready" especially a crf250 based quad. They have the 250ex with sport clutch as an entry level quad, and teh 400ex as a solid base for the next level. The 300ex just is not needed in thier eyes although I know alot of buyers do not like shaft drive.

Yamaha or polaris may have something along the lines of 250cc hit the market soon.

[Ryanwolfe911]

All I can tell you is keep watching. Oh and no shyt, it's the last year for 2 strokes, I was just making a point. BTW you haven't been able to buy a new 2 stroke in California for like 2 years now.

[Lonestar_R]

I have thought for a couple years now that Honda should do away with the 300EX and the 400EX and build something in the middle....Like a 350EX, like someone said earlier....make it a litte bigger like the size of a 400EX cause the 400 to me being a little taller feels better than the 300....that way the eliminate 2 models and make one great sport machine....then you have the entry level 250EX, a great all around sport quad 350EX and then the 450R....then you have a natural progression......I know before Honda put reverse in the 400 alot of guys I knew bought a 300EX cause it didn't have reverse.....well now look at the 400....I would say sales are pretty flat on that model now too......its a little much for a casual trail rider but the 300 doesn't ride near as well....Honda has just got too many models for a sport class......this is just my opinion....I've owned a 250X a 300EX a 400EX a 250R a 250EX and now a 450R.....and they all have good quailties but fall well short in some other areas.....Honda needs to really look at what they have and then send out a another Bomb like they did when the 400EX was introduced......you can't tell me they haven't made a pile on that model alone......

[blasteracer24]

Originally posted by 400 SS EX
The 300ex is getting very dated and they might feel that it isn't a big enough market. With all the 400cc+ size bikes out now a days people aren't wanting it as much anymore. I mean you can get Z400 's and 400ex to keep with the new 450 's but I just don't see people trying to do it with a 300ex, and if people do why?? - no offense but you can get 1 or 2 year 400 for cheap these days. I know there is going to be some hardcore 300ex guy thats dumped thousands into his 300 and is still getting beat, but oh well I'm sure their are other people that might feel the same way. Just my 2 cents, don't hate me too much.

you couldnt have said anything more wrong. what about the kids that arent old enough to race 450s and too old to race 90 mods etc? people arent getting 300s and building them to beat 450s. they are building them for their class that many kids across the nation are racing on 300s.

[Sjorge450R]

Originally posted by blasteracer24
you couldnt have said anything more wrong. what about the kids that arent old enough to race 450s and too old to race 90 mods etc? people arent getting 300s and building them to beat 450s. they are building them for their class that many kids across the nation are racing on 300s.


all this means it that when I go to sell my XC 300ex next year, I should have no-problem getting rid of it....:D

[DEAL]

Originally posted by Ryanwolfe911
You've obviously never ridden a CRF250R. I want to buy that quad the second it comes out. And if there's no demand, then why have I built over 20 of them in the last year for local racers? seems to me like they would sell like hot cakes as the 300ex was always Honda's top seller, at least at my dealership.

there are other places in the world then the U.S and alot of places do not have a class that you can run such a quad and be competative.. like up here.
And yes I have ridden a crf250, they do work good.
The 300ex was losing sales, especially since they put reverse on the 400ex ..

[Ryanwolfe911]

And your point is?........ The bottom line is that Honda no longer needs the 300ex.

[DEAL]

Originally posted by Ryanwolfe911
And your point is?........ The bottom line is that Honda no longer needs the 300ex.

That they won't make a crf250 based quad either.

2+2 is 4

[Sjorge450R]

Originally posted by reconmaster
300exs are the best bikes ever, and if you need a 450 your jumping the gun

I think that we will still see 300ex in the racing world for a lonnnnnng time.Just like the 250r's. They are going to become legends. And if people say that 300ex's are slow I dont believe that. I finished 36th overall at my race sunday out of 105 riders on a basicaly stock 300ex.

[300exOH]

Originally posted by reconmaster
frigg you guys, 300exs are competitve in non podium races, especially if you got your man thong on

Yes but mainly only against blasters and warriors/raptor 350. The blaster is gone so there won't be much competition for the 300 left on the track soon. I could see the Rappy 350 getting an engine upgrade soon to compete with the 400ex and that could leave the 300ex in the dust.

