Suzuki LTR-450R Pictures Inside!

[FHKracingZ]

these are on z400central.com

dont know if its fake ,looks preety damn real to me..


http://x1.putfile.com/9/26813502169.jpg

http://x1.putfile.com/9/26813503220.jpg

[trick450r]

ummm wow...looks real to me

[yellowex26]

its kinda ugly

That would be sweet if it is,looks ok haha and im the first to reply.

[sam the brave]

if it is real then is very ugly and seems like a yfz mixed with a 450r

[400exmatt]

IDK about that may be though

Damn it

[yellowex26]

whats up with the front by the light. It looks like 2 diff. pieces.

[blastereatin250]

:grr: :grr: All I see is red X's, could somebody else repost them.

[FHKracingZ]

I think once you remove the front headlight it will look identical to a yfz w/o its headlights, anybody agree?

[SRH]

looks photoshopped

[400exmatt]

its ugly

http://www.all-atv-accessories.com/images/atv-graphics/yfz450-hurricane.jpg
http://x1.putfile.com/9/26813503220.jpg

[rollie]

it looks cool IMO except the front end....it looks like if you took the light off it would look retarded,also look where the rezzies are, i don't think this is the real thing, but its pretty nice, maybe like a hood or something and it'd be siiiick:)

[shankster]

Yup its real

[rollie]

Originally posted by shankster
Yup its real

how does that prove its real??

wouldnt suzuki announce it first? when are they planning on announing it?

[K-Dub]

Them heel guards are huge and ugly. The fender doesnt hardly come down around in front of the wheels. Other than the rear fenders it looks ok.

[Pappy]

the official press release is due out in the begining of october. from what i hear they are not to happy with some of the info that is being found on the internet.......good thing we havent released any of it, they have mean lawyers:chinese:

[400exrules]

looks like a yfz, which is good, but i can say those fatazz heelgaurds would be the first to go

[fasterz]

Looks real to me, hard to say though with the possibilites of graphic arts today. Look at the size of the freakin clutch cover, is it me or is it like double the size or others? One massive clutch behind that biatch

[z400roosteR]

Originally posted by SRH
looks photoshopped

I agree....

and if it isn't photo'ed then i am ashamed for suzuki for producing such an ugly *** quad.

[450robot]

well, if that is really it, that is awsome! it looks so, different

but its so hard o tell if its fake, becuase look at the tires and stuff, i have never seen those tires anywhere, and suz said they were gonna have a custom designed tire, the shocks and motor stuff look like nothing ive seen before either, it hard to tell if its ps'ed, cause i havent seen parts like that

[rollie]

Originally posted by z400roosteR
I agree....

and if it isn't photo'ed then i am ashamed for suzuki for producing such an ugly *** quad.

i think its pretty damn good looking,,plus its what inside that counts

[Mxjunkie]

Looks like a yfz, z400 and a 450r throwin into a blender..

Kinda goofy lol

[zeppelin]

not as good as the one previously posted, but you can see now that the 450z up there is obviously a ps of a yfz

Originally posted by zeppelin
not as good as the one previously posted, but you can see now that the 450z up there is obviously a ps of a yfz No way, not a chance. Sorry, you lose.

[rollie]

i think quads might just be getting where bikes are, theres one proven design for a frame so they pretty much all use almost the same geomotry just different plastic, if this really is it, i would have expected more hoses like a c'dale for the "fuel injection" it looks like the pipe comes out the right side but comes out from the back of the quad at the left, also i cant see an air box in there?

wats that smell

[troutman561]

it would have looked good if the heal guards where GIGANTIC, that would slow the thing down 10-15mph with wind resistence and weight

[Tommy 17]

someones in deep chit... haha



btw so much fo the race ready suspension everyone talked about... they are single rate just like a 450r or a yfz:o :p

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by zeppelin
not as good as the one previously posted, but you can see now that the 450z up there is obviously a ps of a yfz ok...dude, just becuase you got photoshop doesnt mean you have to go through the trouble to try and compare it.

[450robot]

upon closer inspection

[JDiablo]

BURN IT,its ugly as hell :scary:

[Guy400]

I have no idea if it's a real pic or not. Some things do stand out to me. One is where's the fancy suspension we're hearing rumors about? It's looks like the exact same oversized shocks on a stock YFZ with the rezzie flipped. Also, where's the bottom of the steering stem? Looks like the left tie-rod just goes up into the frame and is just hanging there.

[Scro]

Well, if that is real, we can put throw away the rumor that gust will be running it straight out of the crate. That things got as much ground clearance as a 4x4...lol

;)

[Mxjunkie]

it might look pretty sweet if it didnt have the heel guards and the nose piece actually

[Scro]

ok..now that guy400 pointed out the missing steering stem, its been 'shopped.

[Mxjunkie]

it might be ps but maybe its suzukis ps? everyone said the 450r pictures when they first were leaked were photoshopped too..

[Ralph]

Originally posted by bama450r
ok..now that guy400 pointed out the missing steering stem, its been 'shopped.

thats the only flaw ive spotted so far, otherwise they did a great job

http://forums.atvconnection.com/messageview.cfm/catid/12/threadid/467870.cfm

http://www.z400central.com/invision/index.php?showtopic=49579

[Warnerade]

i hated the way the 450r looked when it came out...now i love it...

im sure if this is real, it will grow on everyone.

Originally posted by 450robot
upon closer inspection
lol... if any one could paste all those pictures together and keep it looking as clear as the suzuki website pictures they are my hero:blah:

[450robot]

youve never used photoshop have you? its entierly possible

http://www.********.com/4503.jpg (http://www.********.com)

a white one i found

[Ralph]

you know what, i think it the steering stem might just be a diff design. I was looking at a similar pic of the yfz and it looks the same.

I think all you people who are already complaining should stop while ur not in too deep.

