Car Audio Junkies

[250exrder]

ok so heres the deal, i got a new car and im gunna put a system in it, ive got about 500 to spend:

i was thinking 2 Polk Audio 12's

http://cgi.ebay.com/POLK-AUDIO-MM2124DVC-12-MOMO-DVC-SUBWOOFER-SUB-NEW_W0QQitemZ5826014736QQcategoryZ18803QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

AND this audio bahn 800t amp

http://cgi.ebay.com/Audiobahn-A8002T-Intake-2CH-800W-Chrome-Amp-NEW_W0QQitemZ5825040045QQcategoryZ48597QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

with a panasonic head unit

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-BetcOd26qfq/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=300&I=133C8100

Im lookin for some advice on what i should get if thats NOT a good setup.
Comments/Suggestions wanted

[Giz400ex]

My suggestion is to save more money if your serious about your music. To get a complete sounding auto your gonna have to spend ALOT more than that. I would definetly change the head unit and don't forget about your mids and highs to compensate with the thumping.

[MAaudioX10]

I'll start off first by saying none of those links were valid ebay accounts...

Second, how old are you?

[brandon34r]

I'm gonna say JL Audio all the way.You cant beat it.
I Have a jl10w7 with the jl 500/1 monoblock amp in my srt and its simply amazing.I also have the high output ported jl box,all in all it weighs close to 150 pounds but that one 10inch sub puts my old 15inch rockford comps to shame.

So with that said, go all JL audio and you wont be disappointed

[MAaudioX10]

Originally posted by brandon34r
I'm gonna say JL Audio all the way.You cant beat it.
I Have a jl10w7 with the jl 500/1 monoblock amp in my srt and its simply amazing.I also have the high output ported jl box,all in all it weighs close to 150 pounds but that one 10inch sub puts my old 15inch rockford comps to shame.

So with that said, go all JL audio and you wont be disappointed

LOL....as stated above, this kid is on a budget...being that anything JL is overrated and overpriced, for $500 he couldn't even get a JL battery connector.

[brandon34r]

got my JL set-up for 250 bucks used for 1 month,and in perfect condition.
All you have to do is look around and you will find for much cheaper

[rider250ex]

Powerbass...

[IOWAracer]

I am runnin a 12" Kicker comp series and a kx1502 amp it hitts real ahrd and i am in a little single cab S -10

[dangle]

I got 2 dvc boston acoustic 10's (140$)w/ a kenwood 1000watt sub amp(300$), kenwood kdc-8025 HU(300$)and infinity kappa perfects(70$a pair) in the doors in my extended cab f150.....


Mike

[yzcrashbandit]

just keep looking until you find a killer deal car audio places around me are always running crazy deals like i have a coustic 601 amd and 2 12" kicker comp vrs and i got the amp and the subs for 500 and you can easily get a good sounding full system for 500. Just get a good brand because some companies over rate their stuff bad. they may say its a 800 watt amp and will not even be close. i would suggest going to a local dealer and telling them what you want and how much you want to spend and let them do the rest.

[yzcrashbandit]

if you are interested i have 1 MTX 8000 12". It is a really good sub and if you put it with the right amp it will sound great. i was pushing two of them with my coustic amp and it was loud. pm me if you are interested.

[cabex]

I have two Audiobahn DVC 12s, and a power akustic 1800 mono block amp in 4.2 cubic foot box. it thumps pretty hard to say the least

[Loser450]

Memphis Audio (http://www.memphiscaraudio.com)

Nuff said.

[vtslick19]

Alpine is the way to go, nothing but the finest. An R-series 10 or 12 with a MRD-M301 is simplistic, but can put out some bass. Also need to account for cost of wires and building/buying a box. What kind of car are you putting the system in?

[250exrder]

im 17, why do u ask?

and i was lookin at alpines too they seem solid and ive heard good things bout them

nah thanks crash bandit im gunna buy new stuff

is it possible to power a 2 dvc 4 ohm subs with a 2 channel amp, but some how get the 2ohm rms wattage to them?(2ohm is always higher) i wanna wire them parrallel cuz u get more power from ur amp that way, correct?

someone enlighten me i dont know that much bout this stuff, and no im not too serious bout this audio deal but i do want something to sound good in my jetta. im not tryin to break any spl records here.

