The Future of Quads

[ShiftFMX]

What do you think will be the future of quads? Personally, I think motorwise, they have found the sweet spot, but it will be crazy to see what they will be like twenty years from now!

[mx428]

Hopefully the future of quads will be coming race ready stock like dirtbikes. I know the 450's are getting close, but you give a decent rider a crf450 and they can do anything. Without spending 20 grand on suspension and ****.

[450robot]

i think they are going in the right direction with the ltr450, but it needs some more motor out of the box

as for utes, i also think they are progressing nicely with quads like the bombardier 800 efi, tons of power mixed with technology

i just want to see more quads come with efi that can auto tune, or offer user tuning from the factory

and we need some new 250cc class quads that are worth riding, i dont mean like the 250ex, i mean a true manual motocross based 250 motor, with worthy suspension geometry (even if its detuned stock for beginers, it could still have potential)

[NorCalRacer]

EFI, hydraulic clutches and brakes. Hopefully engines that rev 20 grand:devil:

[400exrules]

they probably will advance FI to the point where it is a closed system like in a car, and it will adjust itself

[firefighterjosh]

Formula 1 Quads? 18,000rpm with 100 HP Stock:devil: :eek2:

[LTZ400rider]

definetly lighter stronger frames

carbon fiber parts, not including hoods and fenders

better braking systems

suspension

advanced computers and tuning

lighter stronger tires

lighter engine parts, titanium

more power output from smaller engines

if they came out with race ready dirtbikes they would be like 15 grand :eek2:

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by Kickstarts_Suck
if they came out with race ready dirtbikes they would be like 15 grand :eek2:

As opposed to a race ready quad that would be like $25000? The bikes are still much more competition ready off the floor than quads are even close too.

I think that a 250cc four-stroke race quad would be awesome!!!! That is definitely a step in the right direction. Other than that I think they need to work on making the prices cheaper, or at least offering more bang for the buck, like having your quad come with custom suspension from the factory.

[YFZ450Ridr]

i think aluminum frames and fuel injection for most quads will be the first step. then maybe a decent exhaust system from factory like bikes. they could probablly do so much with them from factory but with all the morons that buy them and get hurt they just keep toning them down.

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by LTZ400ridr
i think aluminum frames and fuel injection for most quads will be the first step. then maybe a decent exhaust system from factory like bikes. they could probablly do so much with them from factory but with all the morons that buy them and get hurt they just keep toning them down.

Cannondales already had aluminum frames and fuel injection, and no one wanted to pay the price for it. They were sweet quads, and its too bad they didn't lats longer. The reason they dont open them up is because emissions is cracking down hardcore! Its so easy for us to open up the engines ourselves and its relatively inexpensive, I would rather see more expensive stuff go on from the factory like the suspension components, beadlock wheels maybe, and other little things....

[400exrules]

yah, it would be nice if they came with beadlocks!

[firefighterjosh]

Originally posted by 400exrider707
Cannondales already had aluminum frames and fuel injection, and no one wanted to pay the price for it. They were sweet quads, and its too bad they didn't lats longer. The reason they dont open them up is because emissions is cracking down hardcore! Its so easy for us to open up the engines ourselves and its relatively inexpensive, I would rather see more expensive stuff go on from the factory like the suspension components, beadlock wheels maybe, and other little things....

C-dale is still around there just called ATK

[NorCalRacer]

Originally posted by firefighterjosh
C-dale is still around there just called ATK

And they haul ***:devil: Mine came stock with Ohlins suspension, hydraulic clutch and brakes, twin spar aluminum frame, efi and it revs 11,000. I think it is definitely a glimpse of the future.

[Bush0102]

levitation...like that air board in back to the future....now that would be cool.


but seriously, the european street legal scene will probably start heating up in the next few years as well.

[bwamos]

Originally posted by 400exrules
they probably will advance FI to the point where it is a closed system like in a car, and it will adjust itself

THey could now easily.. but you'd be adding weight, and disrupting exhaust flow with O2 sensors. I think keeping the sensors off is the best way to go. Tune it on the Dyno, then race it.

[trx400exxracer]

Originally posted by 450robot
i think they are going in the right direction with the ltr450, but it needs some more motor out of the box

as for utes, i also think they are progressing nicely with quads like the bombardier 800 efi, tons of power mixed with technology

i just want to see more quads come with efi that can auto tune, or offer user tuning from the factory

and we need some new 250cc class quads that are worth riding, i dont mean like the 250ex, i mean a true manual motocross based 250 motor, with worthy suspension geometry (even if its detuned stock for beginers, it could still have potential)

I agree with you

they should come out with frames the same size as the 450's except with 250 powerfull dirtbike like motors

then they could make quads like mx bikes have a 450 and 250 class

[Predatorguy88]

I think it would be cool to get some smaller quads, like 250's, that could actually go pretty good without dumping a bunch of money into it.

yea i wish mine was faster :ermm:

but it gets me places

[TacomaNC4X4]

they are gonna get so you wont be able to work on the motor unless you have a computer hookup. you will have to take it to the dealership just to change a plug. its already gettin that way. look at the new sportbikes..i work at a dealership..3.5 hours to change the plugs on a cbr1000

[thrasher_ex]

I think that the manufacturers will offer more options with each race oriented quad. Such as the HRC kit honda makes for the 450r. I think you will be able to order about anything for your quad you want that at different levels of performance all produced by the manufacturer. Everything including engine components and suspension. I think that would be awesome...A full race ready upgraded factory-produced bike.

what if it was like a car dealership and you could get them to order it from the factory with all kinds of options

[Mxjunkie]

I just want handling out of the box, the power of the 450s is fine, we need handling more then any other upgrade.

