AC Blackline owners

[Shindog]

Hey All!
I have a set of AC Blackline nerfs for my LTR and I have had the rear fender support break twice already! The first one broke after about 4 tripps to the track. It cracked right next to the weld were the tube welds to the flat bar near the sub frame. AC replaced it and then about 3 rides later I noticed the new one is cracking in the same spot! Has anyone else had this happen or know of someone who has had it happen? I am just trying to figure out if I got ahold of 2 bad ones or if this is more common? I ride Motor cross but not real hard and in case your wondering, I dont sit on the fenders;)
Please post your thoughts or if you have had the same issue.
Thanks

No problems with my blacklines so far, except the pegs seem a little high.

[armoks]

they are more expensive but I like the HEP's alot better they are holding up great!!

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[dg95]

I had the same thing happen so don't feel alone

[apollo]

Same thing after 1 race. We just duplicated them with round stock steel and have not had any problems

Dang Armoks, does that HEP go on a LTR or a tank?

[Shindog]

Yea, I like the HEP also but payed for these only 1 month ago! Dont realy want to spend more money just becouse AC cant get it right. I am going to try to build a case and see if they will iether redisighn them or just take the crap back! Keep the posts comming

[becci4]

i got ac stuff and it was the last time i never had nothing but problems with their stuff not fitting right or lasting so now i run rath wich is way nicer than ac

[CdaleXtreme]

Ive said it once and I will say it again.

www.RathRacing.com

unarguably the best nerfs on the market.

[INFANTRY RACING]

Originally posted by CdaleXtreme
Ive said it once and I will say it again.

www.RathRacing.com

unarguably the best nerfs on the market. unarguably the most overpriced and ugly nerfs on the market.

[CdaleXtreme]

Your opinon is basically worthless because you have zero experience with either Rath or AC, seeing how your quad is stock. Still, I ask you to please consider the following.

Considering you have to buy two sets of ACs to make it through one season, the Raths are cheaper.

How much mud do your AC Heel guards hold on a muddy day?

How many times do you have to sharpen your butter soft alluminum foot pegs?

I will try to swereve to avoid your AC that is laying on the track because all the brackets broke off, but I cant make any promises.

That $50.00 you saved is now wasted on your DNF

Looks like Rath comes out ahead again.

I Could keep this up all day :macho

[atvfrk10]

Ac Blacklines have a net for half of the heel guard so they dont hold any mud. The pegs are made of stainless steel so I doubt you'll have to sharpen them. And when has anyone's ACs ever fallen off. Plus they look better.

[Shindog]

I am disipointed in the AC blacklines becouse of the fender brackets and the crappy customer support at AC but the nerfs themself are built well (so far), they have replaceable SS foot pegs and they look good. sorry, but those Rath bars are UGLY.

[INFANTRY RACING]

Originally posted by CdaleXtreme
Your opinon is basically worthless because you have zero experience with either Rath or AC, seeing how your quad is stock. Still, I ask you to please consider the following.

Considering you have to buy two sets of ACs to make it through one season, the Raths are cheaper.

How much mud do your AC Heel guards hold on a muddy day?

How many times do you have to sharpen your butter soft alluminum foot pegs?

I will try to swereve to avoid your AC that is laying on the track because all the brackets broke off, but I cant make any promises.

That $50.00 you saved is now wasted on your DNF

Looks like Rath comes out ahead again.

I Could keep this up all day :macho wow you almost got me except the fact i've been racing quads for 8 years. have owned numerous ac products without any porblems. and the fact your a dumbass. have fun with those ugly as sin pieces of ****.

[JenniferRath]

Wow.. well I can say we designed our nerfs with the rider input we have received and the feedback from our customers, we build what they want.

It is very fair to say I am sure not everyone will dig our design- but the ones who do- I am glad THEY ARE happy with their purchases-

I find it kind of funny that AC now offers kind of a net heel guard...gee where did they get that idea:rolleyes:

To really get the right effect the whole heel guard needs to be net- there is a couple reasons why, mud build up is an advantage but the biggest advantage give the rider more control over foot placement as they ride and race-

[Shindog]

Well MR Infantry I dont care if you have been racing for 18 years. You are the dumbass for taking this so personally! Like Jennifer said "They dont expect everyone to like them" Im sure they are good nerfs and I never said they werent, I just dont like the way they look. I will be running the AC nerfs untill I iether want new ones or sell the bike. If you got a problem with that maybe you would like to call me a Dumbass to my face? And if you have been racing for 8 years then you must be what 12 now? Judging from your writing mentality.

[Shindog]

Sorry Infantry Racing, I mis read that post and thought I was being called a dumb *** for not liking the way the Rath bars look. I guess I really am the dumbass now:ermm: Sorry about that last post, I should have read it a little closer befor I fired that off. I guess I am stuck, I dont like the way the Rath looks and not happy with the fender brackets on the AC. Maybe I will look at the ProArmors.