Those shocks are look way bigger than the other 450's. All u need to do is get em rebuilt and its "race ready. look how long it is, if they did it right it should eliminate having to buy and aftermarket swinger, then once again rebuild the rear shock and wit hthose a-arms it will sit like a champ right there. As for looks, it looks fine.

They main problem i see is that i thought the main color scheme is white and blue now???

[Ralph]

if its fake they even did a hell of a job creating a reflection in the frame...

details like these is where u usualy will spot a fake...

[Mxjunkie]

you can faintly see a stem in side the frame area.

someone ps it without heel guards and the nose lol I wanna see if it looks better :p

[Punk'd]

So is it real or not?:confused:

[Guy400]

Originally posted by Punk'd
So is it real or not?:confused: I'll let you know when Suzuki posts it on their website:D

[Punk'd]

Originally posted by Guy400
I'll let you know when Suzuki posts it on their website:D

Yeah, photoshop is evil at times like this..

[Atkins]

The shade of yellow and blue dont look like Suzuki colors.

EDIT: On second thought, remember when the leaked 450r pic came out with the wrench on the nerfbar and everyone was saying it was fake and ugly as hell?:p

[CdaleXtreme]

you guys make idiots out of yourselves.

Single Rate Spring...HAHAHAH (where do you see a single rate spring?)

no steering stem at the bottom.. HAHHAAH

Modded Kenda Claw ...HAHAHAH

YFZ colored Yellow.....Biggest Laugh of All

We need to start an idiot portion of this site and start with the fools who posted the above Insightful information.

If you eyes werent still blurry from your Moms afterbirth you would be able to see stupidity of your statements.

Originally posted by 450robot
youve never used photoshop have you? its entierly possible
:rolleyes: i've been using photoshop for over a year. not that thats that long but i think i know the program fairly well. to create that in photoshop would be nearly impossible. taking several images that are all different in quality to begin with, then too scale and adjust the hue/saturation etc on them would decrease the quality a fair bit. not to mention that the shroud is quite a bit different then the yfz. the heelguards are completely new. the shocks are different etc. i can think of about a hundred more reasons why i think its not photoshopped but i dont feel like listing them...:ermm:

It is not photoshopped.

That is nearly impossible, they would have had to make a 3d model and such, the details are impossible to photoshop ect.

[FasstMidnightZ]

Looks fake to me.

[rancid]

i dont like the headlight and healgaurds, but other than that i think it looks good. i think its real it looks to hard to do what it would take to photoshop this. and i see the steering stem connected on the tie rods, still hate the ugly shaped suzuki seat though.

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by FQX Ryder
:rolleyes: i've been using photoshop for over a year. not that thats that long but i think i know the program fairly well. to create that in photoshop would be nearly impossible. taking several images that are all different in quality to begin with, then too scale and adjust the hue/saturation etc on them would decrease the quality a fair bit. not to mention that the shroud is quite a bit different then the yfz. the heelguards are completely new. the shocks are different etc. i can think of about a hundred more reasons why i think its not photoshopped but i dont feel like listing them...:ermm: http://www.glennferon.com/portfolio1/index.html

look at that....i tohught **** like that was impossible too.

[zeppelin]

its fake, and no one said it was just a yellow yfz, i just posted one with a purple seat and bigger heal guards to that you could see the simularities between the two, btw some one posted these exact pics in the z400 section about aa month ago and everyone said that it was a fake, and alloy mx and nacsracer no one f'n cares what you say anymore all you post is bullchit, go away

EDIT: nevermind i just found out about the ignore list :tired:

[shankster]

heres an artist rendering that looks better IMHO

http://www.***********.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=18

[450robot]

Originally posted by shankster
heres an artist rendering that looks better IMHO

http://www.***********.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=18

oh god no! thats horrible! just awful!

[RaptorRacer45]

All this makes me wonder what the Hell Kawasaki is gonna try (TRY) and create next:huh

[Warnerade]

kawasaki never "came up" with the kfx400....they bought the model from suzuki.

and hey CdaleXtreme...they are single rate shocks. Do you see more than one spring on there? no. They are progression springs...wich ACT almost like tripple or dual rate, but they are still considered single rate.

and zeppelin, people like you is what makes me wanna come back here everyday.

i did this quick-looks a little better

ha ya and i found this 1

[rancid]

with the healgaurd gone, still dont like the headlight but other than that it looks good and hopfully real , looks real

[yfzrider93]

Honestly I think it would look pretty good without the heel guards and the headlight.

[450r51]

suzuki gone and f'ed up another one.

[rancid]

the headlight sucks on the suzuki, but not any worse than the 450r headlight. and honda tried to fix it and failed in 06. so we should give our new competition a chance.

[rollie]

Originally posted by xDEER.21.YECALx
ha ya and i found this 1

if that was yellow/blue it would be n

[rollie]

Originally posted by xDEER.21.YECALx
ha ya and i found this 1

if that was yellow/blue it would be nasty

[Atkins]

Originally posted by xDEER.21.YECALx
ha ya and i found this 1
The front looks all stretched out like a quadzilla.:huh btw, thats just the same image as the original with the light blended with the plastic and z400 lights.

[rancid]

yah but without that headlight it should look not so long.

wow all this time we wait and this is what we get :o

...

http://www.suzukicycles.com/images/ProductImages/logo/500/LTR450K6.jpg
Its real.

Originally posted by FQX Ryder
http://www.suzukicycles.com/images/ProductImages/logo/500/LTR450K6.jpg
Its real.


haha, lets see what the nonbeliever say now

[RaptorRacer45]

looks like a Retarded YFZ....thats bout it, and the rear fenders look like theyll snap in 1 rollover......theres practally notin 2 em
:ermm:

[rancid]

yay for suzuki, lets hope its as fast as it looks.

http://www.suzukicycles.com/images/ProductImages/colorVariations/500/LTR450K6_White_FFFFFF.jpg
and theres the white one
Thanx to me:devil:

[Scro]

Originally posted by xDEER.21.YECALx
...

