i cant belive the gas prices

[quads14589]

well here a gallon of gas is around 2.60 i think and for diseal is like 2.85 and every weekend in the summer we go down to rhode island to go fishging so thats going to be cut in half because of the gas prices! i cant stand it what r they around u guys??

[jason43050]

Originally posted by quads14589
well here a gallon of gas is around 2.60 i think and for diseal is like 2.85 and every weekend in the summer we go down to rhode island to go fishging so thats going to be cut in half because of the gas prices! i cant stand it what r they around u guys?? thats a bargain... here in ohio its this is for the cheap stuff - 2.80+ a gal. pure BS!

PREMIUM IS $3.07 around here.

But I remember last year when I was in Hawaii the gas was almost $4. So it can be worse.:rolleyes:

[omaits]

Originally posted by sinister450
PREMIUM IS $3.07 around here.

But I remember last year when I was in Hawaii the gas was almost $4. So it can be worse.:rolleyes:

it could be worse....it could also be alot better.

[punker69q]

Consider yourself lucky, we have to pay ~4.00 $ can/ 3.50$ us for 87 octane here in montreal and it will raise this summer

[mxdad]

2.75 for 87 in Maryland this morning :mad:

[Ripitupfilms]

yup 2.80 in harrisburg.. luckly i skewl is only 1 mile away

[quads14589]

i dont even drive yet im turing 15 in like 1 month. but were planning on buying a brute force and them things r gas guzzlers.

[MR.BIG]

Northern jersey is $2.59!

Grab your wallet, its gonna get worse. I bet it will close in on $4 a gallon this summer.

[jaredZ400rider]

$2.77 a gallon here..thanks god i dont drive and i can go almost a day and a half on 1 tank of gas in my Z.

[Mxjunkie]

It sucks, I have to run 94 atleast in the banshee and if I ride alot i use 5 gallons in 2 days no problem.

[jiffers]

you lot got it so good a gallon of diesel here in the uk works out about $7.50 and about $7 for petrol no bull****

Originally posted by jiffers
you lot got it so good a gallon of diesel here in the uk works out about $7.50 and about $7 for petrol no bull****

sucks for u :blah:

i saw 2.59 yesterday...

[NorCalRacer]

OVER $3 AGAIN IN CA. I PUT A 6 CYL IN MY WORK TRUCK, MAYBE NEXT YEAR SWITCH TO A 4-BANGER...:mad:

[Trevor]

we have to pay 1.12.9 a litre here in halifax

gas is pure BS...i saw on the news that they discovered more oil in Cananda, and they r going to be shipping it over to Aisa before the US...lets drill the great lakes and Alaska already!...the tree huggers are getting rid of my 2 strokes, now they are part of the reason gas is so high

[antman]

gas prices are just rediculas...

[ilpadrino113]

What the companies do is they jack up the price like $.40 real fast and then lower it by $.20 so everyones happy that the prices are goin down and they complain as much even tho it is still $.20 higher than before. The companies realize they can basically charge what they want and people will still pay. gov't definitely needs to get involved somehow.

[quads14589]

this summers prices r going to be outragious

[rmz250]

Last week my Mom paid 1.83/ gallon. The Tops gas stations give you points if you buy your food there and you can deduct the points at there gas station.

[quads14589]

wow that effin cheap!

[400exchick]

Ours is higher than the U.S. but not as bad as the UK.
$4.046/gallon for 87octane. Will only hike as the weeks go by:mad: last year it sat at around $4.731/gallon for a good 3-4 months.. we're expected to see the same thing happen this year if not higher:(

Really depressing when you have to drive to work mon-fri.. (1hour drive minimum).

[NorCalRacer]

Originally posted by rmz250
Last week my Mom paid 1.83/ gallon. The Tops gas stations give you points if you buy your food there and you can deduct the points at there gas station.

SOUNDS TOO GOOD, MUST BE PRETTY BAD FOOD:rolleyes:

[RaptorRacer45]

Sucks worse when u gotta use that much more money for a 6 hour Trip home and back:grr: .....WTF did we blow up or do to the Towlheads now, this **** just pisses me off......Why cant America just deal w\ there problems and let the "Desert" the way it is, if they wanna blow themselves up let em,,,,, lets get our guys the Hell out!:mad:

[PismoLocal]

gas is 3.08 here

[rmz250]

Originally posted by NorCalRacer
SOUNDS TOO GOOD, MUST BE PRETTY BAD FOOD:rolleyes:

Yea, we favor bad food. :rolleyes:

you guys got nothing to complain about!!!!!

here is is a 109.9 a LITER for regular....translated $4.15 a gallon.

[1fst400]

gas is about 10$ a galon for my quad. which isnt bad on race day, I use all of about 1/2 galon. But I like to get at least 2 hours in every day riding, prefered on the track for practice. But doesent really matter, just getting in seat time. I go throu 8 galons per week easy.

and for 87 for my car I think Im payin somewheres of 2.70$.

I pay 10 to get to the track 10 to fill up the gas cans and 10 for 2 stroke oil. :D every time i wanna ride

[JRP]

2.86 here in fredericksburg

[aviator4]

$2.55 here in okalahoma, which isn't too bad I guess.

What kills me is how all of the energy companies are now mysteriously posting "record profits" every quarter. Bunch of rich *******s.

At this point I'd welcome back Government Energy Regulation.

Greedy people suck!