[Pappy]

man, the only thing missing in here is the "my dad can beat up your dad" line:p


im not a fan of the netted heel gaurds....but i can see its advantages. heck im not a big fan of heel guards period....but im old school and have been on the dirt since before alot of you were but a worry in the backseat of a car:o


designs are changing, not everyone will like it but we do have choices and i applaud the newer companies for trying to make improvements.

[JenniferRath]

Pappy - please don't post how old we really are;) the car seat comment made me cringe! So are you saying 22 years on a race track qualifies us as "experienced"

The whole not liking a heelguard period- was one of the main thoughts behind this design- how to get the safety of a heelguard without the heavy get in the way solid one. We had so many riders tell us that they landed short or bobbled in the whoops and they couldn't get their boot far enough back on the peg to regain their balance- now they can.

It is right it is all about personal preference if everyone was going to only like one thing there would be no need for a Honda- Yamaha- Suzuki - etc. Everybody would be on exactly the same stuff!


I think the biggest advantages of Rath Racing products is our quality! We are not "Corporate America" and we do not sacrifice material to cut costs( meaning thinner wall tubing- cheap steel mounts- gap filled welding)- or ship stuff overseas to cut costs- we manufacture our products in house as if they were going on our personal race bikes- or our kids bikes- period!

Did you know?? We do offer our complete line of pro pegs nerfs without the net heelguard also!

[400excracer]

Get the Pro Armor nerfs. You wont be disappointed. They are the best set of nerfs I have ever had.

Originally posted by Shindog
Hey All!
I have a set of AC Blackline nerfs for my LTR and I have had the rear fender support break twice already! The first one broke after about 4 tripps to the track. It cracked right next to the weld were the tube welds to the flat bar near the sub frame. AC replaced it and then about 3 rides later I noticed the new one is cracking in the same spot! Has anyone else had this happen or know of someone who has had it happen? I am just trying to figure out if I got ahold of 2 bad ones or if this is more common? I ride Motor cross but not real hard and in case your wondering, I dont sit on the fenders;)
Please post your thoughts or if you have had the same issue.
Thanks


Shindog Funny thing I took a close look at mine and 1 side is broke, the other is cracked. These AC fender support brackets are a little weak.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by JenniferRath
Pappy - please don't post how old we really are;) the car seat comment made me cringe! So are you saying 22 years on a race track qualifies us as "experienced"

The whole not liking a heelguard period- was one of the main thoughts behind this design- how to get the safety of a heelguard without the heavy get in the way solid one. We had so many riders tell us that they landed short or bobbled in the whoops and they couldn't get their boot far enough back on the peg to regain their balance- now they can.

It is right it is all about personal preference if everyone was going to only like one thing there would be no need for a Honda- Yamaha- Suzuki - etc. Everybody would be on exactly the same stuff!


I think the biggest advantages of Rath Racing products is our quality! We are not "Corporate America" and we do not sacrifice material to cut costs( meaning thinner wall tubing- cheap steel mounts- gap filled welding)- or ship stuff overseas to cut costs- we manufacture our products in house as if they were going on our personal race bikes- or our kids bikes- period!

Did you know?? We do offer our complete line of pro pegs nerfs without the net heelguard also!

yep...i have checked out alot of your products and wouldnt have a problem running any of them.

im glad you know what im saying about heel gaurds...but i do agree that they offer protection, but with alot of these companies nerfs/heel gaurds you really do not know if they will hold up to protecting you or not it seems.

ive seen it all break...and i too have seen some of the short cuts taken by some manufactures that lead to failure....damn shame that safety has a price.

sorry about the backseat comment:devil:

[picow18]

Originally posted by JenniferRath
Pappy - please don't post how old we really are;) the car seat comment made me cringe! So are you saying 22 years on a race track qualifies us as "experienced"

The whole not liking a heelguard period- was one of the main thoughts behind this design- how to get the safety of a heelguard without the heavy get in the way solid one. We had so many riders tell us that they landed short or bobbled in the whoops and they couldn't get their boot far enough back on the peg to regain their balance- now they can.

It is right it is all about personal preference if everyone was going to only like one thing there would be no need for a Honda- Yamaha- Suzuki - etc. Everybody would be on exactly the same stuff!


I think the biggest advantages of Rath Racing products is our quality! We are not "Corporate America" and we do not sacrifice material to cut costs( meaning thinner wall tubing- cheap steel mounts- gap filled welding)- or ship stuff overseas to cut costs- we manufacture our products in house as if they were going on our personal race bikes- or our kids bikes- period!

Did you know?? We do offer our complete line of pro pegs nerfs without the net heelguard also!
I LOVE the way you guys designed your nerfs, I think they are perfect. I hate heel guards getting in my way but I also don't like the fact that at any second my foot may be ran over, so your heel guards are perfect and I can't wait to get a pair, and I also like the fact you guys take what the riders say and put it into your products. :D

[CdaleXtreme]

The fact that a representative of a company will post in an OPEN forum, speaks volumes.