I have to wonder what this will do for the market value of the used 300ex's ??

[XCAdam89]

There isn't going to be a sudden "Stop" in the racing of blasters, Yamaha produced too many of them for organizations to not allow them to race.

[Sjorge450R]

Originally posted by XCAdam89
There isn't going to be a sudden "Stop" in the racing of blasters, Yamaha produced too many of them for organizations to not allow them to race.

i dont think that I will stop racing the 91-200 91-300 classes any time soon. look how old 250r's are and they are still raced and still ahve there own classes.

[300exOH]

Originally posted by XCAdam89
There isn't going to be a sudden "Stop" in the racing of blasters, Yamaha produced too many of them for organizations to not allow them to race.

I agree. There won't be a sudden stop unless the racing organizations do away with the class or stop allowing 2 strokes. My son is in the process of moving up to my 300ex and I'm hoping he will still have an opportunity to race it in a couple years.

[DEAL]

Originally posted by Sjorge300EX
i dont think that I will stop racing the 91-200 91-300 classes any time soon. look how old 250r's are and they are still raced and still ahve there own classes.

250rs are still raced, yes. You also have to understand that the 250r was the best all around racing quad for that long because there was a 10 year dry spell where no one produced new sport/high performance quads, which is why there were classes made for it.
A 250r can hang with a 450 with the right mods .. which is why they are still raced, a 300ex .. is not even close, even with a full out 330 kit axle, a-arms .. its still not competative.

[reconmaster]

its like deal said 300exs don't sell enough not everywheres has classes for blasters 300exs etc i race in an open cc class cause thats a;ll there is around here i ahve to work like a sob to get my good finishes
i am buying a ltr 450r at the end of the race season because i want something easier on the wallet and thats race ready and because there is no class for my bike to be competitive in
alot of dealers around here do have a hard time selling 300exs because not many people want them because people want something that is 400ccs or bigger

[IOWAracer]

Like he said the only way they will do away with it is if the promotors do it that or the rules are for production atv's bet you didnt think of that one now that the 300 and blaster arnt being made they might not be allowed!!

broc

[†2005 400ex†]

I think the one thing honda has a bad habit of doing is waiting to upgrade quads untill its too late, or in the 300exs case never, it was going to happen sooner or later and plus i want to see a crf250 race ready, cause i want to see how it stacks up against my 400/the 400 class

[XCAdam89]

I honestly don't understand why everyone thinks Honda or even Yamaha for that matter is going to make a racing 250cc ATV. Why would they? Both the blaster and 300ex are BEGINNERS ATV's, not race ready models. And they are not worried about marketing to the racers, thats what their 450cc Models are for, If Anything I see them making a tame 250 or 300cc four stroke.

Originally posted by Sjorge300EX
i dont think that I will stop racing the 91-200 91-300 classes any time soon. look how old 250r's are and they are still raced and still ahve there own classes. and they still kick some *** at the track to.im a die hard for stroke rider but they are not gonna stop racing them just because they stop making them.

[Caseys 300ex]

Ok i wish people wpuld quit say i hope they put a crf 250 engine on a 300ex. That would be stupid. They already have a 250ex why would they want to make a race 250. If there isnt a market for 300exs why would honda waste there money makeing a new 250 if they already have one. They need to worry about making a 650cc or 700cc sport quad before they make a stupid crf 250 quad. If people want that so bad then make one urself.

[†2005 400ex†]

I agree that honda should focus on 650 or 700cc sport quads, but but the crf 250 motor cranks out some ponies and ouwld rip in a quad

[DEAL]

I think Hondas main concern right now is keeping the 450r competative with all the new technology being introduced into the market.

[extremeblastr]

ok anybody who has said anything about the 250ex just shut the hell up your a friggin idiot the 250ex completely decked out is about as fast a piped 300 and don't tell me otherwise cuz i've seen this and know its true and don't say that yamaha isn't going to release a beginner level fourstroke sport quad cuz they absolutely have to if they are going to replace the only beginner level quad they have (not that the raptor 350 is exactly all that much faster then a blaster) and o for those of you who are worried about not being able to race a blaster or a 300 in a production class the rules state that anything that has been in production in the last 5 YEARS thats right i said YEARS is legal

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Caseys 300ex
Ok i wish people wpuld quit say i hope they put a crf 250 engine on a 300ex. That would be stupid. They already have a 250ex why would they want to make a race 250. If there isnt a market for 300exs why would honda waste there money makeing a new 250 if they already have one. They need to worry about making a 650cc or 700cc sport quad before they make a stupid crf 250 quad. If people want that so bad then make one urself.

