2006 ATVA MX Nationals Round #1 – Glen Helen - Discussion

[Admin]

Here is a thread to discuss everything related to the opening round of the ATVA MX Nationals at Glen Helen.

I am leaving for California on Tuesday, so ATVriders.com will be providing pre race information along with updates from the track through out this upcoming weekend. I am sure excited about the opening round with level of competitiveness in the Pro Class, the winner could be anyone of easily ten riders that come to my mind.

Last Year, Tim Farr surprised everyone by winning both Motos, so there may be another surprise winner this year in th Pro Class. Also, there is 31 Classes racing this weekend, so there will plenty of other very exciting racing action.

Who will win the opening round in the Women's A Class? Will there be a new face to the Nationals that makes his/her presence known right away? All these questions keep things exciting, and all I wish for is that everyone has fun and hopefully no one heads home injured.

Finally, I personally may be racing in the opening round, which would be my first ever ATVA MX National event. The last time I raced MX was at the ATV Olympics on John Natalie Jr machine, and I had a blast and even finished fairly well against some tough competition with a 3rd overall for the weekend in the Vet Class.

Harlen

[Atkins]

Hey, I would just like to put this out there, can anyone from the NEATV-MX circuit vouche for this? Brown had some good pro finishes last year in the national circuit, but everytime he came around to NEATV on an off week, he got schooled by Creamer, and usually Haavisto too. Since Creamer only raced like 1 or 2 races in Pro in the nationals with mechanical issues before beating everyone in Pro-Ams, have we really seen what he can do against the pros? I think he had the best lap time at a national last year.

[USAMoto00]

Speaking of the Womens class, how do the rules work for them this year? The AMA rules were vague about being able to race in B, C, and age groups. So does that mean that a girl racer with a Production 450 and B/C level could race Womens and Womens Sport too? My girlfriend asked me and I wasn't sure how it was to be interpreted. Thanks ahead of time.

[reconmaster]

since i mainly follow the pro class
i belive john natalie is still on fire and it will take alot to stop him gust is gonna be on his tail all race jones and farr will be battling for 3rd place because from the last two years of highlight videos from ******** i have noticed they all ways battle for last podium spot pat browns gonna hev 5th for sure but ellis and dunk will be on his tail for that 5th spot

[Cdaleracer]

Well, it's Womans PRODUCTION(used to be womans A) and Womans OPEN. (used to be womans B/C)

[jones5790]

Everyone better rethink their predictions for the new season.Just because you win the championship, doesn't mean you're a sure in for another.At the end of last season , eveyone got to see Natalie wasn't invincible. He got his fair share of bad luck(crashing in both of the last 2 races).Most of everyone are riding new products or different bikes.If you want my prediction , better watch out for team Suzuki. Jones has been training harder than ever and he's not riding a thirty pound heavier dinosaur.The playing field is deffinatley going to be changed.

[z03n05]

I agree. I think Jones or Gust will win Glen Helen if they avoid crashing and both get good starts. I think if Jones will have more consistant starts, he will win it all this year.

[Out_Sider]

I'm gonna be keeping an eye on Production B and 265 B this year.. hoping to be racing those two classes this year as well :macho

[badvox]

Originally posted by Admin
Who will win the opening round in the Women's A Class?[/B]

Fresh off the win at ITP Quadcross I have to go with Cory!

Get that broom finished and go whoop some arse!!!

Good look Weller Racing!!

[pitmomts]

Go Harlen!!! Lots of luck to Natalie, and mechanic Dee Manshack!!!! :macho From what hear, Pat Brown is going to be smokin this year. It's sure going to be exciting!!! But the "amateurs" are going to put on a show, too, so it's all going to be fun to watch! Can't make it to Cali, but counting the days for Oak Hill !!!:D

[becci4]

Well I would just like to say that this is going to be the start of a great season. I cant wait to get to the track we are leaving sometime today. I cant wait to see everyone thats going out their it is going to be a blast. Well this year people have thoughts of who is going to win round one as for my self im not to sure eveybody seems to be getting faster so it's going to be one hell of a weekend. Cant wait to see what happens.

Nick Becci #4

[Ex_Rider43]

I juste want to wish the best of luck to the 4 time canadian champion Richard Pelchat , he made the trip to California and he will race there this sunday. The trip to california from here is around 50 hours probably more so lets hope he wont be too tired to race !

[Atkins]

I have my doubts about team Suzuki. They have 2 amazing riders, but I just don't think they have the practice on the new model yet to be competitive, when alot of the guys are racing the same breed of quads they have been for 1 or 2 seasons already. My prediction for team Suzuki is a slow start with some wins coming later in the season.

Im also lookingforward to hearing about some amatuers out there. Since it's the only race on the west coast, Im expecting alot of west coast guys on a budget that cant make it out east to race to show some real competition in the Am classes.

[USAMoto00]

Originally posted by Cdaleracer
Well, it's Womans PRODUCTION(used to be womans A) and Womans OPEN. (used to be womans B/C)

So now there is no classification to the classes, so does that mean that a girl with a production 450 can race both classes? Or is the production class A level riders only? I'm just curious so I can let the ole lady know. lol Thanks. Oh yea, that would mean that the other class is an Open class and it would be amatures. Kinda seems backwards. AMA I guess. lol

[QuadJunkies]

Cant ewait to see how the wk end turns out ..

Harlen, go have yourself a GREAT time and Best of luck to the Idaho boyz .this will be ALOT of there 1st racing at Glen Helen.

[Zracer15]

Just wanted to say good luck to the Oregon boys, and expecially my bro racing the blaster. I wish I could have gone, my bike just wasnt ready and I am in collage. DAMN.

Well good luck to everyone and lets hope it all turns out to be a fun safe weekend.

Later :)

[smr]

watch out for JJones. Just my prediction.

