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yamahabanshee19
03-27-2006, 02:39 PM
hey do they even make 490 kits for 400exs?

Honda#4
03-27-2006, 03:06 PM
ive never herd that before i know that poweroll or powroll how ever u say it makes a 500 big bore stroker kit for the 400.somebody back me up on that.

Franky G
03-27-2006, 04:25 PM
FST makes a 500 stroker

perley03
03-27-2006, 04:55 PM
hot rods makes a 460 kit...includes a stroker crank, rod, piston and sleve for $760 but you will need the big bore cam which is an extra 160

jordan_m6
03-27-2006, 05:05 PM
you can get the hot rod kit on ebay for $500

yamahabanshee19
03-27-2006, 05:24 PM
no i was just wondering cause i think this kid is bull****ting me he said hes 400ex has a 490 kit on it. You guys think even a 500ex would beat my banshee??

BlackTrx440ex
03-27-2006, 05:41 PM
yea it will prob better your banshee , banshees are way overated!!!

jeremy_283
03-27-2006, 07:11 PM
banshees are best in drags and did u see his sig.? but crap i dunno i never seen one in a drag

04'400ex'er
03-27-2006, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by BlackTrx440ex
yea it will prob better your banshee , banshees are way overated!!! Are you and idiot????? The Banshee is the best atv created for drag racing or building raw horsepower. My bros shee has SST's, NOSS head, DJ needles, K&N pods, and a couple other things and he would walk away and leave my piped and cammed ex so bad It wasnt worth racing him. It sounds pretty similar to your mods. If he has an all out ported head and the whole works, then It should be a really close race. He will prob pull you on acceleration but you should catch him eventually for sure.

yamahabanshee19
03-29-2006, 03:53 PM
Yea i sure ill smoke him ne way 490 kit or no 490 kIT. But ne way how fast u guys think my shee will go. i raced a snowmobile on ice with bald tires and i only weigh 130 and he sed i was doin about 80 and my quad wud barely pull 6th so i had to keep downshifting cause it was boggin

redracer10
03-29-2006, 04:07 PM
Yeah they do make 490 kits, They are very rare to find because everyone pays an extra 100.00 for the Hot Rod stroker kit but they do make the 490's they make 406,416,426,440,450,460,470,480,490,500, and probably bigger but this summer I was looken into buyin a 490 from a site I found from a freind it was KD cycle if anyone has heard of them in Yuma, Arizona. About the whole banshees are overrated comment I will have to say they are great drag racing atv's but thats because they are cheaper to buy aftermarket parts for. And I have seen some wicked fast banshees but they are all cheap atvs when you think about a 2004 banshee compared to a 2004 450R a banshee is quite a bit cheaper and the parts are too. I have beat banshees with my 400EX but those are the banshees that just have a few mods the drag banshees can go up to 125 or so... dont tell me thats overrated thats also a free ticket to death going that fast if your not a good driver.

redracer10
03-29-2006, 04:10 PM
Yea i sure ill smoke him ne way 490 kit or no 490 kIT. But ne way how fast u guys think my shee will go. i raced a snowmobile on ice with bald tires and i only weigh 130 and he sed i was doin about 80 and my quad wud barely pull 6th so i had to keep downshifting cause it was boggin


HAHA you gotta be kiddin ... 80 on ice... you would be dead with a atv on ice doin 80... I'd say you might have been doin 60 or 65 if that!! And you would still be slidin like a *****... let me guess if you 80 on ice you do 130 on dirt drags... NICE TRY BUT NO

BlackTrx440ex
03-29-2006, 05:38 PM
yea its virutually impossible to do 80 on the ice with a quad,

redracer10
03-29-2006, 05:43 PM
A buddy clocked my 440EX doin 93 on a dirt drag at Cowtown, Missouri and I was flyin literally so 80 on ice would be death wish AND that death wish isnt possible

jordan_m6
03-29-2006, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by BlackTrx440ex
yea its virutually impossible to do 80 on the ice with a quad,

i agree, and i think his speedo is a little fast

underpowered
03-29-2006, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by redracer10
A buddy clocked my 440EX doin 93 on a dirt drag at Cowtown, Missouri and I was flyin literally so 80 on ice would be death wish AND that death wish isnt possible

what gearing are you running? must have one heck of a motor to pullthat tall of gearing. :rolleyes:

NO way you could do 93 on a 400ex. get me a time slip and i will believe you.

04'400ex'er
03-29-2006, 05:58 PM
I will have to say they are great drag racing atv's but thats because they are cheaper to buy aftermarket parts for. And I have seen some wicked fast banshees but they are all cheap atvs when you think about a 2004 banshee compared to a 2004 450R a banshee is quite a bit cheaper and the parts are too. I have beat banshees with my 400EX...

Your posts disgust me. Banshees are not a cheap atv. Go to the dunes and tell me what you see in the campgrounds and crossing the finish line first. When you put a set of built cub cylanders on a shee nearly NO 450 can touch it no matter HOW much is invested. They are a 2 stroke, and they have half the parts on them that a 4 stroke has. that is why they are easier to mod, and cheaper, because there is less there. They are not that much cheaper. And your ex does not do 93MPH. They run 60 stock. :rolleyes: :eek2: Enough with the STUPID POSTS!

redracer10
03-29-2006, 06:13 PM
You guys have never seen my 440EX so you cant say It dont do 93 and my bud clocked it with a Trail Tech speedometer which are known to be 2-3 MPH off. I have TWO things on my atv that are stock... my gas tank and my decal kit is how I bought it....

redracer10
03-29-2006, 06:16 PM
They run 60 stock. Enough with the STUPID POSTS!


2004 Honda 400EX does not do 60 stock dumb*** try 68. And I have over 13,000 in it so 13,000 can make a 400EX 25 MPH faster!!

