440ex vs. 330ex

[440bigborekit]

not to sound like a d#ck or anything but im gettin so sick off ppl bringing up how there 330s rape 400's are slightly modded. now i never raced a 330 before but i herd dat there pretty sweet but i want to know wat you guys think would win on the track

nicely built 440ex with everything

or....


a nicely 330ex with everything

keep in mind these bout have the identecal skill and weight riders on them

[ZeroLogic]

depends on a rider but most of the time 440 will win

[rancid]

i think the 330 your hearing about is the 250r, and they are fast you should smoke 300ex 330.

[440bigborekit]

no i met the 330ex all the kids on here are always saying who they rape 400s but with the same rider on a 440 they would get raped and yess 330rs are realy fast i got to ride one and it was awsome

[BuB400]

A monkey on a 400 would beat any built 300.

[yamaharaptor350]

yea i cant see how a built 330 wouold be able to take a built 440

[kd5sfq]

The only way a 330ex could take a 440ex is if the person who built the 440ex did something stupid like put the wrong cam in it, it has low compression, too small of a carb or the like.

Believe it or not, I've seen people use the wrong cam and ended up with less power than stock even with a high compression piston.

But if they are both built right, the 440ex should walk away from a 330ex because of the simple fact that more cc's equals more HP's.

[300ex13]

330's will beat fairly stock 400's, 250r's modded to a 330r will rip a new one in just about any other quad on the track

[srfootball50]

a nice 440ex would kick the **** out of my 330ex there is no way for a 330ex to beat a 440ex on a track unless the guy on the 440ex sucks really bad at riding and the guy on the 330ex is really good at riding

[trict_out]

you knew the answer to this question when u posted it...:rolleyes:

[hondardr4life]

Yea, a 440 will rip a 330 a new one. I personally have never said mine will take a 440. The only thing I've said is that it'll take a slightly modded 400ex (pipe, no motor work).

[IOWAracer]

Im assuming u are talking about MX but if it were xc the 440 rider ought to get to the woods first because if not the 330 will take over i am running stock with high compression i passa lot of 440s they aint got much in the woods all top end i think

[Cody_300ex]

Originally posted by kd5sfq
The only way a 330ex could take a 440ex is if the person who built the 440ex did something stupid like put the wrong cam in it, it has low compression, too small of a carb or the like.

Believe it or not, I've seen people use the wrong cam and ended up with less power than stock even with a high compression piston.

But if they are both built right, the 440ex should walk away from a 330ex because of the simple fact that more cc's equals more HP's.

My friend had a weisco 11:1 440 piston and sleeve, a hotcam stage 1, and wb slip-on that had a leak. Well right after I had gotten my motor broke in really good we draged and I beat him, I had a 15 tooth front sproket and his was stock, But i also had 18in tires, his were stock. We switched riders and the same result, but my quad was ahead the whole time from start to finsh, tho it was only by about 1-1/2 quad lengths. I helped tune the engine, the jetting was good, valves were in spec, cam was timed right also. I weighed about 150 at the time, and the other kid weighed about 190-200. I don't have pic or movies, and im not giving out my mods but it meets ama national specs(under 300cc's, production quad), It wasnt built by any big name engine build like sparks or TC. So what my point is that it depends on how well built of a 440ex, I know my 300 would not be able to beat a sparks 440 or TC 440 in a drag. So when you say you beat a 440ex on your 300ex give details.

[400exrider5]

440EX HAS MORE POWER IS LIGHTER AND HAS MORE TRAVEL THAN A 330EX CANT COMPARE THE TWO TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT QUADS. SIMPLE ANSWER THE 440EX. DONT ASK STUPID QUESTIONS IF YOU KNOW ITS STUPID AND KNOW THE ANSWER.

[IOWAracer]

Hey wait a minute i thought they couldnt be compared

[Honda TRX250ex]

lmfao a 330ex would never beat a 440ex
the kids that are saying that are obsised with 300ex
like the blaster kids:rolleyes:

[Cody_300ex]

Originally posted by Honda TRX250ex
lmfao a 330ex would never beat a 440ex
the kids that are saying that are obsised with 300ex
like the blaster kids:rolleyes:

Oh its very possible, I bet we could put you on any Top name pros bike (gust, farr, natalie, ect..). Then put them on a 300ex and they will lap you, I will bet money on it. Hell, I bet I couldnt even come close to hanging with natalie if he was on a bone stock 300 and me on my near race-ready 300. I wouldnt reccomend arguing eaither, cause just about anybody that has any knowledge of quads will back me up. Learn how to spell decently also. :)

[trict_out]

I'll argue amd i have plenty of knowledge of quads. I think natalie on a bone stock 300ex would whipe the track with you on "your" 300ex.

