colors

[luvmyex]

im thinking about a new color.I have silver plastic. Wanting a candy blue or trans blue frame and sub. Im not too sure what to do with the a-arms and swingarm though. I maybe chroming the top a arms. Or thinking about the almost chrome PC. Do you have any pics of the almost chrome? And what would you recomend on the arms and swinger?thanks

[Pappy]

the chrome pc looks like a bright silver with gloss. i will try and get some good pics of it.


id choose a color for the arms and swinger that compliment the plastic color.

[luvmyex]

such as? Im not so good at matching. I saw something about some colors dont look good on aftermarket swingarms??? I have both houser a arms and singer if thats any help.

[Pappy]

well, you will want to figure out a seat cover/graphics kit if your going to run one, and build on the color scheme from there.

i know you ride alot of big trail systems, so if it were me id go more for durability then looks on the arms. maybe silvervein with clear on them and the swinger. it would tie in the silver fenders with the trans blue frame.

[luvmyex]

Is there a way to make it more silver than black? I dont really like the way it turns so blackish with wear. But i dont know if the houser arms( that i got from you, thanks again ) had clear on em.I know my sub frame didnt. And as of now im not thinking about using any graphics. The swinger is houser red now, how would that go with it? Or maybe some sort of black?

[Pappy]

its been so long i dont remeber, but if they are turning black then no, they were not cleared.

black works great, especially the stealth black.

[luvmyex]

So if the silvervien is clear it wont change right? And do ya have a pic of the stealth? i have a black frame and silvervien sub now. But it dont stand out like that blue will. What do ya think of
Trans or candy blue frame and sub
chrome upper arms
black lower arms
black swinger
black oil tank thats been polished

or do ya think the silvervien would look better than black?
and my last ? what is involved in PC'n the brake cyclinders?they have to be rebuilt? and is there much to that?

[JDiablo]

stealth black

[luvmyex]

just looked at all the colors is the other fourm. I like that prism black. Think it would look ok with the trans blue? Im sorry for the 40 ?'s but i want this one to look sweet! I never really liked the one i mentioned

[Pappy]

id say stealth or gloss black would look fine with the trans blue frame.


the calipers are gravy

[400exbiggun]

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid192/p32cb82a06a0f571f21ed61241cd74f1b/f1acc660.jpg
There ya go, best of all worlds.
Candy blue, gloss black and stealth black.

[luvmyex]

you da man! thanks that helped alot. Your right pappy, the stealth would go best with the silver plastic i think. And would be really sweet with chrome. I think we have a winner! How long of a turn around do you usually have. Im in no hurry really.I want to wait so i dont loose the best time of the year to ride.But i have a extra frame.So i may get that done and the arms and swingarm later.

Do you clear the trans colors to help protect em? I probably would the gloss black but not sure on the stealth either??? I want the best of both worlds here looks and durability:D

[Pappy]

adding clear usually depends on the part, the color chosen and if the customer wants to pay for it:p gloss colors are brillant and can haze when subjected to riding conditions encountered, so clear can help. on the stealth, its a satin/matt color so it doesnt show the sheen deterioration gloss colors will so it actually helps hide scuffs etc.

ive been turning most parts in a week or less, although shipping has been killing me:p i miss ordered bubble wrap and it has me jammed up but after thursday i will be back in action:D

[luvmyex]

Im not sure i follow you here. Are you saying i should on all of it or just some? You know what works best. How would you do it for yourself?

[Pappy]

if it were mine, id do the frame and sub trans blue with the grab bar mod.

the swinger and arms would go stealth black.

[luvmyex]

what grab bar mod.? That is what i have settled on plus the oil tank and calipers in stealth black. I was asking what you would clear and what you wouldnt. I didnt really understad what you were saying in the other reply.

[Pappy]

if you wanted a solid black, or red etc, id clear it. along with veins (silvervein etc)

the grab bar mod, is where we retro fit your subframe so it will accept a removable grab bar.

[luvmyex]

so i should NOT clear the trans blue ot stealth correct? How much we talking total for the grap bar?

[Pappy]

full set of arms stripped and coated stealth black $ 65

swing arm stripped and coated stealth $60

frame and sub in trans blue $225

shorten subframe to accept grab bar, $35

[luvmyex]

thanks so much for all the help. Im going to have a friend gusset the frame up then i will be sending it to ya. Im guessing i would still need to get a grab bar?

[Pappy]

i try and stock PRM, Pro armor and AC so i can get you what ever youd like.

[luvmyex]

kool what does the Pro armour and the rpm look like? any pics?
Im probably going to do the frame 1st. I Have a extra one. Then around Jan. im going to tear it down and do the rest. Arms , swinger, oil tank ,and calipers.

[Pappy]

i will post some pics when im on my computer:p using the work computer right now:chinese:

[luvmyex]

aight
:D

[luvmyex]

The friend thats going to guesset the frame for me tell me that he would sandblast it too. Would that be any cheaper if i sent it already blasted? also do you have a chrome man? i want the upper a arms in chrome and need a idea of a price.