400exstud
03-29-2006, 06:34 PM
80 mph on a lake isn't that unreasonable for his hopped up shee. Once you get on plowed ice roads and crack it it is as if you are on black top. I have riden shees that do over 80 so......... what's the big deal?

yamahabanshee19
03-29-2006, 06:35 PM
Are u guys ****ting me i cud care less how fast my quad goes and im not lying, im no little kid who makes up **** about how fast my 4 wheeler goes. it was on the ioce but there was no ice it was all snow on a lake and it was opackde from weeks of sleds driving on it and im just tellin u guys what the kid said i was doin.

yamahabanshee19
03-29-2006, 06:38 PM
Yea and are u ****ing retarded how ios a banshee a cheap quad it costs just as much as a 450r or a yfz and everything u put on a banshee is twice as expensive as the same thing for a 450. so to put a full systems exhaust on my banshee is gonna cost me less then if i were to buy it for a 450r?

redracer10
03-29-2006, 06:56 PM
Yea and are u ****ing retarded how ios a banshee a cheap quad it costs just as much as a 450r or a yfz and everything u put on a banshee is twice as expensive as the same thing for a 450. so to put a full systems exhaust on my banshee is gonna cost me less then if i were to buy it for a 450r?


HAHA basically there are alot less parts that go on a banshee to buy to pimp it out there are alot more performance parts on a 450R then a banshee and as for a dealer price YFZ's are 1,700 more then a banshee... 6,900 to 5,200 for a '06... thats quite a bit cheaper go do your daily 80 MPH on ur ice track and come back latter....HAHA 80 on ice real funny did u break ur neck or what??

SHADETREE101
03-29-2006, 06:59 PM
here you go, i own both a modded 400 and a modded banshee. with the mods you have in your sig, i could smoke your banshee in a drag race. and my 400 is only a we little 426. as for the banshee being cheap, mine is a money pit, and any drag racer would tell you the same. the cost on building my honda was much less. if you know how to do the work yourself then they are just as cheap as modding out a two stroke. shops charge more to work on the 4 strokes because most people won't tear them down themselves. so they pay a hell of alot in labor charges. my banshee is faster than the 400, but my 400 is no slouch either. it all depends on how much you want to throw the $ at them. you also have to remember a 400 built and correctly set up for drags can be fast. same as a banshee. but a banshee set up for woods riding might not do so well against a bike that is purpoese built. just my $.02

ogre
03-29-2006, 07:02 PM
My ex does 69.87564 mph in reverse

redracer10
03-29-2006, 07:05 PM
My ex does 69.87564 mph in reverse


I clocked mine at around 72 in neutral up a hill... and I was in reverse going up the hill doing 75

underpowered
03-29-2006, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by redracer10
HAHA basically there are alot less parts that go on a banshee to buy to pimp it out there are alot more performance parts on a 450R then a banshee and as for a dealer price YFZ's are 1,700 more then a banshee... 6,900 to 5,200 for a '06... thats quite a bit cheaper go do your daily 80 MPH on ur ice track and come back latter....HAHA 80 on ice real funny did u break ur neck or what??

How so? you have to buy two of everything for a banshee. two pipes, tow pistons, two rods, ect. i have never seen a "Cheap" banshee. Just ask MXjunkie how much it cost to build a banshee.

ogre
03-29-2006, 07:10 PM
Im not a banshee fan, but i have always heard there expensive bikes to own and MOD. Thats one reason im not a fan i like cheap stuff, that is reliable

yamahabanshee19
03-29-2006, 07:15 PM
woops forgot to update my sig ladies its a 409 now and has been since october. Yea and how the **** do u figure that the banshee which has been out for 18 years now has less performance parts then a quad that has been out for 3 years? And no tough guy i didnt break anything. YeA and if theres a 400ex out there that can beat me i havnt raced it yet no 426ex is gonna touch my banshee that ive ever seen ive smoked 400s with my predaotr and raptor and they both dont even touch my banshee. My friends stock z400 beats a 416ex and my shee eats my friends z440.

04'400ex'er
03-29-2006, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by redracer10
They run 60 stock. Enough with the STUPID POSTS!


2004 Honda 400EX does not do 60 stock dumb*** try 68. And I have over 13,000 in it so 13,000 can make a 400EX 25 MPH faster!! Ya your right. Mine ran 58 on a radar gun. bros stock shee ran 63. Your a loser go look at your 93mph ex and shut up.:rolleyes:

ogre
03-29-2006, 07:24 PM
58? thats a sad 400ex...mine completely stock ran 64 or 65

redracer10
03-29-2006, 07:24 PM
woops forgot to update my sig ladies its a 409 now and has been since october. Yea and how the **** do u figure that the banshee which has been out for 18 years now has less performance parts then a quad that has been out for 3 years? And no tough guy i didnt break anything. YeA and if theres a 400ex out there that can beat me i havnt raced it yet no 426ex is gonna touch my banshee that ive ever seen ive smoked 400s with my predaotr and raptor and they both dont even touch my banshee. My friends stock z400 beats a 416ex and my shee eats my friends z440.



CONGRATULATIONS!! LETS THROW U A PARTAY!!!! no.... if u think no atv can touch youb I have a 440EX and a 250R both decked out with over 10,000 each and I will race you with both... Where do you live I will meet you halfway at any atv park of you choice....I will give you a 20 yard length in a 400 yard race with my 250R vs. ur "BADDD" banshee... i garuntee you you eat my dust every 300 yards of that 400 yard race... 250R has nevaa been beaten.... 440 has been beaten only by banshees, and my 250R's never a YFZ or a 440 or 400....

yamahabanshee19
03-29-2006, 07:26 PM
by the way dush bag it clearly states on the official yamaha motor site that a 2006 banshee retails for 6200-6500 so i dont knonw where u got 5200 from. It also say that 7000-7300 for a yfz. 800 dollars less woo hoo. The banshee has remained virtually inchanged for 18 years and its only 800 dollars less than a 3 year old high tech 4 stroke. And as for there being alot less parts that go on a banshee to buy to "pimp it out" i think u need to recheck your sources my friend cause theres at least 2 times more **** to put on a shee then a 450

redracer10
03-29-2006, 07:29 PM
Ya your right. Mine ran 58 on a radar gun. bros stock shee ran 63. Your a loser go look at your 93mph ex and shut up.



