octane boosters?

[panteramatt]

Anyone ever try the Kemco or Torco octane boosters? Check these sites out:

http://www.torco.com/cart.php

http://www.kemcooil.com/product_info.php?pId=61

[wilkin250r]

I don't know. The advertisements for octane boosters are kinda like the advertisements for cough drops. The cough drops claim to be able to get rid of a stuffy nose, sore throat, sneezing, coughing, headache, and everything else and make you feel like new. In reality, all they do is keep your throat moist because it's candy and causes you to salivate.

I don't trust advertisements for octane boosters.

[ryanh250ex]

if you're going to even attempt raising octane, do so by using toulene that you can buy at a nearby paint store.

[panteramatt]

But isnt toulene like $14 a gallon?

[panteramatt]

And these arent actually ocatne boosters but a concentrate.

[LT250RMan]

octane boosters dont work that well,, go buy the high octance gas like vp racing fuels or even 100LL Avation fuel

[panteramatt]

But Im not going to pay $10 a gallon!

[LT250RMan]

Then you are probaly going to cook your engine if you dont have the right octane,,, And octane booster are the worst way to increse your octane rating,,, Av Gas doent cost $10 a gallon, it way cheaper than vp racing fuels,,, If you dont want to spend money on the the right gas then dont ride something that uses high octane gas!!

[Raptor350yamaha]

Me and my nieghbor both put octane booster in our quads. his ran better mine didnt change. a few days later both of ours started running wierd. they would sputter alot. the sputtering hasnt stopped and its been almost 2 weeks. dont try it

[panteramatt]

But arent these concentrates different than the typical boosters?

[450rJam]

if you buy it in a plastic bottle it will not help in anyway at all.
if you think you need octain booster then get a proven name brand like klotz, if you buy it in larger quantity its a little cheaper.
If you use octain booster and your not running around 13:1 or better compression your most likely losing performance.

[wilkin250r]

I don't know the specifics of the Kemco or Torco octane boosters and how they are different, but there are two things I DO know.

They are significantly cheaper than actual race gas, which scares me right away. Race gas is expensive for a reason, those specific blends cost money. Any shortcut that is "less expensive" is most likely also "less quality".

These might be different that ordinary octane boosters, but I doubt it. And there's not a single ordinary octane booster product out there that I trust, they are ALL junk. About the only thing I would ever use, and ONLY in a pinch if I can't get a hold of proper race fuel and I NEEDED to get home, would be pure toluene. And only in an emergency. And that seems absurd, because I can't think of a single scenario in which I couldn't get my hands on race gas, but somehow I can find pure toluene.

[cals400ex]

toulene is somewhat over rated in my book. i say find some tetraethyl lead

[Moto250X_Rider]

lol...if u want a cheap octane boost and u don't like your quad u can alway put 2 moth balls in your tank....lol
there is all the boost u need and it will kill your motor cheaper than that crappy booster that u are looking into....go get some AV gass it's only 5.26 a gallon u don't even need to run just av gas u can mix it with some 90 or so octane 1\3 av-2\3 90 or so that will give u a boost but like others a said if your not running a high com setup it's a waste

[panteramatt]

Ok, I have a z400 with a 13.5 compression piston so yes I need about 100 octane. With that said, can you only get av gas at small airports cause there arent any around me. I was also told about this toluene and some other thinner that you can buy at the hardware store. Do these work and whats the cost?

[preddymoto]

Ever talked to your local fuel delivery guy?? I live on a farm and get my fuel from the delivery guy. Turbo Blue. the same stuff i buy for my race car. I pay 225-275 for 55 gallons depending on the fuel prices. It come out to be about 4.30/gallon give or take.

[cals400ex]

many of the gas companies use toulene to just get the premium fuels they sell up to 91 or 92 octane.

[cals400ex]

i have actually read good stuff about the kemco and torco products. however, i have tried neither myself.