[trx400exxracer]

Alpine

[motox450]

Stereos are like most other things. You get what you pay for. If I were you I would look into JL's, Eclipse, and spend some money. If you want to get decent subs that kick, get JL W6 v2. They are great for the cash. If it were me I would save and get 1 JL 12 W7. They hit very hard, but are one of the best sounding subs you can find. It is very expensive though. As for amps for subs get a mono class D sub. It will stay cooler and will give more constant, and consistant power to your subs. I would again search around to find what you want to fit your budget and how you want it to sound. Now a days you can get just about anything and make it loud, but if you really want to do a system right, sound quailty should be #1 on your list. I used to have about $6000 in equipment in my old truck and then sold it all off. I need something again because you realize how terrible stock car stereos are. If you have more questions let me know I installed this stuff for a long time a couple years back and just got out of it.

[MAaudioX10]

Originally posted by 250exrder
im 17, why do u ask?

and i was lookin at alpines too they seem solid and ive heard good things bout them

nah thanks crash bandit im gunna buy new stuff

is it possible to power a 2 dvc 4 ohm subs with a 2 channel amp, but some how get the 2ohm rms wattage to them?(2ohm is always higher) i wanna wire them parrallel cuz u get more power from ur amp that way, correct?

someone enlighten me i dont know that much bout this stuff, and no im not too serious bout this audio deal but i do want something to sound good in my jetta. im not tryin to break any spl records here.

The reason why I asked is to get an better idea of what to suggest.....

Most people that are under 18 tend to care more about the bass then the sound quality of the system as a whole. I know I did when I was 17. Didn't much care about how good it sounded. Only that it pissed the guy in front of me off.

For $500, it is slim pickins....not to sure you will find anything half way decent. I mean, stereos will nickel and dime you to death. You'll have at least $150 in the box and wiring. Any good amplifier will run in the $250-$500 range......

So, really, I can't really give you my professional opinion...

[blasterfury7474]

First, dont buy a system from Ebay. You get ripped off. Second, if you only have $500 go to www.etronics.com and get some Lanzar HRWDC12 !2'' subs and a Lanzar VIBE261 two channel amp. This setup get you 1000 rms/ 2000 peak watts. This system thumps hard and has good sound quality. It will only set you back about $400. Then you can put that other $100 into your car.

[Flip_SideEX]

Im 17, 16 when I bought this stuff but im still satisfied with what i have. I know its not the best, but I didnt want to waste my hearing by the time I was 25. So I know some of you might critize my choices but I think it sounds good.
amp= MA audio 800 watts x 2 chan @ 4 ohms $400
subs=2x Audionbahn AW1251T 12 inch 400 rms $45 each
box= sealed recently changed to ported $40
Wiring Kit= $40

It all depends on what price you want to pay, and for what price you pay for the items, is the quality you are going to get. I havent had a problem with my stuff. But I know alot of people wouldnt agree with what I chose to buy.

[crux131]

Not sure what you are going for, but you can get a decent start for 500.

I have found decent prices at ikesound.com. Just ordered 2 pheonix gold component sets today, one for my truck, and the other for my car......cost around 200 shipped.

Hifonics amps are ok, not the best, but would rather run those than legacy or pyramid. They have those on sale right now.

Might try getting a 4 channel amp, and bridgeing it for 3 channel use. use an amplifier with a built in crossover, run 2 channels as high pass, and set the bridged 2 channels to low pass.

Run a good set of coaxials for highs, and maybe a 10" sub for your lows.

Panasonic head units are decent, I am running one in my crx, and it is a good basic unit, and has been entirely dependable.

This a basic overview of a set up, but I am unsure what your goals are for the system. With this basic system, you can easily later upgrade by adding another amplifier and more subs.When you do this you can switch your current amp to power just your highs. either bridging the amp to 2 channels, and increasing the power, or by adding rear speakers and reconfiguring the amplifier to run 4 channels.

Remember, a system is only as good as the install, so don't skimp here. Make sure your sub box is built to spec for the subwoofer, use the propper guage wire for the amplifier, and keep the power and signal cables routed away from each other.

[MOFO]

Originally posted by MAaudioX10


So, really, I can't really give you my professional opinion...


Yes, you did/can. I agree as well... he should save up more money before he buys anything.

Thats what I'd recommend. Dont just create a "noise maker".

[250exrder]

got the alpine 9843...real sick head unit thanks for the advice on alpine....now for subs and amp

im thinkin 1 polk audio momo 12" (400 rms)

or 1 12" infinity ref. (300 rms)

wut amp?