Did this 400EX have a 250EX motor??

yamahabanshee19
03-29-2006, 07:33 PM
whats on ur 440? cause i guarentee u wont have me 300 yards out 400 and yea why dont u throw me a party. And i didnt say that my **** beats ne atv i sed every 400ex ive ever seen it would beat and its true as for me going 80 on a snowmobile drag track. i dont see the reason that i would lie about that? yea and not even an r1 will beat me that badly. And i didnt say my banshee was all "baddd" i sed it what i know it will do

04'400ex'er
03-29-2006, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by SHADETREE101
here you go, i own both a modded 400 and a modded banshee. with the mods you have in your sig, i could smoke your banshee in a drag race. and my 400 is only a we little 426. as for the banshee being cheap, mine is a money pit, and any drag racer would tell you the same. the cost on building my honda was much less. if you know how to do the work yourself then they are just as cheap as modding out a two stroke. shops charge more to work on the 4 strokes because most people won't tear them down themselves. so they pay a hell of alot in labor charges. my banshee is faster than the 400, but my 400 is no slouch either. it all depends on how much you want to throw the $ at them. you also have to remember a 400 built and correctly set up for drags can be fast. same as a banshee. but a banshee set up for woods riding might not do so well against a bike that is purpoese built. just my $.02 I disagree with part of your post. Unless you have a fully built 426 with everything in it you wil not spank that shee. My bro has SST's K&N pods, DJ needles, Noss machine head, and Ricky Stator timing plate. In a 100yd drag, He would be aprox. 15 bike lengths in front of my piped and cammed ex. Same results when we switched. Add weisco prolites and a drag port to the head for around $350 and watch it jump another 6-8 bike lenghts. The shees are bad... there is nuthing that will hang with a twin cylander 2 stroke.

You are correct about the purpose built statement though, all bikes are for certain needs. A built ex will spank a shee in the woods and on the track IMO.

About building a shee cheap... Some of you are looking at this wrong. Say you have a shee with the average mods... pipes filter jetted...and an ex or 450R with the same mods done. You want to drop $1500 in each bike on a built motor.

The 4 stroke gets a cam new valves, springs. retainers, timing chain, possibly a rod and crank, piston, and a port job. A fully built motor would cost you near this price.

The 2 stroke gets 2 pistons, reeds and cages, cool head, fully ported jugs...all of this for under the budjet, given you install yourself.

No 400EX is going to run with a fully built shee, especially after the dremel has come into play. A banshee of that caliber will be running right next to a fully built YFZ.

04'400ex'er
03-29-2006, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by redracer10
Ya your right. Mine ran 58 on a radar gun. bros stock shee ran 63. Your a loser go look at your 93mph ex and shut up.



Did this 400EX have a 250EX motor?? Ya, 2 of them. Thats the facts about the bike. Most reasonable people are willing to admit that a stock ex runs around 62 stock. mine pulled 58 on the radar. that leaves room for error, considering the factors that come into play in each situation.

Now please take your ignorant, uninformed posts elsewhere!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

redracer10
03-29-2006, 07:42 PM
whats on ur 440? cause i guarentee u wont have me 300 yards out 400


I never said I was going to give u a head start with my 440 but with my 250R i give you 20 lenths on a 400 yard race.... and I will eat your banshee alive...head up my 440EX vs. your mod banshee will be a good race I was clocked at Cowtown,Missouri at a drag strip when I got 1st place with both my 440 and my 250R my 440 was clocked at 93 MPH and my 250R was clocked at 111 MPH when I beat a mod banshee... My 440 won when I beat a 500R.

04'400ex'er
03-29-2006, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by ogre
58? thats a sad 400ex...mine completely stock ran 64 or 65 Behind a car?:rolleyes:

PismoLocal
03-29-2006, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by redracer10
A buddy clocked my 440EX doin 93 on a dirt drag at Cowtown, Missouri and I was flyin literally so 80 on ice would be death wish AND that death wish isnt possible
lmao
My 400ex does 94mph with stock gearing in 4th gear


































when its in the trailer behind my tahoe. lol:D

redracer10
03-29-2006, 07:45 PM
Ya, 2 of them. Thats the facts about the bike. Most reasonable people are willing to admit that a stock ex runs around 62 stock. mine pulled 58 on the radar. that leaves room for error, considering the factors that come into play in each situation.



I think Anyone who owns a 400EX will not admit it goes 62... If it does get it checked out its got problems I clocked mine after 2 weeks of bein broke in totally bone stock at 67 MPH.

redracer10
03-29-2006, 07:47 PM
when its in the trailer behind my tahoe. lol



Well when I have 13,000 in aftermarket accesories It can boot scoot and whip some ***

04'400ex'er
03-29-2006, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by redracer10
whats on ur 440? cause i guarentee u wont have me 300 yards out 400


I never said I was going to give u a head start with my 440 but with my 250R i give you 20 lenths on a 400 yard race.... and I will eat your banshee alive...head up my 440EX vs. your mod banshee will be a good race I was clocked at Cowtown,Missouri at a drag strip when I got 1st place with both my 440 and my 250R my 440 was clocked at 93 MPH and my 250R was clocked at 111 MPH when I beat a mod banshee... My 440 won when I beat a 500R. Get a life. Nothing will ever beat a banshee in drag racing. HP is endless. take a look...

redracer10
03-29-2006, 07:58 PM
I think exriders should have a huge drag race where we all meet up and race and so everyone quites mouthin they can beat my 250R I will race any atv with my 250R and smoke it pretty much I have never lost even when I give reasonable head starts I dont lose.... I will race for Pinkslips if your so cocky about it... I believe my 250R can beat any banshee out there that I've seen.

yamahabanshee19
03-29-2006, 08:01 PM
20 lenths are u ****ting me i race street bikes that far and they wont even put that many lengths on me. i know a 440ex will not beat me i dont care whats on it. my friedns z440 piped camed and a **** load of other stuff done to the motor isnt even a good race for my shee but a 250r i can see will give me a good fight but 20 lengths isnt gonna happen. what state u live in? ivebeaten rs with 330 kits on them b4 so i dunno about an 250r stock bore






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04'400ex'er
03-29-2006, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by redracer10
I think exriders should have a huge drag race where we all meet up and race and so everyone quites mouthin they can beat my 250R I will race any atv with my 250R and smoke it pretty much I have never lost even when I give reasonable head starts I dont lose.... I will race for Pinkslips if your so cocky about it... I believe my 250R can beat any banshee out there that I've seen. Do you think your 250R can beat the shee's in the pic...