[hondardr4life]

Originally posted by Lil_300Ex_Kid
Oh its very possible, I bet we could put you on any Top name pros bike (gust, farr, natalie, ect..). Then put them on a 300ex and they will lap you, I will bet money on it. Hell, I bet I could hang with natalie if he was on a bone stock 300 and me on my near race-ready 300. I wouldnt reccomend arguing eaither, cause just about anybody that has any knowledge of quads will back me up. Learn how to spell decently also. :)


I've got you back on this one for sure. Natalie on my quad, and me on his quad, he would lap me easily. I dnno about him being on a stock 300 vs you or me on our 300's though. That would be a close one. I haven't ridden a stock 300ex in a while, so I can't remember how underpowered they are. Now if he was on a 250ex, then it would be a different story. But about the whole 330 vs 440 in a straightline, it is impossible. The only way the 330 could win is if it was geared for flat track and the 440 was geared for MX. But if both quads were MX geared, the 330 could easily beat the 440 if the guy on the 330 was good at riding it.

[Cody_300ex]

Originally posted by trict_out
I'll argue amd i have plenty of knowledge of quads. I think natalie on a bone stock 300ex would whipe the track with you on "your" 300ex.

lol My bad I said the complete opposite of what I wanted to say, I was in to much of a hurry. Haha I'll edit it

[Bigun55]

lil 300ex kid, they aint NO WAY a 330 is gonna outrun a 440, just keep oon a dreamin buddy

[97blaster200]

i got a 330ex......AINT NO WAY IN HELL THAT I COULD BEAT A 440EX....LOL

[Honda TRX250ex]

the only way a 330 could be a 440 if the 440 was worn out or if the rider sucked balls other than things like that there is no way

[xx3003xrdrxx]

wtf , who cares???????????///:o :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Cody_300ex]

Originally posted by Bigun55
lil 300ex kid, they aint NO WAY a 330 is gonna outrun a 440, just keep oon a dreamin buddy

wtf ever man Im not arguing with ya, I know what I did im just statin facts. Im not one of these kids who get off by impressing people over the internet. and its not even a 330. Like I said it was a weisco 440, and if you know anything about 400ex's that is by far the worst 440 kit for a 400ex. He had stock gearing and hotcam stage 1, pretty much a bottom-end type set-up. I ad a 15/38 gear which is a little high, and my motor was built as an mid-top end type set-up. We switched riders and it was the same result. Bealive what ever you want.:rolleyes:

[trict_out]

Let ths thread die already, theyre just not in the same league. It's ridiculous.

[97blaster200]

Originally posted by trict_out
Let ths thread die already, theyre just not in the same league. It's ridiculous.


agreed

[Bigun55]

allright im just statin facts to, 330 aint gonna b able 2 outrun the 440.

[Bigun55]

allright im just statin facts to, 330 aint gonna b able 2 outrun the 440.

[Built_300EX]

Honestly, for you retarded ones out there. Ask any skilled rider that owns a 400 EX with the 440 big bore. They really don't give as much as people lead on. The 330EX big bore without the sleeve ect, I have heard alot about and I will soon have one, with a stage 2 webcam and a stroker. Now yes, naturally the 400EX will outrun it if they both have the exact same things done to them except the 330/440 which you should already know what I mean. But, why compare things like that? My friend has a 440 big bore, full DG exhaust system, jetted, and a filter and I ran with him with the mods I have done to mine. However, my other friend had a 440EX with a stage 2 cam, and he outran me pretty bad. That was before I had these mods, I know he would still get me by around 3 fourwheelers in a 300 ft drag strip, but people come on. Stop with the bs about how godly the 440 is compared to a 330. The 330 gives WAY more to the 300 EX engine then the 440 gives to the 400EX engine ask anyone who has ridden most of their lives, they will tell you. A few of my enemies even had them, they will tell me right now the 440 kit really isn't worth getting, it takes down the reliablity if you are somewhat hard on the quad for one thing and the other its, I dunno, really doesn't give but slightly more bottom and mid range power. The top I heard accutally is cut down a decent bit. Dont ask me why but I have heard that from many, many people. If you guys would like, I will also go talk to a few riders that are godly on the track and in drag and i'll quote what they say about the 440. The 330 I really can't tell you much about because I never have gotten to really ride one, nor have I seen one in action. The stories I have heard are great though so I recommend getting one if you have a 300EX, I sure am asap. (Along with the stroker and cam heh) I gotta be cheap and get the extra motor work I know I know.


