Blaster or what?

[Pappy]

Ok, i've been trying to decide what will be my son's next steping stone in regards to a new quad. I dont plan on him racing it i dont think, more like a quad that can get him off the 90 and onto a step bigger quad. I have been told numerous times that the blaster would be perfect, but I have replied that I still thought it was physically to big.

I finally had a chance yesterday to see a new blaster, infact cody had riden right beside it on the track. I thought that maybe with some +2 or 3 arms, ssd shocks and a longer swing arm it may be the ticket to let him grow to the next level.

what ya think?

[02Yellow400]

i am small and i started out on a blaster.....I was about 14 when i bought it and like 5'1 or 2. I grew out of it fast. That quad has so much potential for him. And im sure you going to make it nasty. Once you see him on it you really notice how tiny the blasters are. And they are very light as well. Besides from those pics looks like he is ready for something even bigger.

[paul01400ex]

go reliable and get a 250 ex:)

[02Yellow400]

No way. I would have a peppy little 2 stroke any day over that shaft driven 250ex. The blaster has alot more potential for the mods pappys is looking to do anyhow.

[theTman]

i say borrow one for a day, and see how he does on it (blaster)

[Mxjunkie]

I belive he has a ktm65? so hes use to a kick start and 2 stroke power manners he would fit a blaster fine, if not I'd go with a 300ex

[Pappy]

im going to have him try one more time on the hybrid 400/blaster and see if he does any better.

[Out_Sider]

How about this?

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=178779

2500$ + shipping charges and you can have it

PM me if you're interested.

[bradley300]

will you and cody be coming to the oh or in gncc's? my blaster has plus 3 a-arms, cr lo bars. its all LT'ed up and has a good amount of power (4mm stroker) he's more than welcome to take it for a spin if he's at the race

i think blasters are perfect, there cheap, handle fairly decent with some mods, you can get a good amount of power out of them, but stock there still tame enuff for anyone to learn. the brakes on the new ones also rock. blasters will be just as relaible as the person who takes care of it. there also really easy to work on

[Pappy]

Originally posted by bradley300
will you and cosy be coming to the oh or in gncc's? my blaster has plus 3 a-arms, cr lo bars. its all LT'ed up and has a good amount of power (4mm stroker) he's more than welcome to take it for a spin if he's at the race

we will be at the NC,OH and IN rounds of the gncc's. ill try and find you brad, thanks!

[SRH]

why dont you buy a blaster chassis, get some a arms and shocks and all that.. and have burgard or whoever put a xr 200 motor in it with like a 220 kit...blaster motors are just junk, keep him with a 4 stroke

[Pappy]

thats the thought in my mind, id prefer a 4 stroke, but the blaster would be dependable. not looking to race this, just have omething he can ride for seat time and keep the wear and tear off the race quads.

[SRH]

Originally posted by Pappy
thats the thought in my mind, id prefer a 4 stroke, but the blaster would be dependable. not looking to race this, just have omething he can ride for seat time and keep the wear and tear off the race quads.

weve owned a couple blaster when there not ridden hard there dependable... but i know your son rides hard...i can see that blaster being a real headache

[Mxjunkie]

Blasters can be a pain in the butt, all my buddies motors have taken a crap with a list of other fubabs..

[Cody_300ex]

Originally posted by Pappy
thats the thought in my mind, id prefer a 4 stroke, but the blaster would be dependable. not looking to race this, just have omething he can ride for seat time and keep the wear and tear off the race quads.

Pappy get him a 300! There a little more tamer than a blaster and handle a little better. Slap on some 400ex elkas with some LT a-arms, a elka rear, axle and all those goodies and you'll have a nice set-up for cody. Then when he want more power just send the motor to GT thunder.

[Out_Sider]

i'm sure my 300ex would hold up great to your son's abuse. It's also a very reliable quad.

sorry if i sound like a sweet talker.. i just need money for my 450

[Pappy]

a 300 isnt out of the question, but cash is..lol

i have several bikes here that need to sell before i get anything. if i had the cash i would consider it.

[Cody_300ex]

Originally posted by Pappy
a 300 isnt out of the question, but cash is..lol

i have several bikes here that need to sell before i get anything. if i had the cash i would consider it.

what ever happened to that yellow 300ex you had?

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Lil_300Ex_Kid
what ever happened to that yellow 300ex you had?


my neighbor was wanting a quad so i sold it.

[TheFontMaster]

I would sugest the blaster, only because you plan on modding it quite a bit, and Cody is still too small for anything much bigger like you've been saying. But once he starts growing, that blaster will soon be too small. I've riden blasters alot, and owned a 300ex, there was no challenge, the 300ex had less power, but handled much better, and it being bigger than the blaster I could move around on it better. We already know Cody can ride a 300, so thats what I would get if I were you.