Drill alaska and boil up the tree huggers, we'll figure out a way to use 'em for fuel. Might as well throw them PETA freaks in while you're at it.

Tree huggin' protestors should have their cars crushed.

I hope they all rot in hell.

[Sjorge450R]

i think we are at like 2.68 here, outside Philly.

[Giz400ex]

Well, what they are saying is if you can remember what the prices were last summer, add on 25 cents and thats your summer price for 2006:mad:

[ZeroLogic]

$2.69 in Milford Pa this morning.:grr: :mad: :chinese: :ermm:

I cant express how pissed off i am sitting here right now, you ppl in the us *****ing bout your prices, we would kill for those here.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[PismoLocal]

I sold my Lifted 4x4 chevy tahoe for a 4 banger Tacoma because of gas prices. It was pretty emotional for me :(

[quads14589]

we have a f350 diseal it cost alot to fill her up:mad:

[Hon300ex]

Originally posted by banshee91
I cant express how pissed off i am sitting here right now, you ppl in the us *****ing bout your prices, we would kill for those here.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

are prices arent good, there just better then yours.

[Ghost-Rider]

Yea heres it $2.80+ for reg (like 87 octane) and $3.00 + for 97 octane....... and wtf how and why did disel go up ? used to allways be cheaper and better but nows it went way up and also goverment will and does step in member after katrina ? was $3.00+ for regular and jsut magically went to like $2.20 or so ...... they do step in after a whie but of course they let it go reallllllllll high.............also.... touch my great lakes and i kill you.....and their already drilling alaska and USA is i belvie 2nd largest oil producer

and yea isnt there a bunch of crap in the artic shield or w/e in canada but hasnt been drilled cause climate and nobody lives there.... i have a feeling canada is gonna hit big with that stuff one day

[EvilMaximus]

$2.75 gal 87...$64 to fill up the Silverado crewcab...gota love the 16mpg... :)

[zeppelin]

Originally posted by NorCalRacer
OVER $3 AGAIN IN CA. I PUT A 6 CYL IN MY WORK TRUCK, MAYBE NEXT YEAR SWITCH TO A 4-BANGER...:mad: if the 4 banger doesnt work out, just hire some illegal immigrants to push.

[PismoLocal]

Originally posted by zeppelin
if the 4 banger doesnt work out, just hire some illegal immigrants to push.

The reason thats funny is because its realistic lmao

Originally posted by Ghost-Rider
their already drilling alaska and USA is i belvie 2nd largest oil producer





thats bullsh1t!!

[Iliketogofast]

3 bucks a gallon for regular here! We have prices just as bad as Cali!

Ridiculous!

[trx450jason]

Originally posted by quads14589
we have a f350 diseal it cost alot to fill her up:mad:

I probably don't want to know but I have to ask, how much?

[300ex_#387]

Originally posted by Iliketogofast
3 bucks a gallon for regular here! We have prices just as bad as Cali!

Ridiculous!

Were at $2.72 right now. Usually when you guys go up were at your price 2 weeks later...so I guess I know what to expect this week...

[Sjorge450R]

Originally posted by Ghost-Rider
Yea heres it $2.80+ for reg (like 87 octane) and $3.00 + for 97 octane....... and wtf how and why did disel go up ? used to allways be cheaper and better but nows it went way up and also goverment will and does step in member after katrina ? was $3.00+ for regular and jsut magically went to like $2.20 or so ...... they do step in after a whie but of course they let it go reallllllllll high.............also.... touch my great lakes and i kill you.....and their already drilling alaska and USA is i belvie 2nd largest oil producer

and yea isnt there a bunch of crap in the artic shield or w/e in canada but hasnt been drilled cause climate and nobody lives there.... i have a feeling canada is gonna hit big with that stuff one day

we cant even buy 97. Its 87 91 and 93

[fast_enough]

Originally posted by quads14589
i dont even drive yet im turing 15 in like 1 month. but were planning on buying a brute force and them things r gas guzzlers.

Haha, wait until you start driving a vehicle.

"Gas ain't too high, I just burn too much"
Thats my motto

[wckedclownz69]

wow i remmeber back in the day where u could tak $5 and fill up your whole tank...damn miss thos days.. no one *****ed about quads either...

[TacomaNC4X4]

you notice how it goes up every summer? its a bunch of BILL****!!!! they come up with any excuse they can to rise the prices

[JIMTED79]

I just filled my full size chevy up this morning in SO. CAL. $2.89 a gallon for 87 octane. I got this e-mail that said to stop buying EXXON-MOBIL gas because they are the biggest and making the most profit. It makes sence to me they hit us we hit them back until they come down so **** EXXON-MOBIL till then.:devil:

[TacomaNC4X4]

i work at a exxon and im gonna stop gettin gas there...but heres the e-mail i got:

Im up for trying anything... Are you?





THIS MAKES SENSE. LETS ALL GET TOGETHER AND DO IT!

GAS WAR

It's worth your consideration and this idea could really work!!!


Join the resistance!!!! I hear we are going to
hit close to $ 4.00 a gallon by next summer and it might
go higher!! Want gasoline prices to come down? We
need to take some intelligent, united action.

Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea. This makes
MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain
day" campaign that was going around last April or May!
The oil companies just laughed at that because they
knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by
refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience
to us than it was a problem for them.