"wtf ever man Im not arguing with ya, I know what I did im just statin facts. Im not one of these kids who get off by impressing people over the internet. and its not even a 330. Like I said it was a weisco 440, and if you know anything about 400ex's that is by far the worst 440 kit for a 400ex. He had stock gearing and hotcam stage 1, pretty much a bottom-end type set-up. I ad a 15/38 gear which is a little high, and my motor was built as an mid-top end type set-up. We switched riders and it was the same result. Bealive what ever you want."
That my friend, I believe. I have your back 110%. Most of the people here really don't know what they are talking about, I have friends like them that are like OMG 660R's are so much faster than any fourwheeler out, they have the biggest motors etc..etc..they think they are godly. Most people look at motor sizes as a big thing, it's the rider and the quad. I used to be the same way when I was young, acted like I knew all. And I just went along with every story I heard now I have the knowledge to back up anything I say or do. Btw, I'm not posting this to get argued with because I'm not that childish to argue over the internet with youngin's (heh) that would just make me the retard for arguing back. This post was placed and stated for the facts.
Like it or not, I am correct. Do the research ask the professionals they can tell you and will tell you exactly what I said. One more thing I needed to state that the 440 big bores are best atm for the Z and KFX 400's. The 440 EX big bore isn't that great and I am a Honda fan always have been always will be. I just state facts.
And to what I just posted this is what I mean by kids "lmfao a 330ex would never beat a 440ex
the kids that are saying that are obsised with 300ex
like the blaster kids" that type things irritates me so bad its not even funny.

ICQ 179735277, AIM: HavocLoD, I mostly stay on ICQ, contact me if you need any responses or advice on things. I promise I can get you the facts and I know alot about all of these things. I'm sort of a freak about QUADS.

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[countypark]

Originally posted by BuB400
A monkey on a 400 would beat any built 300.

WANNA RACE! :macho

A 440 is much faster then any built 300. You still need to be able to ride. Anyone can drag race, but can you hold onto a built 440 in the woods.

[Built_300EX]

Ok, I am not just trying to make 300EX's sound great but honestly they are very reliable. Most aren't that fast and most real riders will know some quads can be up to 5-6 mph faster off the show room than the exact same quad coming from the same show room that day. Don't ask me why because I really don't know; however, it is true.
I myself, have a very fast 300EX. It's running 75-78 mph and ran 63 bone stock. The other bone stock 300EX couldn't hold close to mine on really anything. I know you are thinking well, it's the rider. I rode both and mine was much faster, the torque of my quad, the mid-range, and the top end was more then just a bit off from his. He even rode mine and could tell a difference.

Anyways, to get to the point without further rambling. Use this as an example. Most of you guys are comparing just the 330/440 without thinking of this matter. If you have a 330 with a, 41mm carb (aftermarket), larger cam, silencer/header, geared a bit differen't, and a K&N filter compared to a 440 with a , silencer/header, jetkit, K&N filter the 330EX will more than likely win. Honestly, the 440 really doesn't give that much of a power increase for some odd reason to the 400EX. I really can't answer why and if you ask professionals they will tell you there really isn't much of a power gain that you can tell on it.

I have a 300EX, with these modifications:
1) 400EX 41mm Edlebroke carb,
2) DG silencer and header
3) K&N air filter
4) Port and polished
5) 11:1:4 compression Wiseco piston and rings
6) 15 tooth Titax front sprocket (Stock = 13 tooth)
7) 36 tooth Renthal back sprocket (Stock = 38 tooth)
8) Shaved racing style fenders
9) Some other things I really can't remember

My point for all of that is this. I can out run with a KFX 400 on bottom, mid, till I hit top then they begin to pass me. By then I have already won the race. My friend Keith has a 440, DG pipe -complete system, K&N air filter, with a larger jet and I outran him. Also, don't say he can't drag because I believe a week ago he won at Dunlow WV, R&R raceway in his class. So yes, to all of you people out there that continues to go by motor size and not think of how the race should take place etc, try thinking of it this way.
If you have a 440/330 with the EXACT same things done, naturally the 440 will win, even though the 440 big bore doesn't do much for it. That's basically like racing the 300EX against a 400EX both bone stock. That's stupidity.