^^^much better!:D

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by kraz
haha, lets see what the nonbeliever say now its fake.

[rancid]

i will take one in white

[Mxracer53]

here and also there is already a web site.******** (www.********.com)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/1cernics1/MYLTR.jpg
http://www.********.com/4503.jpg

[Scro]

yeah, that link looks convincing, but when I go to the site, www.suzukicycles.com, I can't find it anywhere.

[Mxracer53]

another better bars
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7396/45015bd.jpg

Originally posted by NacsRacer027
its fake.

IT WAS JUST PROVED REAL

[sampleez]

oh....so the light comes off..........but then it looks like a 450r :ermm:

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by kraz
IT WAS JUST PROVED REAL prove it

Originally posted by bama450r
yeah, that link looks convincing, but when I go to the site, www.suzukicycles.com, I can't find it anywhere.
that would be because they didnt put it up yet. i was just messing around in msn and switched the name of a z picture to r450 and that popped up hehe:devil:

[rancid]

if i didnt allready have my yfz i would get one for sure, as good as a job as they did kicking the hell out of honda 400ex with the z-400 lets hope they do it again.

Originally posted by NacsRacer027
prove it

lmao, read page 6,7

Originally posted by kraz
IT WAS JUST PROVED REAL
ignore him hes just being a dumb***** lol

[Ralph]

i cant believe zuki would make the same mistake yammi did. Pathetic...

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by kraz
lmao, read page 6,7 only goes up to page 3 for me...what are you trying to get at?

Spammer

There you go

http://www.suzukicycles.com/images/...00/LTR450K6.jpg

thanks to fqxryder for finding it aka yfzryder, from WWW.********.COM !

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by kraz
It is on suzuki's site, one of the admins of www.********.com just showed a picture directly from SUZUKI'S SITE. i think your lieing....what school did you go to for photoshop?

i like how it looks alot

[Dan_Guetter]

i think its sweet....

Big deal about the heel guards and front plastic, who the hell rides/races with that crap on anyways......i bet money when you spend the money on performance parts and such, you will all change your opinion.

You people are misinterpreting the whole idea here.......this quad is revolutionizing the sport yet again. Making it easier to race/ride out of the box like a dirtbike.

Do you think people on bike forums bash there own industries bikes because how they look?

All you haters are hating on the fact that its not the quad that you own. That’s what i learned about quad riders, and why there is a big difference in us and bike riders.

Honestly, its sweet....i would pick one up in a heartbeat.

[Dan_Guetter]

Damnit, nevermind


hahahah

sorry harley

[Pappy]

LMAO..sorry i moved it to deleted when they started showing they were hacking suzukis site...:D

[Dan_Guetter]

damnit, it took me like 15 min to write that

hahahah

kids:rolleyes:

[z400roosteR]

ok, so some jackass made a site and put up pictures of a bike and called it the 450 so that makes it real? The admins name is airattack111@gmail.com.........hmm, sounds real suzuki like to me. If it is the real bike then good great grand........but until i see it coming from SUZUKI then i will remain skeptical.

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by z400roosteR
ok, so some jackass made a site and put up pictures of a bike and called it the 450 so that makes it real? The admins name is airattack111@gmail.com.........hmm, sounds real suzuki like to me. If it is the real bike then good great grand........but until i see it coming from SUZUKI then i will remain skeptical. the original pictures were found on suzukis server. It's pretty easy to do if you know what to change in the urls...

[z400roosteR]

.........dinli

[rollie]

why did you post a picture of that:rolleyes:

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by nacsracer12
why did you post a picture of that:rolleyes: becuase its the new dinli?

[300extreme#8]

cant be real, where is the steering stem, i believe, the steering stem would end at the lower frame where the tie rods end, but there is a clear space, i knew it was missing something, dont believe it is the real thing tho

Originally posted by 300extreme#8
cant be real, where is the steering stem, i believe, the steering stem would end at the lower frame where the tie rods end, but there is a clear space, i knew it was missing something, dont believe it is the real thing tho What if it ends right where it connects to the ti rods?

[Ralph]

************************************************** *********************

OK THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT. IF YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT IT IS NOT REAL THEN YOU MY FRIEND ARE A COMPLETE MORON. HOLY CRAP. ITS HOSTED ON SUZUKIS WEBSITE, THAT MEANS SUZUKI TOOK THE PICTURE AND PUT IT ON THEIR WEBSITE. NO ONE ELSE HAS THE ABILITY TO DO THIS EXCEPT FOR SUZUKI.

THE ONLY WAY THIS IS NOT REAL IS IF IT WAS DONE BY HACKERS:rolleyes: OR ITS SOME KIND OD PUBLICITY STUNT DONE BY SUZUKI, I DONT THINK EITHER OF THEM ARE IN QUESTION HERE BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE IS TOO STRONG.

************************************************** *********************

[Dan_Guetter]

Its fake

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by Ralph
OK THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT. IF YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT IT IS NOT REAL THEN YOU MY FRIEND ARE A COMPLETE MORON. HOLY CRAP. ITS HOSTED ON SUZUKIS WEBSITE, THAT MEANS SUZUKI TOOK THE PICTURE AND PUT IT ON THEIR WEBSITE. NO prove it

it's fake, part of the steering stem is missing, and if it was real, i doubt many people want it, they copied the yfz

Originally posted by Shift_DVS
Its fake

Wow is anybody else extremly confused as i am?

[Ralph]

ITS FAKE, how could u believe that

[skyhighatv]

?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????

[yamahonda]

the pics on the first page are real... suzukiis not trying to hide it too much i seen a suzuki 18 wheeler today with the 450 on the side bout 50 ft long and 10 ft tall... same as the pics...

[J_bob_28]

i think it looks bad *** without the headlight and the heel gaurds....much better than the z400 anyways

it looks like a yellow 450r. but it looks nice cant wait to see some shootouts.