[logangsxr998]

here my prediction-
-Farr for Pro-class
- Mark Kendal and Josh Upperman for Pro-Am

[SRPracer2]

1-John Natalie
2-Kory Ellis
3-Doug Gust
4-Jeremiah Jones
5-Joe Haavisto

[mike bartolini]

just becase doug & jones is on a new bike dont think thay will win thay still have to make up 15 sec go john & tim

[badvox]

Originally posted by mike bartolini
just becase doug & jones is on a new bike dont think thay will win thay still have to make up 15 sec go john & tim

Why do they still have to make up 15 seconds? Can you actually explain your point?

[hontrx265r]

he said that because natalie was extremely fast and thats about how much of a lead he had every race last year when he got out in front! I'm pullin for jones!

[tuefelhunden]

Did anybody notice Tim Farr's "real" PEP piggyback shocks:eek2:

[Quad12]

Yep.. Ive got a set of them on mine also, if you run PEP shocks call Seth @ SF Racing and he will hook you up...

[Quad12]

I take back whatI said in the previous post I took another look at his and they are "real" piggybacks, they look pretty sweet.

The ones I have just mount the reservoir on the shock.

[tuefelhunden]

Originally posted by Quad12
Yep.. Ive got a set of them on mine also, if you run PEP shocks call Seth @ SF Racing and he will hook you up...

Ian, don't you just have the piggyback shocks with the clamp on bottles? The ones on Tim's bike are real piggybacks

[atvmx14]

Go Walter Baum, Nate Walsh, and Jake Hakala.
Kick Some Arsh:devil:

[atvmx14]

Anybody notice that Natalie doesn't have those Track System Shocks on his Ride. Just the Elite's. HUH!!

[itlnstln]

If possible, could we get result for the Pro-am Production, Pro-am Unlimited and Production A classes???

[tuefelhunden]

I think they usually post all results by Tuesday or Wednesday. Check tonight though, they might have qualifier results posted on here also.

[Quad18star]

I've heard that Richard Pelchat will be making the trip to all the US Nationals if they don't conflict with our Canadian Nationals which usually don't start till late spring .

[bradley300]

i was really hopng to see yoke mix it up with the gnc pro's:(

[quadchick3]

And results for the womens class!!

[JHF219]

what time is pro qualifiers ?

[450r51]

any updates????

[400grl]

Originally posted by badvox
Fresh off the win at ITP Quadcross I have to go with Cory!

Get that broom finished and go whoop some arse!!!

Good look Weller Racing!!

YOU ARE SWEET!!!! But unfortunately, we can only make so many trips to Cali in a row.......we aren't able to be at this round....:( but if I were, I'd be racing with Michelle R. in the Women's Production!!!!

One fast chick to keep an eye on - Adrienne Cooper. She's my main competition, and she's VERY fast at GH.....shes' running women's Sport - and I should slap her :macho - she could be running Women's Production and be right up there in the top 3...........but I think she's easing into the series in the Sport class.....

Anyway - can't wait for today - even if I have to watch it all from a computer screen!!! :D

[400grl]

Anyone notice Natalie running Flexx bars?? :D Smart man!!!:blah:

[JHF219]

anyone got any kind of updates, info ? i need to know !!

[jwick07]

sombody post somthing please!!!!!!!!!!

[JHF219]

Id say Keep an eye out for Dana Creech, and also Travis Spader(my favorites). JJones is insanely fast, but he has had bad luck for the last 2 seasons. Dont count gust out, Natalie will most likely win(hes almost unstoppable) and be sure to watch for Pat Brown.

There hasnt been any mention of Jason Luburgh? is he running GH? if so watch him, seen him race KY last year hes very very talented just needs a good start.

[redrider05]

i wonder y natalie doesnt run his signature bumper from blingstar?

[extremeblastr]

Originally posted by Atkins
Hey, I would just like to put this out there, can anyone from the NEATV-MX circuit vouche for this? Brown had some good pro finishes last year in the national circuit, but everytime he came around to NEATV on an off week, he got schooled by Creamer, and usually Haavisto too. Since Creamer only raced like 1 or 2 races in Pro in the nationals with mechanical issues before beating everyone in Pro-Ams, have we really seen what he can do against the pros? I think he had the best lap time at a national last year.

i will vouche for that creamer is scary fast around new england and if the pros were to come back to southwick i think that it would be a huge surprise for a lot of people how well he would do. Creamer has the potential and the backing to be the next big thing in the pro class so watch out natalie cuz here he comes(of course this will be after he recovers from his wrist injury)

[MXRACER86]

Did anyone else notice that gust and jones have cut fenders!

Thier factory LTR450 sure sits nice and low.

[kevin00]

stock tires too??
there rears are on beadlocks so I guess thats what their going to run.
wish they would race the yellow not white.

[brink400]

one of the other pics shows Jeremiah running Holeshots on his LTR, so id imagine thats what he'll be running in the race. Especially since they are sponsored by ITP so they might get a little pissed if they run stock tires.

[YAMAHAVIPER]

GET ON THE GAS PAT BROWN.

[slosh13]

That is not really true. Have you ever noticed Farr? It seems like he is sponsored by ITP but every now and then he runs Maxxis Razr MX's, Kenda's, Turf Tamers, Holeshots. He pretty much runs whatever the track conditions call for. Thats just something I have noticed.

[Cody_300ex]

Originally posted by slosh13
That is not really true. Have you ever noticed Farr? It seems like he is sponsored by ITP but every now and then he runs Maxxis Razr MX's, Kenda's, Turf Tamers, Holeshots. He pretty much runs whatever the track conditions call for. Thats just something I have noticed.

ITP makes turf tamers....

[MXRACER86]

For the first round gust will be on stock tires and jones will be on ITP

[slosh13]

ITP makes turf tamers....

I didn't mean to put the turfs in the "other" tire category. :blah: I wonder why Gust is running stock and Jones is running ITP. You would think team members would run similar setups, other than suspension settings.

[400grl]

Maybe today they are running them both so they can tell which will work better for tomorrow.....just a guess.

Anyone hear ANYTHING yet?

[kevin00]

personal prefrence i guess.
funny thing is I dont see any ITP stickers on their quads. :confused: so maybe ITP isn't even an official sposor.
Harlen could probably clear this up.

