You ever been totally screwed over buying a used Quad?

[fitethesystom]

I'm sure there's some of ya out there who have bought a used quad which turned out to be a total junker, if you did what all did ya have go wrong?

Mike,

[fitethesystom]

?????????????

[muddy400EX]

i have kinda. the one i have now i bought knowing it has no rear brakes and bald tires. but then i got it home opened it up for the first time and found out it had a blown head gasket:mad:

[fitethesystom]

No way. That bites. I also got screwed think I did this little turd sold me my bike it feels like such a beater (only in my head) but it's actually really tight and strong, it was burning oil like a mofo but that's almost fixed...

[G Impala 63n70]

Traded a rare big block 64 buick skylark gran sport for a lt230 and banshee when i was dumb, banshee blew up that day and crank went out on lt230 knocking whole engine out a month later, then thought i got a deal on a lt250r took it out a hour later crank went out and knocked out tranny and topend, bought a cannondale it caught on fire and burnt to the ground..any other stories?

[muddy400EX]

Originally posted by G Impala 63n70
Traded a rare big block 64 buick skylark gran sport for a lt230 and banshee when i was dumb, banshee blew up that day and crank went out on lt230 knocking whole engine out a month later, then thought i got a deal on a lt250r took it out a hour later crank went out and knocked out tranny and topend, bought a cannondale it caught on fire and burnt to the ground..any other stories?

that would suck, i woulda been pissed:grr:


mine went from being a bone stock piece of crap with bald tires, no rear brakes, and a blown head gasket to being a decent trail quad:)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/dirtbiker/400exxxx.jpg

[Mxjunkie]

yup, bent frame, blown up motor, every bearing as gone.. I was rather pissed..

[BlasterEaten250]

On my brothers, the guy had the engine good enough for it to run, but it needed a complete rebuild:mad: He said it "runs great" but when we where adjusting the valves, we found out the whole motor was trash. Long story short, more than 2000 dollars in repairs.:ermm:

[rippin2]

i bought my 416 and brackets are broken bolts are missing...i mighty pissed but im making it a good quad peaice by piece

[400exrules]

my 400ex's powerband was broken when i bought it:mad: .....found one on ebay for $150 though:muscle:

yea i got my 00 400ex from this kid for 3000 and i knew it needed new plastic and a rim, but after about a week of riding i found the fallowing: needed almost every new berring, needed alot of carb work, needed new headlights, needed new electrical systom, needed alot of gaskets, new sprockets, and worst of all a compleat engine rebuild. so $2,500 later its running strong and lookin good. but i was pissed.

[QuadManThrice]

Originally posted by 400exrules
my 400ex's powerband was broken when i bought it:mad: .....found one on ebay for $150 though:muscle:

what color did you get?
mine is red.

[fitethesystom]

Originally posted by Wanksta
yea i got my 00 400ex from this kid for 3000 and i knew it needed new plastic and a rim, but after about a week of riding i found the fallowing: needed almost every new berring, needed alot of carb work, needed new headlights, needed new electrical systom, needed alot of gaskets, new sprockets, and worst of all a compleat engine rebuild. so $2,500 later its running strong and lookin good. but i was pissed.

:eek2: $2500 to repair? :huh I'd of drove right back to his house and re-arranged his face. *Quivers at the thought of spending that much on repairs for his*:ermm:

[Hondadudeehhhh]

i bought a blaster and it blew up 2 weeks after i bought it. The guy i bought it from was real shady and i couldnt get ahold of him after i bought it.

Originally posted by fitethesystom
:eek2: $2500 to repair? :huh I'd of drove right back to his house and re-arranged his face. *Quivers at the thought of spending that much on repairs for his*:ermm:

yea i got him to pay half for alot of the stuff, but i was still pissed.

[fast_enough]

haha mike don't even get me started, you know all about me and my probs

[skatrdude20]

Well I drove 4 hours to PA to buy my old 300ex. I didnt know what I was looking for then. Got her home and boy was there some problems. Rim was slightly bent. Axle had a touch bend in it, when I didn wheelies it threw my around. Needed axle bearings and A-arm bearings. He had takin the Works shocks off the bike and put the stock COMPLETELY blown shocks back on. Needed oil like a human needs water. The rear tires were ****. and the gas tank and a small rust through hole in the bottom left corner. I managed to turn that bike into a trail ripper. Ill never EVER buy a bike without inspecting it from front to back ever again.

[miller821]

I bought mine brand new and the first time we took the plug out it was so hard to get out. So we look at the threads and find out its cross-threaded. O well not to bad only 20 dolla worth of damage.

[fitethesystom]

I cannot imagine. Just reading these make's me pissed off a little. Nothin' like getn' ripped off, eh? I try to buy new when I can. But sometimes buying new can be a nightmare too. I've always had YAMAHA's and maybe it's just luck but they were all flawless and I couldn't hold onto them without someone asking me if I want to sell it. My one friend basically forced me to sell my bike to him, it was nuts.