[Pappy]

if its clean enough when it arrives i am sure i could help on the cost being it would almost be ready to shoot.

[luvmyex]

you take paypal? if you do i may have it to ya by next week.

[wanta450]

what is the difference in stealth black and wrinkle black they seem to look the same

[Pappy]

Originally posted by luvmyex
you take paypal? if you do i may have it to ya by next week.

sure do

[Pappy]

Originally posted by wanta450
what is the difference in stealth black and wrinkle black they seem to look the same

this has less texture and more of a sheen

[luvmyex]

ever get the pics of the grab bars?

[Pappy]

the only pic i have is this one. im having trouble again with my comp. thats why im on the wifes. only some of my pics will load:confused:


http://www.exriders.com/vbb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1852093

[luvmyex]

well that ones out:devil: dont they have a baja one also? I like it better i think.

[Pappy]

oh yeah, prm, pro armor and ac all have tons of pics on thier sites etc. just ps them black:p

[luvmyex]

Pappy i should have my frame back this week sometime.I was told you know a good chrome shop. I want the upper arms in chrome. I would also like a close price of every thing im wanting. Chrome- upper arms
Stealth black- Lower arms, swingarm,oil tank,and all 3 calipers w/ rebuild
Trans blue- frame and sub (already sandblasted)
Sub frame mod with a rpm baja grab bar in stealth black

and i dont have a press for the bearings in the arms and swinger, what would you charge to take them out and put em back? They are pretty new.

[Pappy]

ill work up a price and pm ya.

im sure i could do the bearings for ya, it wont be much if anything.


as far as chrome work, i will do my best to get them done local, shouldnt be a problem, but i wont have a price till i drop them off

[luvmyex]

thanks you sir:bandit:

[luvmyex]

had a chance to add that all up?

[Pappy]

pc work, grab bar mod and caliper ***/diass your looking at $345

im geussing it will be around $45 to have the arms chromed

grab bar is around $43shipped

[luvmyex]

That works for me:cool: I found out today he hasnt even got started on my frame.Soon as i get it back it will be on the way to ya. It may come in a few things at a time. Im not ready to be without a quad yet! Is your address posted? im too lazy to look:D Thanks again for all the help. I think ive sent you some more business from atvnc.

[Pappy]

BK Performance
84 Chase Lane
Hedgesville WV
25427


i used to check out that site all the time but dont have time anymore:(

[luvmyex]

i understand.Youve been highly recomended again;)

[Pappy]

Originally posted by luvmyex
i understand.Youve been highly recomended again;)

i do appreciate it, my dad always told me word of mouth is advertising you just cant put a price on:p i just try and do my best, hopefully it all works out:D

[luvmyex]

Just wonedring if you can put the houser sticker back on the arms and swinger?

[Pappy]

Originally posted by luvmyex
Just wonedring if you can put the houser sticker back on the arms and swinger?

no, houser wont sell or send out the stickers

[luvmyex]

Damn commy bastages! well i just wont advertise for em them:devil:

[luvmyex]

pappy, i got my frame back today.I hope to get it shipped to ya by monday. He didnt do a great job blasting it, so if you need to again just let me know. I also picked up a pingrat oil tank, Can you do that as well, insted of the stock one?and my last ? i got a set of calipers off ebay so i could go ahead and get them done. When you rebuild em do you put a new kit in? or use the old stuff? They could use new. Thanks again for all you help. And ill get them to ya soon as i can.What will be comming now;
frame and sub
Oil tank
front, calipers
swingarm

The a arms, rear caliper,and maybe a couple other small parts will probably come in Jan. When i start tearing everything apart.

[Pappy]

i try and use the parts as they are, but if i see a seal damaged or anything that needs replacing i will order it.

[luvmyex]

sounds good. So i take it the pingray is no problem?

[Pappy]

shouldnt be, i do tanks all the time

[luvmyex]

I have the one with the holes is why i was asking

[Pappy]

as long as its a solid color i am pretty sure it will not be a problem.

[luvmyex]

Im going to pack up what i have now for ya tommrow. The frame i was going to ziptie togeather with the sub on top? do i need to wrap it up or just send it like that? Hop to get the rest in one box.

[Pappy]

place the sub frame inside the main frame and secure it. ups usually requires something, sometime a flat piece of cardboard around the frame works fine.

[luvmyex]

frame and box sent (honda box) you should have it on wed. i left a note inside with the colors for parts. i didnt mention the grab bar but i still want that. It wont interfear with the pipe any i would take it?

Man! be careful of ups stores, I took the frame and box to one at a shopping center.soon as i went back out to get the box they were all over the frame.bending a tape some it must have said 60" tall x100" long. He said $120 for the frame and $40 for the box :eek2: I said WHAT! your f'n crazy. it was only 35 from indy to here. He tried to say because of the size or they had a company account. He must have thought i was stupid! Went to the distrubution center it was $19 for the frame and $17 for the box.Somebody tried to take my arse!