ogre
03-29-2006, 08:07 PM
He didnt say he was gonna beat one of those poster banshees...HE said he would take his 250R and smoke your ***

redracer10
03-29-2006, 08:08 PM
Live in Missouri ...just Private Message me about where u wanna race I'll meet you halfway at a park or somin. Street Bikes will smoke ur banshee outta the water ur exasuratin there... I raced a 2006 Dodge Stratus R/T at Cowton, Missouri drag stips on a 500 yard race I got a 5 length head start with my 250R and beat him by 2 lengths... On pure ashphalt this was just for fun race but still Stratus R/T is no slouch I bet u cant beat one...the only way u beat my is ur off the line my 250 cant stay on the ground so you could get a major lead of the line but I will smoke ya in the speed.... 111 MPH whats your banshee clocked my 440EX clocked at 93 once and 88 another time at Cowtown.

redracer10
03-29-2006, 08:14 PM
Yah those 2 banshees in that pic i would probably say my 250R would beat I have beaten some amazing wicked fast banshees and those dont look anything like those banshees.... I have beaten cars.. Ford Focus, Stratus R/T, Dodge Dakot pickup... Banshees arent that fast my 250R runs 111 and that was on ashpalt... so on hard packed dirt I'd say it runs 116 or so thats wicked fast but it also has 13,500 in parts installed and 5,000 in the engine. Blows racing clutches every 12 hours of riding!!MEAN MACHINE!!

04'400ex'er
03-29-2006, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by redracer10
Live in Missouri ...just Private Message me about where u wanna race I'll meet you halfway at a park or somin. Street Bikes will smoke ur banshee outta the water ur exasuratin there... I raced a 2006 Dodge Stratus R/T at Cowton, Missouri drag stips on a 500 yard race I got a 5 length head start with my 250R and beat him by 2 lengths... On pure ashphalt this was just for fun race but still Stratus R/T is no slouch I bet u cant beat one...the only way u beat my is ur off the line my 250 cant stay on the ground so you could get a major lead of the line but I will smoke ya in the speed.... 111 MPH whats your banshee clocked my 440EX clocked at 93 once and 88 another time at Cowtown. Lets see pixs of your r and ex...

04'400ex'er
03-29-2006, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by redracer10
Yah those 2 banshees in that pic i would probably say my 250R would beat I have beaten some amazing wicked fast banshees and those dont look anything like those banshees.... I have beaten cars.. Ford Focus, Stratus R/T, Dodge Dakot pickup... Banshees arent that fast my 250R runs 111 and that was on ashpalt... so on hard packed dirt I'd say it runs 116 or so thats wicked fast but it also has 13,500 in parts installed and 5,000 in the engine. Blows racing clutches every 12 hours of riding!!MEAN MACHINE!! Dude thats a 14 mil cheetah powervalve stroker and a 520 TREX. Unless you have a Sabertooth 500R then you dont stand a chance.....
:rolleyes:


Now about those pics...:eek2:

redracer10
03-29-2006, 08:19 PM
ill give u pics tomorrow i gotta roll out...

yamahabanshee19
03-29-2006, 08:21 PM
My banshees never been clocked with all the **** i have now but after gettin my first rebuild it went 101 and now its got a 409 kit on it and 101 with a 370 now i got 39 more cc so thats gotta give me at least 10mph plus im rockin the tall gearing and big tires. My shee eats my mustang its not even a race for my 5.0 5 speed. in a 1 mile race im about 1/4 mile away from my predator and thats the fastest 4 stroke ive ever ridden. i live in MA and have no clue how far a drive is to missouri but ill drive 3 hours no longer then that and ill do it this weekend. street bikes do blow me out of the water but no by 20 lengths. and iam cocky ill race you. Whats on your 250r?????

04'400ex'er
03-29-2006, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by ogre
He didnt say he was gonna beat one of those poster banshees...HE said he would take his 250R and smoke your *** He just did Shreck...spoke a little soon huh? Got any different thoughts about your son now???

yamahabanshee19
03-29-2006, 08:30 PM
yea dude i hate to break it to you but no 250r is gonna beat either banshee in that pic and man ur braggin that u beat a ford focus i spank mustangs and my mustangs not the fastes thing around but its pretty quick.my raptor went 90 and my predator beat it pretty bad and my banshee beats the bag out of anyhting i own and i know it will beat your 250r if its stock bore thats the only reason i havnt gotten rid of it but theres no way ur 250r will touch one of those banshees in that picture. i doubt there are many 250rs that can beat any drag banshee.

yamahabanshee19
03-29-2006, 08:39 PM
u gonna tell us whats on this legendary 250r of yours???

IanCFitz
03-29-2006, 08:56 PM
ok, so I started reading this post, and I'm pretty sure it was a waste of time. Hell I might even be dumber for it.


here's a rundown if anyone wants an abridged version:

do they make a 490 kit?

yeah i think "xxx" makes one.

my buddy says he has one and it will smoke "XXX" i think hes full of ****.

I have a "XXX" and its afster than "XXX"

you're stupid "XXX" is faster than "XXX"

no you're stupid "XXX" is faster than "XXX"

no you're stupid "XXX" is faster than "XXX"

no you're stupid "XXX" is faster than "XXX"

thats where I kinda forgot what the point of the thread was.


Not singling anyone out, I just thought this forum was for information not pissing matches.

ww228king
03-29-2006, 09:13 PM
i have gotta see a 400 ex or 440ex with about $13, 000 worth into ....what the heck did he do , gold plate it...daem....i mean really.....come on man...what the heck do you have a 502 big block with nos on that thing...now on a crotch rocket.. yeah i beleive $13,000 but on a 400ex well sorry 440ex....no way...show us a rundown of the parts ...i have built a few 400ex's and 426ex's and just dont see but a good 3000 tops in your 440ex......run down please....and please show 93 with stock gears too......must be running 15,000 rpms lol

ogre
03-29-2006, 09:28 PM
Ill admit i would like to see that 93 mph...but as for the people bragging about bikes who arent even theirs (banshee guys)...wow, thats DUMB. Im sure we can all look thru some web sites and magazines and always find sumthing "faster".