[MAaudioX10]

Originally posted by MOFO
Yes, you did/can. I agree as well... he should save up more money before he buys anything.

Thats what I'd recommend. Dont just create a "noise maker".

Well, technically, I did give an opinion but, I meant as in what equipment to run.

[G Impala 63n70]

Do like me,
JL 12w7-700
3/4 Box for it-120
and I dont have a specific amp i switch on and off..Bumps a little bit lol

And for the idiot who says JL is overrated and overpriced, id like you to come listen to my subs, and other peoples setups around here (w6v2 and w7's)
Then id like to shut you up

Oh also i have a JL w6 in the 70 corvette in a tube, with a kenwood amp on it, and Boy........Ouch it hurts to listen to.

I know this is all out of what u wanna spend, but if you want to get an erection over sound..Go JL

[ZBlaster]

Originally posted by G Impala 63n70
Do like me,
JL 12w7-700
3/4 Box for it-120
and I dont have a specific amp i switch on and off..Bumps a little bit lol

And for the idiot who says JL is overrated and overpriced, id like you to come listen to my subs, and other peoples setups around here (w6v2 and w7's)
Then id like to shut you up

Oh also i have a JL w6 in the 70 corvette in a tube, with a kenwood amp on it, and Boy........Ouch it hurts to listen to.

I know this is all out of what u wanna spend, but if you want to get an erection over sound..Go JL

ill put my setup against yours any day... dollar for dollar...

im running 1 15" Resonant Engineering MT and im am EXTREMELY pleased with it... ive owned several high end subs and have yet to have something compare... Resonant Engineering is a fairly new company that doesnt advertise a whole lot but makes very good equipment...

for amps im running 2 US Amps 2000X's that again i absolutely love... i had 2 Earthquake D2 shredders on it before and they were impressive, but these are just so much cleaner sounding, and the power is a little higher...

i have quite a bit in my setup though... $325 for the sub and the amps i bought off my cousin for $1200 which is a damn good price for them if u know US Amps you know thats a deal... the box im running is a 3.75 cubic foot ported at 32 hz. in the back of a 2004 chevy tahoe, its setup for SLAPshow competitions and has yet to let me down...

[LT250Racer609]

ECLIPSE ECLIPSE ECLIPSE.....i have had audiobahn,memphis, and JL subs and now i have a eclipse titanium sub and i havent heard one sub compare to it....with my one 10" titanium and audiobahn 840 digital watt amp i hit 147 DB's on the dash.....

[crux131]

Wow, we have a fan for every brand out there in this thread...lol

My suggestion would be to check shops, and see what equipment you like.

I used to think Alpine was the S#!t, but then their equipment started to get too cluttered for my taste. Then I got the eclipse bug, still like a lot of their stuff, but kind of lost interest in the newest head units styling( I am also not a fan of cramming a lot of stuff in a unit, then jacking the price up....I like a simple, high quality head unit ). Now I just shop for the model that suits my needs.

And just if anyone reading this is curious, I run the following:

1991 Honda crx:
Panasonic am/fm cd/mp3 head unit...basic, but gets the job done.
2 Kicker 30x2 amplifiers( underrated output :D ) using built in crossovers.
1 12" Kicker comp subwoofer ( it was cheap, and offers a decent sound quality ).
a pair of Phoenix gold zr series 6.5" components ( still fiberglassing the doors, might be awhile :( )

1996 GMC immy:
Eclipse headunit with mp3
Cerwin vega stealth series subs (12"x2) and 6.5" components in front doors/dash
MB Quart discus series 5.25" components in the rear ( heavily attenuated, purely for a light fill )
A Hifonics 5 channel amplifier running everything using built in crosovers.

Mazda b2000:

Clarion pro audio head unit
Audio control eql
mtx 2 way electronic crossover
mtx thunder 280 amp for subwoofer
mtx thunder 240 amp for front components
Memphis audio 6.5" components mounted in custom fiberglass kick panels
10" cerwin vega "Vega" series subwoofer in a ported enclosure.


None of these are extrememly elaborate, but all have a decent sound for every day listening.
All of these systems were built on a tight budget( Mortgage sucks ), but are all more than "noisemakers".

oh yeah, some of this stuff was bought because I thought it would be fun to play with ....lol

[babyboy]

Originally posted by LT250Racer609
ECLIPSE ECLIPSE ECLIPSE.....i have had audiobahn,memphis, and JL subs and now i have a eclipse titanium sub and i havent heard one sub compare to it....with my one 10" titanium and audiobahn 840 digital watt amp i hit 147 DB's on the dash.....