[rancid]

looked for a hopped up mojave, reliable, fast , chain drive.

[400exrules]

250x :confused:

might wanna look at them

[rancid]

mojave, liquid cooled dohc honda cant even do that on there 450. haha

416 lt blaster:eek2:

[TGW_400ex]

Originally posted by rancid
mojave, liquid cooled dohc honda cant even do that on there 450. haha

The 450 is liquid cooled dumbass.:rolleyes:

[rancid]

but not dohc dip ****, think first

[TGW_400ex]

Originally posted by rancid
but not dohc dip ****, think first

What in Kawasaki's line up will beat a 450r? Yeah thats what I thought think before you post.

Well from what it seems like what you want to do, it would be the smart choice of you get the blaster. Everyone saying "oh there unreliable blah blah", well those guys are dumb. Its something called Mantinence(i cant spell.). IF you take care of it, its going to last.

so my chocies are a blaster, and if you want to go fourstroke get Mojave.

[rancid]

it doesnt need to beat a 450r, its a beginner quad hes looking for not a race quad for his son. lets just tell him to get a rotax powered drag banshee thats faster than a 450r.

[Pappy]

would you consider him a beginner?

we spent about 45 minutes on the hybrid. he has deffinatley done some growing since late spring.

[flyin#5]

stock, or piped motors with filters, maybe some reeds are actually pretty reliable. if you've ran into experiences where they havnt been, someone didnt take the time to jet it, and make sure its running properly. im not sure how much power your looking to put in there, but i see no reason for a motor swap (other than for some fabricating fun) unless your aiming for the 25-30hp mark. id guess mine is pushing around 30, and things wear out a lot faster when you almost double the hp, which is a given.

[rancid]

well your looking at a blaster thats a beginner quad you didnt say a race prepped kid quad.

[Pappy]

He said it feels slightly heavier then his 90, alot wider..lol but he liked the power. It would take him awhile to get used to it, but not long from the looks of it.

[JDiablo]

Pappy from the looks of it,i think he might do good on a blaster,i was riding one this weekend,and if you dont like the loud noise then i'd suggest away from a blaster,them with a pipe sounds annoying,lol,but otherwise they are a kick *** little quad,has some pickup to once you jet and add a pipe

[Pappy]

it took him 3 attemts on his small table to get everything right. downside, pitched in and ready for more...lol

[Pappy]

Originally posted by 300exrida
Pappy from the looks of it,i think he might do good on a blaster,i was riding one this weekend,and if you dont like the loud noise then i'd suggest away from a blaster,them with a pipe sounds annoying,lol,but otherwise they are a kick *** little quad,has some pickup to once you jet and add a pipe

the engine in this 400ex is a blaster engine. its got port work, reeds, pipe etc. it is actually quieter then his 90..lmao

i think i will let him have a few more hours on this and see if he takes right to it. if thats the case then ill either buy this one or build up a blaster. the shorter wheel base of the blaster may be just the ticket and the added width from wider arms/axle would help in handling.

[Mxjunkie]

Pappy I'd just throw him on that thing personally, that thing is sick!:eek2:

[bryan.young1]

i still think that the 250X is a great first bike for a kid that age. im dropping a 350X into mine but i will probably keep the ole 250X motor and build my little one a bike in the next couple of years she will be 9 then. i think that will be a good bike for her.

[JDiablo]

^^ but you have to realize he can ride better then some of us on here

[TheFontMaster]

Originally posted by Mxjunkie69
Pappy I'd just throw him on that thing personally, that thing is sick!:eek2:

He looks right at home on that 400ex/blaster. A little more growing and it will be perfect.

And by the way, nice boots:blah:

[Pappy]

haha, i just noticed the boots. they were washing quads when i asked him to ride the quad around for awhile...lol

[450robot]

pappy, when i was his age, i had a blaster, and i did just fine on it, and we never had problems with it at all, i was a somewhat small kid to, maybe a lil shorter than cody there, heck im 16 now and only about 5'6

anyways, we had it set up for xc,
it was ported, shaved, and bored about .40 over (we used it ALOT!) i forget the suspension setup seeing as how long ago it was, but i remember it being smooth, snappy powered, and comfortable

i think a blaster would be perfect, cause he still looksa tiny bit small for the 400, and the blaster a bit smaller than it, so, i think i would suit him well

[Pappy]

its a tuff call for me.

i know the blaster is smaller then a 300ex, but i personally would prefer the 4 stroke's power and ease of maintence. 250X isnt a bad quad, but id prefer the extra cc's and the E button.

im sure we will settle on something, we have some time. i just wanted a few opinions and for that i thank you all.

[standardryder]

my 300 just went up for sale:D

[86350x]

I'd say a modified 300ex, or find a 250x and work off of that.

You could modify it, and lower it some. They aren't much bigger then a blaster. :confused: I always like the 91 250x with the blue fenders.

