Engineers ruin Christmas (HALARIOUS!!)

[Tommy 17]

Bein an engineer i found this halarious... hopefully u all get most of it and can laugh!




There are approximately two billion children (persons under 18) in the
world. However, since Santa does not usually visit children of Muslim,
Hindu, Jewish or Buddhist religions, this reduces the workload for
Christmas night to 15% of the total, or 378 million (according to the
population reference bureau). At an average (census) rate of 3.5
children per household, that comes to 108 million homes presuming there
is at least one good child in each.

Santa has about 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the
different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming east to
west (which seems logical). This works out to 967.7 visits per second.
This is to say that for each Christian household with a good child,
Santa has around 1/1000th of a second to park the sleigh, hop out, jump
down the chimney, fill the stocking, distribute the remaining presents
under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left for him, get back up
the chimney, jump into the sleigh and get onto the next house.

Assuming that each of these 108 million stops is evenly distributed
around the earth (which, of course, we know to be false, but will accept
for the purposes of our calculations), we are now talking about 0.78
miles per household -a total trip of 75.5 million miles, not counting
bathroom stops or breaks. This means Santa's sleigh is moving at 650
miles per second--3,000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of
comparison, the fastest man made vehicle, the Ulysses space probe, and
moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second, and a conventional reindeer can
run (at best) 15 miles per hour.

The payload of the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming
that each child gets nothing more than a medium sized LEGO set (two
pounds), the sleigh is carrying over 500 thousand tons, not counting
Santa himself. On land, a conventional reindeer can pull no more than
300 pounds. Even granting that the "flying" reindeer can pull 10 times
the normal amount, the job can't be done with eight or even nine of
them---Santa would need 360,000 of them. This increases the payload, not
counting the weight of the sleigh, another 54,000 tons, or roughly seven
times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth (the ship, not the monarch).
600,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air
resistance - this would heat up the reindeer in the same fashion as a
spacecraft reentering the earth's atmosphere.

The lead pair of reindeer would adsorb 14.3 quintillion joules of energy
per second each. In short, they would burst into flames almost
instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them and creating
deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team would be
vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second, or right about the time
Santa reached the fifth house on his trip. Not that it matters, however,
since Santa, as a result of accelerating from a dead stop to 650 m.p.s.
in .001 seconds, would be subjected to acceleration forces of 17,000
g's. A 250 pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to
the back of the sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force, instantly crushing
his bones and organs and reducing him to a quivering blob of pink goo.

Therefore, if Santa did exist, he's dead now.

[JDiablo]

read that to a lil kid and he will still be so it santa still coming,lol

[theTman]

LOL thats the best thing ever

[400exrider707]

Thats too funny. I cant believe someone actually sat down and calculated all that out!

[derekhonda]

That is funny, they should have added something in extra that would have put it over the top. When they talk about how much the sleigh would weigh with all the presents and reindeer and stuff, like 7 times that of the queen elizabeth, they should have stated how if that landed on your house it would demolish it and kill everyone inside. hahaha

[Tommy 17]

Originally posted by derekhonda
That is funny, they should have added something in extra that would have put it over the top. When they talk about how much the sleigh would weigh with all the presents and reindeer and stuff, like 7 times that of the queen elizabeth, they should have stated how if that landed on your house it would demolish it and kill everyone inside. hahaha


haha i'll sit down tonight with a few engineers and see what we can come up with!

[wilkin250r]

Maybe that's the trick. Maybe, by magic, those reindeer absorb that 14.3 quintillion joules of energy each second. I wonder if that's enough to accelerate 600,000 tons to 650 miles per second in 0.001 seconds?

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
Maybe that's the trick. Maybe, by magic, those reindeer absorb that 14.3 quintillion joules of energy each second. I wonder if that's enough to accelerate 600,000 tons to 650 miles per second in 0.001 seconds?

Wilkin ... you're the genius on here ... you do the math and let us know if it's possible . :p

[SGA]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
Maybe that's the trick. Maybe, by magic, those reindeer absorb that 14.3 quintillion joules of energy each second. I wonder if that's enough to accelerate 600,000 tons to 650 miles per second in 0.001 seconds?

Wilkin IS the smartest here. He's already figured it out.

Santas not about calculations, science and facts.
Santa's about magic and happiness in children hearts.

[quadmaster88]

Well i guess santa got his cheat codes from www.cheatcc.com


yeah he's pretty good....

is that what your trying to say?haha

[wilkin250r]

Sadly, I calculate that the reindeer expend 333 quintillion joules of energy just in acceleration, a far cry from 14.8 quintillion they are absorbing every second.

Tommy, can you double-check my work? :devil:

[BLACKeR]

no no say its not true!!:( santas real he really is! i wont believe you mean people...

[hardkoratvmxr]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
Sadly, I calculate that the reindeer expend 333 quintillion joules of energy just in acceleration, a far cry from 14.8 quintillion they are absorbing every second.

Tommy, can you double-check my work? :devil:

wilkin why do you make the rest of us look stupid
? lol

my parents told me that santa could stop time n thats how he made it all over the world in one night

[Eddiesanders250]

Hahaha funniest thing ever.