[YZEATER]

if you guys would inspect the quad before you buy it, it would save some problems later. like put it up on a jack and shake all the wheels, swingarm, shocks. check for play everywhere. listen for sounds in the engine.

[FoxRacing81]

I got one better...how about I got screwed over from the quad I traded for and the owner of the quad?

I had my 250r. One of my buddies came over and brought his quad and we went riding. Later, when his dad comes to pick him and his quad up, he starts talking about my 250r, about how much he likes em and about how nice mine is, then he says he has some crazy-bored out number 400ex. At the time, I was quad-clue-less and didn't know anything. He says he would trade it straight up for mine. It sounded good to me, so I did. The guy also tells me if it ever has problems, just bring it back to him and he'll fix it.

One day, I'd riding with my buddy. We we're drag racing, just messing around, when I hear a noise, and boom, motor is locked up. I take it back to the guy I bought it off of (this was about a month or so later). After 4 weeks of it just sitting in his garage, doing nothing, he takes it apart. Turns out, I have 4 bent valves, gear in the bottom end has a broken tooth off of one of the gears, and the timing chain adjuster is shot. After paying for everything needed, he starts to reassemble. Few days later, he calls me up and tells me its done. I'm happy, mad that it took so long, but happy. I drive to his house. As soon as I get there, he tells me that its ticking and making noise because I need a new timing chain, but he says I should be okay for 1 ride or so. This pissed me off even more, but I didn't care, I just wanted to ride.

I take it to my friends house, go riding, boom, 20mins later, locked up again. Ready to knock the guys head off. Take it to a different mechanic, turns out it wasn't even bored out to begin with, the timing chain tensioner was never replaced, and that the timing chain should have never ever been in the bike in the first place.

I tell this to the guy I bought it off of, and all he says is "I told you it'd need a timing chain"......

My dad thought we should just keep it at that and that was all....so nothing ever happened after that really...Other then this motor has failed several times and I have found many other flaws that the guy I got the quad off of has ****ed up. Every bolt was over-tightened and would constantly snap when being removed.

Everything else on the quad was and is good, but this guy should have never touched the motor.

-Justin

[JLanphear]

Yes, but it was not because of mechanical problems.

I bought which was what I believed was a 1998 Banshee. The kid said it was a 1999 but the Plastic color matched a '98. I posted the VIN# on the internet to see if anybody could tell me what year it was by that, and all they could say is that it was not a '99.

Little did I know, it was actually a 2001....STOLEN.

I got the thing registered and insured...no problem. The DMV still claims it's impossible to register a stolen vehicle, but this one must have slipped through the cracks because I've still got all the paperwork for it and the #'s match.

Anyway, was riding it one day where I wasn't supposed to...got pulled over....VIN came back as being stolen...got taken away and never saw it again.

I had to take the person I bought it from to court....He didn't even show up on the court date, but called in and the judge allowed him to state his case over the phone (which I thought was total BS). Judge wouldn't make a decision that day. It was about a month later that I got a letter in the mail from the court saying that the case was dismissed cause the dude was under 18 when I purchased the quad from him and that voids any "contract" I have with him.

So I was out $3000 plus whatever else I put into it.

Moral of the story....always check VIN's BEFORE you buy, and if the person is a minor, make sure you get a parents signature ALSO.

Of course if your state is like VT...You can't call the state police and have them run a vin # for you...and they won't send an officer onsite to check himself to check, so you are forced to bring it to them. Which normally means that you would have to first buy it anyway. So screwed up.

2nd Moral of the story....If you want to make a lot of money, steal a bunch of stuff and have a 16 year old sell it for you. :mad:

[Blue250X]

i bought a '91 250x from some guy who just freaked me out. we asked him, "does it run good?" "does it smoke" "leak oil?" he said everything was good, he gave us new tierods taht he was to lazy to put in himself and it had like 500 into it, i bought it for 900 so i figured it was a good deal. well, i jetted it (he didnt) and i rode it for a while, pretty soon it wouldnt start. we called one of my dads freinds, he tore teh topend off, the piston was bad! everything was, we bore it, put in a wisec, the timing was off, he suspected some sprocket on the crank turned, he tears it down, now we need a new rod, bearings, and other stuff, i never even payed off the quad in the first place! and yes we took it for a ride, it started good and we didnt have enough time on it to see that it was smokin. i am really pissed right now, mostly because i havent ridden in a month or two, ive riddin my freinds dirtbike more than this in the past 2 months:confused:

[YZEATER]

how do you expect a 15 year old quad not to have needed engine work unless it was never rode? parts wear out, even when you do all the maintence all the time. if it gets no maintence parts will wear out quicker. besides, not like you paid 2000 for it.

Originally posted by fitethesystom
I'm sure there's some of ya out there who have bought a used quad which turned out to be a total junker, if you did what all did ya have go wrong?