04'400ex'er
03-30-2006, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by ogre
Ill admit i would like to see that 93 mph...but as for the people bragging about bikes who arent even theirs (banshee guys)...wow, thats DUMB. Im sure we can all look thru some web sites and magazines and always find sumthing "faster".

Your missing the point. This kid thinks there is NOTHING faster, and that his R is unbeatable, and that no shee can touch it. That is the most ignorant thing anyone could say. I was giving this little boy an example of what is out there, it is obvious he is in his own little world.

Funny thing is, he still thinks he could beat those bikes. No one was bragging about bikes that arent theirs...Just trying to use a good example to get a point across.

Anyways, this is the biggest waste of time for me on here to try to convince this child...After I see the pics of his 111 mph 250r, and get a laugh in, Im out.:p

Rico
03-30-2006, 08:32 AM
I can spend $100 bucks and make a stock 400ex go over 100 MPH easily....:blah:

It might take 2 miles to get to 100 but it can do it.

Gearing is what makes the top speed faster, big motors just help you get from point A to point B faster but not much on top end speed like a gearing change.

This thread is pretty stupid anyway so here's a picture of me puking to make it better......:D enjoy

04'400ex'er
03-30-2006, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by Rico
I can spend $100 bucks and make a stock 400ex go over 100 MPH easily....:blah:

It might take 2 miles to get to 100 but it can do it.

Gearing is what makes the top speed faster, big motors just help you get from point A to point B faster but not much on top end speed like a gearing change.

This thread is pretty stupid anyway so here's a picture of me puking to make it better......:D enjoy Best F****** thing to happen to this thread yet! LMAO Rico.:p

curious george
03-30-2006, 08:41 AM
you guys get to worked up my 400ex with full fmf and racing valves and rev kit kills z400's all day long but as far as that banshee and 250R race i think that... well i hate to say it but that banshee will smoke your 250R no doubt about it. i will stand on the side line and bet my pink slip against the r if you win. it wont happen in the odds. even in best 2 out of 3 you will get "SMOKED"

yamahabanshee19
03-30-2006, 10:48 AM
yea how the hell is a 250r gonna beat my quad when a cr250 wont even beat it in a 300ft drag?? i kno my quads not even close to as fast as alot og u guys but i know it will beat this guys 440ex and probably his 250r unless i find out whts done to it

Rico
03-30-2006, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by yamahabanshee19
yea how the hell is a 250r gonna beat my quad when a cr250 wont even beat it in a 300ft drag?? i kno my quads not even close to as fast as alot og u guys but i know it will beat this guys 440ex and probably his 250r unless i find out whts done to it

Maybe he's just a better rider than you...:scary:

ogre
03-30-2006, 01:12 PM
Rico nice pic. have a few too many cold ones? LOL

Rico
03-30-2006, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by ogre
Rico nice pic. have a few too many cold ones? LOL

I was actually coming home from a Midsouth Harescramble when A bleeding ulcer kicked in. That was blood coming out and not beer.....:eek:


OK, back to the thread. My 416 ex will beat any banshee and all 250r's with 1 hand behind it's back....:macho

redracer10
03-30-2006, 04:00 PM
Heres two heck of atvs... And for whover said how can you have $13,000 in a 440EX...When it has 2 nitris bottles in it those are $1,800 together... and then I have another $4,200 in my moter, $500.00 on Fullbore fenders, 650.00 Curtis Sparks Exhaust System, $220.00 AC nerf bars, $150.00 TAG 2 Handlebars, $500.00 Holeshot tires and wheels kit, $650.00 in just air inflow sysyem, $300.00 in graphics, stickers, and seat cover combined, $750.00 Lonestar Swingarm, $1,300 ELKA suspension, $750.00 +2 Pro Design a-arms, $300.00 Durable racing axle, $110.00 wheel spacers, $80.00 AC Racing bumper, $300.00Durable Anti Sway Bar, 70.00 UM performance air scoops, $60 FMF Jet, and then the little things like frame gaurds and killswitch and heel gaurds adds up all together as a price of 13,000 in aftermarket.... So It is possible proved ya wrong.............Heres pics of "one badass" 440EX and "one heck of a 250R that will smoke any banshee" HAHA...EAT DUST YAMAHABANSHEE19!!!




"the" 250R!!
http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/honda-trx250-87-bikepics-440323.jpg



Sorry got no pics of the 440EX.... when I get the PICS I swear to everyone on here I will post them....Just remind me next time I'm on this site....

04'400ex'er
03-30-2006, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by redracer10
Heres two heck of atvs... And for whover said how can you have $13,000 in a 440EX...When it has 2 nitris bottles in it those are $1,800 together... and then I have another $4,200 in my moter, $500.00 on Fullbore fenders, 650.00 Curtis Sparks Exhaust System, $220.00 AC nerf bars, $150.00 TAG 2 Handlebars, $500.00 Holeshot tires and wheels kit, $650.00 in just air inflow sysyem, $300.00 in graphics, stickers, and seat cover combined, $750.00 Lonestar Swingarm, $1,300 ELKA suspension, $750.00 +2 Pro Design a-arms, $300.00 Durable racing axle, $110.00 wheel spacers, $80.00 AC Racing bumper, $300.00Durable Anti Sway Bar, 70.00 UM performance air scoops, $60 FMF Jet, and then the little things like frame gaurds and killswitch and heel gaurds adds up all together as a price of 13,000 in aftermarket.... So It is possible proved ya wrong.............Heres pics of "one badass" 440EX and "one heck of a 250R that will smoke any banshee" HAHA...EAT DUST YAMAHABANSHEE19!!!




"the" 250R!!
http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/honda-trx250-87-bikepics-440323.jpg



Sorry got no pics of the 440EX.... when I get the PICS I swear to everyone on here I will post them....Just remind me next time I'm on this site.... Thats a pretty nice R... but Im afraid its not going to hold a candle to a 14 mil cheetah motor... that bike in the pic I posted is solely for Drag racing...Your R is setup for mx. Your gonna have to face the facts one day.

And you sure paid a premium for all those parts. $650 on Sparks Exhaust??? And $150 on TAG bars??? You got ripped.

redracer10
03-30-2006, 04:17 PM
Thats a pretty nice R... but Im afraid its not going to hold a candle to a 14 mil cheetah motor... that bike in the pic I posted is solely for Drag racing...Your R is setup for mx. Your gonna have to face the facts one day.

