Check this out muscle car guys

[QUADMASTER]

Which car would you prefer over these?

[Quad18star]

91 Iroc for me

[chazekxt]

for me

[Butters]

either of the mustangs would be good, but the cobra would be your best bet. it would give you a good place to start and there are tons of parts for them.

[AtvMxRider]

Where are the muscle cars:confused:

[Mxjunkie]

Iroc..

the cars you posted are more or less new gen sport cars in a way.

Nothing like the old TRUE muscle cars :devil:

[zeppelin]

ill get back to you when you actualy put some real muscle cars in the poll

[Butters]

Originally posted by zeppelin
ill get back to you when you actualy put some real muscle cars in the poll

they may not be "real" muscle cars in your mind, but stock for stock they have more punch then the older "muscle" cars. don't get me wrong the older cars are better looking and way cool, but for speed and horsepower its easier to get it out of a newer "sports" car for less money.

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by Butters
they may not be "real" muscle cars in your mind, but stock for stock they have more punch then the older "muscle" cars. don't get me wrong the older cars are better looking and way cool, but for speed and horsepower its easier to get it out of a newer "sports" car for less money.

You're joking right?? Please tell me you're joking !!!!!

I would take this, Even tho i can drive it like any time i want to.:devil:

[Matt37]

Originally posted by Butters
they may not be "real" muscle cars in your mind, but stock for stock they have more punch then the older "muscle" cars. don't get me wrong the older cars are better looking and way cool, but for speed and horsepower its easier to get it out of a newer "sports" car for less money.

your an idiot... I am not even going to bother going any further.

[AtvMxRider]

Originally posted by Butters
they may not be "real" muscle cars in your mind, but stock for stock they have more punch then the older "muscle" cars. don't get me wrong the older cars are better looking and way cool, but for speed and horsepower its easier to get it out of a newer "sports" car for less money.

[clutt225]

Originally posted by Butters
they may not be "real" muscle cars in your mind, but stock for stock they have more punch then the older "muscle" cars. don't get me wrong the older cars are better looking and way cool, but for speed and horsepower its easier to get it out of a newer "sports" car for less money.


You may want to stick to a moped because you don't now jack about muscle cars.

[AtvMxRider]

Originally posted by clutt225
You may want to stick to a moped because you don't now jack about muscle cars.


Exactly, I believe the last true muscle cars were before 1972, I would not call a 90's era mustand or camaro a muscle car at all.

[Matt37]

Originally posted by AtvMxRider
Exactly, I believe the last true muscle cars were before 1972, I would not call a 90's era mustand or camaro a muscle car at all.

Yup, the muscle car era ended a long time ago.

[Mxjunkie]

Originally posted by Butters
they may not be "real" muscle cars in your mind, but stock for stock they have more punch then the older "muscle" cars. don't get me wrong the older cars are better looking and way cool, but for speed and horsepower its easier to get it out of a newer "sports" car for less money.

This sr, is a muscle car.... This car vs a newer gen would cost less and make more horsepower.

http://www.draglist.com/photoimages/POD-0301/Jim%20Wiens%20Outrageous%20Pro%20Street%20Camaro.% 20Photo%20thanks%20to%20Jim%20Wiens.jpg

[Rdhanded2]

There is no 91 Iroc. They didn't make them anymore in 91.

[muddy400EX]

Originally posted by Butters
they may not be "real" muscle cars in your mind, but stock for stock they have more punch then the older "muscle" cars. don't get me wrong the older cars are better looking and way cool, but for speed and horsepower its easier to get it out of a newer "sports" car for less money.


oh really??

[bigvforcer]

1969 RS/SS Camaro with the optional 396 or a 1967 Chevelle with the optional 396 in candy apple red(or fire engine red)


Either of those cars would smoke every car you have up there any day of the week!

[Butters]

Originally posted by Quad18star
You're joking right?? Please tell me you're joking !!!!!


no i'm not joking.

[Butters]

Originally posted by Matt37
your an idiot... I am not even going to bother going any further.


your an idiot who has no point.

[Butters]

Originally posted by AtvMxRider


right on if you like ricers.