Mike,

my 400ex. with in 3 years of having it this is what happend

clutch went bad.
needed clutch basket.
valves ajusted
keaps blowing the gaskets.
cam went bad.
axle broke
needed rebuild. 5 hours after rebuild needed a nuther one.
sift fork bent.
rims bent side ways.
sub frame slightly bent.
a-arms bent up.
wheel bearings went bad

now after all that the shop took a look at my engine again to see what else is rong with it they refused to fix it cuz it will cost to much and take to much time.:eek2:

the quad looks good though

[JOEX]

Originally posted by hetdrunk
my 400ex. with in 3 years of having it this is what happend

clutch went bad.
needed clutch basket.
valves ajusted
keaps blowing the gaskets.
cam went bad.
axle broke
needed rebuild. 5 hours after rebuild needed a nuther one.
sift fork bent.
rims bent side ways.
sub frame slightly bent.
a-arms bent up.
wheel bearings went bad

now after all that the shop took a look at my engine again to see what else is rong with it they refused to fix it cuz it will cost to much and take to much time.:eek2:

the quad looks good though
I bet most of that was from your abuse of the quad and lack of maintenance:ermm:

the rims and a-arms and axle were my falt. but the engine i did the normal stuff your susposed to do. i changed the oil and filter every 10 hours. air filter constintly cleaning. jetted. the shop sid it all happend because i dont have the stock muffler on it. every time i got it back from the shop it had more problums. thats y my fram was tweeked cuz they rolled the quad.

[dirtmomma]

bummer stories here thats too bad BUT you have to remember YOU ARE BUYING AS IS NO WARRANTY :)

We've bought a couple used ones, my 300 was one of them, we bought it from someone we race w/ sure it needed bearings & was wore out but it was CHEAPER than new :) Same w/ our $500 blaster but what can you say when you get an awesome deal??!!

[EastCoast330]

I got screwed from a pro racer that told me the Quad was in great shape, it was ready to race was his exact words. I paid $3,000 for it and been having problems ever since. I didnt even get a chance to ride it good before the motor let go and I am still rebuilding it. I took the person for his word so shame on me for trusting him. It wont ever happen again that is for sure.

[Loser450]

I'll be making a post relating to this as soon as I get mine (and the bill) back from Tom Miller Motorsports... :mad:

[Mxjunkie]

Originally posted by fitethesystom
:eek2: $2500 to repair? :huh I'd of drove right back to his house and re-arranged his face. *Quivers at the thought of spending that much on repairs for his*:ermm:

I had to spend 4,500 to get mine where its at today and 75% of that money was fixing chit lol

[Mean250r]

when i got my 250r i thought it was a great deal.....i got it for 4 grand off ebay (when the 250r had its value) it was mostly stock, bought it home...rode it abour 3 or 4 weekends and found out there was sumthin wrong with the motor, fouled spark plugs almost every 15 minits.... to meake a long stary short i ended up rebuilding the entire quad.... it went from this

[Mean250r]

to this :eek:

[Mxjunkie]

I love that 250r bro, almost same color frame as my shee :macho

[fitethesystom]

Originally posted by YZEATER
if you guys would inspect the quad before you buy it, it would save some problems later. like put it up on a jack and shake all the wheels, swingarm, shocks. check for play everywhere. listen for sounds in the engine.

So we should listen for a connecting rod that could break? Wish it were that simple. You can't detect a weak connecting rod. It's a risk you take when you buy preowned. You can't identify them all when your looking at it... Besides.... some seller's dont want you screwin with the bike for some reason. Just my 2 cents...

I guess all we really expect is for them not to lie and beat around the bush if there's somethin wrong with it..tell em..

[YZEATER]

your buying used and taking a risk. i know you can't inspect internal engine parts but if the outside of the quad is beat, just imagine what the inside would look like. if you don;t like the risk then don't buy it, no one is twisting your arm.

[fitethesystom]

When I bought my quad, exterior looked so clean you were sure everything was cool inside. lol

[YZEATER]

accept the risk, quit complaining, or don't buy used. simple as that.

[fitethesystom]

I'll do as I god damn well please. Don't tell me what/how to do things. What are you here for anyway? to show everyone the dick you are? Pathetic.

[YZEATER]

yup, do what you want. buy someone else's junk then come here to complain about it.

[yamablaster24]

the worst was buying a 400ex with bent rim. I have bought and sold over 10 quads and when you inspect each one and listen to the motor and cross your fingers you should be alright. But now i just buy new, im done dealing with other peoples problems

[fitethesystom]

m done dealing with other peoples problems

I says the same thing, dude. But with the cost of a brand new machine.... I really don't have a choice.

[fitethesystom]

Originally posted by YZEATER
yup, do what you want. buy someone else's junk then come here to complain about it.

Yup, I will. And there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
And obviously your arrogance bleeds through because you have no sense of reality. Every minute of every day someone is getting ripped off, it's not a rare occurance you MORON! But I forgot, you make no mistakes in your life.

i will never buy one that has been raced. raced means RAGGED THE **** OUT

[Honda400exrox]

Fitethesystom where in ontario are you from?