It has been clocked at 111 on drag strips and I recently have added a new Swingarm, chromed out the whole bike, and put a 2nd nitris bottle in it...I would so now On the same drag stip I would go about 117 or 118..... And If I raced a banshee I race you on dunes, thats how my bikes setup....I see your banshees are nice but I have beat some Amazing banshees and my 250R has never been beaten by any ATV anywhere....And I give some banshees 10 yards headstart on a 400 yard race and beat them by 40 yards and some of those even have some wicked fast shees, The people up at Honda Missouri said I had the most amazing bike they have ever seen and herd, and those guys in the shop have probably seen some awesome bikes in the past 20 years they've been there........AND TO YAMAHABANSHEE19..... YOU DID NOT BEAT A MUSTANG.... MUSTANGS ARE A HELL OF A CAR AND A BANSHEE IS A HELL OF A ATV BUT THERES A DIFFERENCE THERE....MUSTANGS DO 135 STOCK WHEN THEY ARE REDLINING IT....the biggest car I have beaten was a 2 door Dodge Stratus R/T by 2 lengths and it was fast.

04'400ex'er
03-30-2006, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by redracer10
Thats a pretty nice R... but Im afraid its not going to hold a candle to a 14 mil cheetah motor... that bike in the pic I posted is solely for Drag racing...Your R is setup for mx. Your gonna have to face the facts one day.

It has been clocked at 111 on drag strips and I recently have added a new Swingarm, chromed out the whole bike, and put a 2nd nitris bottle in it...I would so now On the same drag stip I would go about 117 or 118..... And If I raced a banshee I race you on dunes, thats how my bikes setup....I see your banshees are nice but I have beat some Amazing banshees and my 250R has never been beaten by any ATV anywhere....And I give some banshees 10 yards headstart on a 400 yard race and beat them by 40 yards and some of those even have some wicked fast shees, The people up at Honda Missouri said I had the most amazing bike they have ever seen and herd, and those guys in the shop have probably seen some awesome bikes in the past 20 years they've been there........AND TO YAMAHABANSHEE19..... YOU DID NOT BEAT A MUSTANG.... MUSTANGS ARE A HELL OF A CAR AND A BANSHEE IS A HELL OF A ATV BUT THERES A DIFFERENCE THERE....MUSTANGS DO 135 STOCK WHEN THEY ARE REDLINING IT....the biggest car I have beaten was a 2 door Dodge Stratus R/T by 2 lengths and it was fast.
Your R will do this in its sleep huh?

redracer10
03-30-2006, 04:42 PM
Your R will do this in its sleep huh?


We are talkin about racing not throwing sand... And No off the line my R does not throw sand like that but it does throw its share of sand.....plus why are you getting on websites and trying to get banshees that will beat my R... Im sure I would admit there are some but seriously those poster banshees that where posted I think I can probably beat those If I can use both nitris bottles...

underpowered
03-30-2006, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by redracer10

"the" 250R!!
http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/honda-trx250-87-bikepics-440323.jpg


Not a bad looking bike, but ot me it looks like an average MX bike, nothin special about it.
BTW, there is No way that thing is geared to run 118.

redracer10
03-30-2006, 05:11 PM
Not a bad looking bike, but ot me it looks like an average MX bike, nothin special about it.


Ok, first off this is not a average bike at any means, any bike with more then 10,000 in not average and its a 250R its geared to go fast and the mods I made are for mostly speed... I have been in just 4 MX races around local fairs and got 1st in every fair.

underpowered
03-30-2006, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by redracer10
Not a bad looking bike, but ot me it looks like an average MX bike, nothin special about it.


Ok, first off this is not a average bike at any means, any bike with more then 10,000 in not average and its a 250R its geared to go fast and the mods I made are for mostly speed... I have been in just 4 MX races around local fairs and got 1st in every fair.

I said it looked average.

There are only two ways to make a bike faster. Gearing and Higher RPM's. a showroom stock 250r was actually not that fast, only about the same as a 400ex at a top speed of a little over 70. You start adding mods, doing this and that to it and the top speed may go up by a few mile per hour until you hit the rev limiter. You can raise the gearing (lower numerically) to make it faster or raise the rev limiter. In order to do 118, you would have to have some mosterous high gearing or a rev limiter set at about 17,000RPM. It is just not possibly mathmatically. Motor mods will only do two things:1. Give you the extra power to pull the taller gears and 2. just get you to your top speed faster, but not make your overall top speed any faster than stock. Understand how this stuff works? what gearing are you running and what it your rev limiter at?

ogre
03-30-2006, 05:21 PM
I was taking up for ya, but i dont think the motor would crank enough rpms to run 110 mph. What gearing do u have front and back? And in a drag race one guys bike may run only 85 and another 90. BUt its who gets to the finish line first. But nice quad anyway.

03-30-2006, 05:34 PM
Whoa, redracer10!! I saw your 250R up at Cowtown drag strips.... That thing was mean he broke the drag record when he was clocked doin 111 on ashpalt...Hes not kidding around that is one mean *** bike

underpowered
03-30-2006, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by 500exracer
Whoa, redracer10!! I saw your 250R up at Cowtown drag strips.... That thing was mean he broke the drag record when he was clocked doin 111 on ashpalt...Hes not kidding around that is one mean *** bike

Nice, creating a new name to act like someone who knows your bike.

03-30-2006, 05:48 PM
what?!?!? I am a Cowtown drag racer and go there every year for there races and he has been there the past 3 years... He won his mod division last year and his Honda 400ex got 3rd to a KFX and Z440.... ask him.

redracer10
03-30-2006, 05:54 PM
what?!?!? I am a Cowtown drag racer and go there every year for there races and he has been there the past 3 years... He won his mod division last year and his Honda 400ex got 3rd to a KFX and Z440.... ask him.



Sounds like my little stalker to me!! I hope your not a guy!

ogre
03-30-2006, 05:59 PM
So how many cc'c is ur 250R, just curious?

redracer10
03-30-2006, 06:22 PM
So how many cc'c is ur 250R, just curious?



My 250R has about 430 in that range give or gain a little both ways.

underpowered
03-30-2006, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by redracer10
So how many cc'c is ur 250R, just curious?