[Butters]

Originally posted by clutt225
You may want to stick to a moped because you don't now jack about muscle cars.


yeah your right i'll stick with my 04 mustang gt :rolleyes:
i never said any of those cars were muscle i said more potential.

[MOFO]

Originally posted by Butters
yeah your right i'll stick with my 04 mustang gt :rolleyes:
i never said any of those cars were muscle i said more potential.



...and your point is? What does your Mustang have anything to do with you knowing about Muscle cars?

[CHAR250R]

Originally posted by AtvMxRider
Where are the muscle cars:confused:


What he said.

[QUADMASTER]

I dunno what yall are talking about.Those cars are muscle cars.What else are they considered as?It's true that the older camaro's were a bit more mean looking and stuff,but the newer camaro's and other muscle cars are faster than the old ones.Take the 2006 GTO for example.It's the most powerful GTO ever.400Hp.Come on.There's no older GTO with that much power in stock form.The newer camaro's have LS1's in them anywayz,and that's much faster and much more powerful than the old ones.

[QUADMASTER]

Also let me correct myself by saying that i was wrong about the 91 Iroc-Z.Let's say 89 Iroc-Z

[F-16Guy]

Muscle car:
1970 Chevelle SS 454 LS-6
450HP, 500lb.ft. torque

Not a muscle car:
1990 IROC-Z (they didn't make one in 1991)
235HP, 330lb.ft. torque

[Butters]

Originally posted by MOFO
...and your point is? What does your Mustang have anything to do with you knowing about Muscle cars?


whats your point. i never said i knew anything about muscle cars. he told me to stick with my moped, and my reply was that i would stick with my mustang.

[Matt37]

Originally posted by Butters
whats your point. i never said i knew anything about muscle cars. he told me to stick with my moped, and my reply was that i would stick with my mustang.

I dunno the moped might be faster.

regular GT's are dawgs.

[Matt37]

Originally posted by Butters
yeah your right i'll stick with my 04 mustang gt :rolleyes:
i never said any of those cars were muscle i said more potential.

But your wrong, those cars do not have as much potential as the older muscle cars.

So whats your point????

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by QUADMASTER
I dunno what yall are talking about.Those cars are muscle cars.What else are they considered as?It's true that the older camaro's were a bit more mean looking and stuff,but the newer camaro's and other muscle cars are faster than the old ones.Take the 2006 GTO for example.It's the most powerful GTO ever.400Hp.Come on.There's no older GTO with that much power in stock form.The newer camaro's have LS1's in them anywayz,and that's much faster and much more powerful than the old ones.

I don't know if you know this or not , but many of the old muscle cars from the 60's and early 70's were under-rated in horsepower ratings by the manufacturer for insurance purposes . A lot of the cars that had HP ratings of 325 HP were pushing well over 400 HP .

To me if you need a computer geek to diagnose whats wrong with your car , it ain't a true muscle car !!!

[duke416ex]

Many modern cars are underrated also. You also don't need to be a computer geek, just the ability to go to autozone and buy a scanner to read your codes.

Here are real muscle cars:

Blue convertible is my '71 Dodge Challenger with a 440-6Pak and the Cuda is my all original '70 with also a 440-6Pak.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/briansgi/challenger.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/briansgi/cuda.jpg

[Matt37]

Originally posted by Kyle_TQRA
Here are real muscle cars:

Blue convertible is my '71 Dodge Challenger with a 440-6Pak and the Cuda is my all original '70 with also a 440-6Pak.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/briansgi/challenger.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/briansgi/cuda.jpg

Nice, not a big mopar fan.

but they look beautiful

[AtvMxRider]

Originally posted by QUADMASTER
I dunno what yall are talking about.Those cars are muscle cars.What else are they considered as?It's true that the older camaro's were a bit more mean looking and stuff,but the newer camaro's and other muscle cars are faster than the old ones.Take the 2006 GTO for example.It's the most powerful GTO ever.400Hp.Come on.There's no older GTO with that much power in stock form.The newer camaro's have LS1's in them anywayz,and that's much faster and much more powerful than the old ones.