[wilkin250r]

I'm STILL waiting for Tammy to double-check my work...

[Tommy 17]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
I'm STILL waiting for Tammy to double-check my work...


its finals week... give me some time haha... i haven't got a chance to sit down and do it yet!

[parkers30]

hahaha, I'll try and take some time and check it later tonight, I don't have my calculator with me :rolleyes:

[Tommy 17]

ok heres what i've found... i did this fast but heres some of it... i'll type it out so show everyone how i did it...

santa is traveling at 650 mi/s which is converted to 3,436,550 ft/s or 1,047,460 m/s...

to get his acceleration we use veloctiy = accleration (time)... time is .001 and velocity is 1,047,460 m/s so he would have to accelerate at 1047460440 m/s squared...

if his sleigh was to weight 600,000 tons which is 544,320,000kg

then using the simple equation of Force = Mass (accel) we get that the force acting on santa is 5.70153 x 10^17 kg/(m/s squared) or Newtons...

so the distance that santa travels is Distance = 1/2 (acceleration)(time)^2 so he travels 523.73 meters in .001 seconds...

so then we can use Work = Force(distance) so he does 2.98 x 10^20 joules of work or 298 x 10^18...

so i got 298 quintillian joules of work to accelerate to 650mi/sec with a 600,00 ton sleigh in .001 seconds...


it could be rounding error on my part... i didn't go very exact bc i was in a hurry!

[honduh440]

little do you guys know that santa freezes time with his "magic" then has the elfs go ape shiet on dropping everything off


stupid!

[TheFontMaster]

Originally posted by Tommy 17
ok heres what i've found... i did this fast but heres some of it... i'll type it out so show everyone how i did it...

santa is traveling at 650 mi/s which is converted to 3,436,550 ft/s or 1,047,460 m/s...

to get his acceleration we use veloctiy = accleration (time)... time is .001 and velocity is 1,047,460 m/s so he would have to accelerate at 1047460440 m/s squared...

if his sleigh was to weight 600,000 tons which is 544,320,000kg

then using the simple equation of Force = Mass (accel) we get that the force acting on santa is 5.70153 x 10^17 kg/(m/s squared) or Newtons...

so the distance that santa travels is Distance = 1/2 (acceleration)(time)^2 so he travels 523.73 meters in .001 seconds...

so then we can use Work = Force(distance) so he does 2.98 x 10^20 joules of work or 298 x 10^18...

so i got 298 quintillian joules of work to accelerate to 650mi/sec with a 600,00 ton sleigh in .001 seconds...


it could be rounding error on my part... i didn't go very exact bc i was in a hurry!


I think that just fryed my head.

I'm waiting for santa to see this thread and hear what he has to say.:blah:

[wilkin250r]

Originally posted by Tommy 17
ok heres what i've found... i did this fast but heres some of it... i'll type it out so show everyone how i did it...

santa is traveling at 650 mi/s which is converted to 3,436,550 ft/s or 1,047,460 m/s...

to get his acceleration we use veloctiy = accleration (time)... time is .001 and velocity is 1,047,460 m/s so he would have to accelerate at 1047460440 m/s squared...

if his sleigh was to weight 600,000 tons which is 544,320,000kg

then using the simple equation of Force = Mass (accel) we get that the force acting on santa is 5.70153 x 10^17 kg/(m/s squared) or Newtons...

so the distance that santa travels is Distance = 1/2 (acceleration)(time)^2 so he travels 523.73 meters in .001 seconds...

so then we can use Work = Force(distance) so he does 2.98 x 10^20 joules of work or 298 x 10^18...

so i got 298 quintillian joules of work to accelerate to 650mi/sec with a 600,00 ton sleigh in .001 seconds...


it could be rounding error on my part... i didn't go very exact bc i was in a hurry!

Well, it's a good thing I had you double-check my work. Turns out, we BOTH had mistakes.

First off, there are 5280 feet in every mile, so 650 miles/sec comes to 3,432,000 ft/s, which comes out to 1,046,074 m/s.

Which means acceleration comes to 1,046,074,000 m/s^2.

However, I had a slightly larger mistake. For weight, I came up with 609,628,100 kg, but you are correct with 544,320,000kg.


I got schooled by the young whippersnapper... :(

[ballisticpb]

dont feel bad wilkin you have lost the rest of us long ago.

[Tommy 17]

Originally posted by TheFontMaster
I think that just fryed my head.

I'm waiting for santa to see this thread and hear what he has to say.:blah:


what i did is not very hard... infact someone in middle school could carry out the math its just mulitplication and divide with a few basic physics equations!


the only thing i dunno about is the US standard to metric conversion... i never have to deal with that type of stuff... everything is given to us in metric!


my one teacher here was the part of the nasa project that crashed because she did the conversions wrong... the one time she gave us standard to american on a test and we said WHAT? shes like you can do it... one kid in the back said well we know you can't! WRONG THING TO SAY!

[Tommy 17]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
Well, it's a good thing I had you double-check my work. Turns out, we BOTH had mistakes.