By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at
about $1.50 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently
$2.79 for regular unleaded in my town. Now that the
oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us
to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at
$1.50 - $1.75, we need to take aggressive action to
teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace..not
sellers. The only way were going to see the price of gas come down is if we
hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their
gas! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.
How?

Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T
purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies
(which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not
selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their
prices. If they reduce their prices, the other
companies will have to follow suit. But to have an
impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon
and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do!

Heres how:

I am sending this note to over 30 people. If each of us
send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ... and
those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 =
3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches
the sixth group of people, we will have reached over
THREE MILLIO N consumers.

If those three million get excited and pass this on to
ten friends each, then 30 million people will have
been contacted! If it goes one level further, you
guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people.
That's all!

How long would all that take? If each of us sends
this e-mail out to ten more people within one day of
receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be
contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you
didn't think you and I had that much potential, did
you! Acting together we can make a difference.

If this makes sense to you, please pass this message
on. I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL UNTIL
THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO TH E $1.30 RANGE AND KEEP
THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK!!!!!

[stalefish_132]

its $ 1.08 a litre here for 87oct and 94oct is $1.20 a litre. so just a quick figure its $4.40 cents a gallon for 87 and $4.80 for 94. thats not exact but fairly close.
are you guys complain about $2.80 a gallon:rolleyes:

[mole97]

White Plains ,New York 3.30 a gallon for super....time to sell the ole 2500 . :mad:

[250R-Dee]

I got everybody beat.

Out in Town 110yen per liter for 100RON (~95 octane)
1gallon = 3.785 liters
$4.16/gal

It's been this way for years. I have been spending $50 for a full tank of gas in my car since '95. I guess I've gotten accustomed to the price. Every once in a while the gas companies will have a lowest price war and the price will drop to 50yen (less than $0.50)/per liter.

On the base military base = $2.30/gal
A lot of the tanks on base are nasty (rusty, have water leaks, ...etc) and they just got high Octane (100RON).

[DieselBoy]

just think everytime the price of fuel climbs so does everything else. my truck is pretty decent on fuel, I can get diesel for 89.9 usually meanwhile at a regular pump it's selling for $96.9+ but i keep quiet about it because i dont want to get people fuming.

someday, soon, fuel will be __too__ expensive, what then? soon it will be "nah man, we can't go camping, we don't got $270 to put in the car!"

meanwhile the goverment is collecting the TAXXXXXXXX, saying "those f... morons !!"

[hondarider2006]

on wednesday one of the places has $.10 off...so its in the $2.30s...the place about 1/2 mile down the road from me is at $2.59:mad:

[Johnny & Monica]

Check the gas prices out in your zip. here before filling up :D
1.98 for the lowest in ID. HIGHEST in 3.47 in Hi.

http://autos.msn.com/everyday/gasstations.aspx?zip=&src=Netx

[JIMTED79]

Originally posted by stalefish_132
its $ 1.08 a litre here for 87oct and 94oct is $1.20 a litre. so just a quick figure its $4.40 cents a gallon for 87 and $4.80 for 94. thats not exact but fairly close.
are you guys complain about $2.80 a gallon:rolleyes:

You can't touch SO CALS traffic up there so maybe when its $10.00 a gallon up there you'll be close to what we spend down here!!!

[Atkins]

Originally posted by sinister450
PREMIUM IS $3.07 around here.

But I remember last year when I was in Hawaii the gas was almost $4. So it can be worse.:rolleyes:

You can only drive so far in Hawaii though, so Im sure they dont feel it too badly.

Average MA price is 2.68 right now, and is expected to climb to 3.30 by July.:mad:

im gunna hijack a fuel tanker and park it in my yard with camo netting over it and then ill be laughing.


im seriously suprised those truck drivers arnt armed with machine guns, with the price of there cargo.

[DieselBoy]

Originally posted by DIFCO.
im gunna hijack a fuel tanker and park it in my yard with camo netting over it and then ill be laughing.


im seriously suprised those truck drivers arnt armed with machine guns, with the price of there cargo.

LOL!!

[quads14589]

have a fun time then. haha

[Hon300ex]

i went down to south jersey today and i saw 2.47 for regular:devil: you know my dad filled up his ram:blah: !

[jason43050]

just went up to 2.87 here was 2.79

i should buy like 500 gallons now to get me through the summer before it goes up

[coolex]

Originally posted by Atkins
You can only drive so far in Hawaii though, so Im sure they dont feel it too badly.

Average MA price is 2.68 right now, and is expected to climb to 3.30 by July.:mad:

ya its like the same in souther nh were im at

and my 11 mpg 98 i-6 isnt cutting it ne more

[A A R O N]

I drive a little Toyota Paseo that gets me 38mpg and i still hate the gas prices. You know what pisse s me off though is in my town theres 3 gas stations. A citgo, and mobil and this little tiny family owned one. All 3 stations have the same exact prices, except the little family owned one has about 6 workers that THEY pay to stand outside and pump your gas for you and wash your windows. Now, tell me this.....if those workers ended up losing them money on the whole deal, they wouldn't have them. So, if a FAMILY owned business can afford to pay extra for our benefit and still turn a profit, how can the larger places justify the same exact prices, without paying near as much for customer service:mad: Looks like im throwing away the hybrid 400ex idea and puting the money toward a hybrid car. I better not be fu c kkkking middle age and riding around on an electric quad instead of my 250r:grr:

[mxdad]

Originally posted by TacomaNC4X4
i work at a exxon and im gonna stop gettin gas there...but heres the e-mail i got:

Im up for trying anything... Are you?


