Steering stabilizers

[450r4me]

Im looking to get a steering stabilizer but I dont want to spent a fortune I just want something that works and not to expensive any seggestions.

[400exrider0004]

I also have the same problem. I have heard about Pep, Denton, and Gibson. I leaning towards Pep. Still not sure. All will be around 150.00 for a new one.

[Dave400ex]

Get the Denton

[400exrider0004]

Why denton? over Pep, or any of the others? Just wondering because I also trying to decide. :)

Josh

[chad502ex]

These steering stabilizer should be standard equipment. A must have for trail or xc riding.

i prefer rebuildable denton cause of good luck using them on a few machines..

[Dave400ex]

The Denton has worked good for me. Really any of them like the Denton would be fine, but the PEP I thought used to go from the motor mounts to the stem, I like the Denton style ones that go from the frame to the stem better.

[ronnie]

I would save your money and buy w.e.r it will last alot longer:)

Originally posted by 400exrider0004
I also have the same problem. I have heard about Pep, Denton, and Gibson. I leaning towards Pep. Still not sure. All will be around 150.00 for a new one.

Go Denton. I have a friend with a PEP that makes steering all stiff. I know 2 ppl very satisfied with Denton.

[reign24]

I use the w.e.r. for xc and it works great. just change the fluid once a year- 5wt fork oil.

[400exrider0004]

w.e.r. ????

[Jersey450R]

Originally posted by Honda MaNiAc 01
Go Denton. I have a friend with a PEP that makes steering all stiff.
:huh LOL!

[400exrider0004]

Do the stabilizers make the steering really stiff because I ride in the dunes too. Or do the stabilizers help correct bump steer, and help reduce fatigue. I dont want something that makes the steering difficult.

[ronnie]

Originally posted by 400exrider0004
Do the stabilizers make the steering really stiff because I ride in the dunes too. Or do the stabilizers help correct bump steer, and help reduce fatigue. I dont want something that makes the steering difficult.
denton and pep stabilzers are like shocks they do have setting
so you can make them stiffer are easy .buy a w.e.r they are alot better. and it will help bump steer .
:D

[400exrider0004]

im sorry but wat is a w.e.r.?

[440xcex]

Works enduro rider. Bill Ballance & other pros use them also

[fastrider450r]

a 500 dollar steeting stabilizer that is the greatest

[400exrider0004]

what makes it 500$

[440xcex]

call C&D racing #402-614-2508 he'll sell you 1 cheaper than most anyone

[Pepto_Bismol]

WER stands for Works Enduro Rider,

They manufacture mostly motocross (bike) parts, but they converted one of their steering dampners to ATV. It sells for roughly $330.00.

But, I was about to buy the PEP for 150.00, until I did alot more research.

I spoke with George at Precision for about 45 minutes asking him all types of questions. What a nice guy, never got the impression he was to busy to answer well founded questions.

In any event, after hours and hours of research, and then finally talking to George in person, I did buy the precision racing stabilizer. It will be here tomorrow. Expensive? Very, but 3 year warranty, and totally sealed, it seems to me a very sound investment. I figure, pay up front once, rather than fork over 1/3 of that cost to another product, and not be satisfied, then be out that additional 150 bucks!

I will try it out and give a full review this weekend. We are doing a "Rally Race" style hill climb up to a mountain top here in AZ on Saturday. It will prove to be a very good test.

Check this link:

http://www.rockymountainatv.com/vehicleFilter.do

Pepto:cool:

[Pepto_Bismol]

BTW,

What makes the cost?

For the more expensive units, it has to do with the initial engineering and build.

For example, Precision RACING (thanks Dave!) utilizes some very high end CAD equipment to perform the research and design.

Once the design is finished, they build say a lot of only 200 units. The particular components used in the build are high end as well. (the expense to CNC billet aluminum to fractions of a degree is not cheap) Initial costs are high, so the profit margin is minimal. Then they have to advertise. A 1/4 page ad in a magazine such as dirtwheels costs about $5,600.00 bucks, to run once, for only one month.

This is not precisions primary business, so they don't crank out the units by the thousands (say like a pentium chip from insmel).

