450r front shocks on a Ltz400?

[TRFOXX]

Will the 450r shocks line up on a z400? And will they fit on a 400ex also? I heard that they will but wanted to make sure? :confused:

They will fit, but you need to grind some off the top mount,and they wont work correctly.

[02bwraptor]

I just installed 450r shocks on my dads 400ex. The only modification is you have to remove the nut that holds the front fender brackets. I just zip tied the mounts back on.

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by 02bwraptor
I just installed 450r shocks on my dads 400ex. The only modification is you have to remove the nut that holds the front fender brackets. I just zip tied the mounts back on.

Just because they fit doesn't make them correct. Please search about 35 different threads on this.

[TRFOXX]

From what i have heard that these 450r shocks are way better than than the stock Z400 shocks. A lot of people are saying that they are a little stiff, but i need stiff I weigh 250lbs and at 6'2"
I know that the stock 03 Z400 front shocks are pretty bad for my weight. If anyone has a set of 450r shocks for sale PM me. I dont want to pay 400 to 800 dollars for shocks when i only trail ride 1 a month!

Originally posted by TRFOXX
From what i have heard that these 450r shocks are way better than than the stock Z400 shocks. A lot of people are saying that they are a little stiff, but i need stiff I weigh 250lbs and at 6'2"
I know that the stock 03 Z400 front shocks are pretty bad for my weight. If anyone has a set of 450r shocks for sale PM me. I dont want to pay 400 to 800 dollars for shocks when i only trail ride 1 a month! new 450r stock fronts go for 175-200 on ebay. www.ebaymotors.com then parts/accesories-ATV

[<DRS>GPF]

Originally posted by 400exrider707
Just because they fit doesn't make them correct. Please search about 35 different threads on this.

correct? its a generic shock made for a variety of rider weights..

what exactly is the problem??

if your thinking "geometry"(which has gotten to be an abused word) then you really havent looked at each quad.. the differences are hardly notable... the length, angle and quads dry weights are too close to be a problem..

just because its not a "tuned" aftermarket shock, that doesnt make it incompatible to a variety of very, very similar quads..

[dirtdigger71]

EXACTLY!!!!

[rollie]

the Z400 is nothing like the 450R

[TRFOXX]

So what do you guys think will this work on my quad or not? Anybody out there that has these on there Z400 let me know? And if anyone has a set for sale let me know?
Nacsracer 12 we all know that the 450r is nothing like the Z400! Thats some useless information! :huh

[kfxwizzard400]

hey with some mods the z400 smokes a 450r look at doug gust... LAST YEAR

[rollie]

with some mods??? dude doug gust could win on an LT 80 because hes factory backed and yoshi works the engine....he has titanuim springs all the way around too save .2 pounds.....:eek2:

[rollie]

Originally posted by TRFOXX

Nacsracer 12 we all know that the 450r is nothing like the Z400! Thats some useless information! :huh

ok i was juts reponding to this post


if your thinking "geometry"(which has gotten to be an abused word) then you really havent looked at each quad.. the differences are hardly notable... the length, angle and quads dry weights are too close to be a problem.. :) make sence now? it helps to read everyones response in your own thread

[TRFOXX]

Gottcha!!

[<DRS>GPF]

MODEL QuadSport® Z400 (LT-Z400)
Front: Independent, double A-arm, 5-way adjustable preload, 8.5 in. of travel
Rear: Linkage-type, gas/oil damped, fully adjustable spring preload, adjustable compression and rebound damping, 9.1 in. of travel
DRY WEIGHT 372 lbs.

MODEL Sportrax® 450R
Front: Independent double-wishbone w/Showa shocks, featuring adjustable spring preload, rebound & compression damping; 8.4-inch travel
Rear: Pro-Link w/single Showa shock featuring adjustable spring preload, rebound & compression damping; 9.0-inch trav
DRY WEIGHT 350 lbs.

only 22lbs difference dry weight for a rider that could weigh 150 to 250lbs..
the shocks lengths, mounting locations and angles are just too close..

i could probably go through quite a few full sets of stock shock "takeoffs", before i spend enough cash to buy a single set of finely tuned shocks, that these minor differences actually might effect the long term performance of..

[400exrider707]

They are two different quads with two different setups. The 450 for one weighs less, has longer a-arms and I seriously doubt that they angle of the shock remains the same on both quads throughout the whole stroke. Each shock is vavled and sprung for that machine. You could make them work, but would require at least a revalve and possibly a respring. Like I said before search the topic there is plenty of info on this already and if you still are in doubt ask the suspension guru Jeff@thequadshop.