[Pappy]

oh no doubt, this time of year especially the shipping companies ram it to whoever they can!

[luvmyex]

what kind of turn around time are we looking at? looks like your a lil busy. are you doing this full time now?

[Pappy]

your small parts arrived last night.

2 weeks is what i try for, i have 2 stripping companies doing work for me and im deffinatley keeping them busy:p parts that are already coated cause some of the slow down as they have to be worked on harder.

if all goies well ill have the small parts done in a few days, swing arm and frame in 2 weeks etc.

[Pappy]

and btw, your frame did arrive, ups set it in my truck:p i geuss ive got him trained..lol


and im still doing all this part time. not sure when my regular job will be complete, hopefully about the time i can afford to stay here and work:p

[Pappy]

ok, i did not read your list correctly and did the spindles in stealth. if this is a big problem i will have them stripped but i usually dont do trans spindles and it wasnt on the front of my mind:(

i did however molycoat the shafts seeing they had pit corrosion.

[Pappy]

in 2 weeks, i will be able to macth the shafts with the main color of the quad in most cases. (royal blue, black, red, silver)

the shaft usually doesnt need treatment, but the end where the threads is always rusts so i figured why not do something to prevent that and offer a little color to further detail the part

[luvmyex]

thats ok. have you done the calipers? if not change them to trans blue. Thanks for looking out for that too. Those calipers looked a lil stuck. And missing a cap on the piston. Any trouble with em?

[Pappy]

honestly, all tear downs and rebuilds are handled by my brother. i do them in a pinch but with so much other work to do i let him handle all that:p he hasnt told me to order parts yet so as far as i know they should be fine.

[luvmyex]

I like that kind of news:D how much trouble is the side cases? I ilke the look but dont want to even start to mess with the stator and all. I dont think the clutch side has much to it, does it?

[Pappy]

both are gravy. most people have a small amount of trouble with the starter gears but i managed to do mine with no help years ago so im sure you wont have any issues with as much info thats available now.

i even have a clutch cover gasket here if you need one, its collecting dust so i wont miss it

[luvmyex]

well the motor will be sent of for some work to it. P&P , cam ,piston and new clutch. If i were to take the covers off before i sent him the motor, would that give him any problems?

[Pappy]

it shouldnt present any problems unless they planned to try and fire it:p

[Pappy]

well, i have good news and bad news:ermm:

my brother called saturday so i slipped over to pick up and drop off parts. the good news is your caliper still doesnt require parts, the bad news is the one slider is locked up tighter then a virgins virtue at a nun convention:scary:

soaking overnight did nothing and he did not want to risk stripping the unit. they can not be coated with out disassembly, and we cant disassemble them without the risk of ruining the caliper. you can still run these, but if they ever need to be rebuilt your basically screwed unless some miracle of devine anti rust and corrosion allows another man with an allen head socket to remove the slider:p

[luvmyex]

:mad: Thats my luck. i picked em up on ebay so i could have em done before i tear down.Are you talking about the pin that holds the pads in? So i cant change the pads? or the piston thing? If they are too much trouble dont bother with em . ill just send the set thats on the quad still, when i tear down and do the arms and the rest of the parts.

[Pappy]

you can still replace the pads, its the back pin that allows the caliper to slide on the other caliper mount.

i figured it was safer to leave them as then to risk ruining them

[luvmyex]

go ahead with the other stuff and ill see if i cant get my money back for the calipers.:rolleyes: Like thats gonna happen.

[luvmyex]

no new pics:( ;)

[Pappy]

lol.. i actually have a pic of your oil tank but am having trouble with my computer that i usually use. i will do my best to get a pic up for you.

[luvmyex]

damit man.I need pics get a new puter .lol:D

[Pappy]

ok, here ya go

[luvmyex]

thank you sir:D once again you deliver.

[luvmyex]

i talked to the guy that i got the calipers from. He says he can get them apart:confused: he also says he know you well, and to send them back to him.So if you would ship them back to him i would be greatful. Just add it to my bill. i will pm you his address later when i have more time.home for lunch now.

[Pappy]

ill be looking for the pm.

if he can get them apart without ruining them then thats great, i for one cant see it happening but who knows...lol

[luvmyex]

that what i told him.i told him i the whole deal about sending em of to be pc'd and the guy said the slider was froze up blah blah blah. He replied with you gave me bad feedback cause some powdercoater said they were bad? Acting like the pc guy had no clue. I replied and told him who you are and he chilled out some then:devil:

[Pappy]

haha, well i would have gladly disassembled them but there is a point where if i go farther i could ruin a part and i dont feel like buying new calipers to replace a set i jacked up:p

[luvmyex]

i sent ya his name and all. do ya know him?

[Pappy]

it did not ring a bell, but it wouldnt be the first time i did not recognize a name:p

[luvmyex]

its like that when your famous:blah: j/k

anything else done?