[BlueZ440]

Well the dealer show is this weekend, so we will wait and see.:D

[Atkins]

If it was hosted on the suzuki site, then it must be real....right?:confused:

[LTandRaptorider]

Ahhh... the QuadRacer with the T-seat I love is back! Maybe I'll have one of those instead of a YFZ... ;)

[Punk'd]

How about shut up and wait till the dealer show later this week.....

There pictures you guys always find something to fight over:rolleyes:

I see some ps'd ones flying around and don't want people to get the wrong idea.

Here's every pic found so far all together.
These aren't photoshopped, they are from suzuki when they had them on their server.

[z400roosteR]

..........Call me blind but i don't see a picture of that bike anywhere on SUZUKI's OFFICIAL website......... http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/Sport/Default.aspx

[Atkins]

Originally posted by z400roosteR
..........Call me blind but i don't see a picture of that bike anywhere on SUZUKI's OFFICIAL website......... http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/Sport/Default.aspx The had it hosted, but no shown on the site, because they were setting up the page for it's release, then someone found the pic. It was never shown on their site, but it was hosted on their server, which is basically indesputable evidence.

[rollie]

the way i see it it would be extremely difficult to photoshop 2 different pictures (angled and the side) of a "make beileve" quad and make it look exactly the same just a different direction,i think its real

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by z400roosteR
..........Call me blind but i don't see a picture of that bike anywhere on SUZUKI's OFFICIAL website......... http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/Sport/Default.aspx relax.

[troutman561]

im confused.. how do u ppl know suzuki had it on their server.. also it looks alot like the 450r hood, the yfz hood, and the z400 hood had sex and the hood on that one is the offspring

Originally posted by troutman561
im confused.. how do u ppl know suzuki had it on their server.. also it looks alot like the 450r hood, the yfz hood, and the z400 hood had sex and the hood on that one is the offspring

A member found it on suzuki's server dude for the last time.

Suzuki got angry that we found it so they took it off. Nuff' said.

[400ex28]

fake :o

Originally posted by 400ex28
fake :o Everybody just shut the **** up. Ittl be unvailed soon so just relax.

[1BADYFZ]

what a blantant ripoff of the yfz

[Warnerade]

prove it.

[Ralph]

Originally posted by NacsRacer027
prove it.

prove him wrong

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by Ralph
prove him wrong its labeled with my name, so clearly i was the first.

[coryatver]

ok you want proof.. go to this address. You see that it is a real address... you don't get like no page or time out or anything becuase it is a real address.. and yesterday that picture was at this link but now they just put a white square in its place until they reveal it. You won't be able to say i didn't tell ya so in a few more days!

http://www.suzukicycles.com/images/ProductImages/logo/500/LTR450K6.jpg

[Punk'd]

Originally posted by NacsRacer027
its labeled with my name, so clearly i was the first.

You just might be a red neck

[Cody_300ex]

Originally posted by Punk'd
You just might be a red neck

Im redneck.

[bad01300ex]

ok that is the ugliest thing i have ever seen, suzuki just plain sucks, it took them 2 years to come out with a 450 and it looks like an f-ed up yfz!

YAMAHA is the best!!!:devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:

YFZ is still the best quad to get:devil: :devil: :devil:

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by Punk'd
You just might be a red neck Im actualy a yankee.

Remember when someone posted a pic of the 450r before it was released and almost everyone said it was photoshopped?

[MXracer16]

Originally posted by bad01300ex
ok that is the ugliest thing i have ever seen, suzuki just plain sucks, it took them 2 years to come out with a 450 and it looks like an f-ed up yfz!

YAMAHA is the best!!!:devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:

YFZ is still the best quad to get:devil: :devil: :devil:

Does that sound the least bit byassed to you? I actually think it looks awesome, and it looks even better with the headlight gone, but thats just me.

Originally posted by MXracer16
Does that sound the least bit byassed to you? I actually think it looks awesome, and it looks even better with the headlight gone, but thats just me.

bias

[bad01300ex]

hey call me bias all you want, its ugly, so is yellow, its all ugly, blue is the best!

Originally posted by bad01300ex
hey call me bias all you want

your biased:p

[Eddiesanders250]

yea you are. what happened to all the long travel suspension setup that was supposed to be stock on it? i dont think gust will run this bike mostly stock.

[bad01300ex]

yall are just in denial, the yfz rules

[MXracer16]

Originally posted by Eddiesanders250
yea you are. what happened to all the long travel suspension setup that was supposed to be stock on it? i dont think gust will run this bike mostly stock.

Well if you actually look at it, you will notice that it looks like it has a hell of a lot of travel in the rear, and im guessing it has just as much in the front, and remember, when they say long-travel, it only means about 11 inches.

And to bad01300ex.... your biased, and well see what rules once they release them and we see some shootouts happen.

Originally posted by bad01300ex
hey call me bias all you want, its ugly, so is yellow, its all ugly, blue is the best! I see blue on the suzuki:confused: OH WHAT NOW BI*CH

[sampleez]

he's biased..........but still correct :devil:

i think the zuki looks alright.........kinda like a yfz with lakers.

but i agree that there's no way the pro's are gonna run stock stuff. maybe zuki parts, but not stock ones....kinda like the gytr stuff for the yfz

[400ex28]

Originally posted by aLLoY MX 428
I see blue on the suzuki:confused: OH WHAT NOW BI*CH

pwn3d

[rancid]

everone says its a ripoff of a yfz what qaud would be better to copy, besides it looks like everbody took a lesson from cannondale. suzuki is just late.

[lostcreekz450]

im trading my Z for one soon as i hits the floors !!!