[QuadJunkies]

IF I had the moeny ,this would be my Daughters next quad... :D
I think Cody would do fine on a Blast, I have seen several of them at the last WORCS race and Im still amazed how fast you can get them to go! :huh

They would be simple to work on

This site has some of the SICKEST BLasters I have ever seen! :eek:

http://www.vcatv.com/PBfrazier04blaster.htm

[bradley300]

Originally posted by Pappy
we will be at the NC,OH and IN rounds of the gncc's. ill try and find you brad, thanks!
i'll ride over to the youth race at the OH race;) , i'm thinking he'll like it

[bradley300]

Originally posted by Pappy
its a tuff call for me.

i know the blaster is smaller then a 300ex, but i personally would prefer the 4 stroke's power and ease of maintence. 250X isnt a bad quad, but id prefer the extra cc's and the E button.

im sure we will settle on something, we have some time. i just wanted a few opinions and for that i thank you all.

maintenance really isnt what you think on a blaster. not to mention they are so easy to work on that its not even a issue

[JH_Racing188]

how about the sickest quad a kid could ever dream of.....comes with a wr250f motor and a 90 motor u can take ur pick????

[JH_Racing188]

another

[JH_Racing188]

couple more

[JH_Racing188]

i have more just p.pm me for more details

[Pappy]

Originally posted by JH_Racing188
i have more just p.pm me for more details

details on what, who i have to kill to afford it? lol paleeze. im talking about a simple quad with simple mods, not a $12,000 quad that has 1 purpose. its cool lookin, probably runs like a cat with its azzhole on fire too, but its out of my price range for sure.

[450robot]

i probbably to expensive, and complicated of a quad, but what ever happened to that gasgas 200 that was supposed to come out?

Originally posted by 450robot
i probbably to expensive, and complicated of a quad, but what ever happened to that gasgas 200 that was supposed to come out? It should be out by next spring.

[Pappy]

ive also heard rumor that KTM is wanting to produce quads starting at the 125cc range. not sure if they would make something in a 200-300cc line but we can hope.

Originally posted by Pappy
ive also heard rumor that KTM is wanting to produce quads starting at the 125cc range. not sure if they would make something in a 200-300cc line but we can hope. If they make a 125cc sport quad and use the 125sx engine,it would rip. Those motors put out more HP then all the 250 thumpers.

[JH_Racing188]

lol... i just though it would a kicka** quad for cody!!! and its not 12,000 its only 8,000 which is killer deal and wow that thing is insane. When it is ridden by thomas brown 2004 90 mod champ. wow this thing will holeshot 450s it's insane

[Pappy]

oh i have no doubt, and if i can get money to fall from the sky ill build one..lol

[450robot]

Originally posted by JH_Racing188
lol... i just though it would a kicka** quad for cody!!! and its not 12,000 its only 8,000 which is killer deal and wow that thing is insane. When it is ridden by thomas brown 2004 90 mod champ. wow this thing will holeshot 450s it's insane

if i was gonna spend that much on a mini quad i would just buy the cobra exc70

so the kid could run in a class

[Pappy]

i was all ready to jump on the cobra, but now i am glad i did not. several people i know that own them wish that also. maybe they can get the problems fixed.

[Dr89]

I've got an 04' blaster for sale. its got pro-circuit pipes, renthals, twin-air, razr rears, dg grab bar, jetted, runs great, good condition. im the first owner and so far i've never had any problems with it. i've got pics. pm me if yr interested.

[450robot]

Originally posted by Pappy
i was all ready to jump on the cobra, but now i am glad i did not. several people i know that own them wish that also. maybe they can get the problems fixed.

geeze, glad you didnt buy one then

what has been going on with them?
i havent heard much about them

after all, it is a newly produced chassis and motor, so i expect it would have issues

hope they are worked out soon

[Atkins]

Why isnt Cody on the forums yet? :confused:

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Atkins
Why isnt Cody on the forums yet? :confused:

he is, Codeman is his user name.

but being a responsible parent, and with him being young, i limit what he can use the internet for and how much time he spends on the computer. school work and seat time, not to mention being a kid come before the computer screen!

[willow2679]

Chosing whatever quad you do you allways can modified the ergonomics of the quad to make it fit better on it
To me if that 400/blaster he runs is an alternative I would choose that and rise the pegs to make it mor comfortable and maybe put a different handlebar, cutting the foam on the seat helps too
I think the blaster is realy reliable even more when it is stock
But anything can brake if he races it

[red2004 TRX450R]

hay have u talked to Rich Hetrick in a wile. They got some new trick youth race quads at his shop!!!!
His kids are growing out of there quads to!

I seen u had his sticker one of Cody's quads!