Yea eclipse, other than he said he only had $500, Eclipse is THE most overpriced stuff out there...

147db, sounds like a mic tap to me!! not that it is impossible, but not likely accomplished by your average joe with such small equipment

[brandon34r]

I know this is all out of what u wanna spend, but if you want to get an erection over sound..Go JL

Thats exactally how i feel everytime i get in my car and the bass hits:D :D

[250exrder]

TYPE R 12" VS. INFINITY KAPPA PERFECT 12" BOTH DVC 4OHMS

ready set go

[450r51]

cerwin vegas the only way to go!


if u dont know what they are u shouldnt even buy a system.

[04raptor]

i had a kicker 15 dual voice coil 1000 watt peak 700 rms $250, with a bazooka 500 watt 2 channel amp $180 with jvc head unit $169 i would go with kicker subs never heard something better

[brandon34r]

i hafta say this again.... save up some money and go JL audio...you will never regret getting jl subs and amp

[KsE450]

well 250exrder,

I'd say go with the 12" Alpine R-type. I myself have the low end e-types, but they sound pretty darn good for being what they are.

I've heard pretty much nuthin' but good things about the Rs, plus the sub would match the head unit then. I always like to have some matching components...

[250exrder]

alrite so i ordered my subs/amp from ikesound.com

i got one Alpine type r 12" (4ohm dvc) gunna wire it parrallel to get a 2 ohm load.

and a Alpine MRP-M350 (350 rms @2ohms)

comments? suggestions?

im gunna get a ported box, but dont really wanna spend around 100 bucks for one. anyone know where there are some good prices??

[440bigborekit]

just save up for the rest of your life and buy a mtx jackhammer nobody will bump like you........lol......but in my opinion if you wanna spend a lil bit of money go with all JL you can find there stuff used for good prices you just have to look around.

[LT250Racer609]

from what i have read and heard the 18" eclipse Titanium Pro is louder then the 22" inch MTX jackhammer....not to mention only 1500.00 for a single Eclipse pro sub....

[walsh450rmx21]

well for a car idk.
but in my chevy 2500hd i have been working on it for abotu a year now.
i have 6 kicker l7 15's...
3 matts 3000 watts..
i have it ported threw my cab..
i also have 16 emines 8's.. a kicker 850.4.
then i have 10 bullets's with another 850.4..
i did it all by myself idk how much cash i have into it but its awsome. and i have a alpine flip out head unit..

[ZBlaster]

Originally posted by walsh450rmx21
well for a car idk.
but in my chevy 2500hd i have been working on it for abotu a year now.
i have 6 kicker l7 15's...
3 matts 3000 watts..
i have it ported threw my cab..
i also have 16 emines 8's.. a kicker 850.4.
then i have 10 bullets's with another 850.4..
i did it all by myself idk how much cash i have into it but its awsome. and i have a alpine flip out head unit..


Exactly what parts # MMats amps are u running, how much did it cost you and where did you get it... what ohm load are you running at, parallel or series sub wiring... whats the specs on box size... how tight of a fit is it in an ext. cab for 6 L7 15's... id love to see pics of this considering my buddy can barely fit 4 in a wall in the same kind of truck...

[walsh450rmx21]

FIRST OFF DICK FACE ITS NOT A EXT CAB.
its just a long bed and i did a blow threw into my cab. the subs r in a huge box in my bed and the port come threw to my cab..
and ill get a pic..
and idk ill ask my freind he works for a speaker shop and he did all the wiring building th ebox and such..
i paid 950.64 each for the matts amp's..
the subs r 2 ohm i know that..
i have 4 fuse's. and alot of other ****.
im going to see him tonight and ill ask him.
i dont know much about hooking it all up but i know what to buy.

but ill ge tu all the info u want..

[kdub33]

Everybody has their own personal opinion about car audio. As for myself, I personally like JL, Kicker, and RFosgate. I'd go with a kicker set-up. But it won't be in the $500 range. A kicker L7 12'', kicker amp, and a ported box will literally shake your head apart. Although its over the $1000 range, you WILL NOT be disappointed. JL is also extremely good. JL w7 I also recommend. I would try and save some more money before you buy a system. I spent $700 on mine and I'm not all that happy with it. 2 RFosgate 10'', sealed box..power akoustik plasma series 150x2 360x1 bridged. The amp is steller, but I'm looking to buy a kicker compVR 12'' also remember...subs with HUGE magnets and small rms wattage will sound louder with a small magnet and more rms wattage.

