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Rich250RRacer
08-31-2005, 02:20 PM
I have just spoke with my source of information (who shall remain confidential) and this is what I got. This is still all speculation, but it sounds interesting.

An electric start 450R model, with some other changes. (Was not specific)

A race ready model, possible long travel suspension like that is rumored to be on the Suzuki, and a motor closer to what is in the CRF450R. (Bore and stroke?)

While this is speculation, all will be revealed at the dealer show next week. I guess we'll see how good my source actually is. If any of it is true, just remember you heard it here first. And if it's not, you didn't hear it from me.
:D :D
He also said something about an electric start TRX90, and possibly a big twin utility to replace the Rincon.
Mxjunkie
08-31-2005, 02:26 PM
I hope they still have the kick start r and a e model seperate like how the crf450 and crf450x are.
wilkin250r
08-31-2005, 02:30 PM
Call me a pessimist, but I don't put too much stock into "Honda rumors". They seem pretty good at keeping a lid on things, so most rumors tend to be just that.

If rumors were to be believed, the 450r was supposed to be an aluminum-framed, fuel-injected beast with independent rear suspension.
08-31-2005, 02:41 PM
[i]
He also said something about an electric start TRX90[/B] isnt it already?
Rich250RRacer
08-31-2005, 02:56 PM
No it isn't, and you see the unchanged models were already released, but there was no TRX90 among those.
08-31-2005, 03:03 PM
Christ who gives a **** about the ****ing rumors cant anyone be ****ing patient n wait before they stir **** the **** up?!?!?!
Rich250RRacer
08-31-2005, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Honda MaNiAc 01
Christ who gives a **** about the ****ing rumors cant anyone be ****ing patient n wait before they stir **** the **** up?!?!?!

Take a 'lude, man. No need to get all bent about it.
08-31-2005, 03:16 PM
Sorry.. today was my first day of school :mad:
wilkin250r
08-31-2005, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Honda MaNiAc 01
Christ who gives a **** about the ****ing rumors cant anyone be ****ing patient n wait before they stir **** the **** up?!?!?!

Wow, dude. Somebody piss in your Corn Flakes this morning? We're just shootin the chit, talking about things we've heard. Don't you think this is a little bit of an over-reaction?
bulkdriverlp
08-31-2005, 04:08 PM
honda does have a legendary reliable machine, but they are so far behind the times when it comes to bells and whistles that ill never buy another!!!
400exrules
08-31-2005, 04:10 PM
would be cool if they would come out with a big bore sport, like a 650 or somethin...but it wont happen
TheFontMaster
08-31-2005, 04:14 PM
Go wilkin, time to warm up your new ban button.

What I really think honda needs to come up with is a quad to compeate with the ds650, raptor, they hanve no sport quad over 450cc's. I think they really need to get into that market. Thats more just what I wan't to see from honda, than rumors, but one can hope.
toby400ex
08-31-2005, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by TheFontMaster
Go wilkin, time to warm up your new ban button.

What I really think honda needs to come up with is a quad to compeate with the ds650, raptor, they hanve no sport quad over 450cc's. I think they really need to get into that market. Thats more just what I wan't to see from honda, than rumors, but one can hope.
I doubt honda gives a **** about the big bore sport department. Not near as profitable as the 450's.
Punk'd
08-31-2005, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Mxjunkie69
I hope they still have the kick start r and a e model seperate like how the crf450 and crf450x are.

Yes.
08-31-2005, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by wilkin250r
Wow, dude. Somebody piss in your Corn Flakes this morning? We're just shootin the chit, talking about things we've heard. Don't you think this is a little bit of an over-reaction?

No but i didnt finish my coffee before the bus came lol

I think they should do something with the 650 bike engine ive been saying this for about a year now n im starting to lose hope :ermm:
400exrules
08-31-2005, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by Honda MaNiAc 01
No but i didnt finish my coffee before the bus came lol

I think they should do something with the 650 bike engine ive been saying this for about a year now n im starting to lose hope :ermm:

everyone has/ and is losing hope with honda, and getting on board with yamaha. i hate to say it, but kudos to yamaha cuz they seem to keep things moving and continue to step it up
08-31-2005, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by 400exrules
everyone has/ and is losing hope with honda, and getting on board with yamaha. i hate to say it, but kudos to yamaha cuz they seem to keep things moving and continue to step it up

The 06 YFZ is amazing! makes the 450r look like childs play
08-31-2005, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Honda MaNiAc 01
The 06 YFZ is amazing! makes the 450r look like childs play
dude the 06 450R isnt out yet. If there is a god itll blow the yfz out of the water:)
08-31-2005, 09:30 PM
i hope honda is gonna step it up a litlle cus now that yami has got there true 450 and the 700 .honda is gonna need something niiiiccccceee.