[Pappy]

i dont think so, im doing frames tomarrow so i will hopefully have more back from the strippers also

[luvmyex]

do the trans colors look better on polished parts? or is there any differance?

[Pappy]

when shot on polished parts, or on billet they are flatter in appearence and lack some fo the depth when shot over a chrome basecoat.

if applied thin it can almsot look like anodizing

[luvmyex]

odd you would think it would be just the opposite.

[luvmyex]

i saw where you said it took awhile on the ceramic coating.How long did it actually take? and how about the time on chrome?

[Pappy]

the ceramic work gets subbed out to a local shop. he said it usually takes about 2 weeks depending on how much ceramic work he has to do. i geuss doing 1 pipe doesnt really pay for firing up everything needed to do it and being a large shop i can understand that ect.

if i were thinking of doing a 400ex pipe, id look into a powerbomb and see if they offer it coated.

chromers are worse then powdercoaters...lol everyone in this business works like mad, but time just isnt something we can stick too:p

[luvmyex]

i did pick up a powerbomb.but i dont really like how it looks. But the chrome was for my upper arms and redoing the tierods. Just tring to get a feel how long i will be without a ride:( soon as i get what you have back im tearing down my quad and sending the rest.I may go ahead and send the powerbomb so i wont be waiting on that.

[luvmyex]

have any new pics for me ol buddy ;) :D

[Pappy]

well, usually i have pics, tonight i have a swing arm i have to redo:p its my fault 100% and ill have her stripped down and recoated wednesday. ever have one of them weeks:p

[luvmyex]

I sure have. What happened? Also any news on the calipers? I havent heard from the guy.I know your busy as hell right now,but have any idae when this batch will be done and how much i owe for this? And finally, I cant decide if i want to polish my bumper back up or PC it. how much on a bumper? thanks man.

[Pappy]

oh man, was i supposed to ship those calipers to the seller?


one small spot of grease that was actually filling the hole the grease zerk goes in was missed during prep. that flowed out when the swing arm hit target temp and ruined the front of the swing arm(where your bearings go) its not bad, but it isnt leaving here like that:p i still have no idea how it was not cleared by the stripping process. im thinking the grease solidified and when exposed to heat melted. first time that has ever happened to me.


the strippers started back to work tuesday, so i am assuming by the end of the week i will be rolling again. i was supposed to go on a 3 day deer hunt but i may have to cut that down to 2 days :p

as far as a bumper, just polish that sucker. when she gets beat up then we will coat it. that runs like $20 so its no biggy.

[luvmyex]

yea i was wanting you to send them to him. did i pm you his addy?

Man that sucks on the swinger. I HATE to have to redo something.But thats why i chose you. I KNOW it will be RIGHT;)

The bumper is older. Its a baja to match the grap bar your putting on. I could shine it up again but damn that alot of upkeep.specially when im busting thu brush and trees all the time. Ice storms suck!

Any outlook on the frame?

[Pappy]

well if its already beat up and used, send it up.

your frames is in the batch at the strippers, so worse case by the begining of next week everything will be on its way back to you. if its warm and sunny there i may just ride along with it!


yes, you did pm his address, but i thought you were asking me if i knew him, i didnt make the connection:(

[luvmyex]

a lil cold up that way? lol It was almost 60 here today. but cloudy. i think its droppin to a freezing 48 this weekend BRRRR! lmao Its muddy as hell but im sure we could find ya somewhere to take a spin.

I probably will send it up with the next batch. And dont worry about the calipers.Its no biggie, that is unless mine a fubar too ;)

[Pappy]

frame is done, still waiting on sub frame mod, tuesday she will be completed and coated

[Pappy]

swinger is done, and is off to have bearings installed

[luvmyex]

looks freekin great! It makes me happy!:D pappy:D

ill be sending you my header monday.i think i will go ahead and get it coated.

[luvmyex]

well the pocket book wont allow the header to be done:( But the last of the parts i mentioned will be sent at the first of next week.
did ya get-r-done today?

[Pappy]

ok ill be lookin for 'em

they called this morning and said they hadnt done 2 subs and 1 frame, yours being one of those. i am going there tomorrow to shoot whats left so all should be good.

your frame should be to you tomarrow i think!

[luvmyex]

good deal. thanks once again for the great service!

[luvmyex]

so you already shipped the frame?

[Pappy]

yes sir, should be there tomorrow

[luvmyex]

aight ill be lookin fer it

[Pappy]

Originally posted by luvmyex
aight ill be lookin fer it

dhl shows it delivered?

[luvmyex]

i havent seen anything:confused: never mind i just found it in the living room :huh :rolleyes:

[Pappy]

lol...you must have a big living room:eek2:

[luvmyex]

looks fantastic! no its closed off and somebody forgot to tell me about it:blah:

[luvmyex]

did the sub get done?

[Pappy]

sub was completed wednesday, but i flat ran out of time and had to hustle home to get the kids off the bus(was 20 mins late as it was:( )

i plan on shooting frames saturday and will finish it up then.

you wanted that trans blue also correct?