[duncan440ex]

wasn't jones running grooved turf tamers at loretta lynn's last year

[mattinglyquadmx]

Originally posted by duncan440ex
wasn't jones running grooved turf tamers at loretta lynn's last year

sure was and he also ran grooved turf tamers at muddy creek!

[Fred55]

ITP makes turf tamers so he was still running an ITP tire there.

[JDMXKID]

ANYTHING YET?!!! I'm going crazy!

[bad01300ex]

Originally posted by redrider05
i wonder y natalie doesnt run his signature bumper from blingstar?


cause its freakin ugly!!!

[quadboy38]

did anyone check out tim farrs shocks?

[timx2]

Is there going to be race coverage tommorrow for the pros? I thought I had read that a month or so back..

[Atkins]

F*CK!!!!!!!!!!:mad:

Creamers down for this week. Any word on when he'll be healed up?

[jayman7]

creamer will be back around florida or georgia. he had surgery on friday

[MadSea862]

Congrats to....

Grant Mitchell he took 7th in the 90cc Production Jr. Class!

Way to go kiddo! Your first national and inside the top 10.

Great Job!!!

[R3Concepts]

Originally posted by quadboy38
did anyone check out tim farrs shocks?

Now the public gets to see the TRUE, PEP piggyback shock, and not the clamp for the 8 click.

[seven]

Lets get some results!

[yfz_33_mx]

Nothing new? How is Brown running?

[Airik79mx]

Originally posted by R3Concepts
Now the public gets to see the TRUE, PEP piggyback shock, and not the clamp for the 8 click.


Yes I did see that....Looks ok.. I think the remote's look good too.

[300exDude01]

Looking for results on the 90 mod and Junior Production classes!

[pixmom]

Well, it's 5:30 in CA and I guess nobody wants to let us know what's going on....Nate McNett was just here and said Matt White won the Pro-Am class today and was winning his Pro qualifier until he and Haavisto got into each other.

I do not like not knowing what is happening. Just wait until somebody can't make it to a race and asks me to let them know what's going on!

Debi
88 4Ever

[400grl]

White and Haavisto were both strong in their motos last weekend.......doesn't surprise me that they were out front in their heat race......

[jakesteak26]

anybody kno results 4 production a & b races today?

[baker250r]

Only 1 250r out there? thats bad.

[450r51]

nothing???? are u kidding me.....show some results geez.....what happened to matt white?....hope hes not hurt.

[quadchick3]

Womens production

1st Heather Byrd
2nd Angela Butler
3rd Jami Luburgh

***Jason Luburgh won his pro qualifer today

[Sisco53]

who all was in his pro qualifier?

[badvox]

Originally posted by 300exDude01
Looking for results on the 90 mod and Junior Production classes!

Joel Hetrick won his moto

didnt see the other

70 -90cc Production missed one moto but the second was won by Jesse Skvareck #32

Tyler Pittman also won his moto

[badvox]

Originally posted by 400grl
White and Haavisto were both strong in their motos last weekend.......doesn't surprise me that they were out front in their heat race......

Good guess Cory!! It was amazing that Pat Brown and #75 is that Haavisto ? I believe went 1 and 2 in the first Pro Moto

Jason Lubergh won the second moto

Moto #1 was just frickin amazing lots of lead changes and lots of spills and chills. There was a 3 quad pile up at the start coming out of turn #1. It left Lysinger dead last.

Also in Moto #1 sorry I dont know the exact order but for sure Pat Brown, Dana Creech and #75 sorry about the #75 I think its Haavisto. It was so crazy and exciting I should have taken notes.

[badvox]

Edited - Look this original post was intended to give my opinion about my experience at Saturdays event. You can all say what you want about me thats fine its a free country.

What I said originally did occur and that cannot change however in no way is this a racers fault.

Now go ahead and flame me for editing my own post I dont care.

[450r51]

team suzuki thinks there above everyone.....they will get slapped with reality this year ill tell u that....cuz i beleive they wont even be in the top 5.

[coryatver]

Originally posted by 450r51
team suzuki thinks there above everyone.....they will get slapped with reality this year ill tell u that....cuz i beleive they wont even be in the top 5.

If they don't win tomorow they will cry and petition whoever does win. I really do get a feeling that they are to good for us or whatever. Well everyone wants the sport to get bigger the days of small teams and hanging out with the pros at races are numbered. We will have to watch it on TV like Nascar.

[badvox]

Originally posted by coryatver
If they don't win tomorow they will cry and petition whoever does win. I really do get a feeling that they are to good for us or whatever. Well everyone wants the sport to get bigger the days of small teams and hanging out with the pros at races are numbered. We will have to watch it on TV like Nascar.

Well for now we still have all the others like Creech, Natalie, Pat Brown, Byrd, Farr, etc. etc.

My prediction NO WAY suzuki podiums tomorrow. The Pro race is at 12 noon cali time. So we'll know soon enough. Creech, Brown, Haavisto, and White are running really strong.

At practice Creech kept cutting the course and running a couple lines over and over. It paid off for him too because that same area was where he was making al his passes.

Its very hard to predict the race though because the top 10 do not qualify. So I didnt get to see them in competition today. However Natalie was very very strong last week and Pat Brown I really feel would have won last week had he not broken his axle.

[450Racer]

and to Team Suzuki...if they are really that ignorant to push aside there fans, they'll have none. the fans are 99% of what gets them there. that'll ruin there rep fast enough. i went training with Natalie over the summer. i called him up, with respect, but we talked like normal people and acted down to earth, extremely nice, and did 110% for me. my bearing carrier broke so we went to his garage and got a new one on there and i was back out on the track with him in an hour. he spent an hour working on my quad and didn't charge me anything. he's so so awesome. he definilty deserves the "People Champion" award. i respect the talent that Team Suzuki has but it's absolutely disgusting and disrespectful for them to act like that. not to go against anyone's word, but i really hope that they don't do that 100% of the time.

[450r51]

isnt the pro main on sunday? and not saturday

[450Racer]

Originally posted by 450r51
isnt the pro main on sunday? and not saturday

whoops. jumped the gun didn't i? haha, i'm so tense i guess i skipped a day. haha. wow.