THIS MAKES SENSE. LETS ALL GET TOGETHER AND DO IT!

GAS WAR

It's worth your consideration and this idea could really work!!!


Join the resistance!!!! I hear we are going to
hit close to $ 4.00 a gallon by next summer and it might
go higher!! Want gasoline prices to come down? We
need to take some intelligent, united action.

Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea. This makes
MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain
day" campaign that was going around last April or May!
The oil companies just laughed at that because they
knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by
refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience
to us than it was a problem for them.


By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at
about $1.50 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently
$2.79 for regular unleaded in my town. Now that the
oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us
to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at
$1.50 - $1.75, we need to take aggressive action to
teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace..not
sellers. The only way were going to see the price of gas come down is if we
hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their
gas! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.
How?

Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T
purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies
(which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not
selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their
prices. If they reduce their prices, the other
companies will have to follow suit. But to have an
impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon
and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do!

Heres how:

I am sending this note to over 30 people. If each of us
send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ... and
those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 =
3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches
the sixth group of people, we will have reached over
THREE MILLIO N consumers.

If those three million get excited and pass this on to
ten friends each, then 30 million people will have
been contacted! If it goes one level further, you
guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people.
That's all!

How long would all that take? If each of us sends
this e-mail out to ten more people within one day of
receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be
contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you
didn't think you and I had that much potential, did
you! Acting together we can make a difference.

If this makes sense to you, please pass this message
on. I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL UNTIL

THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO TH E $1.30 RANGE AND KEEP
THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK!!!!!


Read this!!!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp

Claim: Boycotting a couple of gasoline brands will bring overall gas prices down.

Status: False.


Origins: This year's litany of complaints about gasoline prices is a re-run of the same program from years past: Gasoline prices in the USA are too high; gasoline is a unique commodity whose price isn't subject to the usual market forces of supply and demand; OPEC and greedy American oil companies secretly manipulate the market to keep prices artificially high; and a simple boycott of a couple of brands of gasoline will rectify all
this.

Oil companies can manipulate their prices somewhat by controlling how much gasoline they produce and where they sell it, but they can't alter the basics of supply and demand: prices go down when people buy less of a good, prices go up when people buy more of a good, and prices go way up when demand outstrips available supply. The "gas out" schemes that propose to alter the demand side of the equation by shunning one or two specific brands of gasoline for a while won't work, however, because they're based on the misconception that an oil company's only outlet for gasoline is its own branded service stations. That isn't the case: gasoline is a fungible commodity, so if one oil company's product isn't being bought up in one particular market or outlet, it will simply sell its output to (or through) other outlets:
Economics Prof. Pat Welch of St. Louis University says any boycott of "bad guy" gasoline in favor of "good guy" brands would have some unintended (and unhappy) results.

. . . Welch says the law of supply and demand is set in stone. "To meet the sudden demand," he says, "the good guys would have to buy gasoline wholesale from the bad guys, who are suddenly stuck with unwanted gasoline."

So motorists would end up . . . paying more for it, because they'd be buying it at fewer stations.

And yes, oil companies do buy and sell from one another. Mike Right of AAA Missouri says, "If a company has a station that can be served more economically by a competitor's refinery, they'll do it."

Right adds, "In some cases, gasoline retailers have no refinery at all. Some convenience-store chains sell a lot of gasoline — and buy it all from somebody else's refinery."
A boycott of a couple of brands of gasoline won't result in lower overall prices. Prices at all the non-boycotted outlets would rise due to the temporarily limited supply and increased demand, making the original prices look cheap by comparison. The shunned outlets could then make a killing by offering gasoline at its "normal" (i.e., pre-boycott) price or by selling off their output to the non-boycotted companies, who will need the extra supply to meet demand. The only person who really gets hurt in this proposed scheme is the service station operator, who has almost no control over the price of gasoline.

The only practical way of reducing gasoline prices is through the straightforward means of buying less gasoline, not through a simple and painless scheme of just shifting where we buy it. The inconvenience of driving less is a hardship too many people apparently aren't willing to endure, however

[MOFO]

Originally posted by TacomaNC4X4
i work at a exxon and im gonna stop gettin gas there...but heres the e-mail i got:

Im up for trying anything... Are you?





THIS MAKES SENSE. LETS ALL GET TOGETHER AND DO IT!

GAS WAR

It's worth your consideration and this idea could really work!!!


Join the resistance!!!! I hear we are going to
hit close to $ 4.00 a gallon by next summer and it might
go higher!! Want gasoline prices to come down? We
need to take some intelligent, united action.

Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea. This makes
MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain
day" campaign that was going around last April or May!
The oil companies just laughed at that because they
knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by
refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience
to us than it was a problem for them.


By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at
about $1.50 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently
$2.79 for regular unleaded in my town. Now that the
oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us
to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at
$1.50 - $1.75, we need to take aggressive action to
teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace..not
sellers. The only way were going to see the price of gas come down is if we
hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their
gas! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.
How?

Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T
purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies
(which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not
selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their
prices. If they reduce their prices, the other
companies will have to follow suit. But to have an
impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon
and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do!

Heres how:

I am sending this note to over 30 people. If each of us
send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ... and
those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 =
3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches
the sixth group of people, we will have reached over
THREE MILLIO N consumers.