[luvmyex]

thats no problem at all. and yes trans blue on it also. with the rpm baja grab bar.

[Pappy]

ok cool

yep, everything else is packaged, i just have to grab up those calipers and then the rest goes out.

swinger was reassembled(bearings) and looks great.

[luvmyex]

whoo hoo !!!!!! getting excited to see what its all gonna look like togeather.Even though that probablly 2-3 more weeks :ermm: One last ride this weekend and i tear it apart.

[Pappy]

did you basically buy up parts and have them coated ?

ive done that, works well for down time:p

[luvmyex]

already had the swingarm but the rest i did that with. i have a room full of things ive bought over the last couple months for this.finally getting down to the nitty gritty:D

[Pappy]

i had thought at one time about grabbing some parts to keep here stripped and ready to go. when someone sent in say a subframe for modifactation it would just need coating as long as the sneders sub was in good shape for an exchange. the bad part is that most parts arent in the same condition so it didnt seem prudent:ermm:

[luvmyex]

yea some would be getting a great deal and others would loose out probably. But you still seem to be doing pretty good for a part time deal.

[Pappy]

im not doing bad, but only with small parts. with having to sub out the stripping for frames it gets costly and i dont like charging a whole lot etc.

i thought i had it all taken care of for this year, but business kind of blew last years numbers out fo the water and i wasnt expecting that:p

oh well, growing pains may hurt but they mean your growing:D

[luvmyex]

you know the saying no pain no gain.:devil: If i had some place to do it i would love to give it a try. Or something to do with quads anyway.

[luvmyex]

am i all done now?

[Pappy]

lol..well...

i had 2 subs almost done in chrome when the gun quit. i shut down the oven and called it a day. monday i will be back in action with a spare gun and get you finished up.

wasnt a wasted trip, and i geuss it could have been worse:p

[luvmyex]

:( ok im real courious to see how it looks so post a pic when you get-r-done plz. so how does the chrome look? would it look ok on the tie rods?

[Pappy]

oh it will be fine.

i was actually shooting an upper arm when the gun quit. i usually dont take a spare, because they hardly ever have problems. (reminder to self, few more weeks and these issues wont be an issue:p )

the grab bar mod looks fine, and she should be heading your way on tuesday.

chrome is more like a really bright silver. thats what i use as a base for the trans colors.

[luvmyex]

yea its all good. i had to rag just a lil on ya:D I hope to get part of it torn down tommrow night.And maybe send it to ya on tues. Ill let ya know when its sent. So do ya think the chrome would look ok on the tie rods? or black? the arms beeing transblue and black.I need to do something with em, the chrome is flaking off pretty bad. BTW how about those panthers?!what a game

[Pappy]

if they have flaking chrome, id say stealth black to help hide it

i didnt get to watch any football today, all work:p

[luvmyex]

ok thanks. that sucks having to work all day sunday. But i appreciate it! guess that why you have the big bucks though.:D you sure earn it.

[Pappy]

lol...after trashing someones oil tank, today was a break even day:D oh well, a new tank will take its place:p

[luvmyex]

oh no that dont sound too good. what happened?

[Pappy]

i was holding it in my hands, and my kid made a muscle man move, so i took the tank and squezed it, crushing one end:ermm: fluke i reckon, i know i aint that strong:p

[luvmyex]

no!:eek2: you need to talk to the wife. has it been awhile? lol:D

[luvmyex]

started the teardown tonight. got everything that im sending ya off but the calipers. I should have it all off tommrow and shipped to ya by thur at the latest.I have to run the motor down to the guy wed night hopefully. Can you do the front master cylinder? I was thinking about adding that and the throttle housing. probably black with the blue tops. I could polish the tops back up if that is better than the chrome base you put on. I didnt really understand before if polished was a better base or not.

[Pappy]

polished throttle top would be great if you can.

no on the front master cylinder, the eye will melt

everything else cept the sub/rear grab bar should be at your place any day, so re assembly can begin!

[Pappy]

wahlah

[luvmyex]

SWEET!!! i see what yhe mod is now. I wasnt real sure what you did.i was thinking you cut the sub and welded the bar on. but i see you made the threaded holes:D Everything looks great.I took a good look at the frame and WOW. I can surely see a major differance in the last job i had done local. It looks so wet.and just a couple tiny spots.I guess where it spits??? like a lil weld trash?? if ya know what im trying to say.The local guy had them spots all over it. hundreds of em. I could probly count em all on one hand on the entire frame on your work. Dont get me wrong im not *****in at all. I think thats a fantastic job!I dont think i could get any better. I had a friend come up tonight and saw it and he was in awe over it. And thats what i was looking for.
I did get every thing off tonight. Its all boxed up and ready to ship tommrow night. I forgot to put a note inside though:ermm:
All in 1 box
bumper- stealth black
tie rods- stealth
throttle body -stealth
a-arms lower-stealth
a-arms upper- trans blue
throttle top- trans blue
master cylinder cover- trans
all 3 calipers- trans
hopefully you will have em by fri thanks agains for everything and the super fine quality!