[STEVENJANNA]

Two things:
1. Where's the coverage of the Pro qualifier?
2. When popularity gets ahold of a sport most of it's elite become out of reach to the common person. If our sport keeps growing I would expect it to start happening more and more, such is life.

[bud14]

does any one know how dustin nelson finshed in the pro Q? thanks

[badvox]

Originally posted by bud14
does any one know how dustin nelson finshed in the pro Q? thanks

My bad Dustin Nelson finished 2nd in the second Moto and 3rd was uhhhhhh Goodman I believe.

[nowukno]

Originally posted by Admin
John Natalie Jr was busy dialing in his Honda as well, and with HMF's Hans making the trip out from Ohio to install John Natalie's Signature Series Exhaust.


Anyone know if/when the HMF john natalie "ironman" exhaust will be available?

[culookn]

man i cant wait until the race coverage tom.

[Admin]

Saturday Results are posted. Click on link to ATVA MX Nationals on the Homepage for results.

Would post photos tonight, but I am just too worn out.

I doubt their will be live coverage because only one person offered to help out for one moto, so we will see, but I will post results after each Pro moto

[Thump_It]

To the people complaining about Suzuki.....they are going to be busy right now. Introducing the new quad to the media and all that. Since the LTR450 hasn't been out that long I'm sure they are still trying to fine tune it for the ultimate performance on Sunday. Don't be so selfish to say that they won't give you the time of day, they've got things going on at the moment. Have some patience, they're still having an autograph session. They are out there to win a GNC race, not a GNC fan.

[coryatver]

its not like everyone else doesn't have things going on also??

[z03n05]

Suzuki isn't trying to act like rock stars. I can't believe how people are bashing them for trying to elevate this sport to the next level. I know that it is sad that they didn't take the time to spend a few minutes with your son, but the riders are part of a team, and I'm sure the team manager has set the guidelines. If they take the time to sit and chat with one person's child what if a line forms and then they have to tell some of the fans no. That is why they have an autograph session. I wish we could have it the old way too, because I have talk to Doug and Jeremiah before at a national and it was great, but I will accept this if that is what it takes to get our sport the spotlight it deserves. Doug and Gust are two of the nicest and sincere racers I have ever met and I know that they haven't suddenly turned into "rock stars". Try going to a AMA national or supercross event and talk to RC, Stewart or any of the other racers at a time other than the autograph session. Now with that said, I can't wait to hear what happens Sunday! Wish I could be there.:cool:

[ml450r]

Originally posted by z03n05
Suzuki isn't trying to act like rock stars. I can't believe how people are bashing them for trying to elevate this sport to the next level. I know that it is sad that they didn't take the time to spend a few minutes with your son, but the riders are part of a team, and I'm sure the team manager has set the guidelines. If they take the time to sit and chat with one person's child what if a line forms and then they have to tell some of the fans no. That is why they have an autograph session. I wish we could have it the old way too, because I have talk to Doug and Jeremiah before at a national and it was great, but I will accept this if thai is what it yakes to get our sport the spotlight it deserves. Doug and Gust are to of the nicest and sincere racers I have ever met and I know that they haven't suddenly turned into "rock stars". Try going to a AMA national or supercross event and talk to RC, Stewart or any of the other racers at a time other than the autograph session. Now with that said, I can't wait to hear what happens Sunday! Wish I could be there.:cool:


I couldn't have said it better. Our sport is going places which brings great oppurtunities for the the pro riders and future pros. I don't care if we can't talk to them like we know them. At least they are finally getting PAID......caching..lol

[robman]

Buisness first,they hafto get those quads dialed in.I'm sure they'll sign autographs after the racing is done.

[STEVENJANNA]

Originally posted by z03n05
Suzuki isn't trying to act like rock stars. I can't believe how people are bashing them for trying to elevate this sport to the next level. I know that it is sad that they didn't take the time to spend a few minutes with your son, but the riders are part of a team, and I'm sure the team manager has set the guidelines. If they take the time to sit and chat with one person's child what if a line forms and then they have to tell some of the fans no. That is why they have an autograph session. I wish we could have it the old way too, because I have talk to Doug and Jeremiah before at a national and it was great, but I will accept this if thai is what it yakes to get our sport the spotlight it deserves. Doug and Gust are to of the nicest and sincere racers I have ever met and I know that they haven't suddenly turned into "rock stars". Try going to a AMA national or supercross event and talk to RC, Stewart or any of the other racers at a time other than the autograph session. Now with that said, I can't wait to hear what happens Sunday! Wish I could be there.:cool:
That was basically what I was hinting at and I agree they probably aren't "TRYING" to act like "ROCK STARS" but that doesn't mean they aren't acting like them either. That is the natural progression of popularity, you see it every where from high schools to the business world to motocross to nascar. I guarantee that the more forward progress that the sport takes and the more years that pass will bring more and more of it. It's not saying anything negative about the people involved now. The pro racers who are going to be jerks about being popular are the young guys who turn pro 5 to 10 years from now who think that factory sponsorship and 6 figure salaries is the way it's always been. All I can say is fasten your seat belts guys because we aren't going to be able to hold our favorite little sport in our back pockets for much longer. Here is a perfect analogy of what is happening.... You have a favorite local rock band, you saw them playing in a p.o.s. bar and there were 5 people in the room (they were awesome). You fell in love with there music, you spread the word, you see them every chance you get, in between sets you talk with them, there the greatest guys in the world.........2 years later they get discovered they're a hit, you scrape together $100 to see them at the arena, later you try to go back stage to say Hi and your stoppped by the H.R. man and he doesn't care who you are......anyway you can see where I'm going with this.

[logangsxr998]

I can't find the results to Pro-Am, any ideas?

[walker054]

Get on atvriders home page.

[quadchick3]

Originally posted by 450r51
team suzuki thinks there above everyone.....they will get slapped with reality this year ill tell u that....cuz i beleive they wont even be in the top 5.