First off, there are 5280 feet in every mile, so 650 miles/sec comes to 3,432,000 ft/s, which comes out to 1,046,074 m/s.

Which means acceleration comes to 1,046,074,000 m/s^2.

However, I had a slightly larger mistake. For weight, I came up with 609,628,100 kg, but you are correct with 544,320,000kg.


I got schooled by the young whippersnapper... :(


ouch i had there are 5287 feet in a mile! opps my bad... that right there would be my problem:( i knew i'd mess up the conversions somewhere

[wilkin250r]

Originally posted by Tommy 17
ouch i had there are 5287 feet in a mile! opps my bad... that right there would be my problem:( i knew i'd mess up the conversions somewhere

That's fine. You have a 0.1% error.

I have a 12% error. I converted using a long ton (2240 lbs) instead of the standard short ton (2000 lbs).

Unless Santa is British. They use the long ton over there, so I might be right after all.

[Tommy 17]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
That's fine. You have a 0.1% error.

I have a 12% error. I converted using a long ton (2240 lbs) instead of the standard short ton (2000 lbs).

Unless Santa is British. They use the long ton over there, so I might be right after all.


I personally wish america would adopt the metric system... it so much easier to use and would make our lives so much easier! haha

right now i'm in physics thats dealing with things such as gauss law, amperes law, change in flux, etc and man does it suck!

[wilkin250r]

Originally posted by Tommy 17
Iright now i'm in physics thats dealing with things such as gauss law, amperes law, change in flux, etc and man does it suck!

No way, that was the best part of engineering physics. Of course, I was always on the path to electrical engineering, so it was thermodynamics that sucked for me. Boyle's law, ect ect.

Have you met our good friend Maxwell, and his wonderful equations yet? Gaussian spheres, gradients, blah blah blah...

welp, I thot I was smart figuring out my algebra homework...

[Tommy 17]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
No way, that was the best part of engineering physics. Of course, I was always on the path to electrical engineering, so it was thermodynamics that sucked for me. Boyle's law, ect ect.

Have you met our good friend Maxwell, and his wonderful equations yet? Gaussian spheres, gradients, blah blah blah...

thats exactly what i'm doing!!! i just got done with maxwell and the equations for speed of light and his rewriting of amperes law...


i don't like electricity, currents, compacitor resister inductor circuits, and things like that very much... for some reason i always get directions wrong or can't figure out voltages or currents...

[wilkin250r]

Originally posted by Tommy 17
compacitor

Yeah, it doesn't look like a real strong point for you. :D

[Tommy 17]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
Yeah, it doesn't look like a real strong point for you. :D

its been a hell of a week for me haha:(

i got 3 MAJOR finals tomorrow and had one today... i got a physics 212 (all the stuff we were talking about), Math141 which is like integrals, series, and polar coordinates... then a statics physics one which is like trusses, moments, etc...


its a miracle i can even think enouf that i can make myself breath my head hurts so bad right now! haha

[44oEX]

I did all that stuff last year...you think static is hard...wait till you hit dynamic...trust me..static is easy lol

and don't feel bad I hate all the electrical stuff to.:D

[Tommy 17]

yeah that should be fun!

next semester i got...

differntial equations
dynamics physics
matrices
music 007 = easy A
Art 10
Chem 2 = organic chemistry GOD HELP ME!!!!:(

[wilkin250r]

Does somebody need the waaambulance?




Welcome to college, and real life.

[punker69q]

Originally posted by Tommy 17
yeah that should be fun!

next semester i got...

differntial equations
dynamics physics
matrices
music 007 = easy A
Art 10
Chem 2 = organic chemistry GOD HELP ME!!!!:(

You will have fun with differential equations and dynamics physics, trust me... :devil:

Next semester I got statistics (very tough) and dynamics physics 2, it's not gonna be really fun too....

[prepracing]

you forgot to factor in the helper Elves :D

[eastPAex]

you forgot slipage? thoses rein deer dont get perfect traction ya know.

[44oEX]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
Does somebody need the waaambulance?




Welcome to college, and real life.


yeah well real life...only for engineers...other classes are way easier lol.

thats why we make the good money :D

[parkers30]

nice job guys.... I didnt have time last night.

I thought dynamics was easier than Statics, but thats just me...

Next term for me:

Heat transfer
Econ 480
Organic Chem
Fluid dynamics
Comm 2


last term:

Dynamics
Thermo
CAE
Engineering Materials
Numerical Methods and Matrices

for some reason I actually enjoy this stuff? :confused:

[44oEX]

oh it's fun...I enjoy it to...but some stuff is still pretty hard.

I think dynamic was fun...just hard lol

[parkers30]

for some reason I seem to to worse in easier classes, I think I have gotten to the point of just blowing off the general ed courses

[Crashmore 22]

Hey what type of engineering are you in? I am in my third year of ME.

[44oEX]

me to

[Tommy 17]

mechanical but i may switch to civil...


not 100% sure yet... i don't declare till next semester!

[parkers30]

Junior in my ME program here