The difference between a 300ex based engine and a crf250r engine is night and day both in its technology and power output.

The market exists for this level of machine, dont kid yourself.

Honda better worry more about getting its "race" 450cc dialed in more before they build a 700cc anything:chinese:

[Pappy]

Originally posted by extremeblastr
ok anybody who has said anything about the 250ex just shut the hell up your a friggin idiot the 250ex completely decked out is about as fast a piped 300 and don't tell me otherwise cuz i've seen this and know its true and don't say that yamaha isn't going to release a beginner level fourstroke sport quad cuz they absolutely have to if they are going to replace the only beginner level quad they have (not that the raptor 350 is exactly all that much faster then a blaster)

Simmer down turbo

[aaronqjones]

Originally posted by Pappy
Simmer down turbo

Pappy, I don't know you, but I have read many of your posts and threads. I just had to comment on what you said above. That is excellent. Turbo is right up there with "sport" or chief". fantastic, I adopted it as my own. Thanks man.

^^^^^:rolleyes: that was wiered^^^^

ok i heard from a guy that they are droping the 300ex because the demand for it was dwindaling.he told me that they were going to put more time into there 450r and try to focus on a machine that is more yamaha rhino/polaris ranger type.they are trying to tap into this side by side fad.thats just what i got from the grape vine.

[extremeblastr]

the side by side is a given they have already started playing with different ideas on that and i still stand by the fact that anybody who doesn't think that enough 300s and blasters out there to warrant them having their own class needs to go back to school cuz we run anywhere from 30-50 of these quads at each race in the northeast and if you don't believe me come check it out yourself and some of these kids are incredibly fast having a 300ex helps you learn to handle the power of a bigger bore fourstroke cuz if your not used to the power it will tire you out and like i just said the 300 teaches you about the powerband and it also helps you condition for a 450 whereas a 250ex even with anything you can think of on it for parts could be taken out for laps all day long by a mediocre rider so this middle of the road bikes are a must because without them you will begin to see more and more injuries in the amateur 450 classes cuz people without the ability to stop from riding over their head will be on some really fast bikes and these are not going to be minor injuries you can get hurt bad even if you aren't the fastes rider out there. At the last NEATV race we had someone in a stock class A STOCK CLASS go to the hospital for internal injuries after a crash because he let off at the wrong time for a jump and nosedived and then got run over by a younger inexperienced rider

[extremeblastr]

the side by side is a given they have already started playing with different ideas on that and i still stand by the fact that anybody who doesn't think that enough 300s and blasters out there to warrant them having their own class needs to go back to school cuz we run anywhere from 30-50 of these quads at each race in the northeast and if you don't believe me come check it out yourself and some of these kids are incredibly fast having a 300ex helps you learn to handle the power of a bigger bore fourstroke cuz if your not used to the power it will tire you out and like i just said the 300 teaches you about the powerband and it also helps you condition for a 450 whereas a 250ex even with anything you can think of on it for parts could be taken out for laps all day long by a mediocre rider so this middle of the road bikes are a must because without them you will begin to see more and more injuries in the amateur 450 classes cuz people without the ability to stop from riding over their head will be on some really fast bikes and these are not going to be minor injuries you can get hurt bad even if you aren't the fastes rider out there. At the last NEATV race we had someone in a stock class A STOCK CLASS go to the hospital for internal injuries after a crash because he let off at the wrong time for a jump and nosedived and then got run over by a younger inexperienced rider

[Race4Yamaha38]

they should just get ride of the 250ex casue i race mx and harescrambles and no one rides a 250ex in either style of racing and the 300 is much better competition for ppl like me who race a blaster.

[Race4Yamaha38]

they should just get ride of the 250ex casue i race mx and harescrambles and no one rides a 250ex in either style of racing and the 300 is much better competition for ppl like me who race a blaster.

