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trx450Rrider
11-02-2005, 07:12 PM
well he has a 440ex with slip on pipe and stock carb with lid off and some nice MOOSE jets . hes telling me his bikes an animal and he will race me for money and hes so positive its going to beat me. what do you guys think and please reply kinda fast so i can show him how hes wrong.

WTbAckEr32: dude mines an all around better bike than a 450
TRx450r RiDeR: hahaha
WTbAckEr32: its better at hill climbs
WTbAckEr32: me and my uncle compared everything
TRx450r RiDeR: o my god thats the funniest thing ive ever heard
TRx450r RiDeR: ok
WTbAckEr32: wanna ask the 7 people that were with us?
TRx450r RiDeR: ur uncle sucks at riding
TRx450r RiDeR: haha
TRx450r RiDeR: why cus a better rider is on the 440
WTbAckEr32: lol it still dont matter
WTbAckEr32: my brother rode the 450 and said the same thing
TRx450r RiDeR: ok
TRx450r RiDeR: he sucks too
TRx450r RiDeR: 400exs have no travel
WTbAckEr32: wanna call him and race him?
TRx450r RiDeR: bad handling
TRx450r RiDeR: yes
WTbAckEr32: UR A SPED
bpimpdaddy21
11-03-2005, 05:17 AM
Honest opinion here, but this is going from 400EX to 450R, I think you will smoke that 440EX, unless he has a serious high comp piston and serious port work done. THEN, it might be somewhat of a race, but the 450R will still take him I think. Like its always said, "There is no replacement for displacement!" Go for it Ronnie!
MAD450r
11-03-2005, 05:41 AM
When I mess around in the woods I can get faster times on my 416ex. I have more seat time and have ridden those trails more on my 416. Now if we take ti to the field, my 416 has no chance in hell to even hang with the 450r.


I know my 416 isn't near as built motorwise as a 440, but it hangs with the one we ride with anyday of the week.

It is harder to build a good running and reliable 440, where anyone can make a 416 that run's ok.

Just my .02$
duncan440ex
11-03-2005, 08:00 AM
i have a duncan 440 and it can't even hold it's own with 450. hands down 450 will destroy it.
trx450Rrider
11-03-2005, 12:29 PM
ok thanks guys maybe your opinions will shut the kid up
racerx4u2y2k
11-03-2005, 08:25 PM
Well friend I have a 416 with stage two cam and good port work and all the trick stuff and I have a 450r with a pipe and jetting and filter and the 450 in a drag race will smoke the 416 but in the woods the 416 is more controlable but if you ride a 450r any period time you won"t get back on a 400 believe me when I tell you that cause my 416 just sits now. Good luck with your race I am sure you got the edge.
ATC350X 85
11-05-2005, 04:08 PM
As far as hill climbs go, i do some pretty nasty ones on my stock 450R and I know a guy that wont touch them on a 440. The 450R revs all the way to the top as to were a 440 will bog down.
trx400exxracer
11-05-2005, 04:49 PM
unless it has a real High comp. piston, st. 2 or 3 cam, port and polish work and more

You will probably beat him if it is juast a regular 440
JRDrider22
11-05-2005, 05:16 PM
i can tell you the most because i went from a 440 to a 450. its a huge difference. the 450 will win. no if and or buts about it.
tractorpacker
11-05-2005, 05:46 PM
I have a 440 and a 450r.

When the 450 was new(stock) it would beat my ex. I then rebored, same size, new cylinder, the 440. It would then beat my 450r, in the sand dunes. That was with 2 different riders, switching back and forth.

I now have an 11.5:1 Wiseco, FMF slip-on, and an ESR airbox eliminatorkit in the 450. The 450 is back in the lead. My opinion is that a well built 440, can beat a close to stock 450r.