If those three million get excited and pass this on to
ten friends each, then 30 million people will have
been contacted! If it goes one level further, you
guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people.
That's all!

How long would all that take? If each of us sends
this e-mail out to ten more people within one day of
receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be
contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you
didn't think you and I had that much potential, did
you! Acting together we can make a difference.

If this makes sense to you, please pass this message
on. I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL UNTIL
THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO TH E $1.30 RANGE AND KEEP
THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK!!!!!


Only people who do not understand economics and have very little education actually think this will work.

[jason43050]

Originally posted by MOFO
Only people who do not understand economics and have very little education actually think this will work. i 2nd that! it wouldn't work anyway. they got so much $$ you think one day of noone buying gas is going to kill them? nope! you'd be lucky just to get 1/4 of your town to participate, let alone the whole usa. just isn't practical

[Iliketogofast]

Originally posted by mxdad
Read this!!!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp

Claim: Boycotting a couple of gasoline brands will bring overall gas prices down.

Status: False.


Origins: This year's litany of complaints about gasoline prices is a re-run of the same program from years past: Gasoline prices in the USA are too high; gasoline is a unique commodity whose price isn't subject to the usual market forces of supply and demand; OPEC and greedy American oil companies secretly manipulate the market to keep prices artificially high; and a simple boycott of a couple of brands of gasoline will rectify all
this.

Oil companies can manipulate their prices somewhat by controlling how much gasoline they produce and where they sell it, but they can't alter the basics of supply and demand: prices go down when people buy less of a good, prices go up when people buy more of a good, and prices go way up when demand outstrips available supply. The "gas out" schemes that propose to alter the demand side of the equation by shunning one or two specific brands of gasoline for a while won't work, however, because they're based on the misconception that an oil company's only outlet for gasoline is its own branded service stations. That isn't the case: gasoline is a fungible commodity, so if one oil company's product isn't being bought up in one particular market or outlet, it will simply sell its output to (or through) other outlets:
Economics Prof. Pat Welch of St. Louis University says any boycott of "bad guy" gasoline in favor of "good guy" brands would have some unintended (and unhappy) results.

. . . Welch says the law of supply and demand is set in stone. "To meet the sudden demand," he says, "the good guys would have to buy gasoline wholesale from the bad guys, who are suddenly stuck with unwanted gasoline."

So motorists would end up . . . paying more for it, because they'd be buying it at fewer stations.

And yes, oil companies do buy and sell from one another. Mike Right of AAA Missouri says, "If a company has a station that can be served more economically by a competitor's refinery, they'll do it."

Right adds, "In some cases, gasoline retailers have no refinery at all. Some convenience-store chains sell a lot of gasoline — and buy it all from somebody else's refinery."
A boycott of a couple of brands of gasoline won't result in lower overall prices. Prices at all the non-boycotted outlets would rise due to the temporarily limited supply and increased demand, making the original prices look cheap by comparison. The shunned outlets could then make a killing by offering gasoline at its "normal" (i.e., pre-boycott) price or by selling off their output to the non-boycotted companies, who will need the extra supply to meet demand. The only person who really gets hurt in this proposed scheme is the service station operator, who has almost no control over the price of gasoline.

The only practical way of reducing gasoline prices is through the straightforward means of buying less gasoline, not through a simple and painless scheme of just shifting where we buy it. The inconvenience of driving less is a hardship too many people apparently aren't willing to endure, however


Bull****.

[JIMTED79]

Originally posted by jason43050
i 2nd that! it wouldn't work anyway. they got so much $$ you think one day of noone buying gas is going to kill them? nope! you'd be lucky just to get 1/4 of your town to participate, let alone the whole usa. just isn't practical

You sound like the uneducated one right now, Where did you see not to buy gas for a day in this thread? As for it not hurting mobil I don't know, if it only happened for a short time that would make sense in them not being hurt. If it where to happen for a long time then what would happen? Why would the smaller guys buy gas from them at a bloated price, would it not make sense in time to find or build your own soure and force the big dog to scramble? I laugh at people that think its simple economics and thats it, Its a problem and it can be fixed.

[PismoLocal]

I already dealt with the high gas prices, i bought a 88 honda civic to commute and drive around town in and then i sold my lifted chevy tahoe for a Tacoma. at 3.15 a gallon it still only costs me $26 to fill up the tank in my civic. I commute 60 miles round trip a day and i can commute 6 days on a full tank doin the speed limit. On the weekends i take out my truck and go to the beach or the lake or somethin. Im 19 and the insurance on my civic is only $360 a year and i only spent $500 to buy it. Commuting in my tahoe it cost me about $20-$25 every day just in gas. If some of you guys can afford it you should put your pride away and buy a pos/beater to drive/commute in. Dont get me wrong driving the civic sucks but every time i go to the gas station it reminds me of why i bought the piece of junk in the first place.

[Iliketogofast]

Lol... ghetto cruisin w/ the civic.

I'm not that worried about gas. It pisses me off, but wtf am I going to do about it? My Mustang only gets like 10 mpg but wtf. I'm not selling it and buying some little ****box 4 banger to save 20 bucks a week.