[thrasher_ex]

Originally posted by Eddiesanders250
yea you are. what happened to all the long travel suspension setup that was supposed to be stock on it? i dont think gust will run this bike mostly stock.

k this is what ive heard about the suspension
before you flame me, this is what i HEARD, not what i believe

there is a kid in my class, he races mx (class youth production 13-15) so he knows tons of pros, including gust. this the info he got f/m him :

the springs are elka's pc'd to look stock
walsh a-arms pc'd to look stock
other aftermarket (i forget which) swingarm pc'd to look stock

i dont care if you dont believe me, im not totally convinced on this either. but this kid is real, he really races, and he really knows doug gust. in fact he is buying his race bike f/m him next year....

[450robot]

Originally posted by thrasher_ex
k this is what ive heard about the suspension
before you flame me, this is what i HEARD, not what i believe

there is a kid in my class, he races mx (class youth production 13-15) so he knows tons of pros, including gust. this the info he got f/m him :

the springs are elka's pc'd to look stock
walsh a-arms pc'd to look stock
other aftermarket (i forget which) swingarm pc'd to look stock

i dont care if you dont believe me, im not totally convinced on this either. but this kid is real, he really races, and he really knows doug gust. in fact he is buying his race bike f/m him next year....

what the f are you smoking? walsh on a stock machine? elka on a stock machine? you no how much aftermarket would cost to put on a production machine stock? not to mention inconvenient

there is no way thats true

[thrasher_ex]

k....even if that isnt the way they are getting all the suspension, a-arms, and swingarm good enough for pro mx'ers to race stock, do you expect it to be cheap or somethin????

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by 450robot
what the f are you smoking? walsh on a stock machine? elka on a stock machine? you no how much aftermarket would cost to put on a production machine stock? not to mention inconvenient

there is no way thats true its what he "heard"

[Ralph]

maybe thats what gust will be running so they can use the advertisement "Gust runs it stock"

Originally posted by 450robot
you no how much aftermarket would cost to put on a production machine stock? not to mention inconvenient

there is no way thats true aftermarket stuff for the most part doesnt cost much more then stock to manufacture- the company's make alot of money. This could deffinatley be possible.

[SRH]

did anyone not notice the motor the back part is off the yfz, has the kicker plug in it, the clutch cover is huge probaly because he took a z 400 one and put it on the yfz bottom end but didnt size it down enough because he had to cover up other traits to give it away...ill beleive its the suzuki when its on there site

[Ralph]

Someone just delete or lock this stupid thread. Its so pointless. People are arguining an undeniable fact and are too lazy and ignorant to look at the details.

I think i should be giving 1 free "Hit" so i can use it to put this lame subject to sleep.

[CannondaleRider]

Wow....what happened to being race ready?

Nerf bars? Long Travel? Beadlocks? ????

So much for that:rolleyes:

I think it will be a long time before anything stock will beat a Cannondale Moto or ATK 450MX stock:macho

Heres proof that it was on suzi's website. If you still dont believe it, well I feel sorry for you.:devil:
http://www.********.com/proof.jpg (http://www.********.com)

Originally posted by CannondaleRider


I think it will be a long time before anything stock will beat a Cannondale Moto or ATK 450MX stock:macho I guess it depends on whos pushing the cdale:eek:

[rancid]

why cant people be positive and give the suzuki cedit until it proves it sucks, he,s right though nobody still topped the atk/dale as far as being race ready.

[CannondaleRider]

Originally posted by aLLoY MX 428
I guess it depends on whos pushing the cdale:eek:

I find it amusing when people talk about stuff they know nothing about

[rancid]

with all the updates and bearing mod they hold up awsome. cannondale just didnt get a chance to work out the bugs and they tried a lot of new things in sport atv,s first.

Originally posted by CannondaleRider
I find it amusing when people talk about stuff they know nothing about I find it ammusing when people make assumptions. I've owned a Cannondale Moto 440.

[KWAD GAWD]

Are people not understanding that this bike was developed as a full blown race bike by Doug Gust and Jeremiah Jones and IS RACE READY. Nothing on this bike will need replaced to race MX. Shocks, A Arms, Swingarm are all ready to go. This isn't a Z400! This is a motocross bike. This is BY FAR the only factory race bike that has ever been produced. The Cannondale bikes won't even compare to this. Suzuki has stepped up and raised the bar for all the other manufacturers, everyone should support this bike hands down.

[rancid]

geuss you dont know how to maintain and do the neede updates. when i got my first dale i thought this thing is a pos but then went to cannondaleriders.com and found everthing to update it and took it to the dunes almost every weekend for over a year and no problems. and my wife also rode an updated one for a long time and no probs, my cousin has that one now and beats that thing hard still no probs. and these quads have no problem getting ahead of my modded yfz.

[CannondaleRider]

Originally posted by aLLoY MX 428
I find it ammusing when people make assumptions. I've owned a Cannondale Moto 440.

Thats cool.......Why you sell it?

Anyways.

Obviously you don't know about all of the new updates all us CannondaleRiders have created.

Cannondales are now just as, if not more, reliable then most any race bike.

Originally posted by CannondaleRider
Thats cool.......Why you sell it?

Anyways.

Obviously you don't know about all of the new updates all us CannondaleRiders have created.

Cannondales are now just as, if not more, reliable then most any race bike. I was not aware of the updates at that time...I sold it to get a blaster so i could trick that out and race it-not old enough to race full size quads yet.:grr: It was a great quad,dont get me wrong, but i think i had it in 2002 or 2003 and it left me sitting alot:ermm:

[CannondaleRider]

Originally posted by KWAD GAWD
Are people not understanding that this bike was developed as a full blown race bike by Doug Gust and Jeremiah Jones and IS RACE READY. Nothing on this bike will need replaced to race MX. Shocks, A Arms, Swingarm are all ready to go. This isn't a Z400! This is a motocross bike. This is BY FAR the only factory race bike that has ever been produced. The Cannondale bikes won't even compare to this. Suzuki has stepped up and raised the bar for all the other manufacturers, everyone should support this bike hands down.

Where did you get this info?