I think it takes alot of balls from you guys to sit at home behind your computers hiding and bashing suzuki. have you forgotten how much they have put into our sport? have you forgotten how team suzuki helped us raise money for the mobile medical unit all last season?
Its funny how you guys are all so much more worried about your favorite pro being protested, if they're legal then whats the problem? Suzuki isnt crying theyre just there to keep everyone on their toes and make sure there is nothing illegal going on. You guys would be amazed at 1/2 the illegal stuff that goes on at the GNC series that no one knows and talks about.

Again just my 2cents

[400grl]

Ok......I think I have a new rant....why is it that people can run a class locally forever...then enter another race organization and drop down one or two classes? Pro's dropping down....A riders dropping down.....I mean.........I don't know. Maybe it bothers me because if I go up a class....I race that class no matter what. Maybe I should change my way of thinking.......because it seems that no one else sticks with any particular class. Seems to be changeable depending on who they are racing that day.........:confused:

sorry :).....carry on....back to the Suzuki thing......

Which, by the way - accurate or not - I, too, tend to get the "Prima Donna" vibe from Suzuki ......... but I don't deal with them at all....so....it's just perception.

[MXRACER86]

Originally posted by 400grl
Ok......I think I have a new rant....why is it that people can run a class locally forever...then enter another race organization and drop down one or two classes? Pro's dropping down....A riders dropping down.....I mean.........I don't know. Maybe it bothers me because if I go up a class....I race that class no matter what. Maybe I should change my way of thinking.......because it seems that no one else sticks with any particular class. Seems to be changeable depending on who they are racing that day.........:confused:

sorry :).....carry on....back to the Suzuki thing......

Which, by the way - accurate or not - I, too, tend to get the "Prima Donna" vibe from Suzuki ......... but I don't deal with them at all....so....it's just perception.

I completely agree! This makes me angry! Like for instance, I plan on racing production "C" at unadilla, I have to save up for months for this race! And take off from work! But now with all these SANDBAGGERS in the "C" class I might not be able to qualify! Now I just wasted all this time and money cause some people get the satisfaction of winning the "C" class when he/she suppose to be running the "B" or "A" class!:mad: Oh and I know who some of you are!!!!!DON"T SANDBAGG!!!!!!!!!!!

Team Suzuki bashers... QUIT YOUR WHINING!! Man they just drop these new quads off the ship from Japan 2 weeks ago, aftermarket is working double time to get race parts available, and Team Suzuki is focused on dialing in a brand new machine from the tires up for the first national of the year. Maybe if Jones and Gust wiped your ***** for you you would feel like they care.

[MXRACER86]

And for the Suzuki thing, You guys better STFU!!!!!! The only manufactur that is actually "out" there and you people are bashing them!!!!! It's people like you that are gonna send this sport back to the '90's!!!!!!!!!:mad:

[STEVENJANNA]

Originally posted by 400grl
Ok......I think I have a new rant....why is it that people can run a class locally forever...then enter another race organization and drop down one or two classes? Pro's dropping down....A riders dropping down.....I mean.........I don't know. Maybe it bothers me because if I go up a class....I race that class no matter what. Maybe I should change my way of thinking.......because it seems that no one else sticks with any particular class. Seems to be changeable depending on who they are racing that day.........:confused:

sorry :).....carry on....back to the Suzuki thing......

Which, by the way - accurate or not - I, too, tend to get the "Prima Donna" vibe from Suzuki ......... but I don't deal with them at all....so....it's just perception.
1. I HATE (and I don't use that word much) sandbaggers!!!
2. Perception is reality

[JHF219]

Originally posted by MXRACER86
And for the Suzuki thing, You guys better STFU!!!!!! The only manufactur that is actually "out" there and you people are bashing them!!!!! It's people like you that are gonna send this sport back to the '90's!!!!!!!!!:mad:

Man there are sandbaggers in every class, most of the guys that run c, b, a, and win(top three) are usually the same speed thats what ive seen. Sandbaggers will always exist.

To the suzuki bashers, stop *****ing, they have sunk more time and money into this sport then ANY OTHER manufacturer. Even when they didnt have a 450 quad they still put 120% into the sport. thats dedication to take the sport to the next level... Now they have a 450 and they have to get this thing dialed in. Im pullin for spader and creech(my 2 favorite riders) but i bet there will be a mixture on the podium today red, blue, and yellow.

JHF

Originally posted by MXRACER86
It's people like you that are gonna send this sport back to the '90's!!!!!!!!!:mad:



Please don't do that, I don't want my piece of junk 250r back. LOL

[MXRACER86]

Originally posted by ACEOUTDOOR
Please don't do that, I don't want my piece of junk 250r back. LOL
AMEN!!!

[STEVENJANNA]

Wow this thread spun way off topic didn't it?:rolleyes:

[JHF219]

Originally posted by STEVENJANNA
Wow this thread spun way off topic didn't it?:rolleyes:

we need updates :ermm: just seeing results doesnt do it for me :devil:

[MXRACER86]

yea without updates this thread is asking for a war! Lmao!

[STEVENJANNA]

check it out guys and gals
http://www.gearracewear.com/atvmxnat/index.htm
Live webcast from MotoTees website. It starts when the broadcast starts at the track. East coast @ 2:45pm

[JHF219]

Originally posted by STEVENJANNA
check it out guys and gals
http://www.gearracewear.com/atvmxnat/index.htm
Live webcast from MotoTees website. It starts when the broadcast starts at the track. East coast @ 2:45pm

your the man, can we still piss and moan till the webcast starts?:cool:

[Die hard honda]

Originally posted by z03n05
Suzuki isn't trying to act like rock stars. I can't believe how people are bashing them for trying to elevate this sport to the next level. I know that it is sad that they didn't take the time to spend a few minutes with your son, but the riders are part of a team, and I'm sure the team manager has set the guidelines. If they take the time to sit and chat with one person's child what if a line forms and then they have to tell some of the fans no. That is why they have an autograph session. I wish we could have it the old way too, because I have talk to Doug and Jeremiah before at a national and it was great, but I will accept this if that is what it takes to get our sport the spotlight it deserves. Doug and Gust are two of the nicest and sincere racers I have ever met and I know that they haven't suddenly turned into "rock stars". Try going to a AMA national or supercross event and talk to RC, Stewart or any of the other racers at a time other than the autograph session. Now with that said, I can't wait to hear what happens Sunday! Wish I could be there.:cool:


you can say that, but Natalie and Farr are doing awesome, trying to take to sport to the next level, yet they still have time to meet the fans? In almost any sport, the fans are one of the most important things. the fans are the ones that buy the suzuki, honda, or yamaha, and if suzuki pushes the fans away, they're just pushing away the business. they're screwing themselves.