[PismoLocal]

Ya it is ghetto cruisin, but it doesnt save me $20 a week, It saves me a little over $20 every time i commute and i work 4 days a week so we're talkin like $80 week. Plus im not puttin mileage on my truck. Ill post some pics of the hondy it really is the biggest piece of junk ever. Salvage titled & 230k miles its a beautiful thing :D

[jason43050]

Originally posted by JIMTED79
You sound like the uneducated one right now, Where did you see not to buy gas for a day in this thread? As for it not hurting mobil I don't know, if it only happened for a short time that would make sense in them not being hurt. If it where to happen for a long time then what would happen? Why would the smaller guys buy gas from them at a bloated price, would it not make sense in time to find or build your own soure and force the big dog to scramble? I laugh at people that think its simple economics and thats it, Its a problem and it can be fixed. ok so i worded it wrong. " don't buy gas from the 2 biggest companies" noone is going to do that, you and i both know that..its to inconvenient for someone to drive to the other side of town to not go to a exon/mobile gas station,and people just won't do it. plus how many millions of people that don't have a computer or internet that won't see the message. governments going to have to fix it..
.. so if you think you can fix the problem fix it.... i'd like to see it..

[JIMTED79]

Yeah your right I'll just wait for bush to fix it:rolleyes: I'm not saying I can solve the problem but if you dont think the people can't fix it your crazy. You sound like and oil company CEO.

[DieselBoy]

PLAIN AND SIMPLE: GOVERMENT FUEL ***TAX*** FOR YOU BLIND FOLK IS A HUGE PERCENT OF THE FUEL COST AT THE STATION. THE GOVERMENT ISN'T GOING TO FIX JACK SH... THEY ARE LOVING EVERY MINUTE OF IT.

SO BRAINWASHED, GOD!!

[JIMTED79]

"JACKPOT" diselboy its not going to be the goverment fixing it. If you ask me the oil companys are the goverment.

[Giz400ex]

Originally posted by DieselBoy


SO BRAINWASHED, GOD!! [/B] You hit the nail right on the head!!!!!!!!

[MOFO]

Originally posted by DieselBoy
PLAIN AND SIMPLE: GOVERMENT FUEL ***TAX*** FOR YOU BLIND FOLK IS A HUGE PERCENT OF THE FUEL COST AT THE STATION. THE GOVERMENT ISN'T GOING TO FIX JACK SH... THEY ARE LOVING EVERY MINUTE OF IT.

SO BRAINWASHED, GOD!!

So what is the percentage/amount? I think you'll be surprised.

BTW, its spelled Government.

[MOFO]

Here, I did the research for you.

After reading this chart, you will see after inflation is factored in, taxes are pretty damn close to where they should be (if anything, they might be a tad low).

This huge increase everyone is seeing is NOT an increase in taxes!

http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/Historical%20Trends%20in%20Motor%20Gasoline%20Taxe s%201918-2002.pdf

The difference in fuel prices between states is mainly due to your own local gov't and the state taxes.

[DieselBoy]

Link doesn't work...

[DieselBoy]

http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/images/gas_taxes_by_state_2002.jpg

[MOFO]

Ok, here is another link that will lead to what I was talking about. This information is up to 2002 tax data, however it provides great historical data.

http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/statistics/gas_taxes_by_state_2002.html




Here is a another GREAT link showing data as of 1/05.

Please note the federal tax is ONLY 18.4 cents per gallon...nationwide. The rest is made up by the local/state tax. Again, blame YOUR local gov't.

http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp

But overall the surge in gas prices is NOT due to taxes. By looking at the historical data, our taxes are right in line... heck, they might even be a tad lower.

[DieselBoy]

But overall the surge in gas prices is NOT due to taxes.

I know that...

[DieselBoy]

Also a great rubric for how the fee's work up...

http://www.state.sd.us/drr2/motorvehicle/tax_by_catagory.gif

[MOFO]

Originally posted by DieselBoy
PLAIN AND SIMPLE: GOVERMENT FUEL ***TAX*** FOR YOU BLIND FOLK IS A HUGE PERCENT OF THE FUEL COST AT THE STATION. THE GOVERMENT ISN'T GOING TO FIX JACK SH... THEY ARE LOVING EVERY MINUTE OF IT.

SO BRAINWASHED, GOD!!

Then why did you make this statement. The federal gov't is only taking about 18.4 cents per gallon. This is hardly a huge percent of what gas costs at the pump.

[DieselBoy]

It still has to do with it....

they should put a freeze on the fuel price i think... like they did with electricity a couple years ago.

[MOFO]

Originally posted by DieselBoy
It still has to do with it....

they should put a freeze on the fuel price i think... like they did with electricity a couple years ago.

Right now, gas prices are not high enough to justify any kind of a freeze. Looking back, we have paid more for gas after factoring in inflation.

The long term solution is to be less dependent on foreign oil and create more refinery's.

[MOFO]

Originally posted by JIMTED79
"JACKPOT" diselboy its not going to be the goverment fixing it. If you ask me the oil companys are the goverment.


Please elaborate on this one... "The oil company's are the gov't"????

[JIMTED79]

Originally posted by MOFO
Please elaborate on this one... "The oil company's are the gov't"????

I just say that because bush is an oil guy and he's all about big
business and what big business is turnig record profits right now.

[JIMTED79]

Originally posted by MOFO
Right now, gas prices are not high enough to justify any kind of a freeze. Looking back, we have paid more for gas after factoring in inflation.

The long term solution is to be less dependent on foreign oil and create more refinery's.

Maybe factoring inflation but here in southern california A 3 bedroom two bath house is almost half a million dollars, gas is $2.91 for 87 as of today. The list goes on and your dollar today does not go half as far as it did in the 70's. Tell me how bad does it half to get before the government steps in?