AC racing, yeah they are on it. :rolleyes:

But I do encourage all of my competitors to run AC Nerf bars, along with works shocks. :blah:

[Pappy]

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[Shindog]

Finally heard back from AC, they finally have reconized there is a problem with there fender supports!:) Yeaaa! But they wont tell me what they intend to do about it?? They said they have redesighned them but when I e-mailed them back to ask if I could send in my broken ones for a new pair, no response! Day 2 now and no answer!! These guys really tick me off!!
If you have broken fender supports, and I know there are allot out there, contact them and letts hound the **ll out of them untill they make it right.

[becci4]

Originally posted by JenniferRath
The whole not liking a heelguard period- was one of the main thoughts behind this design- how to get the safety of a heelguard without the heavy get in the way solid one. We had so many riders tell us that they landed short or bobbled in the whoops and they couldn't get their boot far enough back on the peg to regain their balance- now they can.

It is right it is all about personal preference if everyone was going to only like one thing there would be no need for a Honda- Yamaha- Suzuki - etc. Everybody would be on exactly the same stuff!


I think the biggest advantages of Rath Racing products is our quality! We are not "Corporate America" and we do not sacrifice material to cut costs( meaning thinner wall tubing- cheap steel mounts- gap filled welding)- or ship stuff overseas to cut costs- we manufacture our products in house as if they were going on our personal race bikes- or our kids bikes- period!

Did you know?? We do offer our complete line of pro pegs nerfs without the net heelguard also! [/B]

well i never was a fan of heelguards myself i must say i thank rath for coming out with them at first i kinda was in the their ugly boat but i got over that and got a set and can say it was one of the best products i ever bought for my race bikes not to mention rath has the best service IMO. I would have had a snaped leg this weekend if it wasnt for rath. so my thanks go out to everyone at rath and keep up the good work

Nick Becci #41

[spanky101]

like said before... it speaks great volumes that a represenative of the company comes into an open forum to help... i for sure want to try some of rathes products, always have...

[becci4]

Originally posted by spanky101
like said before... it speaks great volumes that a represenative of the company comes into an open forum to help... i for sure want to try some of rathes products, always have...

ya rath is doing a great job on the sites and when you try their stuff you will be very happy with it you dont need to fight woth any of their stuff to get it on like you would with ac. i have a rath grab bar, bumper and nerfs and everything bolted up just fine and looks great. rath really knows their stuff

[Pro Armor]

I would have to agree with 400excracer not that I am biased or anything ;) On a more serious note our engineer completely redesigned our set of nerf bars to be correctly sized with the new LT-R450 and at the same time kept style in mind. We have also sent out many sets for countless hours of every form of riding to put these through nothing but abuse before anyone actually spends hard earned cash to put them on their quad. Like Jennifer said we all have different tastes and styles and that is why there is more than 1 company to choose from.

[coryatver]

I don't like nerf bars but I would like some heal guards that have a net. Does anyone know if anyone makes them? I have seen them on Brandon Sommers quad.

[ThrowinRoost89]

i agree with that the rath nerfs look like hell(hate the hell nets). i read about people having problems with all the companies, trying to get them to fit, so its not just AC nerfs that have a problem. AC just has weak fender supports, they will hopefully fix. i will be buying a set of AC propegs soon, maybe they will clear up the fender support issue by then

i have an 89 LT500, every single thing ive bought for it has not fit right, so im used to making things fit on my quads, i know its a pain in the *** tho.

[Shindog]

Good news Throwin! I got an e-mail from customer support at AC today. They said the new revised fender supports went out in the mail on 6-1-06, so I should see them soon. I'll let you know if they are any better?

P.S Dont buy the powder coated Blacklines, the cheap as* spray paint they use doesnt hold up at all!:mad:

[mxmike17]

I just wish they all would install the nets for you!

[CdaleXtreme]

Originally posted by mxmike17
I just wish they all would install the nets for you!

HAHAHA there is something we can all agree on!

Every nerf bar company would have to hire a full time employee just to do that! But I wouldnt complain.

[desertratt45]

i used to come on here alot but it always ended up being some kid whinning. i probably should check the boards more but find myself out racing more then reading the internet. the original fender brackets i made where a quick thought. at least ours came with them. i have heard some companys dont even supply them. we cut the sheet metal a little differnt to give it a little more matrial. i am hoping it works. if not we'll come up with some thing else. i was just tring to make some thing that wasnt big and bulky. my self, i come from the days of racing 3 wheelers so i have been around a long time. i have found that you cant make every one happy. this is whats so great with our country. you have choices! i can only hope you choose ours. if not its ok. but i always welcome input! oh and yes i work for ac and have been working here for 20 years. i like pappy have seen it all. lol!

[Tastykake Kid]

Quick question... Is it me or did my AC Pro-Pegs RAISE my footpeg location some?
I remember when I used to have to SPECIAL ORDER my MMF Pro-Pegs from Mike with the footpegs moved down & back an inch for my old 250R. (see, I go back too) Now it seems my new Pro-Pegs sit a little higher than the stockers. I absolutely love the new (to me) AC Pro-Peg design with stainless footpegs & 1/2 net. And mine went right on, honestly! I do remember in the past that almost all my bumpers would require a little screwdriver prying to get the holes to line up but these nerfs went on so simple! I just feel like the pegs are higher than the stockers. ???