And I truley belive quads should come with nerfs STOCK.

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by Mxjunkie
I just want handling out of the box, the power of the 450s is fine, we need handling more then any other upgrade.

And I truley belive quads should come with nerfs STOCK.

Exactly, its already pretty fast, and its not that much harder or expensive to make it even more powerful.

And you ATK guys how much did that bike end up costing you? We need a bike like that, that costs what the 450s cost now!

Also the only downfall I see to the sweeet 250 quad class is that if they dont come race ready off the floor like we all want, then those of you who race two classes are dumping twice as much money!!! I know guys who race 125 and 250 dirtbike classes... how on earth could you afford to run two quad classes the 250 and 450 class? I can barely afford the one!!!

[trx400exxracer]

in sx some people just run the 125 and some run 250 cause you cant run both but at locals you can

[Iliketogofast]

Space and time-travel with handlebar mounted laser beams will be a factory option, if not standard.

[Predatorguy88]

Originally posted by Mxjunkie
I just want handling out of the box, the power of the 450s is fine, we need handling more then any other upgrade.

And I truley belive quads should come with nerfs STOCK. Nerfs should defintiely come stock.

[TheFontMaster]

I'm with Josh on the nerfs comming stock from the factory. I really don't want to see EFI making it onto all the new quads, personaly I hate it. And the 250cc high performance quads are what I think we need the most right now. The factories have done alot with thier utilities, and the 450's, but virtualy nothing with the quads that are around 250cc's.

[Mxjunkie]

The efi has it's ups and downs. Me personally I dont want to take my quad to a stealer ship to have a little china man from suzuki or who ever come and tune my quad and me have to pay him a ton of money. I'd rather look at my plugs and tune it my self.

[CHEVYZ]

Not a big fan of EFI either. I would also like to see a high performance 250cc quad class. I would have to say that I don't agree on stock nerfs, though. Personally, I hate them. Like everyone else I would like to see better handling from the factory, and agree that power is already good. I just would like to see them available with factory kits to make the quad perform like it would have before they "Softened" it up some.:scary:

[ilpadrino113]

an EFI option would be good. Being able to get any quad with EFI or carburated, depending on wants/needs of the owner. More factory options would be nice to see in the furure, like buying a new car.

[rmz250]

lamborgini motors and square tires

[juanki]

Originally posted by Bush0102
levitation...like that air board in back to the future....now that would be cool.


but seriously, the european street legal scene will probably start heating up in the next few years as well.

i belive the same. in europe quads ar so street orientated and there are a few that are now and are awsome. there is a swiss company that has an incredible quad, ther is a german manufacturer that has a 950 street legal quad polaris with its new street quad, and peugot has a quad with four electric or fuel cell motors. i'll post the pics.

[juanki]

this is a ktm 950 v-twin german bike

[juanki]

this is swiss

[Ruby Soho]

that doesnt even look like a quad

[juanki]

it is sweet

[juanki]

this is peugeot

[juanki]

#2

[juanki]

it is a prototype

[juanki]

called quark

[juanki]

and the polaris revolver

[juanki]

front, chek the fox shocks

[juanki]

i know that the US has a lot of regulations, hope to see them change and see this type of quads on the streets, that wold be sweet.

[juanki]

nobody has a coment on this kind of future that is already in development.

looks stupid but would be good for the road...i think they will eventually pur rotarty motors in quads and turbos and everythign else will come into play as well....i figure the ATV world is about 5-8 years behind the snowmoblies

anti lock brakes.

i also wanna see jack shaft drive train.

EFI should be OEM on everything.

I'm also betting striaght axles wont be made in 5 years.

[theTman]

nerfs stock...250 4 strokes (crf..kfx..etc in a 450 frame) i dont like efi...id rather stick with a carb. wide race ready quads, along the lines of a LTR

[MillerTime4187]

I'd really like to see KTM become a player in the ATV world. As awesome as their dirtbikes are it would be sweet to see what they could do w/ a quad.

[TheFontMaster]

Originally posted by the gangsta
anti lock brakes.

i also wanna see jack shaft drive train.

EFI should be OEM on everything.

I'm also betting striaght axles wont be made in 5 years.


I really doubt they will ever put anti lock brakes on quads, unless they start making street legal ones. And while drive shafts instead of chain drive would be more reliable, and easier to maintain it would make it so much harder to change gear ratios, and it would also be alot more expensive.