[DieselBoy]

it simply doesn't matter how many refineries we have, we need an alternate fuel source... they have busses in japan that run off water--wtf is the hold up? my guess: government.

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by DieselBoy
it simply doesn't matter how many refineries we have, we need an alternate fuel source... they have busses in japan that run off water--wtf is the hold up? my guess: government. do you have any idea how unreliable those water powered vehicles are? They are followed by a PARTS CAR becuase they break down too much.

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by JIMTED79
I just say that because bush is an oil guy and he's all about big
business and what big business is turnig record profits right now. and your an idiot.

[NorCalRacer]

A DIFFERENT ENEGY SOURCE IS THE ANSWER, BUT NOT WATER. WATER IS A NON-RENEWABLE RESOURCE AND IF WE START BURNING IT IN OUR TANKS (MOLECULAR DEGENERATION INTO HYDROGEN AND OXYGEN) WE WILL BE A THIRSTY PLANET. GM HAS A GOOD COMPROMISE WITH THE ETHANOL, BUT EVENTUALLY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BITE THE BULLET AND FIND ANOTHER WAY TO GET AROUND. UNTIL THEN, SINCE I DRIVE, BOAT AND RIDE ATV'S, I WON'T ***** BECAUSE IT SOLVES NOTHING. A SMALLER MOTOR DID. I DON'T THINK HIGH PRICES ARE FAIR, BUT LIFE ISN'T FAIR. AT LEAST WE DON'T HAVE IT AS BAD AS CANADA.:D

[MOFO]

Originally posted by JIMTED79
Maybe factoring inflation but here in southern california A 3 bedroom two bath house is almost half a million dollars, gas is $2.91 for 87 as of today. The list goes on and your dollar today does not go half as far as it did in the 70's. Tell me how bad does it half to get before the government steps in?

If you cant swing it, move! You expect the gov't to step in because you cant afford to live there? If it was that bad, people would not be living there. Our economy is driven by supply and demand. When you involved gov't, your killing what makes our country so great (from a business point of view).

I do know people who live in CA, and in their case, their compensation from work is adjusted to match the cost of living out there.

Anyways, I dont see how the cost of housing relates to the cost of fuel in the US. :huh

[MOFO]

Originally posted by NacsRacer027
and your an idiot.


You read my mind. Simple and to the point. :D

[Giz400ex]

Originally posted by DieselBoy


SO BRAINWASHED, GOD!! I really like this quote:cool:

[MOFO]

Originally posted by Giz400ex
I really like this quote:cool:


Why, do you also agree with his post that was with this quote? Taxes are the main reason our gas prices are so high?

If so, I'd say you are the one brain washed to always blame the gov't. ;)

Actually I kinda like that quote too... reminds me of Napoleon Dynamite (sp?). :D

[Giz400ex]

Me........brainwashed??????? LOL!!!!!:D :D :D All I know is that here in NY, the state charges 64cents per gallon. So for the math majors, if its $2.90 a gallon, it could be $2.26. Which would really help:rolleyes: But, I guess by the year 2025, the U.S. will no longer need foreign oil, so thats something to look forward to:huh

[MOFO]

Originally posted by Giz400ex
Me........brainwashed??????? LOL!!!!!:D :D :D All I know is that here in NY, the state charges 64cents per gallon. So for the math majors, if its $2.90 a gallon, it could be $2.26. Which would really help:rolleyes: But, I guess by the year 2025, the U.S. will no longer need foreign oil, so thats something to look forward to:huh

Then you need to point fingers at your OWN local gov't. The federal gov't is only taking 18.4 cents a gallon. Give or take.

...and for the democrat liberals... there goes your major tax income...and we all know democrats wont give up taxes. :D

I find it funny the same people that want the gov't to provide SO many programs to support them - general public (welfare, free medical care...etc) are the ones that jump all over the gov't to stop taxing items and lower prices.... then they point fingers when the national debt goes up. Where does this money come from? The money tree? How about they cut all the gas tax then increase the property or income tax. In one pocket out the other...

...anyways, I've made my statements. No reason for me to continue with this discussion. :)

[Giz400ex]

The word here is "Greedy"!

i saw on the news they said that Icelands public trasnportation systems are already running off of hydrogen motors, it does not polluate and the water just had to have a certain chemicle in it for it to work in the motor witch is a hell of a alot cheaper then gas...Iceland said that THEY WILL PROVE to the rest of the world that GASOLINE is NOT needed

[400exrules]

i got some 110 octane the other day for $6 a gallon at a local pump

[DieselBoy]

Originally posted by Honda86
i saw on the news they said that Icelands public trasnportation systems are already running off of hydrogen motors, it does not polluate and the water just had to have a certain chemicle in it for it to work in the motor witch is a hell of a alot cheaper then gas...Iceland said that THEY WILL PROVE to the rest of the world that GASOLINE is NOT needed


hope so....

fuel basically controls the cost of everything when you think about it.

[Iliketogofast]

Yeah, but if hydrogen motors popularize people have to get the chemical somewhere (for the water), and they will probably charge like 10 bucks an oz.

[JIMTED79]

Originally posted by MOFO
If you cant swing it, move! You expect the gov't to step in because you cant afford to live there? If it was that bad, people would not be living there. Our economy is driven by supply and demand. When you involved gov't, your killing what makes our country so great (from a business point of view).