My 250R has about 430 in that range give or gain a little both ways.

But, What gearing are you running? what it your rev limit? tire size?

yamahabanshee19
03-30-2006, 06:38 PM
looks like every other 250r ive ever seen. my banshee will take that and yea i do smoke mustangs with it i have one and i race my mustang all the time and it never stands a chance i didnt say in a top end race i sed in a drag. Its not even a race my banshee will just keep ganing on it. hate to break it to you man but thats nothing special ive seen it all b4 and as for the motor thats no 430.

yamahabanshee19
03-30-2006, 06:44 PM
yea and whats on the 250r u never told us???

yamahabanshee19
03-30-2006, 06:54 PM
http://home.earthlink.net/~gellett/250r.htm heres a nifty little wat to figure out if your lying whats ur tire size rpms and sprocket sizes???

yamahabanshee19
03-30-2006, 06:55 PM
you would have to add 6,000 rpms for your 250r to hit 111mph with 20inch tires and a 13tooth sprocket and a 39 tooth sprocket

ww228king
03-30-2006, 06:56 PM
i would love to see 4200 bill on a 440ex motor alone.....i would slap the shyt out of the man who handed it to me.....plus , the way he axplained his 440ex as haveing $13,000 into it ...it sounded like to me that he was saying motor....he said it would out run this and that and i have $13000 SO IT WILL GO FAST.....DUMB KID ...LOOKS IN MAGS AND LOOK AT A WISH LIST AND POST CRAZY MESS....PLUS THAT 250R THAT YOU SHOW ON THIS POST IS NOT YOURS....AND IF YOU POST SUCH A THING AGAIN ...THE MAN WHO OWNS IT WILL CORRECT YOUR MISTAKE IN PERSON

04'400ex'er
03-30-2006, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by redracer10
Your R will do this in its sleep huh?


We are talkin about racing not throwing sand... And No off the line my R does not throw sand like that but it does throw its share of sand.....plus why are you getting on websites and trying to get banshees that will beat my R... Im sure I would admit there are some but seriously those poster banshees that where posted I think I can probably beat those If I can use both nitris bottles...
That is racing dumb *****. He isn't trying to throw sand, he is haulin ***** and thats the aftermath. I have been on this website longer than you know newbie. Dont bring that up. And I am not trying to "get banshees that will beat your R" , I am simply trying to convince you that your 250R isnt anything special. And that Banshees rule the strip.

You have changed your tune a little since this thread was started, you originally stated you could beat any banshee. And dont repeat your friend ogre about the poster chit.

Just go out to your little shop and take one of the many nitrous bottles you have sitting around off the shelf. Stick the valve to your lips and turn the handle...:chinese:

yamahabanshee19
03-30-2006, 07:02 PM
yea what did u do to a 400ex motor that cost u 4200??? Thought i saw that pic b4

nicktrx400ex
03-30-2006, 07:02 PM
i can hit 120mhp

nicktrx400ex
03-30-2006, 07:03 PM
if i get pulled by a ford lighting

04'400ex'er
03-30-2006, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by 500exracer
Whoa, redracer10!! I saw your 250R up at Cowtown drag strips.... That thing was mean he broke the drag record when he was clocked doin 111 on ashpalt...Hes not kidding around that is one mean *** bike Dude, do you think we are all as nieve as you???:huh :huh :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Nice try

yamahabanshee19
03-30-2006, 07:04 PM
haha

redracer10
03-30-2006, 07:06 PM
But, What gearing are you running? what it your rev limit? tire size?



22 inch tires, 39 inch rear sprocket, 11,500 RPM rev limit, 15/35 gearing

nicktrx400ex
03-30-2006, 07:09 PM
39 inch rear sprocket wats a 39 in. rear sprocket

underpowered
03-30-2006, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by redracer10
But, What gearing are you running? what it your rev limit? tire size?



22 inch tires, 39 inch rear sprocket, 11,500 RPM rev limit, 15/35 gearing

Is it a 39 or a 35? which is it:confused:

yamahabanshee19
03-30-2006, 07:11 PM
wtf is 39inch rear sprocket??? ansd then u change it to 15/35 gearing is it a 39 or a 35 tooth sprocket?? and now way u have an 11500rpm rev limiter

yamahabanshee19
03-30-2006, 07:12 PM
if any 250r could pull that gearing i wud be surprised. According to this gear calculator your quad shud be going 138mph if what u say is true wich it isnt.

04'400ex'er
03-30-2006, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by ww228king
i would love to see 4200 bill on a 440ex motor alone.....i would slap the shyt out of the man who handed it to me.....plus , the way he axplained his 440ex as haveing $13,000 into it ...it sounded like to me that he was saying motor....he said it would out run this and that and i have $13000 SO IT WILL GO FAST.....DUMB KID ...LOOKS IN MAGS AND LOOK AT A WISH LIST AND POST CRAZY MESS....PLUS THAT 250R THAT YOU SHOW ON THIS POST IS NOT YOURS....AND IF YOU POST SUCH A THING AGAIN ...THE MAN WHO OWNS IT WILL CORRECT YOUR MISTAKE IN PERSON I gotta have more info on whos bike this really is... maybe a pic or sumthin. That would be just the thing to top this thread off!:p

redracer10
03-30-2006, 07:16 PM
if any 250r could pull that gearing i wud be surprised. According to this gear calculator your quad shud be going 138mph if what u say is true wich it isnt.



HAHA I dont have a 250R i though It'd be funny to see you guys mouthin me the whole time.... I loved that we should do it again....I really do have a 440EX but not a 250R.... I was just going to see how long it would take before someone noticed....


i would love to see 4200 bill on a 440ex motor alone.....i would slap the shyt out of the man who handed it to me.....plus , the way he axplained his 440ex as haveing $13,000 into it ...it sounded like to me that he was saying motor....he said it would out run this and that and i have $13000 SO IT WILL GO FAST.....DUMB KID ...LOOKS IN MAGS AND LOOK AT A WISH LIST AND POST CRAZY MESS....PLUS THAT 250R THAT YOU SHOW ON THIS POST IS NOT YOURS....AND IF YOU POST SUCH A THING AGAIN ...THE MAN WHO OWNS IT WILL CORRECT YOUR MISTAKE IN PERSON


DUDE WW228KING has got some BrAinpOwA...Props figured it out pretty fast.

ww228king
03-30-2006, 07:16 PM
I THINK HE WAS TRYING TO CONFUSE HIM...LOL....YOU GUYS ARE FAST...LOL.. HE IS STILL TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT ....LOL ((((WHICH ONE SHOULD I SAY)))))....LOL

04'400ex'er
03-30-2006, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by redracer10
But, What gearing are you running? what it your rev limit? tire size?



