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quads14589
05-23-2006, 03:24 PM
ok so i wanna get bigger for football im about 6 foot and weigh like 205 and i wanna build up some more muscle. so i was wondering what is the best kinda stuff to build up more muscle not steriods. so tell me what kinda stuff is the best for building muscle..

gun32boarder
05-23-2006, 03:31 PM
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/likness2.htm
http://bodybuilding.com/fun/topicoftheweek67.htm

Read up and pick the one that you feel suites you best.

05-23-2006, 04:17 PM
I use No2... Its awesome I'm 6'4 230, play DE/LB.. I know alot of guys who take illegal performance enhancement drugs, I have a couple freinds that use steroids, but theyre good at football so I dont complain.. what year in school are you and what pos. u play, and what school you go to?

quads14589
05-23-2006, 04:36 PM
i play DE im a freshman but going onto JV and might have to play varsity.

05-23-2006, 04:48 PM
Im a junior and have been playing varsity since my Freshman year.. I play mostly LB but I play a little DE every once In a while. I got 2 team all-state last year.

Hondadudeehhhh
05-23-2006, 05:31 PM
Take cell tech. It is the best supplement i have taken yet. It's an advanced creatine, it taste good, and it's cheaper than most products. I wouldnt take anything unless you know what you are putting in your body. Do some research, ask people at GNC, then test something out for a month. I highly recomend cell tech over any other creatine based on the results i have gotten. I guarentee your bench will go up 15 pounds in 2 weeks. Make sure you are taking daily vietimens with any supplement, protein helps a ton, and LOTS of water! Drink until you feel full. My coaches don't like creatine or anything like it, their reasoning is we don't know the long term affects. Some coaches keep creatine in the weight room for players to use. So def wait until you know how your coaches feel about supplements until you let them see you taking it. Just work out 5 days a week, stretch, and keep a routine. You'll get bigger, faster, and stronger. You are already a big kid by the sounds of it

400exrules
05-23-2006, 05:36 PM
yah, along with the cell-tech or whatever you decide to take, get some whey protein to take with it also........and its extremely important that you drink lots of water

05-23-2006, 05:48 PM
I started taking No2 my freshman year early in the season because I was weak and embarrased to be in the weight room because our upperclassman are VERY strong we our a great football team, and I could only bench 105 my freshman year and I was 5'11 185 of pure nothing... I have taken No2 and I drink at least 120oz. of water a day. I am now 6'4 230 or so, and I can bench around 295. Creatine does nothing to your size though. But it will gain you 20 pounds at least but just work and make that 20 pounds all muscle.

quads14589
05-23-2006, 05:51 PM
then how did u gain all of this weight and benching weight?

05-23-2006, 05:56 PM
I worked out daily for football, 3 days a week and I took it before and after lifting, u never want to take No2 and not lift. Run or do something, I also ran 1 mile every morning before taking my No2, I gained 30 pounds in 1 month and benched 45 more in 1 month.

quads14589
05-23-2006, 06:00 PM
do u have AIM?

ELewandowski
05-23-2006, 08:47 PM
Use protien shakes with creatine, and take amino acids. You will get huge results, but dont take all this unless you workout regulary. I would stay away from any what i like to call "hyper pills", with ephedrine, not good for cardio activity, causes your heart rate to increase, and therefore, not safe for football.

Buy protein powder
creatine powder
Amino acid pills

Rico400
05-23-2006, 10:52 PM
dont take n02 without drinking the water. my buddy forgot, and he said it burned to piss. lol

MR.BIG
05-24-2006, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by 11crash11
I started taking No2 my freshman year early in the season because I was weak and embarrased to be in the weight room because our upperclassman are VERY strong we our a great football team, and I could only bench 105 my freshman year and I was 5'11 185 of pure nothing... I have taken No2 and I drink at least 120oz. of water a day. I am now 6'4 230 or so, and I can bench around 295. Creatine does nothing to your size though. But it will gain you 20 pounds at least but just work and make that 20 pounds all muscle.

What do you mean it does nothing to your size though? Of course it makes stronger and gives you more drive and it also makes you look bigger because you have more water in your muscles which make them look bigger. Creatine and a protein shake will make a huge improvement over time.

Rdhanded2
05-24-2006, 07:40 AM
There have been several threads about this even in the past month. As I have stated before, I fully believe that Creatine ethyl ester is the best creatine you can buy, and the only one you should use.

Read this. It should answer your questions.

Creatine Ethyl Ester Info And Products
Absorbed Better Than Regular Creatine Monohydrate!

What is it and where does it come from?