[jones5790]

For all of you so called race fans who think Team Suzuki is stuck-up or ignoring you,be glad that a factory team has anything to do with our sport.Everyone is used to the old days when fans could walk right up under anyone's tent and talk or get an autograph.Things will change for everyone when more full factory teams are formed.If you go to a pro-dirt bike event,the only time you see any of the riders up close is only during the autograph session.This is the first race of the season,and everyone has alot of pressure on them.Stop crying because you might have to stand in line for an autograph.

[STEVENJANNA]

Originally posted by z03n05
Suzuki isn't trying to act like rock stars. I can't believe how people are bashing them for trying to elevate this sport to the next level. I know that it is sad that they didn't take the time to spend a few minutes with your son, but the riders are part of a team, and I'm sure the team manager has set the guidelines. If they take the time to sit and chat with one person's child what if a line forms and then they have to tell some of the fans no. That is why they have an autograph session. I wish we could have it the old way too, because I have talk to Doug and Jeremiah before at a national and it was great, but I will accept this if that is what it takes to get our sport the spotlight it deserves. Doug and Gust are two of the nicest and sincere racers I have ever met and I know that they haven't suddenly turned into "rock stars". Try going to a AMA national or supercross event and talk to RC, Stewart or any of the other racers at a time other than the autograph session. Now with that said, I can't wait to hear what happens Sunday! Wish I could be there.:cool:
I'm gonna have to call you out on this. Do you really think that "Doug and Gust" are two different people? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that it was only a typo (I hope).

[badvox]

I didnt want to start some ***** fest just making my observations of the day. So here is another that I thought was really great and indicative of the sport.

While standing over at Natalie's tent after practice an A class rider came over and asked "Hey, where can I get numbers if I want to run the Pro Am qualifier?"

A couple poeple chimed in with who had them at the track.
Natalie jumped in and said "if those people cant help you come back and we'll hook you up"

There, something nice to discuss.

[400grl]

Yep.....sounds like John!! :) Even after not seeing us for a year, as soon as we got to GH last weekend, he was probably the first person to our trailer to say HI......."nice" goes a long ways.......;) The fact that he's fast as heck is just a bonus......hahhahahaha

[newyorkboy]

Does anyone know if natalie is racing the E-start or the kick start?

Originally posted by badvox
I didnt want to start some ***** fest just making my observations of the day.


Yeah right.... Thats why you went on other sites and wrote the same thing. To put it nicely i think you are a little too "Sensitive".

[badvox]

The wind has arrived at Glen Helen today. I dont know how hard its blowing but all the flags are straight out and all the flag poles are bending in the wind.

If ya try to talk to someone via cell phone all you can hear is the wind in the background.

[400grl]

Crap.....I was wondering how long their luck would hold out with the weather - we used it all up last weekend!....Glen Helen wind really sucks for the races.....blows you all over in the air and makes the pits a MESS!!!

[RATHRACING450R]

so what time will the live coverage be starting then?

[yoshz400rider]

Update from the track**

The wind is gusting from 30 to 50 mph and the temps are perfect in the mid 70's.

[450Racer]

i talked to Natalie last year. the plan was to run the Kick version for his practice bikes and the ER for the race bike. i'm not sure if that's what he's doing now but that's what he told me last year. in the practice pictures you can see he has a kickstarter but later when the pics are up, check it out. you'll probably see the battery.

[cady#1]

Originally posted by STEVENJANNA
Two things:
1. Where's the coverage of the Pro qualifier?
2. When popularity gets ahold of a sport most of it's elite become out of reach to the common person. If our sport keeps growing I would expect it to start happening more and more, such is life.

Good post. Not that I don't agree with everyone else, but, dang it started to sound like Gust and Jones are stuck up.

[JHF219]

Does anyone have a list of what pros are going to the main? I tried reading the results page but i was confused as to made it in and who didnt.

The top 10 from last year stay, who are the other 10?

JHF

[RATHRACING450R]

where the heck is the "live coverage"?

[lemondropracing]

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT SUZUKI HAS DONE FOR OUR SPORT??????? bring a tractor trailer to the races that regular folk are not aloud in? first factory to sponsor pro riders and then they won't talk to people anymore? THE WHOLE SUZUKI TEAM GIVES OFF BAD VIBES AS IF THEY ARE ABOVE EVERONE! WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS SELLING QUADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats why they are in it not to "HELP OUR SPORT" its all about the money and if you think different your not to bright!!! THEY BETTER FIGURE OUT HOW TO TREAT PEOPLE IF THEY WANT TO SELL THEM THINGS TO NATIONAL REGULARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[z03n05]

Originally posted by STEVENJANNA
I'm gonna have to call you out on this. Do you really think that "Doug and Gust" are two different people? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that it was only a typo (I hope).

:D Thanks for catching that! Meant to type Doug and Jeremiah.

[Die hard honda]

unless he moved the battery off of the sub-frame, hes running the kicker.

[400grl]

I can't get anything when i try to click on the live coverage.........is anyone else getting anything? Aren't the Pro motos starting right now?

Originally posted by lemondropracing
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT SUZUKI HAS DONE FOR OUR SPORT??????? bring a tractor trailer to the races that regular folk are not aloud in? first factory to sponsor pro riders and then they won't talk to people anymore? THE WHOLE SUZUKI TEAM GIVES OFF BAD VIBES AS IF THEY ARE ABOVE EVERONE! WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS SELLING QUADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats why they are in it not to "HELP OUR SPORT" its all about the money and if you think different your not to bright!!! THEY BETTER FIGURE OUT HOW TO TREAT PEOPLE IF THEY WANT TO SELL THEM THINGS TO NATIONAL REGULARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really hope you are kidding..:rolleyes:

[arcticty]

Anyone hear how the Pro qualifiers went?