[elchankoblanko]

I bought a 87 250R off a guy for 1200, It was a real beater of a quad. Had to have the whloe motor rebuilt, it had no brakes, everything was messed up on this thing. It def wasnt worth the 1200 but i learned a lot of good lessons from it so whats done is done.

[fitethesystom]

Originally posted by Honda400exrox
Fitethesystom where in ontario are you from?

Hamilton

u have to look at things from the other point of view. I almoast sold my 400ex. I thot the engine was fine, strong. low hours on it, kept up with everything. till I just riped it doun and descovered a scared piston and bad conn rod. things happen.

when I bought this quad I over payed for it. it was a 01 400ex for 3100, this was in the spring of this year. but I knew it was babyed. 1- it had tip wheels on it with out a scratch with bald tires. which meens to me they have beed ridin on alot but little/no damage. ( live in rock city)
2- the tool kit was still on the damn thing, I lost it the first day I had it.
3-was bone stock besides tires/wheels/ oil tank.

but found out after getting it that the swing arm bearings had never been replaced, and we all know how fun that bolt is to get out.

so no (other than buying some parts off internet) have I came up short of what I thot I was buying.

[Quad18star]

Does buying a quad that has it's crank snap in 3 places on the first ride out , along with seizing the top end , destroying the rest of the motor count??

Then having the quad sit in a shop for 3 months ... pay $2000 for a new motor .... drive 8 hours home and realize that the shop screwed you out of your LRD cylinder and head cuz it's not back on the motor . You call them up and ask whats going on , and they tell you you never had an LRD setup .... you can't prove you did cause you had no pictures of it either.

If that's all considered being screwed over .... then count me in !!!

By the way ... NEVER EVER deal with Offroad Cycle and ATV in Port Hope Ontario Canada . Julien Denis ( shop owner) can suck my ......:mad:

Originally posted by Quad18star
Julien Denis ( shop owner) can suck my ......:mad: If his names Julien, hes probably already sucked plenty of dick.

[fitethesystom]

What do you mean by LRD?

Quad18star, I would not of been sane if that happened to me, I have a terrible temper and I honest to god would of trashed the bike with to hell as I have done this to many things, but your situation would totally blow me away... I was really really surprised how much the engine rebuild cost at a dealer when I phoned Honda. Your in Ontario, too, eh?

Originally posted by fitethesystom
What do you mean by LRD? LRD is a company.

omfg that sux about the lrd cylinder

[FourFiftyFour]

Well this was pretty bad timing...but when I bought my dale...the first ride I had on it...the top end blew on it....pretty badly. The guy I bought it from is a friend and he had no idea it was gonna go. The quad wasnt smoking or anything...and he even let me test ride it for a day of practice at the track...so it was all just horrible timing......oh well!

[DEAL]

Originally posted by MixMasterMike
i will never buy one that has been raced. raced means RAGGED THE **** OUT


Actually I sold my 400ex that was raced, the kid rides the crap out of it and doesn't maintain it .. and the thing still runs perfect.

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by fitethesystom
What do you mean by LRD?

Quad18star, I would not of been sane if that happened to me, I have a terrible temper and I honest to god would of trashed the bike with to hell as I have done this to many things, but your situation would totally blow me away... I was really really surprised how much the engine rebuild cost at a dealer when I phoned Honda. Your in Ontario, too, eh?

I'm up in Sudbury .

There was no point in beating the bike to death ... it would have just cost me more money than what I had . I used the bike for a few months afterwards , then sold it to a guy in New Market . From what he told me , the engine blew on him .... he fixed it up and traded to a kid in New York for a done up YZ 250 . The engine blew up on the kid ..... he put it for sale on Ebay ..... That's the last place I seen it . Last I heard , the quad was heading to the western part of the USA .

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by MixMasterMike
omfg that sux about the lrd cylinder

You're telling me . I confronted him when I seen him at the races the following summer and he denied any of it . After talking to a few other racers ( both amature and pro) they told me that this isn't the first time he's ever done something like this and that he's screwed over a LOT of people . Apparently his race bike has a lot of other peoples parts on it :mad:

[Honda400exrox]

Originally posted by fitethesystom
Hamilton

I'm from north of London, we should go for a ride some time, i got alot of good riding areas near my house

[fitethesystom]

I wonder why that bike kept blowing up? Was the rod and crank ever replaced? Or is it just one of those lemons?

[redracing88]

well it didnt happen to me but some guy bought my old blaster and he took it home ran it for like a week until the gas drianed out and he called me and asked me how do i mix the oil? i siad you got to mix it 32:1. so he goes to the yamaha dealer and buys benol "good choice" and puts 32oz of oil in 1 gallon of gas!!! the guy calls me up and goes its smoking really bad!! and i was like no ****. but he insised on bringing it back. he gave me 1200 for it and i siad there was no way i was gonna give all that back to him! so i said ill give you 600 bucks back!! the ****in idiot gave me the bike back for 600 bucks!!! i changed the gas ran it around for another month and sold it again for 1200 and made 1800 bucks outa the deal! i had another 400 saved up so i bought myself a decent 400ex! and here is some b/f and after pics!!!