Do you have any clue of what you are talking about?

[Butters]

Originally posted by Matt37
But your wrong, those cars do not have as much potential as the older muscle cars.

So whats your point????


how do they not have more potential. they have nicer features, can be fast, and get better gas mileage. thats my point.

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by AtvMxRider
Do you have any clue of what you are talking about?

Apparently not !!!! LMAO

I'm just waiting for someone to say that their Honda Civic is a muscle car ... I'll be at the nearest airport on a flight to their town to slap them upside the head .

Real Muscle Car
http://www.musclecars.net/scripts/displayimage.php?o=4779&u=0


Soccer Moms Muscle Car
http://images.automotive.com/tmpimages/1/Ford-Mustang-13751.jpg

[AtvMxRider]

Originally posted by Butters
how do they not have more potential. they have nicer features, can be fast, and get better gas mileage. thats my point.

[Mxjunkie]

Originally posted by Butters
how do they not have more potential. they have nicer features, can be fast, and get better gas mileage. thats my point.

:huh

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by Butters
how do they not have more potential. they have nicer features, can be fast, and get better gas mileage. thats my point.

Here's the difference between the 2 .

Wanna be Muscle ----- has auto door locks , A/C, and CD player
Real Muscle ------------No auto locks , No A/C as it robs too much power , no need for a cd player cuz you can't hear it over the rumble of the exhaust anyways .

Wanna be muscle ----- can be fast
Real muscle ------------- Is fast

Wanna be muscle -------- get's good gas mileage
Real Muscle ---------------- Get's horrible gas mileage cuz the 4 barrels are always open ...owners don't complain about it .

:devil: :macho

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by AtvMxRider


ROFLMAO .... Now Jerry that is a good one !!!!! :p

[AtvMxRider]

Originally posted by Quad18star
ROFLMAO .... Now Jerry that is a good one !!!!! :p :devil:

[Butters]

well i'll take soccer mom muscle anyday over muscle then. i don't get where you guys think i don't like muscle cars, cause that never said that. i like those cars, its just my preference is modern sports cars, and no i don't mean imports.

[Matt37]

Originally posted by Butters
well i'll take soccer mom muscle anyday over muscle then. i don't get where you guys think i don't like muscle cars, cause that never said that. i like those cars, its just my preference is modern sports cars, and no i don't mean imports.

You would honestly take that mustang over a perfect Chevelle????????

Wow, I mean hey that is your preference.. but damn you must really not like power.

Because mustangs are weak.

[Butters]

Originally posted by Matt37
You would honestly take that mustang over a perfect Chevelle????????

Wow, I mean hey that is your preference.. but damn you must really not like power.

Because mustangs are weak.


yeah i think that mustang looks better. i don't get where you think they are weak, i mean through supercharger on there and it will be running some high 12's, which is pretty fast for me.

[Matt37]

Originally posted by Butters
yeah i think that mustang looks better. i don't get where you think they are weak, i mean through supercharger on there and it will be running some high 12's, which is pretty fast for me.

If you throw a supercharger on any car it is fast.

From the factory, the GT"s produce what 270 hp???? maybe?? I do not even know.

I mean they are great cars, but I hate when people put them in the muscle car category.

Because they use to be muscle cars, but not anymore.

[TM426]

I believe the muscle car era ended in 1973 or 74:confused:

[AtvMxRider]

Originally posted by TM426
I believe the muscle car era ended in 1973 or 74:confused:

well yeah but really around 1970 I would say

Originally posted by AtvMxRider
well yeah but really around 1970 I would say

Actually it was 1971 to be precise. A few things occured to cause the demise of the muscle car era:

1) Oil embargo causing rising gas prices
2) Insurance industry was warning the American auto industry to tone down the amount of HP these vehicles were pumping out.
3) EPA was mandating cleaner burning vehicles which introduced all kinds of performance choking technologies that made it onto vehicles starting in 1972.

The most feared muscle car of all time was the 1971 Hemi Cuda! The most sought after muscle car today is the '71 Hemi Cuda convertible, they only made 7!! That's right, just 7 of which only 2 were 4 speed cars. If you happen to own one of these cars, you could sell it for well over a million dollars!!!