[LT250RMan]

MAN, DONT CHEEP OUT YOU WILL COOK YOUR ENGINE,, BUY AV GASS (100LL) Dont go buy some cheep crap thats not even a octane booster you wont have a quad to ride for long you will take the crank out of your engine HAVE FUN

[panteramatt]

Trust me, if I could get av gas I would! I just think that spending $10 a gallon is crazy!

[preddymoto]

The fuel i get is 110 octane. 55 gallon drum at a time. no octane boost. i agree don't skimp when it comes to fuel. if you can't afford to run good fuel don't build quads that need it.

[panteramatt]

I bought a replacement engine with it already in it.:rolleyes:

[LT250RMan]

AV GAS IS NOT $10 A GALLON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[450rJam]

what would av gas do to a 06 450r with hrc kit ?
I live about 5 min from a small airport and a friend of mine runs it in a built banshee.
I prob. wont run it but I was wondering how it would run and what kind of damage could it cause if I did ?

[cals400ex]

i would run torco over av gas. the lead is very helpful

[preddymoto]

Originally posted by panteramatt
I bought a replacement engine with it already in it.:rolleyes:

So?? you gonna cook the motor cause your cheap?? wise thinking.

[panteramatt]

Im not cheap, just looking to see if this stuff works cause yes it would be cheaper and easier to get.

[ryanh250ex]

Originally posted by panteramatt
Im not cheap, just looking to see if this stuff works cause yes it would be cheaper and easier to get.


mate, i already told you. go to your nearest airport (there are several in very close vicinity to Salem , NJ) and get 100LL AVGAS!!

[john.E.business]

Okay well i don't know anything about this subject but i have an 05 450r and it says to run regular octane gas which is about 89-90 now the guy in the shop next to mine runs funny cars and got me some lucas octane booster... i put just abit in like maybe an oz or less in the tank... what would that do? didn't seem to do much if anything? my quad only has a pipe,k&n and dynojet as well....

[03blownupex]

Everyone keeps saying run av fuels but there is one problem it burns slower. Its not made for a continious change in rpms it is made to keep a constant rpm therefore it will not burn efficiently.

[boricua]

i thought the lead in some octane boosters just cooled the intake charge a bit and allowed it to take more heat or pressure. how true is that? maybe thats why that guy with the funny car runs it, probably doesnt have a radiator and needs all the cooling he can get.

just throwing 2 pennies in......:ermm:

[cals400ex]

oh, lead is definatly good. it does cool. not all leads are created equal. i honestly would not have a problem running either one of those "octane boosters" listed at the top of this thread.

[chad502ex]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
I don't know. The advertisements for octane boosters are kinda like the advertisements for cough drops. The cough drops claim to be able to get rid of a stuffy nose, sore throat, sneezing, coughing, headache, and everything else and make you feel like new. In reality, all they do is keep your throat moist because it's candy and causes you to salivate.

I don't trust advertisements for octane boosters.

LOL.

i hear ya. All I use is trolene (sp) or acetone.

both work better than those auto parts boosters.

read this!

http://www.turbofast.com.au/racefuel.html

[LT250RMan]

Originally posted by 03blownupex
Everyone keeps saying run av fuels but there is one problem it burns slower. Its not made for a continious change in rpms it is made to keep a constant rpm therefore it will not burn efficiently.

What do you mean runs lower? Lower what??,, Your wrong about the rpm stuff you said, i know lots of people that use av in snowmobiles and quads and cars and it works JUST FINE. Its 100 octane on the lean side and can be up to 130 octane on the rich side of jetting!!! So whats the problem?

[03blownupex]

Originally posted by LT250RMan
What do you mean runs lower? Lower what??,, Your wrong about the rpm stuff you said, i know lots of people that use av in snowmobiles and quads and cars and it works JUST FINE. Its 100 octane on the lean side and can be up to 130 octane on the rich side of jetting!!! So whats the problem?

I didn't say it runs lower I said it burns slower. It is not going to burn efficiently it does not burn off completely. Yeah for the most part you won't be able to tell, but when you have to replace your piston you will notice a lot of dings on top of your piston from where the av fuel didn't burn off.