[trx400exxracer]

when I get older I am probably gonna get jl audio or kicker

[kdub33]

Originally posted by trx400exxracer
when I get older I am probably gonna get jl audio or kicker

you'll never be disappointed with JL or Kicker.

[kdub33]

I had a buddy of mine go with 2 JL 10w0's when they still continued them. pushed by a 300w fosgate amp. they only had 125 rms wattage. and they absolutely killed. you literally hear him coming from a mile away. also havin a hatchback helped him out..(firebird)

[walsh450rmx21]

i dont want to come off as a bad kid or nothing.
but i have worked my ***** off for 6 months to get my system done and i really dont know much about hooking it up.
i know how to build a box and little stuff but im not a pro.
and i think i have some were around 5k in the whole system.
ill gets pics when the truck is bad from getting painted.
and ill get the ohm's and all that stuff for ya.

[TGW_400ex]

If your going to buy a sub buy a good one but don't get JL. RE's are much cheaper and will blow away JL's. My friend has a single RE XXX in a s10 and man nothing in this town even compares to it.

[ZBlaster]

Originally posted by walsh450rmx21
FIRST OFF DICK FACE ITS NOT A EXT CAB.
its just a long bed and i did a blow threw into my cab. the subs r in a huge box in my bed and the port come threw to my cab..
and ill get a pic..
and idk ill ask my freind he works for a speaker shop and he did all the wiring building th ebox and such..
i paid 950.64 each for the matts amp's..
the subs r 2 ohm i know that..
i have 4 fuse's. and alot of other ****.
im going to see him tonight and ill ask him.
i dont know much about hooking it all up but i know what to buy.

but ill ge tu all the info u want..

i wasnt trying to be a smartass, just asking questions... u never mentioned the blow through... im assuming the sub is a dual 4 if ur running it at 2 ohm correct?

[ZBlaster]

Originally posted by TGW_400ex
If your going to buy a sub buy a good one but don't get JL. RE's are much cheaper and will blow away JL's. My friend has a single RE XXX in a s10 and man nothing in this town even compares to it.

exactly... im running 1 RE MT 15" off of 2 US Amps 2000X's and am in love with it... its insanely loud in 3.25 cubes... RE makes GREAT, cheaper pricewise subs...

[tater_kamik]

im a fan of jl, not a big fan of kicker though. i also love diamond audio and focal. my new system is definately going to be diamond speakers all around, not sure which sub yet as i am going to be doing a downfiring box under the rear seat of an quad cab f150 and im not sure how much mounting depth im going to end up with yet... my last system i ran two alpine type r 12's in a sealed box. pretty clean and fairly tight. i ran those with an alpine v12 500w rms amp (i forgot the model number) great product for the price, but definately better sq than my system before that which consisted of two zapco z600's and two hcca 12d's. i ran the kicket l7's when they first came out for a little bit in a ported box, never was that impressed with them personally, i prefer the older kicker subwoofers over the newer square subs (though i havent heard the latest generation of the kicker subs, i have gotten out of car ausio a little bit)

[Fender Bender]

WOW, this thread has more BS than factual information. What can you expect on a website full of puberty driven kids that are pissed off about their newly found hair in odd places?



My suggestion is to save more money if your serious about your music. To get a complete sounding auto your gonna have to spend ALOT more than that. I would definetly change the head unit and don't forget about your mids and highs to compensate with the thumping.

MOST DEFINITELY. Everyone and their brother has a couple of woofers that go boom boom and rattle their cars. About 1 in every 10 probably have a stereo that will produce sound quality. Please for the love of god don't be another Bubba Subs in the Trunk.


I'm gonna say JL Audio all the way.You cant beat it.
I Have a jl10w7 with the jl 500/1 monoblock amp in my srt and its simply amazing.I also have the high output ported jl box,all in all it weighs close to 150 pounds but that one 10inch sub puts my old 15inch rockford comps to shame.

So with that said, go all JL audio and you wont be disappointed

While I agree with the fact that you most likely wont be disappointed with JL, there is definitely better products.




LOL....as stated above, this kid is on a budget...being that anything JL is overrated and overpriced, for $500 he couldn't even get a JL battery connector.