[Pappy]

yeah with a stock frame and its welding splatter there is not much you can do to help the "pits" (thats what i call them) the chrome coat covers them fine, but when the trans color flows out it will not always hide the marks. some frames, especially the 450R are terrible. i dont know what honda changed but you could spend hours trying to remove it all. i usually hit all the areas i know will be a concern, however sometimes they are not apparent until after the coating is fully cured.

now, when a frame is sent in for gusset work, it will be fully gusseted before being completely stripped so none of the new splatter will be an issue, but the factory stuff is something we have to deal with.

ill be working all weekend so hopefully alot of your small parts will be ready early next week.

[luvmyex]

sounds good pappy. i got what you sent back today.that black looks better than i thought it would. I also got the rest sent at lunch today, so you should have em fri. Now to get up with boone and get the motor taken care of.

I know you have rpm and pro armour. can you get pro tect skid plates too? Looking for one on the swingarm

[Pappy]

yep i can get one. you want the thick one correct? i dont do much with pro tect but i thought they had 2 thicknesses like everyoine else?

[luvmyex]

pro-tect is stainless steel. ive never seen one but i think they are kinda thin?? i dont know if they have different types even. but i was thinking it would give me a lil more clearance than the pro armour that i have. and be stronger than any alum. one. let me know what you find and how much. hell while your at it check on a belly skid plate too. Its only money:rolleyes:

[Pappy]

I did not have a chance to call at all today:( i got my new gun in and spent 2 hours trying to set it up..lol

I am working fom home tomorrow so ill make the calls and see what i can find out for ya.

[luvmyex]

any word yet?

[Pappy]

nope, i left a message but havent recieved any return calls:(

[luvmyex]

are they still in business? i havent heard anything about them for awhile

[Pappy]

i have no clue, i have a call into my supplier but being friday its not uncommon for them not to call back timely:p

[luvmyex]

i understand ;) can you molycoat the pins in the calipers? And i cant find the 2 dipsticks for the oilpan. you dont happen to still have em do ya?I cant remember if they were in when i sent them to ya or not:ermm:

[Pappy]

i will check, if i do then they are yours because i know i dont have any:p

yes the sliders can be coated

[luvmyex]

found the dipsticks so nevermind:p i think im gonna like this. damnit my pics are still too big:mad:

[Pappy]

hahaha 600 x 400 pixels


i dug into your other box tonight, im hoping by mid week to have you all done

[luvmyex]

lets try this again

[luvmyex]

:D but i recon you seen a hundred of these:rolleyes:

[Pappy]

ahhhh, time to get here retro fitted!

looks good.

[luvmyex]

lol i want to get started can ya tell:D

[luvmyex]

btw, just trash the ball joints on the lower arms. i ment to take them out before i boxed em up,:ermm:

[Pappy]

no prob, i dropped them and the calipers off today for disassembly

prm bumper is now black

[luvmyex]

sweet!

[Pappy]

tie rods

[luvmyex]

what no a-arms :devil: hehehe

[Pappy]

arms should be finished mid week along with the calipers/mounts

[luvmyex]

all that polishing looks nice lmao the body moly too? looks stealth

[Pappy]

yeah the pic kind of makes it look different then it is.

we have been running a throttle all year and it shows ZERO signs of wear. when i saw yours had a polished top, i just had to see if it will hold up as well without the media blasting. i get alot of handguns in here for this coating and i loose sleep over having to strip them. if your top and the mastercylinder top hold up and weather well, then i can make a few changes when i coat handgun frames and rifle actions.

[Pappy]

and btw, thats the same coating glock uses:devil:

[luvmyex]

oh ic now.i was wondering why ya did that when ya said the bottom is ok. glock dont use blueing? i just learned something.

[Pappy]

nope, glock uses this same coating. we have been having a ball with handguns, even doing gold triggers and hammers:p when quad stuf slows down we start taking in firearm work, which usually works out good because im usually so sick of seeing atv parts i need a break and a new challenge come may:D


I have about 30 firearms to do as soon as i get a chance. ive already started using this coating on certain atv and car parts where it will benefit the part. your spindle shaft is coated in this same coating. wipe it with oil before you install the hub and she will not rust or corrode.

[Pappy]

45 all done right here.

[luvmyex]

looks nice! is the gold a moly too?

[Pappy]

yep

that 45 was the first one we did. my good friend has tinkered with them for some time and once he got it reassembled and saw that it worked a lightbulb went off in my head:p

so, with his interest in fixing and working on firearms, and my coating business, i thought it would be cool if he became a liscensed gunsmith, which i promptly paid for. now he is almsot done getting his FFL and soon we will be able to have firearms from all over the country shipped in , disassembled, refinished and reassembled :D (cant ship to someone without a FFL, and cant ship back to anyone who doesnt have an FFL)

sooooo....

when all is said and done, word will spread about this service and business will grow. and to add to that, i just got hooked up with the largest shooting club in florida and have sent down samples. they are awaiting my ok to start sending work in!

