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derekhonda
11-02-2005, 02:57 AM
ATTENTION ALL BUYERS:

Due to the abundance of mail fraud, I urge all of you to gather as much information about a seller before sending payment on an item. Information such as:
• Company Name
• Person’s Name and Title
• Address
• City
• County
• State
• ZIP Code
• Country
• Home Phone No. (Include Area Code)
• Cell Phone No. (Include Area Code)
• Work Phone No. (Include Area Code) &
• E-Mail
should all be readily available upon request. If they are hesitant to offer any information I urge you all to NOT BUY no matter how good of a deal they are offering. Also, if you have any doubt in them telling the truth, I advise you to “test” their information. A call to the person’s place of work on their work phone # and a simple “May I talk with ‘Joe Smith’ ” will ensure they provided accurate information. Also, if they are under the age of 18, I recommend speaking to their parents about the deal at hand. This is not meant to disrespect honorable teenagers, but the problem seems to be isolated to those 18 and under.

ALSO, if this is not obvious to anyone else, keep track of your records. DO NOT pay for items to be shipped in cash. Get a certified check from the bank or a money order from the post office. KEEP ALL RECIEPTS AND CHECK STUBS. If the shipper is willing, have them ship your package COD (cash on deliver). Also, keep any e-mails or private messages could aid you in receiving reimbursement.

For anyone thinking of ripping off members of ATVRIDERS.com, I am attaching an online form to make the reporting of “Mail Fraud” easier. Mail Fraud is the FELONY that you are committing when you take payment for an item you do not send out.

REPORT MAIL FRAUD HERE:
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:tMvBNiP9WHwJ:https://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/ps8165.pdf++site:www.usps.com

Hopefully with everyone’s help, we can make this classified section one where everyone feels safe buying and selling four wheeler parts and other miscellaneous items. If you are contemplating committing mail fraud, I suggest you Google the consequences of committing such a crime.

panteramatt
11-02-2005, 04:14 AM
VERY good info boss.

11-02-2005, 06:50 AM
look anyone that can pay with a credit card thru paypal...do it. that way if you don't get your stuff let paypal take care of it...if they don't then your credit card company definitely will.....fraud is getting way out of hand, and once again the actions off a few make people questioned the actions of everyone, even "us" honorable sellers and buyers.....

Tom TRX250R
11-02-2005, 08:02 PM
A moderator needs to sticky this in both selling and wanted sections. Good post!!!;)

JDiablo
11-02-2005, 08:16 PM
Yup this is in the trader feedback,i think this should be sticked in the classifieds.

300WheelyKing
11-15-2005, 09:06 PM
Renagadecoupe screwed me! I sent him 90 bucks 6weeks ago. He sent me nothing. He said he sent the aarms, then said he sent the money back to me. ****in theif! Call him if you want his # is 706 581 4210. His address is 108 Santa Fe Trail
Dalton, GA 30721
His name is Phillip

Maybe if you call him he will payup.
Thanks Travis Austin

derekhonda
11-16-2005, 12:40 PM
If you got all his information go get him bud. I can't take responsibility to get everyones money back but atleast now you know how to go about filing charges. It takes time but does work. Good luck.

derekhonda
12-06-2005, 02:52 PM
Here is an even easier form:

https://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/fraud/MailFraudComplaint.htm

atvracer980
01-22-2006, 01:27 PM
also you can file a complaint here: www.ifccfbi.gov- it also covers internet fraud

YFZRB
08-27-2006, 07:17 PM
Derek,

Thanks for the info.

400exwheelieboy
08-16-2007, 08:13 PM
hey mods if i wanted to sell a pda(cell phone) where cld i sell it on here?

46upchuck
02-13-2008, 07:20 PM
i just wanted to post that all the selling and trading i have done online has been done with escrow.com it is a little bit more but that way the person you are buying from does not get paid until you get your stuff. just an idea

bundy
06-28-2009, 05:33 AM
through my bank anyways thats not the case, told becasue of the way paypal does their tranactions can only dispute it through paypal and in some cases are less than helpful
Originally posted by lerch
look anyone that can pay with a credit card thru paypal...do it. that way if you don't get your stuff let paypal take care of it...if they don't then your credit card company definitely will.....fraud is getting way out of hand, and once again the actions off a few make people questioned the actions of everyone, even "us" honorable sellers and buyers.....

brysn424
03-12-2012, 06:28 PM
I sent $650 to a certain individual. I didn't meet him through the forum. But since then I have seen him on here. The $650 covered a variety of parts. This was on feb 19 2012. And today is march12 2012. I haven't seen any parts yet. His wife has started answering his texts. Says he was in a bad car wreck. But she's telling me that the parts have been shipped. I've bought 2 sets of fox shox from him within the last 2 months. Got them both times. Just took about 2 weeks to get them. I sent payment for this last order via PayPal. As well as the other two orders. My question is will this link you guys have posted help me out if he don't send my parts? I want to trust him. But it's not looking good at the moment. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Not going to say any names as they told me they would call me in the morning. I just wanted to get prepared.