whoa, this thing is cool

[450robot]

ive seen these around in some books, and saw one on huevos, just now my bud told me it was a wtec ereaser, so i figured i would do some research on them, and now i want one! they are so unique!

i just wish i knew how much they were!
they even have a rolling chassis setup!

http://www.w-tec.nl/starteng.htm

and here the new 06 one
http://www.w-tec.nl/news.htm

[trict_out]

that thing is so much more kickass then any american quad

[Snow]

and sooo much more expensive

[450robot]

how much is it exactly? im agraid to ask, on the account of it may shatter my dreams...

[zeppelin]

what will really suck it when something hits one of the front wheels then what are you going to do, no one sell replacements and doubt that think can take a hit faster 5mph

Originally posted by trict_out
that thing is so much more kickass then any american quad

japanese you mean?

[trict_out]

i stand corrected, I just like the fact that they dared to be different. Also i like their choice of powerplant for the eraser.

[Ralph]

:) European engineering baby

[sickmojave]

why does it need 2 rear shocks???

[tdsongster]

Looks nice, but doesn't strike me as very durable. Unless it is all made of titanium and then the price will be so high that no one will be able to afford it.

[YFZ450Ridr]

Originally posted by sickmojave
why does it need 2 rear shocks???

i wondered the same thing:confused: i guess they figured somthing out to improve the ride quality and suspension.

guess you couldnt make the front end any wider for mx, but its pretty wide as it stands.

[thrasher_ex]

im pretty sure they had a shootout with one of those and a ds650x in dirtwheels a while back. i think they said the eraser was quicker, def. made for the dunes anyways.

[450robot]

does anyone know how much they are?

[blastereatin250]

The old ones ranged from $13,000 to $17,000 dependeing on the options you got.

[zeppelin]

Originally posted by tdsongster
Looks nice, but doesn't strike me as very durable. Unless it is all made of titanium and then the price will be so high that no one will be able to afford it.

sorry to bust your bubble but steel is actualy stonger than ti

[punker69q]

Originally posted by zeppelin
sorry to bust your bubble but steel is actualy stonger than ti

hum, sorry to bust your bubble, but this is not true. Their is so many grade of steel and of titanium that you can't say that steel is stronger than titanium.

but, usual steels that are machinable have approximate ultimate strenght of about 100k psi max, compared to strenghts up to 300k psi for titanium.

Titanium also have the highest ratio of strenght vs weight of any metals

[tdsongster]

Originally posted by zeppelin
sorry to bust your bubble but steel is actualy stonger than ti

I thought per weight that titamium was stronger then steel.

[400exrules]

dumbest lookin thing ive ever seen.

saw it a long time ago, thought it was ugly.......still think its ugly

[zeppelin]

Originally posted by punker69q
hum, sorry to bust your bubble, but this is not true. Their is so many grade of steel and of titanium that you can't say that steel is stronger than titanium.

but, usual steels that are machinable have approximate ultimate strenght of about 100k psi max, compared to strenghts up to 300k psi for titanium.

Titanium also have the highest ratio of strenght vs weight of any metals

yes both metals have very many grades, but if you get high grade crome molly then it is actualy much stronger in most applications than militery (very high grade) ti

[cool 300ex]

Them things are pretty cool i wonder how they compare to the other quads?

[400exrider707]

There was a shootout in a dirtwheels a while ago with that and the DS. I think the machine bases for around $8000 without an engine if Im not mistaken. You can have nearly any 4-stroke dirtbike enigne dropped in, most commonly used is the ktm 525. Then you can also get different suspension packages on them as well. Also I forget why they used the two shocks in the rear but check out that axle setup, not likely that you will bend and axle on that quad. Also that funny front end design is actually extremely durable, but it has really twitchy handling. They said the DS was easier to turn and slide, but the eraser is definitley faster. Ill see if I can dig up the dirtwheels sometime with more info.

[450robot]

i so wish it wasnt 8grand for a rolling chassis, i wanted to drop my 450 motor in there so bad, but 8 grand? psshhhh!

[SRH]

whoa, im thoroughly impressed way to go euros, thats an identical front end setup to the 1984 trx 200 from almost 20 years ago....

maybe there is a lack of chassis builders there and they can get euro motors cheaper than us so they build stuff like this...ill stick with a dual a arm setup and rear mx bike style linkage....

there rear suspension is similar to late 70s mx bikes too, those lower shock mounts wow...bolted onto the swingarm..whole things looks cheesy

good for them, there the only ones to go back and refine 20 -30 yr old technology that every other manufactuer has abandoned

[SRH]

oh yeah i just had to say



mighty morphin power rangers

[450robot]

Originally posted by SRH
oh yeah i just had to say



mighty morphin power rangers

haha, i was gonna say transformers lol

Originally posted by blastereatin250
The old ones ranged from $13,000 to $17,000 dependeing on the options you got.


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[punker69q]

Originally posted by zeppelin
yes both metals have very many grades, but if you get high grade crome molly then it is actualy much stronger in most applications than militery (very high grade) ti

By "stronger", what do you want to say? Higher ultimate strenght, higher yield strenght, higher fatigue strenght??? Because I doubt that even the highest grade of chromoly has a strenght equivalent to titanium, and I design parts from steel and many other materials every day and I only know a few alloy that can have strenghts close to titanium, but when you compare weight vs strenght, titanium is always stronger.

[zeppelin]

ok im sorry i had a brain fart, for some reason i forgot we were talking about weight vs wieght, i dunno why i just reread the posts and saw it written like 3 times, but last night i thought were were talking about size or volume or w/e

[exboy]

those things are bad. but the price tag is a real buzz kill. i love that fin on the back.

[Ralph.nl]

Yep, they cost about $18.000