[Pappy]

yep, i chat with rich all the time. and im aware of the new quad they are trying to produce. if it was mx id pony up and see if i could afford a hybrid. but being we mainly race XC there isnt call for a $12,000 mini.

[Magna1098]

I have an 01 Blaster and have been riding it for 5 years without a single problem. I run Yamaha TCW-3 semi synthetic oil in it which I also use for my Kawi Ultra 150 Jet Ski. It starts and runs perfectly every time. The blaster is more fun to ride than a lot of bigger quads because it's so small and light and quick. I added a high flight desert seat with a gripper cover and itp tires an inch wider and taller. I see how you mods heavy guys get started. Now I want rims and reeds and... and.. and...

newb looking at the archives. lol.


I skimmed throu these pages. U prolly already got a quad for him. But if not.

That 400/blaster hybrid looked kinds small, or was it just me. Or cody looked just fine on it.

Have you considered a 400ex?? U said for just puttin around the yard, It would definetly give him a taste of somthing new, and could work into it fine.

For racing he may not be able to control it, mabie because he cant throw it around nearly at all. But he looks like hes got a set of arms on him.;) ha. But Just a thot of a 400. Mabie there is such think as taller foot pegs to make it FEEL a little smaller. I dono...

[Pappy]

the problem is size to weight ratio

a small rider who will make many mistakes does not need a 400 pound quad compounding the problem. riding trails and around teh yar is one thing, hitting 40 foot doubles is another. i know, dont let him do that, well i dont have to. he is smart enough and knows what he can and should do.

but the fact is, he can ride the wheels off anything, the problem is building something that fits him (power, size and weight) that will last. id give him a blaster and id be rebuilding it every 3 months. ive seen blaster riders, and i hate to say that a 12 year old would out ride them but im pretty sure he can:p the mere fact that this 90 hasnt completely disintergrated is beyond my comprehension. i think its saving grace is that it just doesnt have the power needed for him to do more then 25 to 30 foot doubles and 35 foot tables. if it did, we would build the jumps bigger:D

[willow2679]

grab a 400 rollin´and put a 250 f MX motor (there are maybe a lot of them to use)
:macho :muscle:

[wilkin250r]

I can't see a rolling 400 chassis and a 250f engine weighing significantly less than a standard 400 with it's own engine. Likewise with a YFZ hybrid.

[Pappy]

the 250f engine is half the physical size of a yfz engine

if we went with a kick start instead of E start we would save even more weight with the battery being unused. the blaster/400ex we have here is lighter then a 400ex, so i can imagine more weight savings with a small thumper

[user101]

what is the weight your looking to be at with the quad?

[AtvMxRider]

Ken personally I think you should go with a 300ex. How tall is Cody compared to my son? I put Justin on a 300ex and he fits it alot better than the Kasea. He seems cramped on the 90 and right at home on the 300ex.

[Elka83]

well if you want a nice national ready blaster then check mine out!




http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/Elka83/CIMG1492.jpg

[wilkin250r]

Originally posted by Pappy
the 250f engine is half the physical size of a yfz engine


But what's the savings? 50 lbs of the engine? (and 50lbs is really optimistic, probably closer to 35)? Sure, that's significant if you're racing the pro-level, but it's not enough to make a quad "safe" for an under-sized rider. I can't see Cody man-handling a 350lb quad significantly better than a 400lb quad.

I'm not trying to convince you that a 300EX is the answer. But I'm not following your logic. I don't see an advantage to a YFZ chassis other than suspension travel, which you haven't even mentioned as an issue.

Does he fit better on a YFZ than a 300EX?

[bradley300]

remeber pappy, you might rebuild a blaster every 3 months, but it cost 75 bucks and a hour and ahalf of your time.and that is a high strung national motor. leave it farily stock with a pipe and filter and it will last quite a while between rebuilds even under race conditions. not to mention, even 2003 blasters with a ton of high end mods go for cheap

[underpowered]

i think a 300ex or a hybrid would be better. the blaster is a great quad but the more you put into the motor the less reliable it is. you can build a decent 300ex motor and still have it be reliable and long lasting. plus stock for stock the blaster requires more suspension work to make it a comfortable quad to ride. i figure it will most likely get new shocks, a-arms and a swingarm but if he rides it stock for a while the 300ex is jsut much better than the blaster in the suspension department. a hybrid would also be great but tehn that is a lot more upfrotn cost because of the customization required. i say start off witha 300ex and upgrade.

I would say stay away from 2 smoak. not for maintance reasons, but to learn how to ride on a thumper.


But then again, in my opinion a 2smoak is harder to ride than 4stroke. So if he where to learn on the 2 smoak then jump onto a 4stroke he may be faster.

I know that my problem with riding is that I use the engine as a brake to often. I let up going into the corner to early and often times brakes arent nessary. well some brake but u get the idear. so when I hop on a banshee I am always going into corners wayyy to fast, lol.