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[Quad18star]

Originally posted by fitethesystom
I wonder why that bike kept blowing up? Was the rod and crank ever replaced? Or is it just one of those lemons?

The engine had been replaced ... everything changed . I think the guy that sold it to me ( a guy from Barrie) knew that there was something wrong with it cuz he was very eager to get rid of it . Being 16( or 17) at the time , I was horny to get a race bike and never really did a full check of the motor . When we tore it apart , we found that the crank had snapped and was cracked in 2 other places . I sent the bike to Julien ( worst mistake of my life) and he just kept putting it off saying that he couldn't find a crank for it .... I didn't know about Ebay back then :ermm: . So after a few months of him not doing anything with my bike , I got pissed and he told me he was gunna take the crank out of a race bike he had sitting in the shop and put it into my engine .

He calls me up and tells me the bike is fixed ...I drive down .... see my bike dirty as hell ( looks like it had been raced) and some rust spots from sitting out in the elements for the last few months . I never noticed that my cylinder and head weren't on the bike until I get home . I used the bike for a few months but had to pay for college so I sold it .

The guy in New market that bought the quad didn't have a clue about maintenance ... he blew it up ... then sent it out to Bondi Engines to be fixed . <--- Mistake #2 for the quad .

I've heard too many horror stories about Bondi and I've seen their butcher jobs they do on engines . The guy that bought it off me was more interested in dirtbikes and seen a sweet deal from the kid in New York . He traded ( would have been a fool not to) .... 3 weeks later he gets a call from the kid saying the motor blew up . The kid then sold the bike to someone out west and that's the last I've heard of it .

Moral of the story ..... don't send anything to Julien Denis at Offroad Cycle and ATV or to Bondi Engines . And if you see this quad for sale .... stay the f**k away from it !!!!

[fitethesystom]

I really want a YFZ, what is your input on those? I've talked to many people and they say there a good all around bike.

[Atkins]

My story....well some of it atleast:

Originally posted by Atkins
Dont let me get started on Adam Parks, he is a joker plain and simple. He screwed me out of thousands of dollars and over a year working minimum wage, when I bought a quad off of him that had an engine put together by a 4 year old.

I really really hate this guy...:mad:

Originally posted by Quad18star
Are you the one that bought his 310 R ??? If so , I heard many horror stories from local racers about that bike . That's the bike Adam broke his back on , when his throotle stayed stuck wide open cuz he had packed the throttle housing full of grease . I ALMOST bought that bike from him . :ermm:

Originally posted by Atkins
Haha, yup, unfortunately that was me. Adam filled all the water jets with silicone apperantly in a last ditch effort to get the thing to stop leaking antifreeze, and it blew up. I swear to god I had that engine apart after every ride(which was like 4 5 minute rides before it would start to leak from every seal) and i could never get all the silicone out of that engine.

You are a wise man for not buying it. Tell me some stories if you dont mind. Adam told me he was the Canadian National Champion on that bike!:eek2:

Originally posted by Quad18star
Man that sucks that you ended up with that bike . I was gunna buy it , but then heard a lot of the horror stories from other racers .

Canadian Champ ?? ROFLMAO . Now that is the funniest thing I've EVER heard .

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by fitethesystom
I really want a YFZ, what is your input on those? I've talked to many people and they say there a good all around bike.

I like it , and I have mine for sale also . :D :ermm:

It's all back to stock now though and I only have a few parts left to be sold .

If you're interested let me know .... it's in MINT condition ... I barely used it and it hasn't been used since August 2004 ( that no typo) . Broken leg in 25 place + months and months left of physio therapy = Me not riding and selling the quad .

It's sitting in my dealers showroom being sold on consignment but I can work out a deal with you if interested . It's gotta go soon !!!!

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by Atkins
My story....well some of it atleast:

Did you ever sell that bike or .... ???

It still makes me laugh thinking he told you he was Canadian National Champ. ROFLMAO

Adam has screwed over many people ..... many stories about parts never shipped out , never paying people that he owes money to , etc etc.

He COULD have had a great business ... but he screwed himself .

[huffdaddy_400EX]

About 2 years ago I was driving to a local track and saw a 2004 z400 for sale in a parking lot, looked damn good to. I stopped and grab the number and gave them a call. I met the owners wife later that day at their farm. She said that is was her husbands quad and he had left her and she need to get rid of it as she couldmake the payments. I looked it over and it looked ok from 5 feet. But as you got closer you could see the rust on the frame and the chain was junk(looked like he never cleaned it). Well, I took it for a spin. It just didn't ride right. No power and it pulled to the right. I brought it back to where she was and when I stopped there was a puddle of oil under it. A closer look revealed oil coming from the cases (ouch!). I pulled the seat and the airbox was covered with oil. GREAT! I told her the quad was toast and needed a lot of work. Thinking a could get a good deal I made on low offer. She said all she wanted was to get enough to pay the loan off. The loan was $5200. :eek2:

I gave her my number and asked her to get back to me if she wanted to sell it for my offer price. She called me a week later and said she took the bike to the dealer since it was still under warrenty and they had fixed it. I asked what did they do. She said they change the air and oil filter, new spark plug, and adjusted the cables. I asked about the oil leak and she said the dealer couldn't find one. :huh

Thanks but no thanks I said.