So it's not like they are going to the bank with the profits. But every company needs to make some net profit, or they would go out of business.

At least I feel better about paying more money for a product that I know has had good R&D put into it, say versus paying 200.00 for nerf bars that are not precision at all, but require hack and bend to install, but everyone in the market is used to that, so the manufactureres get away with it.

But it's no coincidence that the likes of Farr, Little, etc starting using it. They are not sponsored by Precision, they just saw that the product works ( And I do think Precision has a great reputation for understanding damping products!)

Hope this helps!

Pepto:cool:

[400exrider0004]

Yah that helps a lot. I will look into precision racing products. Do they have a website?

Definately do a review on the stabilizer from this weekend!!!!

[Dave400ex]

It's Precision Racing Products, not Precision Concepts, they do
shocks.

I agree with Pepto. I have the Denton and am happy with it, but when I get a new 06 450R next spring, I will spend the extra money for the Precision setup...

[Pepto_Bismol]

Dave400ex,

Yah, sorry my bad.....I type to fast sometimes..

Here's the website:

http://www.precisionracingproducts.com/

Pepto:cool:

[400exrider0004]

Im thinking of going with the Denton since I hear its the best!!! Im goin to go with the rebuildable one so if anything happens. I dont race so I dont need a real expensive one, and I think the Denton will do the job, for what I would be using it for.

[Honda]

:D

http://www.********forums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4544

I think I may trade my GPR for this one!

[Honda]

Is Precision Concepts a division of Alba?

Or Seperate Company?

[Dave400ex]

Precision Concepts is seperate from Alba. They just do most of Team Alba's suspension. Bob Bell is the one who owns it, but Allen White is head of the ATV division.

Precision Concepts (http://www.precisionconceptsracing.com/Precision_content.html)

[TRX450R1]

We like the PEP's because we run 2, one on each side of the stem. That way one goes in while the other pulls out, it helps to balance the effect. We don't like the thing's hanging out front, too easy to damage.
The 2 PEP's mount forward of the engine, right on the lower frame, and clear the brake line mount by a hair if mounted crisscrossed. The left one mounts on the right side of the stem, and so on. The left one is over the right.
They work great, are adjustable and rebuildable. About $140/ea.

[bullet3z]

Could you just run 1 of the PEP's by itself? Also do you have a link to their website?

[400exrider0004]

How did the two stabilizers compare to one stabilizer? I also sent you a PM.

[jeepnrocks]

im pretty sure the pep is a 3 way and the denton and several others that are similar are 7 way..
I have the 7 way srp and have ridden a wer and a precision (bout 485 smackers) the precision dampner was like upgrading your suspension.. its just amazing and if you ride xc it will make you faster than any pipe or piston on the market..... Easily

[Honda_7x]

anyone have a picture of a stabalizer on there quad ?? alil confused about what it looks like ........

[DJJ450r]

i have a denton but i wish i woulda saved up and bought a w.e.r:ermm:

[DJJ450r]

i dont know how to post more than 1 pic at a time:blah:

[400exrider0004]

How does that denton steering stabilizer perform? Would it be a good mod to have?

[Honda_7x]

so the denton ataches to the frame and also the steering stem ??

also what is the part sticking out in the pic the adjustments?
does that ever get bumped or nocked around beings it sticks out front like that??

[KRMit]

Is there a retailer where you can order the Precision stabilizer for less than $485?

[KRMit]

I hate to double-post but I have another question and want to bump this thread...

I'm now thinking about the W.E.R. stabilizer. Rocky Mountain has it for about $325. I don't think I can afford the Precision one, but I'm still curious as to what advantage it has over the W.E.R.. Also, is RMATV the cheapest place to buy one? I Googled it but couldn't find anything.

[bullet3z]

From what I know about the WER and the Scotts they are pretty much the same thing. The Scotts tends to last a little longer. Keep in mind those units are used a lot in the dirt bike and sport bike communitys. I just don't see the advantage that the Precision unit would offer for the high price that they are asking. :confused:

[jeepnrocks]

i would say even the cheapest non rebuildable stabilizer you can find will make a nice difference. A stabilizer will be the first mod i do to every wuad i ever own