I don't see dual rate springs on those shocks, I don't see any sort of steering dampner on there, I don't see anything resembling aftermarket bars, I dont see pro-peg nerf bars, I don't see a tether(may have one, just don't see it in any way), I don't see an FMF Ti-4 Pipe on it? What about an HMF pipe?.....what about the rotors...Are they wave rotors?...What about beadlocks...do they have ITP Beadlocks on it?...Tires...does it have Holeshot MX tires on it from the factory?...what about front and rear number plates...are they hidden or something?

Sounds like the Cannondale Motos/ATK 450MXs have more on this thing.....but of course your right...your the KWAD GAWD!!!!:rolleyes:

[rancid]

the new suzuki looks like an awsome qaud, but still not raceready. i still want one anyway.

Originally posted by CannondaleRider
Where did you get this info?

I don't see dual rate springs on those shocks, I don't see any sort of steering dampner on there, I don't see anything resembling aftermarket bars, I dont see pro-peg nerf bars, I don't see a tether(may have one, just don't see it in any way), I don't see an FMF Ti-4 Pipe on it? What about an HMF pipe?.....what about the rotors...Are they wave rotors?...What about beadlocks...do they have ITP Beadlocks on it?...Tires...does it have Holeshot MX tires on it from the factory?...what about front and rear number plates...are they hidden or something?

Sounds like the Cannondale Motos/ATK 450MXs have more on this thing.....but of course your right...your the KWAD GAWD!!!!:rolleyes: He works for ATVinsider Magazine-he might know what hes talking about;)

[Honda]

Hmm.......hate to say it, but I think it is the real thing.

Should have a chromoly swinger, very low mounted battery, very trick exhaust, designed for a low center of gravity.

I thought they were going to call it a Z450?

May have a trick Yoshi designed exhaust as Suzuki and Yosh have teramed up this year for MX Racing.

I don't know, looks real though.......maybe?

[Honda]

Another Shot!

[CannondaleRider]

Originally posted by aLLoY MX 428
He works for ATVinsider Magazine-he might know what hes talking about;)

Must be nice, lol.

I just don't understand how it has none of the main points that makes Motos/MX's race ready. But yet is designed by Gust and Jones as being "race ready".

A lot of the first parts people switch to make a bike race ready...are not on that bike.

But on a Moto...those parts were on it.

My question is.....race ready on whos level?

[Ralph]

Stop posting pics with ur stupid website on em. You cannot take credit for it, you just dont have proof.

as for it not being raceready.

ALL the racers who had the slightest idea bout racing complained about the production classes. It was hurting the aftermarket frame companies and such.

If these bikes start coming out totaly race ready many people are gonna loose all their buisness cause there wont be need for aftermarket suppliers. I know alot of great people who work in the industry and would not want them to be affected by this.

[sampleez]

cannondale rider.......how is the moto race ready when you have to spend a bunch of money on upgrades just to keep it from crappin out on ya :confused:

and i agree with ralph. i don't see it being as good as aftermarket stuff. especially about the post saying it has walsh and elka stuff factory

[Mxjunkie]

I guess they ran out of money to put holeshots on the back.. :blah:

[prepracing]

Originally posted by Ralph
Stop posting pics with ur stupid website on em. You cannot take credit for it, you just dont have proof.

as for it not being raceready.

ALL the racers who had the slightest idea bout racing complained about the production classes. It was hurting the aftermarket frame companies and such.

If these bikes start coming out totaly race ready many people are gonna loose all their buisness cause there wont be need for aftermarket suppliers. I know alot of great people who work in the industry and would not want them to be affected by this.

yeah....look at GNCC now, no aftermarket frames anywhere on anybodys quads ( well maybe a few out there ) anymore do to the new rules in proclass. I would say aftermarket frames will be a thing of the past shortly. Only be able to get a-arms, swingarms...etc....

[Ralph]

and about the post where someone said that they heard its all walsh stuff and elka stuff made to look stock.


I think what is meant by that is that gust and jones's quads will appear to be stock but still have aftermarket parts that just look like the stock LTR450 so people think they are racing them stock

[Honda]

http://www.digistash.com/data/820e694038fadbf9b60b834215b46fdb/3769_p92119.jpg


Reflection from yellow plastic on the white Photo.

Exhuast just dissapeered into thin air.

[Dale512]

I see no reflection and the exhaust is in the middle...how many times is that going to be said, since it's in the middle your not going to be able to see it from that angle....u can still see the header in that picture though.

Edit: I'm pretty sure somebody said they photoshopped a white/blue version to get an idea of what it's going to look like...

[Honda]

http://www.digistash.com/data/820e694038fadbf9b60b834215b46fdb/3769_p92121.jpg



Lots of questionable items here. LOL!

[Honda]

The pictures are just to fuzzy to be real, Suzuki would never put out a photo that looked like that. You can't even see the valve stems on the wheels, just a fuzzy blur.

The front shock resovoirs are a joke, do you honestly think they would mount them like that?


see no reflection and the exhaust is in the middle...how many times is that going to be said, since it's in the middle your not going to be able to see it from that angle....u can still see the header in that picture though.

Sorry dude! But at the angle in the other picture you would be able to see the exhaust pipe and part of the muffler. And the reflection from the yellow plastic is visable on the white version, just atop the frame rail.

Face it! It is FAKE, and all of my other information would prove me right.

It is supposed to have an extremely low ride height as well, looks pretty tall to me.................Anyway, don't really care, it's a Suzuki!

[Dale512]

Well we'll see...remember the leaked pics of the 450R ? How everybody was dissecting those pics and saying they were photoshopped and they ended up being real? These pics were on Suzuki's website at some point yesterday, seen them there myself, so I don't know I say the pics are real, that's my opinion.

[Honda]

Well See.........pretty lame photo though.

Congrats if your right.:ermm:

[troutman561]

the rezzies have a different resolution or w/e than the rest of the pic and as previously said who would mount them like that, looks ridiculous.. altho we will look ridiculous if we are wrong, but w/e, wont we know in like a week anyways?