A recent auction in Scottsdale Arizona had an all original '70 Hemi Cuda sell for a whopping $427,000! And the '71's are worth alot more than the '70 Cuda's.

BTW, the Mustang was never considered a muscle car! It was always referred to as a pony car.

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by Kyle_TQRA
Actually it was 1971 to be precise. A few things occured to cause the demise of the muscle car era:

1) Oil embargo causing rising gas prices
2) Insurance industry was warning the American auto industry to tone down the amount of HP these vehicles were pumping out.
3) EPA was mandating cleaner burning vehicles which introduced all kinds of performance choking technologies that made it onto vehicles starting in 1972.

The most feared muscle car of all time was the 1971 Hemi Cuda! The most sought after muscle car today is the '71 Hemi Cuda convertible, they only made 7!! That's right, just 7 of which only 2 were 4 speed cars. If you happen to own one of these cars, you could sell it for well over a million dollars!!!

A recent auction in Scottsdale Arizona had an all original '70 Hemi Cuda sell for a whopping $427,000! And the '71's are worth alot more than the '70 Cuda's.

BTW, the Mustang was never considered a muscle car! It was always referred to as a pony car.

You hit it right on the head with your post . I remembr reading a car mg a few years ago with the 71 Cuda ... the guy had been offered over a Million for it like you said . Sweet looking car.

[Butters]

Originally posted by Matt37
If you throw a supercharger on any car it is fast.

From the factory, the GT"s produce what 270 hp???? maybe?? I do not even know.

I mean they are great cars, but I hate when people put them in the muscle car category.

Because they use to be muscle cars, but not anymore.


yeah but you have to understand, i never called it a muscle car, i called it a sports car.

[Butters]

......and i thought 1972 was the last year for the muscle car. i know i see 72 chevelles and stuff and people call them muscle cars. also my '72 chevy is somewhat of a muscle vehicle i mean it still looks exactly like the '71, i think the only differences is my rearview mirror is located on the window.

[CHAR250R]

Originally posted by Butters
......and i thought 1972 was the last year for the muscle car. i know i see 72 chevelles and stuff and people call them muscle cars. also my '72 chevy is somewhat of a muscle vehicle i mean it still looks exactly like the '71, i think the only differences is my rearview mirror is located on the window.


1972 was the last year for the muscle cars. Major body changes in 1973. H.P. started to decline after 1970 due to Federal insurance regulations and the general publics outcry for better gas milage. Check out the H.P. in the motors from 1970 and compare them with the motors from 1971 and up. Big difference.

[LTZ400rider]

old muscle cars may have alot of power, most people dont beat on them anyway cuz they are collectors items. it would be hard to choose what id pick but for everyday driving definetly a new car, becuz they handle alot better and they are lead sleds

[Butters]

ok even if you hate this car, you have to check it out for at the least the camara guys reaction when he hits the gas.

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=572A44AA-C8C1-43FB-94E4-A4B098596683&p=1

[QUADMASTER]

Mustangs aren't weak.i'm not a ford fan but iv'e seen my share of mustang rear ends in front of me while i'm getting outran

[QUADMASTER]

http://www.hondashowoff.com/profile_images/full/5748_1128295496.jpg

i don;t think any car were talking about wants any of this.

[Honda4trax250x]

LOL:p

[QUADMASTER]

that little thing puts out over 500hp.imagine that in a civic or something.

[quadrcr161]

Originally posted by QUADMASTER
that little thing puts out over 500hp.imagine that in a civic or something.

post specs then, looks like a b16 with a fake CF J's racing intake and a stock manifold.

[knelson]

can you even work on these cars with a wrench? I've got a 69' goat that I can fix almost anything w/ basic hand tools, seems as though you have to have a laptop to do anything on these import tuners........I have to admit I have been beat by some of these imports in the past, but that that still doesn't out weight the fun/cool factor of a real rear wheel drive posi muscle car......matter of fact I think I am going to go on little ride.... Be Right Back!