[howmuchnow]

the pro moto starts in 45mins.

[STEVENJANNA]

Originally posted by 400grl
I can't get anything when i try to click on the live coverage.........is anyone else getting anything? Aren't the Pro motos starting right now?
The page says it won't start until the broadcast at the track starts

[mxdave28]

WOW, nothing like reading 5 pages worth of crap! this is suppose to be the "race coverage" thread. the Admin already said that they might have 1 person there and they are only doing 1 class. the rest of this crap should be in the other thread which i believe is marked DISCUSSION!

crap crap crap crap:rolleyes:

[#404's Dad]

Is the race televised at all???

[STEVENJANNA]

I've got @ 2:15pm here on the east coast so it should be 11:15am on the west right? Which means the broadcast should start in about 15 mins. according to mototees.

[yoshz400rider]

Yes guys please quit yellin about the coverage. I am the one who volunteered to help out. I will be doing live race coverage when the moto starts as long as I can hear Harlen over the wind.
The first moto is suppose to start around 3pm Eastern Time which is 12pm Pacific Time.

[bardeenm1]

First off I ride red but let me tell you last year at a National event Suzuki and the riders were more than friendly when crowds weren't all over I went on the trailer got me a banner and had gust and jones sign it. Yes the other riders were very friendly also! But what I stress to you all this is the first race of the year and has to be the most stressing with just getting the new bikes and how much they are in the public eye. REMEMBER being a little distant could be the racers and the team focusing THIS IS THEIR JOB! Keep up the good work for the sport Suzuki and all the other sponsors and keep raising the bar!

[400grl]

Originally posted by yoshz400rider
Yes guys please quit yellin about the coverage. I am the one who volunteered to help out. I will be doing live race coverage when the moto starts as long as I can hear Harlen over the wind.
The first moto is suppose to start around 3pm Eastern Time which is 12pm Pacific Time.

Oh...sorry.....I had a blond moment. I forget we gain an hour going to CA........ehehehheh

[jperkins]

The PRO's are starting to line up.

[slosh13]

This thread has gotten out of control. It is supposed to be about the Glen Helen race coverage, not about GROWN ADULTS arguing like 10 year olds about a topic that everyone will have an opinion about. There is no sense in adding more fuel to this fire. Just my $.02

[400grl]

OK....let's move over to the "discussion" thread....leave this for the coverage stuff! :)

[TWISTED]

Has anybody got the webcast to work yet????

[zakk54]

WE Have Audio On Moto Tees!!!!!!!!

This is awesome!! I'm overseas right now and get to listen to this live!!!!

Thank you God for the internet!!!!

GO DUNK!!!!!!!!!!

MOTO TEES RULES!!!!!

[work2play]

live webcast is now working .... but only playing music

[400grl]

OK!!! Woohooo!!! Parties over here now!! LOL!!! :blah: :D

[duncan440ex]

i did for 20 seconds

[howmuchnow]

its up music only right now

[RATHRACING450R]

where do you go to watch the webcast?

[Cron]

All i have is Marron 5 singing.

[TWISTED]

Thanks... I just got it working.

[STEVENJANNA]

It would figure I can't get the link to work:mad:

[howmuchnow]

moto tees keeps this up ill buy more race shirts

[400grl]

That mototees link still won't work for me- and I have Realplayer!

[timx2]

Thank goodness for Moto Tees !!!!!!!! My Helmet is off to you!!!!!!!!

[TWISTED]

Originally posted by timx2
Thank goodness for Moto Tees !!!!!!!! My Helmet is off to you!!!!!!!!

AMEN!!!

[ky300ex]

Pro moto started yet? I can't get the mototee's link to work either:grr:

[howmuchnow]

i want banger back:macho

[duncan440ex]

Originally posted by timx2
Thank goodness for Moto Tees !!!!!!!! My Helmet is off to you!!!!!!!!

same here

[zakk54]

Absolutely awesome!!!!

[badvox]

Originally posted by ky300ex
Pro moto started yet? I can't get the mototee's link to work either:grr:

Its working for me. Maybe you all should make sure your real player is up to date

[timx2]

The only thing better would be a live video feed like they had at The Six Hours race.....but I a'int complaniing!!!

[badvox]

Okay I did some looking. Looks like you need the most up to date real player. Here is the direct real player link

A friend thought you'd like this streaming media. Play it now with your RealPlayer:
http://switchboard.real.com/player/email.html?PV=6.0.12&&title=mototeeslive&link=rtsp%3A%2F%2Freal.prohosting.com%2Fbroadcast% 2Fmototeeslive.rm

[ky300ex]

Thanks bro. i'll give it shot

[Zracer15]

YESSSSSS, I just got it to work. HAHAHAHA, NICE.

I barly made it. HAHA. This is awesome. :D

[JHF219]

this is awesome !! Love it !! almost like being there:D

[howmuchnow]

DROP THE GATE:devil:

[yfz450rider29]

has the race started, whats going on?

[STEVENJANNA]

WTF I CAN'T GET ON

[Fred55]

I cant get it to work!

[305400ex]

me neither dont work for me either.

[Zracer15]

do you guys have RealPlayer ?

[howmuchnow]

lets go spader

[badvox]

for those that still dont have it

They are lining up now. The track is being watered down and gettinig ready to go.

[DeCesare Racing]

i just downloaded realplayer and still can't get it to work

[howmuchnow]

download real player and your in

[ky300ex]

Thanks badvox! That worked:)

[305400ex]

yep I just downloaded realplayer 10

[hsr]

well for those of us that can't get it to work, fill us in here!

[Zracer15]

Then go to http://www.gearracewear.com/atvmxnat/index.htm and clik the lnk in the middle of the page.