[spent21]

bad luck follows me.

250x. i was in highschool and wanted a sport bike to ride with all my friends. found the x in the paper for 1600. (it was 5 years old at the time). i looked at it. good plastic, grab bar scraped through and tweaked (wheelies on pavement, thought i), shocks were good, tires were shot, chain was shot, and the sprockets were missing a few teeth. ran good/strong. so i brought it home. changed chain/sprokets, air filter, valves were spot on, and changed the oil. my first spin out of the shop revealed a knock only in second gear.
ok, so second gear is F'd. time to split the cases. i NOW notice someone has WELDED the kickstart to the shaft! i put together the whole scenario....guy left bike in neutral......rolled back, caught second on the way out of the back of the truck, hit the grab bar, caught the tires, and snap! 400 bucks later, i had a bike that would stomp a 300ex, and stand my ground against any warrior. i still have that bike and get it out on occassion just to hear it run.

250r. i looked high and low online to finally find a 250r in florence, AL. you local guys may know Longshore Honda. this is a good 3 hour drive for me, so i call the guy, ask him is it as advertised (+4 lsr, radial front tires, propegs, beadlock rears, etc.) "yes", "i'm coming for it" ---- i get up there and he has robbed the nerfs and the tires and wheels. i'm hella pissed. so he knocks 300 bucks off......with the agreement that he's going to send me a new set of propegs....i get the bike home, 30 minutes, and the engine goes. ok, these things happen, so i bust the top end off....the gaskets haven't even stuck yet. the piston is in pieces, the "port job" looked like a metal loving beaver was turned loose in there. so i call up brian, and tell him that i understand that these things happen, i'm not pissed, but i would like for him to sell me the parts i need at cost since he and his dad OWN the honda shop........"ok" he calls me back with prices for the laundry list of parts that i need..... i can get them cheaper myself!!! So i say F' it. I'll get them myself......where are my nerfbars......"oh, they're on backorder"......a month later "they're on backorder." where did you order them from? after dicking around for 10 min, and asking his "parts guy" where he ordered them......"white brothers" so i get on the phone to white brothers only to find out that they DON'T EVEN CARRY AC PRODUCTS!!!!! i then called and ordered the most expensive set of pro-pegs i could find ($170+shipping), then called brian back to tell him about the white brothers thing, and that i ordered a set....this is what they cost, i want a check. i was actually suprised to get that check

another r story, and i'm done. i needed a crank built, so i decided i'd let our local "bike pro" do it for me since i didn't have the jigs to press them. he let his buddy that builds harley cranks build it since he didn't have the jigs either.....why he took the job in the first place is beyond me.... anyway, i get my crank back and it is beat all to hell. (anyone that's dealt with a 250r knows the crank is hollow and doesn't like to be beat). the damn thing will not even fit in the case!!!! he ended up buying me a new crank.

you can see these two marvelous bikes
here (http://photos.yahoo.com/spent21)

[spent21]

bad luck follows me.

250x. i was in highschool and wanted a sport bike to ride with all my friends. found the x in the paper for 1600. (it was 5 years old at the time). i looked at it. good plastic, grab bar scraped through and tweaked (wheelies on pavement, thought i), shocks were good, tires were shot, chain was shot, and the sprockets were missing a few teeth. ran good/strong. so i brought it home. changed chain/sprokets, air filter, valves were spot on, and changed the oil. my first spin out of the shop revealed a knock only in second gear.
ok, so second gear is F'd. time to split the cases. i NOW notice someone has WELDED the kickstart to the shaft! i put together the whole scenario....guy left bike in truck in neutral......rolled back, caught second on the way out, hit the grab bar, caught the tires, and snap! 400 bucks later, i had a bike that would stomp a 300ex, and stand my ground against any warrior.

250r. i looked high and low online to finally find a 250r in florence, AL. you local guys may know Longshore Honda. this is a good 3 hour drive for me, so i call the guy, ask him is it as advertised (+4 lsr, radial front tires, propegs, beadlock rears, etc.) "yes", "i'm coming for it" ---- i get up there and he has robbed the nerfs and the tires and wheels. i'm hella pissed. so he knocks 300 bucks off......with the agreement that he's going to send me a new set of propegs....i get the bike home, 30 minutes, and the engine goes. ok, these things happen, so i bust the top end off....the gaskets haven't even stuck yet. the piston is in pieces, the "port job" looked like a metal loving beaver was turned loose in there. so i call up brian, and tell him that i understand that these things happen, i'm not pissed, but i would like for him to sell me the parts i need at cost since he and his dad OWN the honda shop........"ok" he calls me back with prices for the laundry list of parts that i need..... i can get them cheaper myself!!! So i say F' it. I'll get them myself......where are my nerfbars......"oh, they're on backorder"......a month later "they're on backorder." where did you order them from? after dicking around for 10 min, and asking his "parts guy" where he ordered them......"white brothers" so i get on the phone to white brothers only to find out that they DON'T EVEN CARRY AC PRODUCTS!!!!! i then called and ordered the most expensive set of pro-pegs i could find ($170+shipping), then called brian back to tell him about the white brothers thing, and that i ordered a set....this is what they cost, i want a check. i was actually suprised to get that check

