Thinking of getting a 250r

[KiethShwiggy300]

im thinking of getting a 250r i was wonder how they perform agianst a 450r i ride trails and like to go fast jump and wheelie. what has better accelertation top speed and mid range power. THnxs

[wilkin250r]

Honestly, in my opinion, if you're trying to decide between a 450r and 250r, then get the 450r.

It's got good speed and handling, and it's newer, which means less headaches, and more availability for upgrades.

The 250r is a great quad, but's it's really not ideal for somebody that is wishy-washy about owning one. They can be finicky and problematic, and buying one can be a huge gamble. You never know what kind of engine you're going to get.

If you're not absolutely, positively, dead-set on getting a 250r, then the 450r would probably suit you better. Fewer headaches.

[250r4life]

thats got to be one of the greatest responses ive heard... true true... my 250r is harder to ride and harder to ride fast, i can't run pump gas, ive got to mix oil, i burn through gas a whole lot quicker... but i wouldnt trade it for anything...

[KiethShwiggy300]

i really want a 250r but i dont know how reliable they are since i have never rode one i dont know the speed or anything but i want one mixing gas is not a problem for me

[wilkin250r]

With basic mods, the speed is comparable, but the power on 250r is much more difficult to handle.

They're more likely to break traction and spin out, and require you to shift fast and often. You've got to be real good with your clutch, and it's really easy to drop out of the powerband and get yourself into trouble. You drop out of the power in a race, and you lose two spots. You drop out on a hillclimb, you could wind up with a hefty repair bill. You drop out on the approach to a double jump, you could wind up in ICU.

Me, personally, I love my 250r for all these reasons. Simply because it IS more difficult to ride. I love the powerband, I love spinning the tires. I love the feel of climbing IN my machine, rather than on it. I become part of my machine, and I listen to her every breath.

It's kinda like marriage. If you're not absolutely in love with the 250r, and absolutely positive, then she's not for you. If there is any doubt at all in your mind, then you're probably better suited to the 450r.

And if you're worried about reliability, then she's not for you either. They're not UNreliable, but they ARE a two-stroke, and they will break.

[JTRtrx250r]

I do know owning 2strokes taught me alot, I say get 1, Dudes got some good advise.... but if ya want 1... get 1... ya gotta start somewhere

[zedicus00]

wilks once again on the ball... the main thing is having the guts to take a wrench to yur own quad cuz it will get very expensive in a hurry to hav sumone else always working on it for u.

and learning to ride a 2-stroke is difficult if not impossible for sum peeple. all the time in the seet and expert advice from other peeple cant teach you if u cant learn to think differently.

[KiethShwiggy300]

i can work on my quad like rebuild top ends stuff like that i ride my freinds 250 and 125 2 stroke dirtbike is it anything like that

[250Renvy]

What's your budget like? If you have tons of dough or need it right away, get a 450R and mod it with suspension and pipe etc.

If cash is a little short and you want to get one right away get a Z400 for trails.

If you have time to shop around, go look at a dozen or so quads (because most are sh*te then get a 250R.

I ride trails/backyard mx and fields etc and I love hammering on the gas and hitting powerband through the gears. I don't have a lot of seat time on a 450R to really compare but 2stokes rule - except on fuel economy.

After I rebuild this winter I'm thinking I may try out the 450's though.

[KiethShwiggy300]

i have around 25/2700 i looked at the z400/raptors im coming up from a 300ex and want something that im not gunna get bored of the power like i did on my 300

[wilkin250r]

2700 is going to get a low-end 250r, but it's possible to find one for that price. I DON'T think it's possible to find a 450 for that price.

Is there a reason you don't want to go with a 400EX?

[JTRtrx250r]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
2700 is going to get a low-end 250r, but it's possible to find one for that price. I DON'T think it's possible to find a 450 for that price.

Is there a reason you don't want to go with a 400EX? I agree

and ...yeah....?

[KiethShwiggy300]

i dont want a 400ex cuz i rodee them and i dont like how they handle and i want something faster than that i would consider kfx/z400 though if i could find a nice cheap one.

[xx3003xrdrxx]

if your having second thoughts about it , and youve never ridden one , then go off and buy a brand new 450r . If you dont think you have the talent to be good on a 2 stroke then you most likely dont.

[250Renvy]

250R 450R, 400ex, Z400 - all basically a moot point because you don't have enough money to get a decent one of either, well maybe 400ex but you said you don't want one so....

Definitely get a 450R - go to your dealer and pay $40 a month for a year and take 10 years to pay it off. Ha ha. they make it too easy.

yeah, do that.

[xx3003xrdrxx]

DONT do that , in ten years you might not even ride , and you will most likely sick and tired of having a 450r , by then there could very well be 1000 cc quads out and yours will be completley outdated, and you will still be paying payments!

[ESR250R]

i must say i bought my 250r 5 years ago and it has had excellent dependability and the easy of working on this thing is nothing short of amazing. i dont like the idea of valve adjustments every 20 hours, and ripping apart a entire engine bay to adjust your jetting. but like everyone else is saying, it takes alot more talent and effort to ride a 2 stroke and be fast.

[fugitivracing65]

From what you have stated IMO go to the dealer and get a 450r it doesnt sound like you have the time or money to get a 250r to its full potential. The 250 is going to be a bit more difficult to ride. I have been riding mine for six years now and i can hear when it is overheating, the plug is going bad etc. i have become one with my bike, we have only fought once and she threw me over the handle bars.

[wilkin250r]

Originally posted by KiethShwiggy300
i dont want a 400ex cuz i rodee them and i dont like how they handle and i want something faster than that i would consider kfx/z400 though if i could find a nice cheap one.

You don't like how they handle? :huh

Then I got news for you, you're not going to like anything.

In stock form, the 400EX has probably the best handling characteristics of any quad. The KFX frame is almost identical, are you expecting the KFX to handle any better?

The only advantage the new 450s have over the 400EX is power. In fact, many people say the YFZ has WORSE handling in the small stuff, the suspension is a little stiff.

As for power, the KFX is going to have a slight edge on the 400EX in stock form, but not by much. You might see a difference in a flat drag race, but not in the woods.

Now, if you don't think you're going to be happy with a 400EX, then by all means, don't get one. There's no point in buying a quad you're going to be dissapointed in. But for 2700, I'm not sure you're going to be able to find exactly what you're looking for.

[JTRtrx250r]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
You don't like how they handle? :huh

Then I got news for you, you're not going to like anything.

In stock form, the 400EX has probably the best handling characteristics of any quad. The KFX frame is almost identical, are you expecting the KFX to handle any better?

The only advantage the new 450s have over the 400EX is power. In fact, many people say the YFZ has WORSE handling in the small stuff, the suspension is a little stiff.

As for power, the KFX is going to have a slight edge on the 400EX in stock form, but not by much. You might see a difference in a flat drag race, but not in the woods.

Now, if you don't think you're going to be happy with a 400EX, then by all means, don't get one. There's no point in buying a quad you're going to be dissapointed in. But for 2700, I'm not sure you're going to be able to find exactly what you're looking for. ;)