[BlasterEaten250]

Originally posted by Race4Yamaha38
they should just get ride of the 250ex casue i race mx and harescrambles and no one rides a 250ex in either style of racing and the 300 is much better competition for ppl like me who race a blaster. And you know that everyone races:rolleyes:

[Race4Yamaha38]

Originally posted by BlasterEaten250
And you know that everyone races:rolleyes:


well i don't know everyone who races but i've done enough races to see that 250s don't do nearly as good as the 300s or the blasters.

[Seano300ex]

Originally posted by Race4Yamaha38
well i don't know everyone who races but i've done enough races to see that 250s don't do nearly as good as the 300s or the blasters.
true that

[Sjorge450R]

yeah im with Kevin. I race with him and I think that i have seen one 250ex out of about the 70 different quads that have signed up for that class. Saw the kid once and have yet to see him again.

[BlasterEaten250]

Yes, I know that nobody races a 250ex, I know that it couldn't compete with modified blasters and 300ex's, but my point is that Honda would not stop selling a quad just becuase nobody races it. Do you guys know how many 250's they sell? Probably an 8th or less of quad riders race, others just ride to have fun. The 250 is good at that.

[tp300ex]

Originally posted by †2005 400ex†
I think the one thing honda has a bad habit of doing is waiting to upgrade quads untill its too late, or in the 300exs case never, it was going to happen sooner or later and plus i want to see a crf250 race ready, cause i want to see how it stacks up against my 400/the 400 class

b.c they have the money to hold out to see wat others are doing then bring in there's

[300ex73]

I've heard lately that Suzuki is working on bringing out an LT-R250. So, if they do follow through with it (and from what it I hear, it's fairly likely), then it's highly likely that we could start seeing some new 250cc sport quads making their way into the lineups.

[300ex_#387]

Originally posted by 300ex73
I've heard lately that Suzuki is working on bringing out an LT-R250. So, if they do follow through with it (and from what it I hear, it's fairly likely), then it's highly likely that we could start seeing some new 250cc sport quads making their way into the lineups.

I also heard that. I wasn't sure if it was true or not. I thought yamaha would be the first to come out with a 250. We can only wait and see.

[2muchquad]

You've obviously never ridden a CRF250R. I want to buy that quad the second it comes out

Yeah ,the crf250f motor is good for about 30 hours,then its time to change all the valves.Definately borderline junk status.This problem alone isnt something you would expect from Honda.I wouldnt expect this motor to be of much use in a quad unless its dirt track because of the lack of torque for a 350lb quad.Anybody that says the 250f motors from honda are bulletproof must be full of sh*t or on honda's payroll.;)

[exrider008]

Originally posted by 2muchquad
Yeah ,the crf250f motor is good for about 30 hours,then its time to change all the valves.Definately borderline junk status.This problem alone isnt something you would expect from Honda.I wouldnt expect this motor to be of much use in a quad unless its dirt track because of the lack of torque for a 350lb quad.Anybody that says the 250f motors from honda are bulletproof must be full of sh*t or on honda's payroll.;)

r u kidding? i ride with 3 crf 250 and i have NEVER seen one of them have a problem. u just have to so matience and u wont have probs.

[440exnacsracer]

Originally posted by 2muchquad
Yeah ,the crf250f motor is good for about 30 hours,then its time to change all the valves.Definately borderline junk status.
i work for a honda dealer,...so yes i guess i am on hondas payroll...but i have yet to see one that needed new valves after 30 hours, that is an outrageous comment. as for a crf250 powered quad,...i doubt it. it would not be a beginner quad, and due to the cc;s it would have to be sold to riders 16 and up. at that age, most people looking for a race quad are going to look forward to a 400 or 450. also, i wouldnt expect the manufactures to start a 250 rampage directed towards racing strictly because they could not back any factory riders of a legal age. it would be too much of an expense to please a very small crowd of people. honda is releasing one new model this year at the convention and word is it will be a side by side. but who knows, maybe i am wrong. i would like to see a crf250 quad, but i would rather see the side by side

Originally posted by 440exnacsracer
i work for a honda dealer,...so yes i guess i am on hondas payroll...but i have yet to see one that needed new valves after 30 hours, that is an outrageous comment. as for a crf250 powered quad,...i doubt it. it would not be a beginner quad, and due to the cc;s it would have to be sold to riders 16 and up. at that age, most people looking for a race quad are going to look forward to a 400 or 450. also, i wouldnt expect the manufactures to start a 250 rampage directed towards racing strictly because they could not back any factory riders of a legal age. it would be too much of an expense to please a very small crowd of people. honda is releasing one new model this year at the convention and word is it will be a side by side. but who knows, maybe i am wrong. i would like to see a crf250 quad, but i would rather see the side by side
thats what i heard to.i would rather see honda get in to the side by side mix.just to see what they can do.any word on the engine size yet?