Thank you.




is it possible to power a 2 dvc 4 ohm subs with a 2 channel amp, but some how get the 2ohm rms wattage to them?(2ohm is always higher) i wanna wire them parrallel cuz u get more power from ur amp that way, correct?

Considering your amplifier is stable at a 1 ohm load, this is how you can wire 2 dual voice coil 4 ohm subwoofers to creat a 1 ohm load.

http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/rftech/wiringwizard/2_4ohmDVC_1ohm.gif

However, I recommend you use 1 woofer in a ported enclosure. It will sound a LOT better, and be louder if thats what you are trying to achieve, than trying to squeeze 2 or more woofers into a small space. In this situation, you will be able to create a 2 ohm load when wired like this:

http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/rftech/wiringwizard/1_4ohmDVC_2ohm.gif

*Note that this is considering that you are using a subwoofer with dual voice coils x 4Ohms.


Stereos are like most other things. You get what you pay for.

VERY true.


get some Lanzar HRWDC12 !2'' subs and a Lanzar VIBE261 two channel amp. This setup get you 1000 rms/ 2000 peak watts. This system thumps hard and has good sound quality. It will only set you back about $400. Then you can put that other $100 into your car.

Sounds scary.


got the alpine 9843...real sick head unit thanks for the advice on alpine....now for subs and amp

Very good choice, you should be more than happy with that h/u.



im thinkin 1 polk audio momo 12" (400 rms)

or 1 12" infinity ref. (300 rms)


I would seriously think about getting a different woofer. Check out http://www.reaudio.com/ and look at the RE, or SE series woofers. You have to order over the phone, but that is more secure than ordering from a website in my opinion. I would rank this class of woofers higher than all of the high-end mainstream brands such as JL, Kicker, etc.


wut amp?

Once you choose a subwoofer, then you can look for an amplifier.



And for the idiot who says JL is overrated and overpriced, id like you to come listen to my subs, and other peoples setups around here (w6v2 and w7's)
Then id like to shut you up

Sandwiches talk? You must not have heard anything but JL. People like you are the reason I wish I didn't have JL subwoofers, you act like because you and everyone else has and likes them that they are the cream of the crop. I can't argue the fact that they are very nice products, but there is a LOT that sound better than that whored company.


TYPE R 12" VS. INFINITY KAPPA PERFECT 12" BOTH DVC 4OHMS

Between the two, Type R's. But I would still revise your choices.



Now after all of this about choosing a brand of this, a brand of that, have you thought about the essentials of the stereo? You need to factor in the size of where you are going to put it, what kind of box you are going to put the driver in, etc.

Believe it or not, the box WILL make or break the system. It isn't all about the brands and watts.

Good luck on your car audio voyage, I suggest you register and get some useful information at http://www.carstereos.org/

Have a good'n
:)

[250exrder]

thanks for all that^ fender bender. i ordered 1 12" type r and also got the alpine mrp 700 i think its 350 watts rms at 2 ohms which is wut ill wire the sub at(500 rms). im gunna make a ported box for it or buy one i havent decided yet.

[400exc]

is lightning audio good, im gettin 2 subs 10 inch 750 watts power, what amp should i get with it? I dont plan on putting out a ton of bass, but some good booms.

[Fender Bender]

Originally posted by 400exc
is lightning audio good, im gettin 2 subs 10 inch 750 watts power, what amp should i get with it? I dont plan on putting out a ton of bass, but some good booms.

No.

Exactly what woofers are you looking at buying?

[nakomis0]

http://powered4sound.com/

A snail shell with an RE 10 or 12" and you will be blown away.
I put that in my girls car with a Fosgate bd 1500 and its loud.

[400exc]

lightning audio's 12 inch 750 watt sub, do they put out ok bass? as long as they put out some good bass for people to hear good, im ok

[Fender Bender]

Originally posted by 400exc
lightning audio's 12 inch 750 watt sub, do they put out ok bass? as long as they put out some good bass for people to hear good, im ok

Wait... you want other people to hear it? The better route for you to take is to stay away from car audio completely. No one else cares if you have loud speakers in your car. I have actually ran across someone who has extensive ear damage from shooting firearms in the military, and when they hear your awesome stereo, it causes them extreme pain. Bump responsibly, or don't bother bumping at all.

[walsh450rmx21]

iight i talked to my freind and he tryed to explain and i got lost fast. so tomorrow or somthing he is going to come over and put it here for ya..
and sry for jumping your ***** but alot of ppl say im lieing and im proud of what i got on my own..