[luvmyex]

sounds like you may be going full time pc here soon. Thats great man.i had a few guns get water damaged a couple years back.from a leaking ac unit. I had to have my browning 30-06 reblued:mad: along with a couple others. Wish that would have been available then:( will you be doing satin finish and others too?

Oh yea any word on the skids?

[Pappy]

skids are a no go with pro tect...no explaination was given:scary:


yeah getting things blued around this area is hard, the chemicals are so toxic that noone wants to do it. good for me:p

[luvmyex]

do you know of any other stainless steel skids? or one that still has good ground clearance? if not then go ahead and get a pro armour or rpm which ever is the better deal for the 2 thanks

[Pappy]

its your call, prm or pro armor are pretty close. i can get both in short order.

[luvmyex]

im all about price now.which ever is cheaper. if they are the same pro armour.

[luvmyex]

i took my front hubs apart last night and saw my bearings need replacing. do ya carry the pivot works kits? i need the kit if ya do.

[Pappy]

i probably have a kit here, if not i can order one in.

[luvmyex]

ok give me a total on the damage for it all when ya can:eek:

[luvmyex]

are we there yet :p lol:D

[Pappy]

skids are ordered, i havent looked at my price sheet, but ill hook ya up

calipers should be finished this weekend and KABLAMMM you gonna be done son:D

[luvmyex]

whooo hooo! thanks for everything man!

[luvmyex]

no pics for me?:( :p

[Pappy]

i need to call and see where your calipers are, i had him busy with the installation fo the new equipment and forgot to ask him yesterday. no worries, your almost done.


i need a no pics for you picture:D

[luvmyex]

i didnt tell ya to, but i hope you saved and reinstalled the a-arm bearing and all???

[Pappy]

everything thats comes out is reinstalled or we inform you if it needs replacing etc.

[luvmyex]

you da man!

[Pappy]

Originally posted by luvmyex
you da man!

i dunno about that:p i feel a bit strung out this week, its been a bit busy:p

[luvmyex]

i can belive that. i bet most are for ya

[luvmyex]

have ya got a total for me ?

[Pappy]

i think all you owe me is return shipping on these few parts here, and for the skids. i aint gonna charge you for the bumper and throttle etc.

as soon as the skids arrive and i can get a total i will pm ya....it wont hurt i promise:p

[Pappy]

I had almost forgot about your arms..lol my brother came over with them last night, cussing like a sailor about the ball joints that did not want to come out:p

[luvmyex]

sweet!looks even better than i thought it would. lol i had the same trouble, thats why they were still in there:devil: are ya putting all the bearings back in? i know i was missing a greese zerk to. Can ya replace that or should i pick one up? And i guess the skids havent got there yet:confused:

[Pappy]

yeah ill throw all the bearings back in and tap the threads for the ball joints.

everything should be leaving on monday. i was hoping the skids would come today, usually friday i get loads fo stuff in so i have no weekend:scary:

[luvmyex]

great! maybe ill be riding MY quad next weekend. I ve been lucky had a couple freinds that have had a loaner for me the last two weekends. Thanks again for all youve done.

[Pappy]

haha i wish we could ride year round, most years its just plain nasty out in the winter.

[luvmyex]

hey ANY TIME you need a winter ride just come on down. It was 70 today:devil: supposed to rain tonight and make it a mess tommrow though:ermm: Ill take ya out to about 12-14 miles of some sweet powerlines. alot of people dont ever get to see it. this is the first hill ya come to.:eek2:

[Pappy]

soon i promise!

as soon as it gets nasty here i get busy at my real job:ermm:

[luvmyex]

what is that anyway?

[Pappy]

i manage a battery company, been there 16 years this year

[luvmyex]

duh! i remember that now that you say it.:bandit: thats a long time to be anywhere theses days.

[luvmyex]

well... i think i m going to try 1 more time lol K Fulk has a set of front calipers.he is taking them apart to make sure! then he'll send em to ya.

[luvmyex]

hey pappy, dont forget about the bearing kit and seat ;)

[luvmyex]

looks like kfulk got em all apart. he will be sending them to ya asap:D trans blue plz

[Pappy]

im on it!

[Pappy]

skids are in!

[Pappy]

and what year 400ex are these front hubs from so i can make sure i send you the right set

[luvmyex]

pm'd ya:cool: i just saw a recent dirt wheels for the 1st time in forever. Are the skids the new style? i didnt even know they had changed:huh

[Pappy]

honestly i opened the box and got out some yamaha stuff for a local chump and never opened your skid. its the latest and greatest i suppose:p

[Pappy]

finally a set of hubs i could shoot for ya:p

[K_Fulk]

Those look 100x better then they did the other day, amazing what a little bit of powder can do. :cool:

[luvmyex]

hubs?i have never seen a set that looked like that. lol i guess the 3rd time is a charm. :D thats great i really didnt want to put plain ones on there with all the other goodies. any luck on the bearings? i could just get em local if that would be easier on you. btw thanks you 2!