[walty]

the 450r fits perfect on your z400

i done it on a friend z400 and it work VERY good plus i grind just a little bit of the stock z400 spring to have it fit the 450r shock and it work again very good;)

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by walty
they 450r fits perfectly on your z400

i done it on a friend z400 and it work VERY good plus i gring just a little bit of the stock z400 spring to have it fit the 450r shock and it work again extrimely good;)

Try english next time:huh

[walty]

Originally posted by 400exrider707
Try english next time:huh

your such a very nice a** h*le
then why dont you try FRENCH, SPANICH and ENGLISH next time because I can

lucky me i am not a stupid amer**** like ONLY YOU are




ps i feel very sorry if i made some of you upset but that guy played with my nerve:mad: :(

[kfxwizzard400]

haha that was kinda funny though i couldnt even read it and all the words were spelled right

[TRFOXX]

Enough of the BS, i want to know from the people only that has tried this and how did it turn out? Was it to stiff to soft? Is it worth doing or should i get a set of work steelers and say f**k it!
Remember i dont race i ride once a month down on some land i own in the sticks in Southern Ohio. I do ride very aggressivly though. When we do go riding we will put on 100 miles a day/night, we ride at night usually till the sun comes up! but like i said Im 250lbs and im 6'2" I heard of a lot of people doing this conversion and just thought id ask here first. Thanks for the replys but at this point im still not sure what to do. You can get these shocks from 100.00 to 170.00 so it is a lot cheaper than the aftermarket shocks.

Jeff@thequadshop should have an automatic response that posts itself in every thread in this section with "450r shocks" in the title, explaining why its a bad idea. Search.

[<DRS>GPF]

people here (http://z400central.com/invision/index.php?showforum=3) have had no issues..

and youll get alot less negative feedback for asking..

[TRFOXX]

Exactly, thats where i have been reading about putting 450R shocks on Z400. Im a member there also. Theres a lot less smart asses on that sight but it dosent have as many members as Exriders and dont get your answers questioned some times. But its a great sight as well!

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by kfxwizzard400
haha that was kinda funny though i couldnt even read it and all the words were spelled right

Thanks, thats what I was getting at

[400exrider707]

Ok well you have been answered, and with the answers you have gotten and the search button you should be able to gather enough info to make a decision. If I was in your shoes, I would prbably just get the 450R shocks. Or try and find 05 take offs from a new Z. Price being your number one issue. The 450R shocks w/ a revalve/respring are going to be better than any works IMO, but if you have the money get a set of elkas or axis or something along those lines, because those shocks set up for your weight and bike will blow 450R shocks out of the water. Hope this helps.

[<DRS>GPF]

Originally posted by 400exrider707
The 450R shocks w/ a revalve/respring are going to be better than any works IMO


hmm... than any Works?
Im not sure id agree, but; How did Works shocks get into this?

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by TRFOXX
or should i get a set of work steelers and say f**k it!
.


Thats how works got into it and that is MY opinion, I didn't say they are definitely better than works, but it is MY opinion that they are.

[TRFOXX]

Well good news Im getting a set of Fox Floats from a good friend that knows and deals with Bob Fox directly. Getting a set for 1/2 price. So ill put this thread to rest. But i would still like a set of 450R shocks for my 400ex! Thanks for all the replys!

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by TRFOXX
Well good news Im getting a set of Fox Floats from a good friend that knows and deals with Bob Fox directly. Getting a set for 1/2 price. So ill put this thread to rest. But i would still like a set of 450R shocks for my 400ex! Thanks for all the replys!

Those floats will DEFINITELY be better than 450R shocks.

[<DRS>GPF]

Originally posted by 400exrider707
Those floats will DEFINITELY be better than 450R shocks.


agreed..lol

[kfxwizzard400]

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[dj_pizzim]

Well i didnt read the whole post so i dont know if someone else already said it but if you that worried about if there going to fit or not just look for some shocks off a new sukawcat 400 they are basicly the same shock as on the 450r and they will work perfectly. I have 450r shocks on my 400 and i didnt have to do anything to make them fit (i have maier race cut fronts i dont know if you have to disconnect the mount with a stock front) They work great and the ride is a million times better than it was with the stock front shocks and im a big guy 6'4" 260. Hope the input helps

[DVXchic]

Hey there, i see things got a little out of hand, Yes they will fit and they work great, I put them on +2 a arms. Oh well, good luck with the fox floats, wish i could get some of them. Oh yeah, my bikes a DVX.

[BlueZ440]

Originally posted by TRFOXX
So what do you guys think will this work on my quad or not? Anybody out there that has these on there Z400 let me know? And if anyone has a set for sale let me know?
Nacsracer 12 we all know that the 450r is nothing like the Z400! Thats some useless information! :huh

They will work. I have used them for MX for a year now and for what I pay...They are better then stock and works shocks in my opinion.

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