P.S
i think they got it we just gotta wait:macho
Rich250RRacer
08-31-2005, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by Honda MaNiAc 01
The 06 YFZ is amazing! makes the 450r look like childs play
I hate to do this because of all the crap it will start, but we just returned from the Huron National Forest, and there's a drag race hill called Bull Gap. The hill is about 200 yards long and alot of guys gather there to race. My buddy brought his '06 YFZ and I had my '04 450R. The only mods to my quad are the HRC kit and 13 tooth front sprocket. His was all stock except for the open exhaust (no spark arrestor core). First and second gear were fairly close, but after I hit third, I pulled about a 1 1/2 quad length lead the rest of the way up the hill. Now I know this is only one aspect of these quads, and that each has their good points but I think he has a little more respect for the Honda now. Let's hope Honda addresses some of the little issues with the 450R and makes a great quad even better.
K_Fulk
08-31-2005, 09:46 PM
When the dealer show? Can't be more then a week before we know for sure whats coming up next.
nowukno
08-31-2005, 10:28 PM
When i was at my local honda dealer today , the parts manager told me that they would have two different models (trx450r - trx450x). The 450r would stay basically the same but he said it's a possibility it would come stock with the HRC kit. The 450x would have e-start and different gearing so the first gear would not be so tall. They did have the 2006 400ex there and they look the same exept for the black seat on the red 400ex's. But i think the 450r/450x idea will be great for honda's buisness , because there are a ton of people who would have got the 450r over the yfz if it would have e-start.
QuadJunkies
08-31-2005, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by 400exrules
everyone has/ and is losing hope with honda, and getting on board with yamaha. i hate to say it, but kudos to yamaha cuz they seem to keep things moving and continue to step it up actually , MORE are switching to Hondas... :huh
slamdak8782
09-01-2005, 08:09 AM
I think Honda is doing pretty good with their models but I agree they need to step it up some. On the other hand what is wrong with Suzuki where is the new 450 and also lame brands like Kawasaki and Arctic cat. What is wrong with these people don't they see the interest is there. I really am disapointed with Kawasaki the most. What the hell happened. they haven't put out a really decent sport bike since the Tecate. I think they should make a wicked 450 that has some styling of the Tecate. We could have epic battles with Kawasaki Honda Yamaha and Suzuki battling it out in the pro classes. One more thing I'm really hoping for is the KTM polaris which I'm sure will have styling that a Kindergaden kid could design. Right now I think Honda and Yamaha both deserve cudos. All in all the ATV market is pretty good but they just need to see what we want. All of these ideas have been pushed at one time or another.
Woodsrider
09-01-2005, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by QuadJunkies
actually , MORE are switching to Hondas... :huh

I tend to agree with this statement. If this is any indication, there are a lot more YFZ's in the cycle trader here than there are TRX's.
Im glad Im not in the market for a new quad right now, too many choices :confused:
09-01-2005, 08:43 AM
I would love to see a efi 450 from honda. but it probly wont hapen anytime soon.
wilkin250r
09-01-2005, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by slamdak8782
I really am disapointed with Kawasaki the most. What the hell happened. they haven't put out a really decent sport bike since the Tecate.

Kawasaki has the V-force, which has a small but loyal following. It's not in the same class as the 450s, so it's not as popular, but you can't say that Kawi came out with nothing at all.

I'm still eager to hear/see this great Suzuki 450 we've all been hearing rumors about...
dober250R
09-05-2005, 08:22 AM
WHEN IS THE DEALER SHOW??????????????
SRH
09-05-2005, 08:27 AM
if the honda had the power and the hit like my yfz...and the low centry of gravtiy id prob have one
Mxjunkie
09-05-2005, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by mittimj
I would love to see a efi 450 from honda. but it probly wont hapen anytime soon.

efi sucks imo, I would rather keep it simple to a regular carb, kick start then a estart model.

you go with efi how are you going to tune it, take it to the dealership?
trick450r
09-05-2005, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by Mxjunkie69
efi sucks imo, I would rather keep it simple to a regular carb, kick start then a estart model.

you go with efi how are you going to tune it, take it to the dealership?

no man you buy a laptop just to buy the program then you spend the money to learn how to operate the program and buy this time you've spent just as much as the quad acually cost you...duh
Mxjunkie
09-05-2005, 08:39 AM
damn thats so worth getting efi!
400ex28
09-05-2005, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by Mxjunkie69
damn thats so worth getting efi!

i got efi on my 400 :uhoh:
exboy
09-05-2005, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by 400ex28
i got efi on my 400 :uhoh:

how do u like it?
:confused:
exboy
09-05-2005, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by 400ex28
i got efi on my 400 :uhoh:

how do u like it?
:confused:
09-05-2005, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by exboy
how do u like it?
:confused:

your joking right?
86350x
09-05-2005, 09:21 PM
I wouldn't expect much more then electric start, and maybe some revised suspension settings.

I'd still like to see a quad with an xr650r motor in it though. It's honda's best new tech motor. And is a monster when uncorked. A current chassis with this motor (un detuned) would be awesome.
09-05-2005, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Mxjunkie69
I hope they still have the kick start r and a e model seperate like how the crf450 and crf450x are.

yep
Woodsrider
09-05-2005, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by Mxjunkie69
efi sucks imo, I would rather keep it simple to a regular carb, kick start then a estart model.

you go with efi how are you going to tune it, take it to the dealership?

Thats the great thing about EFI. You dont need to to "tune" it. the computer does the "tuning". The computer calculates proper air/fuel ratio at any given throttle position, dependant upon readings from the MAP sensor, TP sensor, and an exhaust gas sensor. data from these sensors is used to calculate the proper pulse and duration for the injector.
No more dinkin with the jets to get the ratio right.
400exrules
09-06-2005, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Woodsrider
Thats the great thing about EFI. You dont need to to "tune" it. the computer does the "tuning". The computer calculates proper air/fuel ratio at any given throttle position, dependant upon readings from the MAP sensor, TP sensor, and an exhaust gas sensor. data from these sensors is used to calculate the proper pulse and duration for the injector.
No more dinkin with the jets to get the ratio right.


damn!......too bad they dont all have efi
trx450jason
09-06-2005, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by dober250R
WHEN IS THE DEALER SHOW??????????????

i think its tomorrow the 7th