[chazekxt]

i also think its real. i hope it is lol

[Honda]

I heard that the headlight was mounted just below the Handlebars, and was easily removable in order to replace it with a number plate.

Heck, what do I know...we will just have to wait and see.

[300EX_HMF]

look at the header pipe it doesnt even line up with the silencer

[Trevor]

Look at the size of those heel guards they are huge yuck!!!:eek2:

[Atkins]

Hahaha, I love how you guys think its fake. It was hosted on the Suzuki website, there shouldnt be any question in anyone minds that its real, unless Suzuki put a fake on their site which is highly unlikely.:p

Originally posted by Ralph
Stop posting pics with ur stupid website on em. You cannot take credit for it, you just dont have proof.

prove we didnt find it first...
http://www.********.com/ltr450.jpg
not only that but they are being hotlinked off of our server right now so we have every right to have our logo on them.


as for the person that said the pictures are crappy quality, you are probably looking at the ones that have been disected and compressed, etc to see if they were photoshopped, which they were not.

[dober250R]

why doesn't the exhaust pipes match up? And the rims look funny. The frame looks awfully close to a yfz and amazing, so do the plastics. someone make a poll to see how many people think it's fake. I bet you the number of people that think it's fake out number the people that think it's real 2:1. I think it's fake.

[dober250R]

how can you have a rear light with a centermount exhaust right behind it? Temperature would melt the **** out of it.

[dober250R]

All I have to say to the person who posted this picture is, "Sorry, Thanks for tryin out."

[jcv400ex]

BIG CAPITAL "F", BIG "A" , GIANT "K" AND A VERY LARGE "E" FFFFFAKE! IT'S A FAKE!! FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE :mad:

I've seen the bike, it's close, but no cigar....

[jwick07]

A little off topic but could somebody please post a leaked picture of the TRX450R Just wanting to copare how close they were with this one

[lostcreekz450]

Originally posted by CannondaleRider
Must be nice, lol.

I just don't understand how it has none of the main points that makes Motos/MX's race ready. But yet is designed by Gust and Jones as being "race ready".

A lot of the first parts people switch to make a bike race ready...are not on that bike.

But on a Moto...those parts were on it.

My question is.....race ready on whos level?

race ready in that when u get the stuff to meat the rules it is raeady to race and doesnt need a arms motor work axles yadda yadda yaddda but most people have there fav. bars tires and strearingstems anyway so why add an exspensive afdtermarket bar thats gonna get replaced.

Originally posted by jcv400ex
BIG CAPITAL "F", BIG "A" , GIANT "K" AND A VERY LARGE "E" FFFFFAKE! IT'S A FAKE!! FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE :mad:

I've seen the bike, it's close, but no cigar....

suuure..:rolleyes:

[Jersey450R]

ok, somebody answer this: Why dosent the quad have a steering stem, lol?!

Originally posted by dober250R
why doesn't the exhaust pipes match up? And the rims look funny. The frame looks awfully close to a yfz and amazing, so do the plastics. someone make a poll to see how many people think it's fake. I bet you the number of people that think it's fake out number the people that think it's real 2:1. I think it's fake.
that wouldnt prove anything, the picture is real.. it was on suzukis server, i saw it myself... :rolleyes:

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by Jersey450R
ok, somebody answer this: Why dosent the quad have a steering stem, lol?! how can you not see it? take the picture...zoom in, you will see where the tie-rod connects to it...

and fqx rider..i did prove you guys didnt first, all i had to do was post a picture with my email on it, claming them for myself...

its your word against anyone elses.

[TGW_400ex]

Originally posted by rancid
if i didnt allready have my yfz i would get one for sure, as good as a job as they did kicking the hell out of honda 400ex with the z-400 lets hope they do it again.

Uhh no they didn't....

[MXracer16]

Originally posted by TGW_400ex
Uhh no they didn't....

Uhhh, yeah they did. Stock for stock the z400 has always been better. Then when suzuki updated it 2005, it was even better, since honda added weight and changed the plastics.

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by MXracer16
Uhhh, yeah they did. Stock for stock the z400 has always been better. Then when suzuki updated it 2005, it was even better, since honda added weight and changed the plastics. regardless, they didnt "kick the hell out of it"...

[Mxjunkie]

Originally posted by MXracer16
Uhhh, yeah they did. Stock for stock the z400 has always been better. Then when suzuki updated it 2005, it was even better, since honda added weight and changed the plastics.

ever ride a Z? their center of gravity is so off I dont even want to ride one!

400ex deff

[400ex28]

Fake :o

[Atkins]

I was just thinking, and it needs a longer swingarm or it will be a wheelie machine.

[MXracer16]

Originally posted by Mxjunkie69
ever ride a Z? their center of gravity is so off I dont even want to ride one!

400ex deff

I have one....

[Atkins]

Originally posted by Ralph
************************************************** *********************

OK THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT. IF YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT IT IS NOT REAL THEN YOU MY FRIEND ARE A COMPLETE MORON. HOLY CRAP. ITS HOSTED ON SUZUKIS WEBSITE, THAT MEANS SUZUKI TOOK THE PICTURE AND PUT IT ON THEIR WEBSITE. NO ONE ELSE HAS THE ABILITY TO DO THIS EXCEPT FOR SUZUKI.

THE ONLY WAY THIS IS NOT REAL IS IF IT WAS DONE BY HACKERS:rolleyes: OR ITS SOME KIND OD PUBLICITY STUNT DONE BY SUZUKI, I DONT THINK EITHER OF THEM ARE IN QUESTION HERE BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE IS TOO STRONG.

************************************************** *********************

QFT

People, use logic. It was on the Suzuki website, I saw it there before it was taken off. Only 1 explanation, Suzuki put it there. End of story.

[LTandRaptorider]

Originally posted by Mxjunkie69
ever ride a Z? their center of gravity is so off I dont even want to ride one!