another r story, and i'm done. i needed a crank built, so i decided i'd let our local "bike pro" do it for me since i didn't have the jigs to press them. he let his buddy that builds harley cranks build it since he didn't have the jigs either.....why he took the job in the first place is beyond me.... anyway, i get my crank back and it is beat all to hell. (anyone that's dealt with a 250r knows the crank is hollow and doesn't like to be beat). the damn thing will not even fit in the case!!!! he ended up buying me a new crank.

you can see these two marvelous bikes
here (http://photos.yahoo.com/spent21)

Now I can see why my dad made me buy a brand new quad lol

[fitethesystom]

How much for the YFZ? I doubt I can afford it but worth a try.

damn, makes buying used bikes sound like a horror film.

I have honistly sold a cupple things that I thot where goign to **** the bed the verry next day.

I bought this 89? cr 80 dirtbike for 400, needed sprockets, chain, looked like it had been draged behind a truck for 10 miles. but I bought it, thing would not rev up. turns out there was an acorn stuck in the reeds. lol. pulled the acorn out and the thing ripped. after about 1 day use the clutch was showing signs of going, I couldnet roll it with the bike off, in gear with the clutch in. And when I started it cold in gear it would take off. lol. But 3 years later and lots of abuse from me. clutch still did the same thing. I changed the tranny fuild once for kicks, it was black and looked more like a buffing compound than oil. So I go to sell it and the kid askes me if he thinks anything is wrong with it, I say to be honist I thot it was goign to blow up and **** the bed 3 years ago. sold it for 400$. I meat up with the kid about 2 weaks ago ( 2 or so years after I sold it to him) turns out he had it for about a year and it still ran mint, just had to hold on tight putting it in gear till the motor warmed up. lol. he sold it for 450$. hondas never die. lol

I bought a blaster for 200, no idear what year or anything. it wouldent idle, so I bring it home, carb top is stripped. I buy a motion pro carb top and apoxy it to the top of the carb. sold it for 400 2 weaks later, I know the kid and it has been about 1 year, says it stilll runs and drive fine. Suprising. lol.

[Atkins]

Originally posted by Quad18star
Did you ever sell that bike or .... ???

It still makes me laugh thinking he told you he was Canadian National Champ. ROFLMAO

Adam has screwed over many people ..... many stories about parts never shipped out , never paying people that he owes money to , etc etc.

He COULD have had a great business ... but he screwed himself .

I sold the axle and front Works, and the rest is worth so little it makes me want to cry. I paid $4500 for a pile of junk worth $1000 or less. Sucks because I got ajob at McDonalds right when I turned 14 so i could save up for a race quad, and Adam basically robbed me of that dream and screwed me of over a year of hard work making minimum wage.

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by Atkins
I sold the axle and front Works, and the rest is worth so little it makes me want to cry. I paid $4500 for a pile of junk worth $1000 or less. Sucks because I got ajob at McDonalds right when I turned 14 so i could save up for a race quad, and Adam basically robbed me of that dream and screwed me of over a year of hard work making minimum wage.

I thought the bike had Gibson and Elka front suspension??? Or did you buy it without the suspension work??

[z-mann]

I bought an 01 scrambler 90 from a so called buddy of mine for a grand last year. I bought the bike because he did not even have kids of his own and had bought it for his nephew to ride around on once in a while. Anyway, I bought the bike with the understanding that the carb needed a new float since it leaked gas out the bottom vent and he did not ever get it titled. He even gave me the new float. Anyway, the battery was also out and he said it needed to be charged. The battery would not hold a charge. I went a bought a new one and replaced the float so the carb woudl not leak any more. When I went to start the motor it would not tunr over. I stood on the kick starter and it still would not turn over. The rings had rusted to the cylinder. I put a brand new .30 over top end in it and got it started. It ran ok for a few minutes but did not sounds right. LOng story short, I guess the carb leaking had flooded the case with gas. The crank bearings rusted as well as the piston rings. When I got it started it got evem more rust around and ruined the brand new piston I had just put in. After paying 1000 for the bike I ended up dumping annother 1100 in a new crank, battery, top end, rod, carb rebuild, air filter, etc.. I spent 2200 just to ride a 5 yr old 90 when I could have bought one new for that price. I also do not have a title for it. My so called "buddy" pulled the as is used sale thing and did not help me with a thing. We are no longer friends.