[2muchquad]

Well since im into the mx scene,i know several people that have had new valves in the 06's after a few hours.The yamaha 250f appears to be the most trouble free...easily.

[300ex_#387]

Originally posted by 2muchquad
Well since im into the mx scene,i know several people that have had new valves in the 06's after a few hours.The yamaha 250f appears to be the most trouble free...easily.

I race against more yamaha 250f hybrids than I do honda 250f hybrids. One of them is the 250x with the electric start. then there are 3 yamaha 250f's all in 400ex frames.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by 440exnacsracer
it would not be a beginner quad, and due to the cc;s it would have to be sold to riders 16 and up. at that age, most people looking for a race quad are going to look forward to a 400 or 450.

This line of thinking is exactly why they wont even attempt it. And I would buy 2 if they had them, but I also know that its sheer sales numbers that mean the most to the big manufactures:(

[Jake250ex]

I didnt go through and read all 5 pages of this, but I work at a Honda dealership and the boss man told me they are going to re do the new 300's (450 plastic)

[Ryanwolfe911]

So do I. I guess I'll find out for sure when I go to the dealers meeting this fall. SO far , all I've been hearing from the higher ups is that it is gone for good. I find it hard to beleive they would just give it the axe. It's such a good selling quad for Honda. We sold more 300ex's last year than anything else(Bikes jet ski's, quads)

[440exnacsracer]

Originally posted by teamhonda396x
thats what i heard to.i would rather see honda get in to the side by side mix.just to see what they can do.any word on the engine size yet?

one rumor was that honda was experimenting with the aquatrax motors....4 stroke, 4 cylinder, DOHC, liquid cooled, with the turbo charged option....yea. but if you look at hondas history, i would say that it is just a rumor. i think a more logical setup would be the new fuel injected rincon motor, and with the automotive style transmission it would be a nice setup. i think it would be hard to harness the power of an aquatrax motor in a transmission both strong enough and light enough for a utility vehicle.


about the 300 though, who knows, they could keep it and renew it. we have yet to get word on the new ranchers, so who knows, maybe honda is just takin their time

[KelOne333]

Originally posted by Ryanwolfe911
I work for one of the biggest Honda dealerships inthe Midwest. BELEIVE ME, there will be NO 2007 300ex. I hae been an American Honda certified technician for 7 years now, I am one of the first people to get the inside scoop on what Honda will be producing, because I have to get updated training on upcoming models before the hit the dealers floor. Our midwest rep told us there will be a new 250 class quad due out later this year, but if there isn't , it won't be the first time they have lied to us. They said the same thing 2 years ago, and it didn't happen. But I can tell you this, we have all the updated 2007 model service manuals on out computers, and the 300ex is nowhere to be found.

i really hate for this to be my first post on this board. but i've worked for a honda dealership for over 3 years now and the dealers don't know anything . for sure until the september show. so while you may be correct in the end...until it's written in stone, it's still only a rumor.

though i could see keeping the 250ex and having a 250RX (or insert your own designation here) with the CRF250x motor. the motor could be slightly detuned, and with the power loss to 2 rear wheels as opposed to just one, it would make power somewhere between the 300ex and 400ex. of course, this all just rumors and speculation.

[250ex13]

Originally posted by KelOne333
i really hate for this to be my first post on this board. but i've worked for a honda dealership for over 3 years now and the dealers don't know anything . for sure until the september show. so while you may be correct in the end...until it's written in stone, it's still only a rumor.

though i could see keeping the 250ex and having a 250RX (or insert your own designation here) with the CRF250x motor. the motor could be slightly detuned, and with the power loss to 2 rear wheels as opposed to just one, it would make power somewhere between the 300ex and 400ex. of course, this all just rumors and speculation. Hey what dealership do you work at? im in ct also.