[Pappy]

calipers:p wow i am tired:D

bearings should be here any day, and the rest of your stuff will be reassembled and shipped asap so you dont have to borrow and thrash your buddies quad:devil:

[luvmyex]

werd! but it still looks like im going to have to trash his one more time :ermm: but atleast hes kool enuff to let me:devil: let me know what i owe on the rest.

[luvmyex]

i got the skids today. i guess the prm was the lower cost huh. really didnt know what i would get:p I really like the belly skid. i want to start on this thing so freekin bad.

[Pappy]

thats the only skid they list for the 400ex, but it isnt the thin .125 unit.

your arms are back and ready to ship, calipers should be reassembled tomorrow so by midweek you will have everything back =, maybe even the bearings will show up

[luvmyex]

killer!!:D no its not thin at all. I really like all the mounts for the belly skid MUCH better than the old style ac one i had. But i think i like the pro armour swing arm skid more. Not sure till i put it on and see the clearance though. the prm may be better for that. and it is thicker. Im happy either way.

[luvmyex]

bolted the belly skid up today. I really like the way it fits and the mounts are one it. very good stuff! how is purple power on the pc? i want to keep the grime off the engine when i get it back and running, and purple power works pretty good on the things i have cleaned up. I just dont want to mess up that killer pc job. you told me before that some pc will mess up with some cleaners.

[Pappy]

simple green only, or pro prep etc

purple power is ok for stock crap that doesnt matter what you throw on it but it needs to be not used on anything powdercoated, painted or polished/chromed

[brif]

Is that simple green diluted or just how it comes in the spray bottle? By the way the frame looks great. :D

[Pappy]

i buy it by the gallon at lowes or home depot when they have it on sale (they also will sponsor you so dont be shy about sending in a resume!!!!!!!) we use it full strength, its water activated so wash most of the heavy dirt off then while she is wet spay her down good. after a few minutes give her a quick flash of water and let her soak. once you are ready rinse her off and repeat. i never touch my quads with a powerwasher or sponge it down, maybe a sponge once every 3 rides or so!

and im stoked to hear the frame is too your liking..it looked pretty damn badazz when it left here:devil:

[luvmyex]

kool im glad i asked.

[Pappy]

i should get simple green free for as much as i promote them:huh

[luvmyex]

does that mean my the next time i rebiuld and have you pc for me its free? :devil: ive damn sure been braggin on ya!

[luvmyex]

:huh my swingarm bearing sleve wouldnt even go in it:huh will the pivot works not fit in houser? i tried and it wouldnt even start. there are still 2 in the right side should there be 3 or 4 in it?

[Pappy]

there should be 2 in each side.

honestly with houser, i have no idea seeing how often he decides to change things:grr:

[Pappy]

hey rick,

did you send a full set of calipers up here with a faded red legacy atv block off?

[luvmyex]

i sure did. tell me i got the wrong ones back.:( i got the seat today thanks.

[Pappy]

ok, i made my brother come ID these suckas and these are the first set you sent that can not be disassembled, BUT, you can install new pads and use them. i will track down a set and do them up and send them down etc, but for now atleast you will have something to keep you from going over a cliff:p

[luvmyex]

thats great! send em on down and ill be riding that S.O.B this weekend.she came to life tonight. i think im jetted too rich though. know anything about a fcr? i started at 165 main and 50 pilot. 2 turns out on the air screw in the intake and 2 1/2 ont the one on bottom. lid on the airbox. motor is 416 full port &polish original hotcam 2. seemed ok the 1st time i started it. 2nd time i let it run a lil longer and started to bust out a little when reved. I was only going 1/8 - 1/4 throttle in revs.

[Pappy]

LMAO! you arent excited are ya:p

i have no idea on the fcr with your set up....but i will get these suckas out to ya

[luvmyex]

ya damn skippy i am!:D :cool: that seat must be pretty new. its feel alot taller and harder. i guess it not shaped to my arse like the other one was:blah: just a few more adjustments and ill be right. ill send ya a pic when its complete. Im very pleased the way it turned out!

[luvmyex]

GOT R DONE:D :cool: :D thanks for all the help. and let me know when ya find a set of calipers. Got to try it out a lil today.its sputtering when i 1st give it gas.like up to 1/4 throttle.Is that the clip maybe?if so should i move the clip up or down? as promised a couple pics

[luvmyex]

:cool:

[luvmyex]

:D

[Pappy]

looks awesome

sounds like maybe the air screw needs a tweak

[luvmyex]

thanks i tried moving it out and in but only 1/2 turn any sugestions on which way or how much?

[Pappy]

here ya go, this may offer more help then i could type

http://www.atvriders.com/articles/jetting.html