22 inch tires, 39 inch rear sprocket, 11,500 RPM rev limit, 15/35 gearing Love the contradicting statements about the rear sprockets... and the 22 inch tires. Those tires are stock 20in 400ex tires. but Im sure you have changed them since then.

In the words of Mr. Chappelle..."GOTCHA BEOTCH"

Hahahahahah

yamahabanshee19
03-30-2006, 07:20 PM
wow what a little punk. glad thats over.

yamahabanshee19
03-30-2006, 07:21 PM
that was pretty fun though. lets do it again somtime

yamahabanshee19
03-30-2006, 07:25 PM
butim stil not changin my story my banshee did hit 80mph next to a snowmobile on a snowmobile drag strip this winter

04'400ex'er
03-30-2006, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by redracer10
if any 250r could pull that gearing i wud be surprised. According to this gear calculator your quad shud be going 138mph if what u say is true wich it isnt.



HAHA I dont have a 250R i though It'd be funny to see you guys mouthin me the whole time.... I loved that we should do it again....I really do have a 440EX but not a 250R.... I was just going to see how long it would take before someone noticed....


i would love to see 4200 bill on a 440ex motor alone.....i would slap the shyt out of the man who handed it to me.....plus , the way he axplained his 440ex as haveing $13,000 into it ...it sounded like to me that he was saying motor....he said it would out run this and that and i have $13000 SO IT WILL GO FAST.....DUMB KID ...LOOKS IN MAGS AND LOOK AT A WISH LIST AND POST CRAZY MESS....PLUS THAT 250R THAT YOU SHOW ON THIS POST IS NOT YOURS....AND IF YOU POST SUCH A THING AGAIN ...THE MAN WHO OWNS IT WILL CORRECT YOUR MISTAKE IN PERSON


DUDE WW228KING has got some BrAinpOwA...Props figured it out pretty fast. I wonder if he could be banned for stuff like this???

Go stick your Di*k in your nitro 440's tailpipe. If it's long enough. Too bad you dont have an R though, cuz that would be a better fit.:p

underpowered
03-30-2006, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by redracer10 HAHA I dont have a 250R i though It'd be funny to see you guys mouthin me the whole time.... I loved that we should do it again....I really do have a 440EX but not a 250R.... I was just going to see how long it would take before someone noticed....


You, are officially retarted.

redracer10
03-30-2006, 07:30 PM
Haha I think i officially set a EXRIDERS record by making the whole site argue with me at 1 time....I was just givin you all **** got no probs with any of you guys

04'400ex'er
03-30-2006, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by redracer10
Haha I think i officially set a EXRIDERS record by making the whole site argue with me at 1 time....I was just givin you all **** got no probs with any of you guys This is what you need.

redracer10
03-30-2006, 07:40 PM
This is what you need.


LOL even though its directed toward me...I like it... good one...

EXevan91
03-30-2006, 07:42 PM
your****ing etarded for starting this

redracer10
03-30-2006, 07:43 PM
your****ing etarded for starting this



What you mean??

04'400ex'er
03-30-2006, 07:46 PM
Oh, by the way, what happend to orge. This little guys #1 supporter!:p

redracer10
03-30-2006, 07:48 PM
Oh, by the way, what happend to orge. This little guys #1 supporter!



I dunno but his leash is gunna break if he doesent watch out!!

redracer10
03-30-2006, 07:58 PM
I admit guys, I screwed up by the whole 250R thing... sorry to everyone for the time i wasted you... I was bored and felt like gettin in a arguement to see who would fall for it.... MY APOLAGIES TO EVERYONE... seriously

ogre
03-31-2006, 09:08 AM
First of all turd ticklers!!!, all i said was that it was possible for his R that he supposely had to out run that banshee. If it was tricked out enough. And i was making fun of people finding poster banshees that were faster than his. TURDS

Rico
03-31-2006, 09:17 AM
..

04'400ex'er
03-31-2006, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by ogre
First of all turd ticklers!!!, all i said was that it was possible for his R that he supposely had to out run that banshee. If it was tricked out enough. And i was making fun of people finding poster banshees that were faster than his. TURDS
You just feel stupid now dont you?


Originally posted by ogre
I was taking up for ya, but i dont think the motor would crank enough rpms to run 110 mph.

So thats not all you said!:eek2:

Have a good day!:p

ogre
03-31-2006, 11:09 AM
Your point is. I was disagreeing with him there lol. Just like you were :blah:

Plante400
04-01-2006, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by 04'400ex'er
I will have to say they are great drag racing atv's but thats because they are cheaper to buy aftermarket parts for. And I have seen some wicked fast banshees but they are all cheap atvs when you think about a 2004 banshee compared to a 2004 450R a banshee is quite a bit cheaper and the parts are too. I have beat banshees with my 400EX...

Your posts disgust me. Banshees are not a cheap atv. Go to the dunes and tell me what you see in the campgrounds and crossing the finish line first. When you put a set of built cub cylanders on a shee nearly NO 450 can touch it no matter HOW much is invested. They are a 2 stroke, and they have half the parts on them that a 4 stroke has. that is why they are easier to mod, and cheaper, because there is less there. They are not that much cheaper. And your ex does not do 93MPH. They run 60 stock. :rolleyes: :eek2: Enough with the STUPID POSTS!

i dont really have anything els to say besides a 400ex will do well over 60 stock lol and ive seen it proved, although the bikes are all built differently.. my friends stocker will do 69 70 a little slower then my 440.. i dont really care if u believe it or not but we had someone even next to us going down the road in a car, and on an enduro bike

nicktrx400ex
04-01-2006, 09:12 AM
i was riding on a long strait road about 1/4 mile and i hit 73.8 on a GPS and this was when my 400ex was totaly stock nothing on it