Creatine Ethyl Ester HCL (CEE) is creatine monohydrate with an ester attached. Esters are organic compounds that are formed by esterification - the reaction of carboxylic acid and alcohols.


What does it do and what scientific studies give evidence to support this?
Regular creatine monohydrate has been shown effective at increasing lean muscle mass1,2,3,4, muscle strength5,6 and athletic performance.7,8

However, regular creatine monohydrate is absorbed poorly by the body - and its effectiveness is dependant upon the cells ability to absorb it. The poor absorption rate of regular creatine monohydrate requires the creatine user to ingest large dosages of creatine to achieve desired effect.

Because creatine draws water to the cell, and because most ingested creatine monohydrate is not absorbed, unabsorbed creatine will sit outside of the target cell with the water, and this will result in the "creatine bloat."

Long-term clinical studies have proven that creatine monohydrate is safe for use by persons free of medical complication9, but why would you want to ingest more creatine monohydrate than you have to simply because your creatine is inefficient?

Creatine ethyl ester is creatine monohydrate with an ester attached. The attachment of an ester is significant, because esters are found in the fat tissue of animals. But, why is this important? What role does this have in the absorption of creatine?

All substances that you put into your body will affect its operation. There are three ways that substances can affect a cells operation. They are:

Ligand binding to protein receptor sites.
Secondary messenger / metabotropic systems
Passive permeation of the cell wall via lipids
When a substance enters the body and affects the bodies operation, it is known as a ligand. The soma and dendrites of the cell have protein receptor sites to which ligands can bind. The process of a ligand binding with a receptor site is akin to a lock and key: only keys of a certain shape work with certain locks. When they work and cause the cells stimulation they are called agonists. When they block the cell from functioning they are called antagonists.

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When a ligand binds with the receptor site of a target cell, the cell, in the simplest of cases, changes its shape, opens up its ion channels and changes its function. In so-called "secondary messenger" or metabotropic cells, the ligand binds with the receptor site and an internal protein known as a g-protein is released. This released protein then binds to an internal site inside of the cell, and then the cell changes its behavior by opening its ion channels. Cells that operate in this way are known as metabotropic cells because their operation requires metabolic energy.

Passive permeation is a process that describes the diffusion of a substance across a cell membrane through the use of lipids as transport mechanisms. Because no "work" is being done by the cell in this model, this model is called passive permeation.

Creatine monohydrate utilizes lipids to permeate the cell wall and enter the cell. Because of this, the esterification of creatine, and the presence of esters in animal fat tissue, becomes significant.

Creatine monohydrate is semi-lipopholic. This means that it inefficiently uses fat as a transport mechanism. The esterification of substances will increase their lipopholic abilities, and thus esterified creatine will use fat more efficiently to permeate the cell wall and exert its effects upon cellular function than its unesterified creatine monohydrate counterpart.

This means, simply, that not only will dosage requirements be lower, but the absorption of esterified creatine will be increased and the infamous "creatine bloat" will be eliminated!


Who needs it and what are some symptoms of deficiency?
Creatine Ethyl Ester can benefit persons of all ages, as it displays the same benefits as regular creatine monohydrate. Many multiple sclerosis patients are classified as creatine non-responders, but with the improved absorption seen with CEE this may not be the case.


Is Creatine Ethyl Ester real?
Much controversy has been generated over creatine ethyl ester. Companies and individuals with a financial interest in promoting creatine monohydrate products have attempted to discredit creatine ethyl ester. Some companies have even gone so far as to commission laboratory reports that show that creatine ethyl ester is not real.

Included with this page is one such report, and also included are two COA's - certificates of analysis - proving that creatine ethyl ester is real. These are included so that you, the consumer, can make up your own mind - so that you can base your choices upon the power of information.

The one report that states that creatine ethyl ester is fake was commissioned by an industry company with an interest in discrediting creatine ethyl ester. The two certificates of analysis included show that CEE is real and was done on raw source product and conducted by people with no financial interest in the promotion of creatine ethyl ester.

The esterification of creatine is chemically possible and not hard to conceive. Those who claim that CEE is fake are denying obvious science and are cheating the consumer.


How much should be taken? Are there any side effects?
Strictly adhere to label recommendations.

No side effects have been reported in scientific literature.

400exrules
05-24-2006, 10:12 AM
creatine ethyl ester is harder to come by tho......it seems like every supplement store is just chocked full of monohyrdrate

Rdhanded2
05-24-2006, 11:31 AM
NEVER buy from the store!!!!! They hike the prices up so far it is rediculous. I buy from www.bulknutrition.com They always have it.