[quadrcr161]

yea, lol just have to have metric to work on an import. now changing fuel curves and tuning it a laptop with the right software is required, but a honda is real easy to work on. i rather work on one of those then a newer domestic vehicle. although i do miss my 73 chevy truck, i could climb in and sit next to the motor while working on it.

[LTZ400rider]

they say muscle cars are light weight high powered cars, but the old ones arent close to light weight

anyway if you think new muscle is trash take a look here

spins them goin like 45
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=C96E594E-4A44-46C4-9F76-C777FEFB7613&term=kenne%20bell&p=0

3rd gen camaros
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=6574F5F3-47FF-4CBA-ADC8-C738AEE56857&term=world%20wildest&p=0

new f bodys
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=235BF6A2-538A-4F08-8D7A-EFE7EBFF4F24&term=world%20wildest&p=0

im guessin every1 thinks the new z06 aint a muscle car either?

427, aluminum block and heads, titanium valves and rods etc etc
over 500 horse naturally aspirated

[AtvMxRider]

Originally posted by LTZ400rider
they say muscle cars are light weight high powered cars, but the old ones arent close to light weight

anyway if you think new muscle is trash take a look here

spins them goin like 45
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=C96E594E-4A44-46C4-9F76-C777FEFB7613&term=kenne%20bell&p=0

3rd gen camaros
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=6574F5F3-47FF-4CBA-ADC8-C738AEE56857&term=world%20wildest&p=0

new f bodys
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=235BF6A2-538A-4F08-8D7A-EFE7EBFF4F24&term=world%20wildest&p=0

im guessin every1 thinks the new z06 aint a muscle car either?

427, aluminum block and heads, titanium valves and rods etc etc
over 500 horse naturally aspirated


Nobody said they were trash they are just not muscle cars. The new generations cars may be fast but they will not hold a light to a 427 shelby Cobra. To this day it is still the fastest excellerating car ever made

[Butters]

here are some pretty quick v6's. i was surprised to see that one beat the vette.

http://extremev6racing.com/videos/V6Mustangs01.wmv

[Matt37]

Originally posted by AtvMxRider
Nobody said they were trash they are just not muscle cars. The new generations cars may be fast but they will not hold a light to a 427 shelby Cobra. To this day it is still the fastest excellerating car ever made

This argument is stupied, because there are no muscle cars today.

Muscle cars are extinct. They stopped in the early 70's.

The traditional American muscle car definition was a cheapish midsize passenger car uprated to high performance by adding an outsize engine and other performance parts.

And further more, at the time period the Cobra was NOT considered a muscle car. Due to the fact that is was NOT cheap. Now, looking at what they are worth today they were a bargain. But at the time they were not cheap cars. Therefore they were not considered muscle cars.

But comparing a new zo6 to the old muscle cars is like apples and oranges. Because in todays world, you pay for what you get in a car. During the muscle car era they stuffed as much power into a cheap car as they could.

For example, my 67 vette new was $4,255. And that is with a significant amount of options.

Today I have gotten offers upwards of 110k.

And my Judge who knows how much that is worth!

Just thought I would throw in my 2 cents.

[Butters]

Originally posted by Matt37
This argument is stupied, because there are no muscle cars today.

Muscle cars are extinct. They stopped in the early 70's.

The traditional American muscle car definition was a cheapish midsize passenger car uprated to high performance by adding an outsize engine and other performance parts.

And further more, at the time period the Cobra was NOT considered a muscle car. Due to the fact that is was NOT cheap. Now, looking at what they are worth today they were a bargain. But at the time they were not cheap cars. Therefore they were not considered muscle cars.

But comparing a new zo6 to the old muscle cars is like apples and oranges. Because in todays world, you pay for what you get in a car. During the muscle car era they stuffed as much power into a cheap car as they could.

For example, my 67 vette new was $4,255. And that is with a significant amount of options.

Today I have gotten offers upwards of 110k.

And my Judge who knows how much that is worth!

Just thought I would throw in my 2 cents.

you have a Judge? if so please show pictures.