[spent21]

z-mann, i'm by no means trying to tell you what to do, but it sounds like you may have over-reacted. if it is as you say, and the carb leaked and caused the damage, then yeah, you got a bum deal, but mechanical things break. if the bike sat long enough without being cranked or ridden to rust the piston up, then how was he to know? i would have done the same thing.

however, i'm just curious, what did the oil look like? was it milky? if that's the case the bike had been under water at sometime. i have NEVER seen rust unless it was open to the elements, or had been under water, in which case, he should have told you.

[fitethesystom]

ALWAYS make buddy run it before you buy!!

[hondardr4life]

I just bought a 250r, everythings good so far, knock on wood. I am praying that nothing goes wrong with it.....

[knight rider]

i bought a 00 400ex for 4000$cdn and it blew up 3 weeks later but after about 1900$ i have a sick 440ex it was my buddies first 4 stroke motor job id say he did some good work

[z-mann]

Originally posted by spent21
z-mann, i'm by no means trying to tell you what to do, but it sounds like you may have over-reacted. if it is as you say, and the carb leaked and caused the damage, then yeah, you got a bum deal, but mechanical things break. if the bike sat long enough without being cranked or ridden to rust the piston up, then how was he to know? i would have done the same thing.

however, i'm just curious, what did the oil look like? was it milky? if that's the case the bike had been under water at sometime. i have NEVER seen rust unless it was open to the elements, or had been under water, in which case, he should have told you.

It is a 2 stroke. Not much oil to change. I called my "buddy" the next day when I got it home and told him it was locked up. He did offer to buy it back, but, my son had already seen it. I just wanted some help in the cost of fixing it. I did aproach him again after I spent about 200 bucks on the new top end. I also called him once I took it the dealer to have it looked at. This was a riding buddy of mine. I had also bought 4 complete sets of tires from him and sold 2 more to some friends at work. He sells tires on the side for extra cash. I had spent abotu 2 grand before I even bought the atv from him and not including the 900 or so my friends spent at his place too. Way I see it, that bike locked up was worth maybe half what I paid for it considering I have not ever gotten the title. I would have paid 500 for it. Oh well, I have no use for friends like that and my son loves the bike now that it has been fixed for a while. :D

[DieselBoy]

bump

knight rider - where do you live in ontario?

[derekhonda]

The KX 125 i have in my info I bought off of a member here. He told me it was a 2002 and it didnt run because it sat all winter and just needed the carb cleaned out and a new plug and such. So i ended up with it, cleaned the carb up good, new oil, plug, airfilter....still wouldnt start. Took it to a mechanic, told him i didnt want to mess with it, he did a compression check, like 30 psi...I didn't even know that was possible. Anyways, he ordered pistons and such....ended up not even being a 2002...was a 1999 instead. So then he got to order new parts, and finally got it running.

Learned a lesson, dont make deals with 15 year olds who have hot moms....(and she was smokin)

[cabex]

O man i have been totally, half was my fault i suppose though. I was buying a sportsman 500 and i told the dealer that the only way i would buy it is if they filled the tank and changed all the fluids, so i picked it up took it home and drove it around for a day or two. After that i decided i better check the oil. i checked it and nothing was hitting the dip stick, so i drained it all out and there was maybe 2 cups in there. so i changed it knowing the engine was probably gona blow up soon anyways drove it for a while and sure enough it blow up. went back the the dealer and B***ed his *** up.

[DieselBoy]

Originally posted by derekhonda
The KX 125 i have in my info I bought off of a member here. He told me it was a 2002 and it didnt run because it sat all winter and just needed the carb cleaned out and a new plug and such. So i ended up with it, cleaned the carb up good, new oil, plug, airfilter....still wouldnt start. Took it to a mechanic, told him i didnt want to mess with it, he did a compression check, like 30 psi...I didn't even know that was possible. Anyways, he ordered pistons and such....ended up not even being a 2002...was a 1999 instead. So then he got to order new parts, and finally got it running.

Learned a lesson, dont make deals with 15 year olds who have hot moms....(and she was smokin)

Yep, can't trust most young people selling things, they will do WHATEVER it takes to get their money. It doesn't make them feel bad selling someone with serious engine problems and lie like the wind to get your money, they're so immature that they probably laugh after you've left.

[DieselBoy]

Originally posted by cabex
O man i have been totally, half was my fault i suppose though. I was buying a sportsman 500 and i told the dealer that the only way i would buy it is if they filled the tank and changed all the fluids, so i picked it up took it home and drove it around for a day or two. After that i decided i better check the oil. i checked it and nothing was hitting the dip stick, so i drained it all out and there was maybe 2 cups in there. so i changed it knowing the engine was probably gona blow up soon anyways drove it for a while and sure enough it blow up. went back the the dealer and B***ed his *** up.

you should of made the dealer do the engine work, if they're a reputable dealer, they would (should). Pretty sad, that even the dealer doesn't give a f___ either. They hire alot little turds for cheap money who really don't care about it. Most reputable dealer's up my way are willing to keep the customer happy, after all, the customer is ALWAYS right. :)