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gilbert z rider
12-11-2005, 07:06 PM
i just want to beat a craptor ?

dtzalba450r
12-11-2005, 09:01 PM
where do you want to beat them at? If your talkin' straight drag, you'll need a big bore, cams, ignition and re-gearing to get you close!
don't listen to the people who say they beat raptors all day on a stock z, that ain't gonna happen unless the raptor is parked!

IrideMHSC
12-12-2005, 11:05 AM
with a pipe and filter and jetting.. you can beat on ein the first three gears but after that its all over....

kfxrider35
12-12-2005, 02:57 PM
all i have on my 04 kfx is a full system hmf, twinair filter, and i kept up when we were both in 5th but when he clicked 6th he was gone i got beat by a bike length

ADMIRAL
12-13-2005, 07:46 PM
Kfxrider35..The raptor dosent have a 6th gear.. He was probably in 4th and then clicked into 5th.. I have a stock z400 and I can beat raptors all day long in acceleration, usually up until I just click into 5th but then the extra 260cc's kick in and those raptors are gone...

slamdak8782
12-13-2005, 09:18 PM
some of the raptors have six speeds

12-14-2005, 06:09 AM
want to beat a craptor buy a 440 stroker kit and he'll be history

xx3003xrdrxx
12-14-2005, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by slamdak8782
some of the raptors have six speeds

NO , they dont ;)

rrguy
12-14-2005, 06:46 AM
Are you counting reverse?

04EXdude
12-17-2005, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by ADMIRAL
I have a stock z400 and I can beat raptors all day long in acceleration

Yeah, whatever.........:rolleyes:

HondaRider250
12-17-2005, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by ADMIRAL
I have a stock z400 and I can beat raptors all day long in acceleration
hes right^, btw kfxrider35 the only raptor wit a sixth gear is the 350

slamdak8782
12-17-2005, 12:35 PM
no your wrong before they updated the trans in 2001 it had six forward gears

12-18-2005, 04:43 PM
BS ive ridden 3 2001s and they all seemed to have 5 gears to me..

Robin Hood
12-18-2005, 05:49 PM
I don't think they made raptors before 2001...

And my 01 doesn't have 6 gears... Did my 6th gear fall off? :confused:

Quad Boy 660r
01-20-2006, 11:00 PM
You will need a full exhuast, jet kit, trash the lid, regear, Hot Cam, and probably hi-comp piston/big bore. Also, remember that a Raptor will respond better to upgrades so if you see a Rap with similar upgrades to you, stay away!

ltz400rider118
01-27-2006, 08:21 PM
race him in the tight woods..you need no mods to beat a craptur there.

CHEVYZ
01-27-2006, 08:25 PM
You can beat him depending on what you want to do and how long the "race" will last. I have beaten Raptors on a 400ex with few mods, no joke. It is the top-end where I am killed, so if I want to win or make it fair ( To me LOL) race a shorter race or at a place where you are at the advantage.

01-27-2006, 08:32 PM
such as tight trails, or a track. ill beat anything in tight trails

CHEVYZ
01-28-2006, 08:27 AM
Even a drag is very possible depending on conditions. I have done it already.:cool:

Dragon_Slayer
02-08-2006, 05:50 PM
My quad is pretty well built and I can beat a raptor even if it isn't stock They do have a higher top gear but you can and will be faster in the long run!!! As far as what you need to beat one well, start with a well adjusted clutch 'cause you need the holeshot, after that big mods, and I know everyone looks to hotcams but take a look at what webcam has to offer. Alba also makes great parts for the Z and there parts department has really helped me. I'd run a 440 kit, 13.5:1 comp. piston good race rod, have the crank balanced and go with a good rev box, port and polish the head, web cams and valve springs. Run 18" tires in the rear then go with a bigger front sprocket say a tooth which is about four on the rear. That should be close but jetting will be a pain and it's expensive!! If you compare apples to apples then who c.......... on second thought who compares apples to apples:devil: !!!!!!!!

black z400
02-12-2006, 10:52 PM
Alright... first off. I have heard many dissapointed with a wiseco 440. I have heard nothing but good about a 434 athena, and its straight bolt on, no boring.

Get a good pipe, i recommend pulse charger. K and N of course. Cams. remove the lid, rejet.

This should outrun a craptor. Maybe a pipe/filter not sure but...

take a look at advantagecycle for parts, z400central seems to be most helpful info wise.