Ahh yes, look at those 3 carbs!! Can you say shshshshshshaker!!! Mopar's ruled in the late 60's, early 70's!! This is the 440-6 Pak motor in my '70 cuda.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/briansgi/shaker.jpg


Here is the 440-6 Pak motor in my '71 Challenger:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/briansgi/engine.jpg

[Matt37]

Here you go Butters

My Judge:

http://ultimategto.com/pow/pow0432a.jpg

http://ultimategto.com/pow/pow0432b.jpg

And my other toys.

My GN:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/2099000-2099999/2099629_30_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/2099000-2099999/2099629_18_full.jpg

(CURRENTLY FOR SALE!)

My Vette:

http://216.178.81.108/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25429&stc=1

http://216.178.81.108/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25430&stc=1

Enjoy!

Matt, nice cars!! Just curious, is both the Judge and the Vette numbers matching cars? My '70 Cuda is all original with all numbers matching, the '71 Challenger is an original 318 car. With the Mopars, if your car is numbers matching the value is quite a bit higher than not. I'm sure it's true also with the GM cars.

[Matt37]

Originally posted by Kyle_TQRA
Matt, nice cars!! Just curious, is both the Judge and the Vette numbers matching cars? My '70 Cuda is all original with all numbers matching, the '71 Challenger is an original 318 car. With the Mopars, if your car is numbers matching the value is quite a bit higher than not. I'm sure it's true also with the GM cars.

Yes sir, The Judge is a two owner car. The owner I bought it off of in 99 has had it since new!!! So yea it is pretty cool to know the history of the car since the day she was born.

The Judge is my best car condition wise. It is almost to perfect. Because unlike cars today. When companies made this cars back in the 70's they slapped them togoether quickly. So many of the Judges came from the factory with fender gaps and what not.

I am not sure if the Mopars had that problem but I am sure they did. The Judge is my baby, I have s much documentation on that it is not even funny, documentation is also important. If you have NM and you cannot document it it is no good.

I actually have a recipt for every battery change and oil change that car ever had. And also the orignial window sticker.

At times it is hard for me to hold onto it, I have been getting offers of about 110-115k, and who would have thought they would be worth that much but I just cannot let her go.

And the Corvette just being a Big block NM is worth even more than the Judge!

And then my turbo GN is just my everyday car! :blah:

[Jake250ex]

No A/C as it robs too much power , no need for a cd player

:rolleyes: your one of those who bought a breand new 1987 Monte Carlo SS and ripped off the AC becuase it made it so slow and put on cadillac rear springs so the arse and would set was up in the air...


lol j/k but my carlo ss was seriously just like that when I bought it. I hate when people do that crap :mad:

[Butters]

Originally posted by Matt37
Here you go Butters

My Judge:

http://ultimategto.com/pow/pow0432a.jpg

http://ultimategto.com/pow/pow0432b.jpg

And my other toys.

My GN:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/2099000-2099999/2099629_30_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/2099000-2099999/2099629_18_full.jpg

(CURRENTLY FOR SALE!)

My Vette:

http://216.178.81.108/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25429&stc=1

http://216.178.81.108/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25430&stc=1

Enjoy!

that thing is clean!!!! damn you can't even find some barely used cars in that good of condition. i have only seen one other judge before and it was abused.

[Out_Sider]

they're all slow :(

[Matt37]

Originally posted by Out_Sider
they're all slow :(

What do you have??

Little boy.

[TheIceMan]

Nice cars Matt!!
:macho

[QUADMASTER]

that engine has alot more than an intake.you can't even tell what's done to it from the outside

[Matt37]

Originally posted by QUADMASTER
that engine has alot more than an intake.you can't even tell what's done to it from the outside

Which car are you talking about??

[LTZ400rider]

what are the news mustangs and all the cars called today?

and dont say sports car cuz thats too broad of an answer

[Matt37]

Originally posted by LTZ400rider
what are the news mustangs and all the cars called today?

and dont say sports car cuz thats too broad of an answer

I would say Corvettes and those type cars would be called sports car.

And the mustangs and stuff like that would maybe be roadsters or cruisers or something of that sort.

[rYan01400EX]

Originally posted by Butters
yeah i think that mustang looks better. i don't get where you think they are weak, i mean through supercharger on there and it will be running some high 12's, which is pretty fast for me.