I do know people who live in CA, and in their case, their compensation from work is adjusted to match the cost of living out there.

Anyways, I dont see how the cost of housing relates to the cost of fuel in the US. :huh

Your the jackass bringing up inflation so I went off that with the housing price as one example of money spent like never before. Never said I wanted the gov to step in Just asked the question how bad does it half to get. As far as compensaided wages for cost of living in CA that just shows how ignorint you are,small business is leaving CA like crazy. Small business is what keeps this country strong not big business which is what i'm attacking. NACSRACER027,whats up man can't handle an honest opinion, sounds like you need to leave the trailer park and read something so you have something useful to say. I love this ****,keep it coming your momma jokes are up next.

[MR.BIG]

:eek2: :eek2: :eek2: Wow! Anyway it went up to $2.69 a gal. for regular in NJ!

[Iliketogofast]

It's going down here.

[MOFO]

Originally posted by JIMTED79
I love this ****,keep it coming your momma jokes are up next.



Nope... you wont be going there. While your at it, knock off the name calling and foul language.

[JIMTED79]

Originally posted by MOFO
Nope... you wont be going there. While your at it, knock off the name calling and foul language.

But its all good to call me an idiot, sounds a little hipacritical. This is going nowhere now, I'm over it:macho

[DieselBoy]

Originally posted by JIMTED79
But its all good to call me an idiot, sounds a little hipacritical. This is going nowhere now, I'm over it:macho

exactly what i was thinkn'

[PolarisRider06]

Originally posted by MOFO
Then you need to point fingers at your OWN local gov't. The federal gov't is only taking 18.4 cents a gallon. Give or take.

...and for the democrat liberals... there goes your major tax income...and we all know democrats wont give up taxes. :D

I find it funny the same people that want the gov't to provide SO many programs to support them - general public (welfare, free medical care...etc) are the ones that jump all over the gov't to stop taxing items and lower prices.... then they point fingers when the national debt goes up. Where does this money come from? The money tree? How about they cut all the gas tax then increase the property or income tax. In one pocket out the other...

...anyways, I've made my statements. No reason for me to continue with this discussion. :)


well heck if you figure 19 cents cheaper a gallon that would be about $2.50 a gallon here and i'm not sure what Minnesota adds on to gas but that would probably bring it down to about $2.00 and that would help a lot....

now to the oil companies talk about flat out GREED i dont care about any of the supply and demand crap because there is no reason for the oil companies to be making over 60% proffit on their oil... i could see 20% maybe 25% they would still be making a crapload of cash but 60-70% is rediculous... thats just flat out greed... if you think about it them going down to about a 25% proffit and federal state and local taxes going down a little bit on gas and they can raise it on tobacco and alcohol a little bit to make up for it and that would probably bring the gas prices down to around $1.75

now i'll definately agree with you about the people who want the gov't to provide programs like welfare, drop fuel taxes, and then complain about the national debt are idiots. personally i think there should be some cuts on welfare and it should be more limited to the people who CAN'T work because of major illness or dissability. the minorities shouldn't get welfare just because they are minorities and people who don't work because they don't want to since the gov't just gives them their welfare check shouldn't be getting it either. i think that if they can work but they just don't try and find a job or they cant get a job because they spend all of their time drinking or doing drugs they don't deserve to be getting money from the gov't who takes it from all of the people who actually work in the country.

free medical care would be nice but its just not possible without some very serious taxes being taken out of every paycheck like they do in countries like norway.

i got an e-mail the other day called GAS WARS and it has a plan in it to help reduce the price of gas by using supply and demand against the oil companies. i'll find it quick and post it up.

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by JIMTED79
NACSRACER027,whats up man can't handle an honest opinion, sounds like you need to leave the trailer park and read something so you have something useful to say. I love this ****,keep it coming your momma jokes are up next. LMFAO...i live in a trailer park?...rofl....thats hilarious. I love how when you get called out, you blatantly go right to trying to flame me and my personal life. Just a little bit of your info...both of my parents combined make well over 150k a year. We have 3 barns that are probably all bigger than your house. Me, at the age of 17, probably already has a more of a career than you do. The difference between me calling you and idiot, and you blatantly attacking me on no substansial grounds...is the fact that i based my post on FACTS. If i was to come out and say something that stupid...i would expect to get called an idiot and i wouldnt ***** about it...

It sure does seem pretty obvious in this thread who thinks the goverment is out to get everyone and the people with common sense.

[DieselBoy]

:huh :huh this is getting really lame.....


DROP IT

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by DieselBoy
:huh :huh this is getting really lame.....


DROP IT you seconded his question...he called out my family, saying we live in a trailer park....I take that as a direct insult backed up by no facts. I simply defended my family....

a tip for the future, back up a question, then you get an answer..say its lame and drop it...now, you can drop it.

[DieselBoy]

Originally posted by NacsRacer027
you seconded his question...he called out my family, saying we live in a trailer park....I take that as a direct insult backed up by no facts. I simply defended my family....

a tip for the future, back up a question, then you get an answer..say its lame and drop it...now, you can drop it.

get over it. don't take this so seriously... your ruining the forum experience.... just let it go forget it move on...

:rolleyes:

[Warnerade]

boy..you sure have had a change of tone.

[MOFO]

The next post that is a slam or bash, or not related to the topic at hand will be the last one, then this thread will be closed.

[Warnerade]

so, how about those gas prices?