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CaptainCanuck
11-07-2005, 05:41 PM
Oh boy, my teacher is at it again with piling Huck Finn essays on. Here is the question/topic:

Frederick Douglas (ex-slave and abolitionist) wrote, "You have seen how a man was made a slave, now you shall see how a slave was made a man." What does this mean? How can you apply this quote to the story of Jim in Huck Finn?

We have never learned about Frederick Douglas so his history doesn't apply to the essay (just the quote does). A

Anyone wanna chime in? Possibly Wilkins...Thanks guys.
fast_enough
11-07-2005, 07:13 PM
It means that you should not come to an ATV site looking for answers to your English assignment. LOL j/k, ask your english teacher
CaptainCanuck
11-07-2005, 09:14 PM
I can't ask my English teacher. I have class in 2 days and I have no way of talking to her. Plus, she wouldnt give me any information because shes a mean lady.

Wilkins....!!!!!!!!!!!1
YFZ450Ridr
11-07-2005, 09:25 PM
drop him a PM;)
CaptainCanuck
11-07-2005, 09:27 PM
Yeah, I could do that but I thought this way would be a better way to grab his attention and it still opens up to other people to reply.
SGA
11-07-2005, 10:44 PM
Frederick Douglass is talking about himself.
He is beaten down to a broken spirited slave, then stands up against those who beat him down and he becomes a man.

Read this.
http://www.vgskole.net/prosjekt/slavrute/31.htm
CaptainCanuck
11-08-2005, 07:25 AM
Thanks a lot. Wilkins, if you're out there...
CaptainCanuck
11-08-2005, 10:43 PM
TTT
11-09-2005, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by CaptainCanuck
TTT
watts16
11-09-2005, 04:40 PM
haha i just started that book today
CaptainCanuck
11-09-2005, 11:20 PM
have fun with that. haha, i hated all the work my teacher gave.


ANYONE??? Please...
11-10-2005, 10:06 PM
ttt:rolleyes:
beerock
11-10-2005, 10:33 PM
sga answered you, i would have said the same thing. and wilkin might be scratchin his arse figuring it out :devil:
wilkin250r
11-11-2005, 10:58 AM
No, actually I was out of town for a week.


This one is rather simple. There is more to slavery than physical ownership.

The first thing you would ask yourself is: "What makes a man a slave?" Is it just the fact that somebody owns him, or is there more?

Well, duh, OBVIOUSLY there's more to it than ownership. There is a psychological aspect, as well as social mannerisms and behavior.

A slave is NOT allowed to approach a white person and talk to him as an equal.

A slave has no rights.

A slave does not complain about his living conditions, or workload.

A slave does NOT eat at the main dinner table, they are not part of the family.

These are just a few examples, and rather simple and obvious ones. But think about it, there are MANY aspects. Imagine you see a group of guys kidnapping a young girl, presumably to drag her off somewhere and rape her. If that girl is a slave, it's almost acceptable. If she's white, and YOU are white, you are obligated to step in as a "man" and stop it. But what if she's white, and YOU are a slave? Are you still able to step in and stop it?

These are just social aspects, there is a much larger realm of psychological aspects. Your dignity, self-esteem, pride in yourself, pride in ownership of your possessions, and your sense of responsibility and accountability.

Indeed, slavery is more than just ownership.

So how does that relate to Jim? He was a slave, and is now a free man. So pull specific examples of Jim's transformation. Give examples of times HE made the decisions instead of Huck, or when he made suggestions and talked to Huck (a white person) as and equal. You'll find at the beginning of the journey, Jim was a slave in every sense of the word, and slowly as they travel downriver, Jim began to act more as an equal, and less like a slave. He began to take responsiblity, accountability, and make suggestions and decisions that affected them both. He did things that no "slave" would ever do.
SGA
11-11-2005, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by wilkin250r
The full answer

I feel a copy, paste, print and handed into the teacher is coming up.
beerock
11-11-2005, 01:02 PM
sga= short and sweet

wilkin= captin canucks paper :eek2:
CaptainCanuck
11-12-2005, 11:12 AM
Thank you Wilkin. I owe you so much man.

And no, a copy and paste isnt coming. I write the essay after i analyze his answer and make it my own

Thanks again/
DeerNuts
11-12-2005, 04:30 PM
You do realize Wilkin250r is giving you all this help in the belief that you will be able to analyze and interpret literature better--hopefully on your own, right? What I'm saying is don't use his help as a crutch.

I'd be pretty grateful. You know, a case of beer sent Priority Mail or something goes a long way as a gift! Just a thought.

Wilkin is the man.
CaptainCanuck
11-13-2005, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by DeerNuts
You do realize Wilkin250r is giving you all this help in the belief that you will be able to analyze and interpret literature better--hopefully on your own, right? What I'm saying is don't use his help as a crutch.

I'd be pretty grateful. You know, a case of beer sent Priority Mail or something goes a long way as a gift! Just a thought.

Wilkin is the man.

Like i said before, i look at what he said and analyze it and see how our opinions contrast on the subject. From there, I put it down on paper and bam...out comes a beauty of a paper. As for the beer, i dont know if i could send it through the mail without getting smashed because most certainly, does the guy deserve it. Maybe, I could send something else.