[Mx_523]

Just a side note, how is your 07 450r gone already, 250ex13?

[z400rida44]

i dont know i think that the manufacturers might really be thinking about the 250f powered quads. i was recently taking a survey from suzuki about my z400( which i no longer have) and it said at the end that they were experimenting with 250f motors from the dirtbikes in race quads and they wondered if i was interested in this kind of a machine. personally i would love to see a quad like this because i used to have a crf250r and i loved it.

[Ryan22]

a 250ex is not a sport quad it might as well be a utility quad without a rack i hope they make a 250 4 stroke bike that would be cool i heard the thing about suzuki mabey making one in quad mag but they said it would probobly be for the pro am ive seen a 250 4 stroke engine with mods in a quad frame and with the right rider it will fly it will keep up with a 450 fast and if one factory makes on they may all make on but who nos if anything is going to happen it is honda afterall

[KelOne333]

well i just talked to my service rep and my sales rep. neither of them have any word as to what's up with the 300ex. the service rep says it'll probably just be another facelift ala 250ex and 400ex, if anything. with the 450R, that really puts the necessity of a 300cc machine out of the picture. 250ex as a beginner/intermediate quad, and not TOO big of a jump to the 400ex.

as for the 250 being basically a utility quad. it's almost the same thing as the Recon 250. the Recon is a 250ex with steel wheels, different plastics and racks. slightly different tuned suspension and brakes too, i believe.

side note:
the 300ex and the TRX90 are the last quads to still be manufactured in Japan...

[Mx_523]

Originally posted by KelOne333
side note:
the 300ex and the TRX90 are the last quads to still be manufactured in Japan...

Where are they being built?

[440exnacsracer]

there is one plant in south carolina, i am unsure of any others. also, will the 300ex and 90 be the only two produced in 08 or what? not for the 07s im assuming as the 450r still has a "J" series VIN

[440exnacsracer]

some utility hondas are to have the electric steering assist similar to the new yamaha grizzly 700. found that out today. honda claims to have invented the idea, but yamaha unvieled the 700 a week later,...soo....i highly doubt yamaha engineered and produced a unit 1 week after hondas release, but anyways, word is i will come on 07 rincons and rubicons, unsure of any others

[Jake250ex]

oh... WHOS GOOD?!?

[thenewpope]

wow the 07 300's really look alot better!!!!

[KelOne333]

dare i say it looks better than even the 450R?

[exrider008]

i wouldnt go that far and say it looks better then the 450

[Sjorge450R]

i just got back from the honda dealer and i couldnt help but look at the 250ex's. Since when do they have an oil cooler???wtf? Why doesnt the 300ex get one? I dont know, all I know is that Im getting a black 05 450R!:D

[AtvMxRider]

they are

[Sjorge450R]

Originally posted by AtvMxRider
they are

they are what? better looking?

[250ex13]

Originally posted by Mx_523
Just a side note, how is your 07 450r gone already, 250ex13? **** sorry ..didnt see this post.. Well my sisters been doing competive horse **** for a while and about 3 days after we had ordered the quad.. she had a championship like 3-4 hours away and she needed a trailer (horse trailers arnt cheap lol) so I was forced to cancle the order on the 450 ..so she could get a horse trailer..

[250exkid]

i have an 05 250ex DUUUH they have a oil cooler and the look better but i no for a fact that there just stopping for a year . but yea not totally sure

[bwamos]

I can't beleive this thread is still alive.. lol.

[QuadRider55]

Originally posted by Sjorge300EX
they are what? better looking?

srry i acsadentally got on his they are making a 07 300ex

[quadman 05400ex]

honda dumpin the old 300 would be bad cuase its probly still one of there top sellers

[QuadRider55]

Originally posted by thenewpope
wow the 07 300's really look alot better!!!!

yeah i know i want the plastic 4 one 2 put on my 06

[flash300ex]

So are they using the same motor in the 07. They probably changed the reverse setup also.

[AtvMxRider]

Originally posted by flash300ex
So are they using the same motor in the 07. They probably changed the reverse setup also.


Motor is the same just new plastic and a better reverse