[JHF219]

mines working fine

[ky300ex]

not started yet,watering down the track and getting set to go.

[timx2]

Pro Moto is on the line ...just a few more minutes..

[jc250r31]

Well hell since i am on a company server right now i cant download realplayer........so since we have numerous people connect i would truly be happy if ya'll would type up some play by play for us unfortunate folk LOL

Thanks

[timx2]

The pros are taking a site lap now

[drgnerth]

Mines working fine.

[Zracer15]

They are currently taking there hot lap.

[catch22blaster]

are they lining back up to race ??

[duncan440ex]

no

[305400ex]

w00h00 got it to work, just copy+paste the link onto realplayer. file-open-rtsp://real.prohosting.com/broadcast/mototeeslive.rm

[extremeblastr]

they're just finishing up the line up now

[yoshz400rider]

Update from Harlen pros are taking the hot lap will be about 15 minutes until race time.

Guys thats fine about the other site but please dont fill this whole thread up how great it is. I will have live updates from Harlen remember he has been doing this and trying hard for a long time.

[badvox]

708 - Goodman
199 - Pat Brown
191 - Dustin Wimmer
94 - Dustin Nelson
75 - Haavisto
- Kory Ellis
52 - Dana Creech
44 - Chad Wienen
- Matt White
30 - Travis Spader
19 - Dunk
16 - Jeremy Lawson
12 - Keith Little
08 - Lubergh
06 - Tavis Cain

Top 5
Tim Farr
Joe Byrd
J Jones
Doug Gust
John Natalie

[ky300ex]

Let's get this thing started! Go Natalie!

[Cron]

3 Suzuki
8 Yamahas
9 Hondas in the Pro Main

[badvox]

You must have the most up to date Real Player everyone!!

[400grl]

***Jumps up and down squealing!!**** I GOT IT TO WORK!!!!

[yoshz400rider]

national anthem playing

natalie and jones on the inside next to each other.

[yoshz400rider]

30 seconds

[howmuchnow]

the gate drops and NATALIE gets the holeshot

[yoshz400rider]

Natalie out front Followed by Jones Little and Farr

Coming up the big hill Natalie Little Jones is down.

[ky300ex]

John natalie with the holeshot!

[305400ex]

holeshot---

natalie
little
jones

[yoshz400rider]

Jones Spader Wimmer Nelson all down they all take off way back

[catch22blaster]

whoa
wheres Farr and Gust

[yoshz400rider]

Natalie,Little,Byrd,Gust,Lawson,Brown,

[yoshz400rider]

Gust 4th Farr 3rd last update.

[badvox]

Natalie opening up a lead!!

[ky300ex]

Farr off the track?

[Rico]

Thanks for the info on the live feed, that's friggon awesome.


I hope they have it for GNCC racing also. Getting phone calls and trying to update websites is great and all, been there and done that many times, but the live feed is top notch and nothing beats it besides live video....:macho

[catch22blaster]

what he wreck tell me ??/

[JHF219]

my feed just cut off anyone elses ?

[RATHRACING450R]

farr just dropped out,t hey're syaing possibly mechanical problems

[TWISTED]

What happened to the webcast???????

[ky300ex]

No wreck,said maybe the quad died

[305400ex]

mine live cast just died, what bout you guys?

[yoshz400rider]

Not that I know of I am getting calls from Harlen Farr was in third is what I made out.

Jeremiah Jones,Travis Spader,Dustin Nelson,Dustin Wimmer were involved in a pile up.

[Cron]

My live feed went out!!!

[2000ex]

Server is probably overloaded, lost my feed

[Rico]

Originally posted by 400grl
***Jumps up and down squealing!!****

I wish I could see that...:eek2:

[ShiftRacr400]

mine cut out too. it wont work!!!!

[RATHRACING450R]

mine jsut qut quit too and real player is giving me a outdated or inaccurate link screen

[ky300ex]

I lost the live cast too!:mad:

[jayman7]

my brawdcast died too

[badvox]

The cast died? its gone and cant get it back

[#404's Dad]

My coverage dropped too wtf???

[catch22blaster]

so farrs done dain

how many for to go

[1_5_1]

where is matt white?????

[1_5_1]

where is matt white?????

[STEVENJANNA]

Where are the updates? Keep them coming.

[TheJeSter1340]

yep feed dropped

[2000ex]

From the live feed, it seems like Natalie was checkin out again early...any trackside updates

[yoshz400rider]

Still waiting for a call back from Harlen we will get u updated soon sit tight.

[catch22blaster]

keep updates coming
gosh natalie gees:rolleyes:

[badvox]

probably crashed the server!! Too many poeple they probably werent expecting so many users online

[moose7201]

realplayer is a piece of **** 2 laps in it tells me i need to update with dial up that take 23min yeah good deal .what the hell

[STEVENJANNA]

Originally posted by yoshz400rider
Still waiting for a call back from Harlen we will get u updated soon sit tight.
That's my problem I'm sitting to tight

[yoshz400rider]

John Natalie ten second lead on Keith little then Joe Byrd Doug Gust and Jeremy Lawson.

Pat Brown and Tim Farr are out with motor problems

[ky300ex]

It seems the live cast is down for good.I tried to reload it and nothing.

[catch22blaster]

where is jones at in the pack
how many laps left

[yoshz400rider]

Guys please quit posting every little thing the site keeps crashing because of overload and making it impossible to get good updates.

Jeremy Lawson is looking great and closing on Gust.

[gibby]

Thats how it ended

[badvox]

John Natalie wins it

followed by 2 other hondas

[#404's Dad]

You guys should set the permissions on this thread so that nobody can post but you untill the race is over if you dont want posting going on.

Just my $.02 :)

[yoshz400rider]

Natalie won
Keith little
Joe Byrd
Doug Gust
Jeremy Lawson
Jason Luburgh
Dana Creech

Jones finished around tenth

[catch22blaster]

dude that would be gay man :huh

[catch22blaster]

Ok so how did the overall go ????

[yoshz400rider]

Going to get final results in a few minutes those results should be right but they will be double checked.