400ex deff

Hmm... my first thought upon seeing this is that Doug Gust has seemed to do ok on it. ;) I know, with aftermarket products! :D Oh well, I don't care. I think it will be pretty cool to see a new QuadRacer in the garage beside my old one! :D

[SRH]

Originally posted by Ralph
Stop posting pics with ur stupid website on em. You cannot take credit for it, you just dont have proof.

as for it not being raceready.

ALL the racers who had the slightest idea bout racing complained about the production classes. It was hurting the aftermarket frame companies and such.

If these bikes start coming out totaly race ready many people are gonna loose all their buisness cause there wont be need for aftermarket suppliers. I know alot of great people who work in the industry and would not want them to be affected by this.

its better for the sport, only way it will grow is for an average guy to afford to get into it and be competitive, no one ever wanted to spend 2-3000 on a aftermarket frame with diff geometry and motors to be compeitive...

You think that if it was fake suzuki would be emailing websites asking them to take the pictures off?

[SRH]

Originally posted by Atkins
I was just thinking, and it needs a longer swingarm or it will be a wheelie machine.

lets not get ridiculous you cant determine its a wheelie machine by looking at it , you gotta take into consideration weight bias, and geometry

[slamdak8782]

If that is it I 'm pretty disappointed :(

[Atkins]

Originally posted by SRH
lets not get ridiculous you cant determine its a wheelie machine by looking at it , you gotta take into consideration weight bias, and geometry Well Im just guess, but look at it compared to that aftermarket yfz. Speculation is always fun, just people, stop coming in here and bashing it because you have NONE OF YOU HAVE RIDDEN IT!!!!

[Atkins]

Originally posted by SRH
lets not get ridiculous you cant determine its a wheelie machine by looking at it , you gotta take into consideration weight bias, and geometry Well Im just guess, but look at it compared to that aftermarket yfz. Speculation is always fun, just people, stop coming in here and bashing it because you have NONE OF YOU HAVE RIDDEN IT!!!!

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by Atkins
Well Im just guess, but look at it compared to that aftermarket yfz. Speculation is always fun, just people, stop coming in here and bashing it because you have NONE OF YOU HAVE RIDDEN IT!!!! i rode it.

Originally posted by NacsRacer027
i rode it.

me too.

[exboy]

any one have any more pics like from behind i wanna see what that pipe looks like in the middle back there

[zeppelin]

Originally posted by exboy
any one have any more pics like from behind i wanna see what that pipe looks like in the middle back there

i dont have any pics like that of a suzuki....... but im sure i got some of your mom layin around here some where :blah: j/p

[exboy]

stfu dude...j/p u need serious help if u do

[exboy]

i knew some one was gonna say somethin like that when i hit submit reply

[rancid]

anybody have pics of the new 650z

[exboy]

wtf is that?

[rancid]

its the new compitition for the raptor, but has 58 horse stock and lower ride hight.

[zeppelin]

rancid stop makin rumors

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by zeppelin
rancid stop makin rumors hes not making rumors..i talked to my dealer, he said its a go.

ya, and I already have one ordered.:rolleyes:

[rancid]

its real and they also have a limited version for the girls in pink.

Yeah and did you hear about honda`s new trx650x? I heard it`s lower than the raptor too and puts out 64 hp stock..:ermm:

[zeppelin]

Originally posted by NacsRacer027
hes not making rumors..i talked to my dealer, he said its a go.
we were talking about a 650z... not crack :rolleyes:

[rancid]

atk is coming with a aluminum framed 700cc two stroke qaud for 07. it might go fast.

[Pitboss45]

whoa this was the first time i saw the suzuki 450, it does look similar to the yfz450

Originally posted by Pitboss45
, it does look similar to the yfz450

it looks like the corn i poop out wen i use the bath room

[Warnerade]

Originally posted by zeppelin
we were talking about a 650z... not crack :rolleyes: whats realy funny is...you said you put me on ignore....your nothing but talk. my HONDA dealer (who im in very good terms with) told me that KTM is making the 650z and plans to release it next year as an 07.

[zeppelin]

i did put you on ignore, but then i realized that some of your posts (like this one) are amuseing first off wtf why would a honda dealer know what ktm is going to be doing, and there is now way they are going to call it a z650, they name all the models by the pupose ( mx and sx bike are called sx like the 125sx or 250sxf, their offroad or "cross country" bike are exc like the 520exc) they would probably call it an fsx or somthing else other than a z. also the only 650 ktm makes is the lc4-650 which is a big bulky '80s tech 4-stroke, i highly doubt they would use that one. in fact it would almost be pointless since the mx rules limit the cc's to 450

[Warnerade]

the problem with twhat you tihnk is, your not thinking outside of the box. a the dealer deals with mostly honda...is called Honda East, but sells everything. they are setup with all manufacturers.

and...ktm calls their bikes thats...and they arent aiming their first quad at the mx crowd.

simple minded people these days....

[CannondaleRider]

Originally posted by rancid
atk is coming with a aluminum framed 700cc two stroke qaud for 07. it might go fast.

Really?

Your not confusing ATK with Brad Oakley are you?

Brad Oakley is goin to be putting out a 625 2 stroke quad sometime in the near future......This bike will be about the most race ready bike you can get;)

[zeppelin]

atk does make a 700cc 2 stoke bike but i doubt they will ever make ant atv with that engine, and as for the z650 i bet $100 that ktm will not come out with a quad in 2007 called the z650 with 64hp. i may not think outside the box enough, but yall never think of things within reality

[Warnerade]

i bet they wont either..becuase its a 650z

[zeppelin]

fine then $100 says they dont come out with a "650z" in '07

[Warnerade]

you have paypal..if not, you beter sign up and put 102 bucks in it.

[popo]

Originally posted by NacsRacer027
i rode it.

You rode chit so STFU idiot!!!!!

Until your qualified or have any experience.... rather than spouting your stupid opionion....your comments don't count in this post.

All your doing stirring crap up.