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motochamp250
03-20-2006, 09:45 PM
alright guys when i get ready to open up my motor i was goin with 416 kit with higher compression most likely but what i was wandering is i was gonna choose between hot cams or web cams ...are their any others out their that are good...i want the most power possible money isn't really an issue just want the most power i was thinking webcams.......what are yall's opinions?what grinds to get for mx racing? thanks hunter

6858-400ex
03-21-2006, 05:11 AM
i would recomend the stage 2 hotcams

motochamp250
03-21-2006, 09:16 AM
bump

jsmith2232
03-21-2006, 09:36 AM
I just put together my 416 last week and put in a stage I and am very happy with it...Wheelies in 5th on blacktop are no problem.

motochamp250
03-21-2006, 09:58 AM
hotcams i assume?

MachSp33d
03-21-2006, 09:59 AM
Yeh go with Hotcams!!! Stage 2, with 440 big bore kit. It rocks my socks.

-MachSp33d

motochamp250
03-21-2006, 10:12 AM
anybody here run webcams in their 400 ive rode hotcams i like i juss want some info on webcams haven't really heard much about them...

GPracer2500
03-21-2006, 10:32 AM
You can always get the lift/duration specs and compare to that offered by Hotcams. Many companies offer cams with identical or nearly identical specifications to what other companies offer.

Hotcams' price and not requiring a core (your old cam) is hard to beat if you're satisfied with their lift/duration numbers.

Franky G
03-21-2006, 12:14 PM
I like my stage 1 hotcams

:D

jsmith2232
03-21-2006, 12:18 PM
If you run a search on here I have seen the specs of 6-8 cams offered for a 400ex compared sidebyside but the reason I went with hotcams is 1. no core charge 2.the price is hard to beat 3.you don't need hardwelded rockers to use them.

PismoLocal
03-21-2006, 12:33 PM
Im holding out for the HRC cam I heard they make the most power and that they work with stock rockers.

400exrider707
03-21-2006, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by PismoLocal
Im holding out for the HRC cam I heard they make the most power and that they work with stock rockers.

Also extremely pricey, like in the $400 range.

motochamp250
03-21-2006, 01:27 PM
they make an hrc cam for the 400? i didn't know i'll prolly wait..

PismoLocal
03-21-2006, 02:27 PM
Ya thats why i said holdin out im gonna have to save some money until i get paid again.;)

400exrider707
03-21-2006, 02:35 PM
Its for the xr400 last I knew. Contact Laz at GT Thunder because he swears by them and he would know more about them. I'm pretty sure Rico is running one right now.

#8red
03-21-2006, 04:05 PM
check out whitebros. - after seeing the specs on mine my mech. has put them in others

1fst400
03-21-2006, 06:10 PM
I asked colby at c&d.. now dont quote me on this, but im pretty shrue he said the hrc is a happy medium between the hotcams stage 1 and 2.

My buddie has a hotcams stage 1 in his quad, I dont like it, feels like it falls on its face in upper rpm.

I'm running the stage 2 hotcams.

Pretty much, if your rockers are worn out, get web cam, because the rockers have to be hardened anyways.

other wise hotcams.

coryatver
03-21-2006, 06:38 PM
hrc cam is the way to go. It is really expensive but it is made by honda and that is all that is going in my engine.

honda460ex
03-21-2006, 07:10 PM
I've heard great things about hrc... I own two 400ex's. My 426ex has the more serious motocross web-cam in it, which i think is ok. But for the money to have your rockers hard welded and all, it ain't worth it. I had a stage2 hotcam in my other quad. It ran great! Now it's in my friends 426ex and he loves it. Now I have a stroker hotcam, specifically designed for what I have done to my motor though. +4mm stroke... But it does awesome too! I guess I'm partial to hotcams for the small fact that I have had two of them, and great luck with both.

#8red
03-22-2006, 09:49 AM
that one from whitebros doesn't require ya' to have hardfaced rockers - I'm sure there are better ones - but require hardfaced $$$$ - that's why I used it - my mech. said w/ any more lift to it I'd have to change my rockers - and it sure made a BIG diff. -

400ex28
03-22-2006, 11:15 AM
I'm running the new stage 2 hotcam and it's great.

sprtrx300ex
03-22-2006, 04:45 PM
TC Mx 924 ... enough said.

motochamp250
03-22-2006, 04:51 PM
do you have to harden your rockers for the TC cam or is a drop in? what is the price?also ur sig says you have a TC motor if you don't mind me askin how much that cost? what all is included and what was the turnaround time? thanks

dirtmomma
03-22-2006, 04:58 PM
WE run a XR400 cam in my 426ex, it's a little noisy though, I think when we get the extra $$ we may get a HotCam to see the difference one of our friends that has a 440 stroker says our cam is "different" LOL

I would go w/ the HOtCams also!! I run a WEB in my 300ex & had to get hardened rockers for it!! BUT I lvoe it!!

NacsMXer
03-22-2006, 05:14 PM
I run a HRC cam in my GT Thunder stroker race motor. By FAR, the best cam I have ever used. Blows the standard Hotcam Stage 1/2 out of the water no contest... Not to say that they are not good cams because they are; BUT the HRC will yield more usable gains and less holes in the powerband than the Hotcam. I really can't say enough about it, if any of you rode my quad, you would believe for yourself :devil: Revs like you wouldn't believe for such a long stroker (+7mm). Save your cash and you won't be disappointed ;)

The TC is also a good choice. Doesn't get any better than running a Honda racing cam with the factory decompression in a Honda engine IMO :D

sprtrx300ex
03-22-2006, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by motochamp250
do you have to harden your rockers for the TC cam or is a drop in? what is the price?also ur sig says you have a TC motor if you don't mind me askin how much that cost? what all is included and what was the turnaround time? thanks

I do not hav hardened rockers, just stock...

Im not sure on the price of the cam itself, I bought the motor complete from a member on this site for about $1500...