Yea, a supercharger makes good power. It's pretty bad that when a GMC Syclone will tear it up stock. It'll run mid - high 12's stock.

Forgot to say, I have a 1968 Camaro coupe. Nothing special, but I would still call it a muscle car. Sorry for the ugliness, she's undergoing restoration right now. If you want to see pictures of the car, motor, and parts tell me.

[Butters]

Originally posted by Matt37
What do you have??

Little boy.



hey matt what motor is in your GN.

[Matt37]

Originally posted by Butters
hey matt what motor is in your GN.


A 3.8L V-6 SFI Turbo.

I really like the car, but reason for selling is I am in search for a GNX.

Which was a special edition regal turbo they made and are becoming a very saught after collectible car.

I am Contemplating between selling it or giving it to my 18 year old son!

GN's are a blast to drive!

[honda400ex68b]

here is mine 68 camaro, with small b&m blower. it was not original when i got it, so i went the other route. as for the muscle car thing, my thoughts are they ended in the early 70's when they quit putting "motors" in them. the newer one's i would not consider muscle cars because they do not rely on muscle, they rely on a computer. you could buy cars back in the 60's with heater delete from the factory, now they have to have everything in them except the kitchen sink.

[gun32boarder]

Originally posted by QUADMASTER
that engine has alot more than an intake.you can't even tell what's done to it from the outside

You have NO clue what you are talking about. Shure 1.8/1.6 honda motors can get up in the numbers but not with out boost. That has a intake, at most internaly hi comp pistons. No where near the parts needed to boost that engine to 500hp. Also putting the power down in a 500hp civic would be very dificlut and require large slicks.

[Butters]

Originally posted by Matt37
A 3.8L V-6 SFI Turbo.

I really like the car, but reason for selling is I am in search for a GNX.

Which was a special edition regal turbo they made and are becoming a very saught after collectible car.

I am Contemplating between selling it or giving it to my 18 year old son!

GN's are a blast to drive!


i'll be your son if you give it to me. :D that car is so cool. i would love to have it. GNX's are badass though. ah just keep it and have both. :D

[quadrcr161]

Originally posted by gun32boarder
You have NO clue what you are talking about. Shure 1.8/1.6 honda motors can get up in the numbers but not with out boost. That has a intake, at most internaly hi comp pistons. No where near the parts needed to boost that engine to 500hp. Also putting the power down in a 500hp civic would be very dificlut and require large slicks.

the kid knows nothing about hondas and probably cars, he said honda never made a DOHC 1.6 and the fastest honda hotor is a 1.6vtec, just look under the thread Car on this page.

you can get high HP n/a honda motor, but not with a fake c/f j's racing intake and the stock intake and exhaust manifold,a nd its not very streetable. now a boosted 500hp honda can be very streetable and with the right axles can hook pretty good.

oh yea, the cars posted above are all very nice, esp the one matching numbers.

[gun32boarder]

Originally posted by quadrcr161
now a boosted 500hp honda can be very streetable and with the right axles can hook pretty good.


Correct me if I am wrong but small Hondas (civic, crx, delsols) need like 300whp to reach 10s I really don’t see a 500hp one being streetable, especially fwd.

[quadrcr161]

well, it al depends, 300hp isnt getting one in the 10's. it takes quite a bit. there are plenty of 500+hp hondas boosted, out there running around. check out www.honda-tech.com and search some of the threads there. its one of the best technical site for hondas.

[gun32boarder]

yea i been there a few times only realy to check out the Rwd Teg that guy is doing. I am not realy a honda guy.

[rYan01400EX]

This is our '68 Camaro. It's in the middle of restoration so in that case, the motor is removed in this picture. It's not a bad car.

[QUADMASTER]

no it's not a bad car.that car is very nice.

[Rdhanded2]

The car i wanted to see in your poll would be an 87-93 mustang. Those cars are easy to come by, and there are so many aftermarket upgrades out there it is sickening. They can be made into really bass ***** streetable monsters

[Rdhanded2]

Here is my 83