450r vs. yfz

[400exrider0004]

Who would win between a stock 450r vs. a stock yfz. Or both modded the same how would they do. Also could you you name both pluses and minuses about both, I haven't decided on which one to get.
Thanks in advance

[wvspeedfreak]

250ex would win :bandit:

[yellowex26]

wvspeedfreak..where are you from?

[zeppelin]

the yfz would win

hmm,lets see,i think the SEARCH BUTTON WOULD WIN!!!!!!!!:o

[wvspeedfreak]

Originally posted by yellowex26
wvspeedfreak..where are you from?

Eastern panhandle of West Virginia...............and you?

[cjj]

yfz wins

[mikeB]

YFZ

[Ruby Soho]

Originally posted by mikeB
YFZ

i agree, but the 450r wouold put up a fight

[400exrider0004]

whats so different about the yfz that would make it faster?

[dtzalba450r]

I've had my honda 450r about a year now, I just got my 06' yfz last Saturday and they are completely different and equal in their own right. I think the Yamaha may respond more to simple mods compared to the honda. So far my r has exhaust, jetted, hrc cam, intake and stock gearing the yfz is just jetted, piped and intake and they are pretty equal, in my experiences the difference in a drag race is about a bike or so. The yfz is still harsher to ride than the honda but seems quicker and more explosive out of corners, the Honda is plush and the power doesn't seem so abrupt but is just as fast. I never realized this until I pitted my two bikes against each other that the rear end on the honda spins a lot compared to the yfz that hooks up so well that it will pull a wheely in third gear. Just my observations!

[400exrider0004]

Is the HRC a good add on?

[rooster300ex]

yea i believe that the yfz has alil more topend.

[FoxRacing81]

Yfz is just faster....4 of my friends have 450r and 3 have YFZs. The YFZ's leave em in the dust all time....Not to say that the 450r isn't an awesome quad, the YFZ is just faster.

[400exrider0004]

In sand drags I see 450s win all the time over yfzs!

[sampleez]

in sand who has the better tires makes a HUGE difference. and rider weight changes things

but from my experiences, the yfz is usually faster, unless the honda has quite a few more mods, or a better/lighter rider.

[Over-land 450r]

there both great but yamahas record hasnt been reliable. the stator,on the 04' and with the starter the go bad with a hicomp piston honda has the crappy frame design but ou can get rewelded

[redlineranger]

i'd say both are winners in there own ways if you can afford them

things are gettin expensive these days:(

[2006YFZ450]

The YFZ 450 will blow the TRX 450 out of the water

[wilkin250r]

Really? Blow it out of the water?

We're not comparing a YFZ450 against a 250EX here. True, the YFZ appears to have the edge in many different types of riding over a 450R, but it's not a huge, overwhelming difference as your post suggests.

[z400roosteR]

In '05 (maybe '06 New Raptor hasn't been tested yet..) The YFZ-450 was the fastest quad out of the box/off the show room floor, So for speed the YFZ is faster.

[yellowex26]

im down In Harrison County

[honda400ex2003]

450r is faster according to what I read in the dirtwheels a few months ago. It was faster than the old yfz, not the 2006. It was like two miles an hour faster. Just my two cents though. Steve

[fmfrida800]

yfz

[FUR92]

I hear the YFZ beats you up more.

Honda all the way. (OK the Yamaha's faster.)

[adrenaline]

the yfz's powerband is totaly different from the honda that has alot to do with it..also i think depends on the rider mainly..the honda has more torque too

[toofidyare]

the yfz no doubt......the hondas garbage

[adrenaline]

Originally posted by toofidyare
the yfz no doubt......the hondas garbage

uh ohhh...no he didnt..lol

[redlineranger]

Originally posted by toofidyare
the yfz no doubt......the hondas garbage

your garbage

[onefast400ex]

i think twofidyare is a piece of ****

[400exrider0004]

quote:Originally posted by toofidyare
the yfz no doubt......the hondas garbage



your garbage

[adrenaline]

on a webiste called "exriders.com"
you should be banned...JMO

LOL...:devil:

[frankiedizzle56]

yfz

[ALLUWANT]

all i know is both bikes are fast but ive raced bout a dozen in the drags and the closest race ive had is about 3 bikes behind me. my 450r is stock for now and only 1 yfz has been stock. ive rode them and they are the most uncomfortable bike ever made. i had a guy that owned a yfz hop on my bike and when he got done he ended up traded his for a honda

[NJ honda]

Originally posted by toofidyare
the yfz no doubt......the hondas garbage






honda....garbage....so guys how many problems does honda have.....its like a chevy ford thing.....the honda being the chevy...

[sampleez]

Originally posted by ALLUWANT
all i know is both bikes are fast but ive raced bout a dozen in the drags and the closest race ive had is about 3 bikes behind me. my 450r is stock for now and only 1 yfz has been stock. ive rode them and they are the most uncomfortable bike ever made. i had a guy that owned a yfz hop on my bike and when he got done he ended up traded his for a honda

http://www.yfzcentral.com/invision/style_emoticons/smilies/strokin.gif lets se some vids of you beating a modded yfz with your stock r..........cause i call bs

[Over-land 450r]

its not the bike its the rider. i swear to god i beat a 450r with a 200lbs rider stock with my 05 660raptor with just a jet kit, k&n, and no muffler and i weighed 115lbs then

[400exrider0004]

yah it does depend on the rider...but the comfort levels are different on each

[400EXBill]

My 400ex would take them both

[adrenaline]

Originally posted by 400EXBill
My 400ex would take them both

lol..the 450r is way more comfortable...the only thing i like about the y is its lower and tighter..but hondas are so muhc more reliable and the rid eheight is easily fixed

[ALLUWANT]

i bet any amount of money your 400ex would not beat my 450r. if u live in ohio meat up and get some. i will take your money. and as far as honda being chevy the only thing ive ever done to my honda s is lube my chain and throw **** on the yamaha boys. ive owned hondas my whole life. ive had yamaha boys ride my hondas and sell there yamahas and buy hondas. im not saying nothin bad bout yamaha but look. they have and extra cam, 1.5 points higher compression and a better flowing head design and still can only keep up with honda. the hondas are detuned. so stop talkin till u know the facts

[jsmith2232]

i've got a 400 ex and i've spent alot of time in the sand this summer and i feel alot more confident of having a good chance of taking a 450r in a drag than the yfz. If the rider is good then the yfz will have the upper hand all the way next to my 400 but the 450r doesn't really show until it hits its higher rpms and longer gears then it pulls ahead of me in 3 rd gear. they are both fast quads but i think the yfz will win with equal mods and riders.

[ALLUWANT]

man i can understand where u come from. all i do is drag race every weekend. ive never been beat my a 400ex. i had a 400ex for 5 years. i had way more done to it than u do. my 450r is a lot stonger than my 400. i have raced just about everything and unless the yamaha has had the total motor redone with after market parts i havent been beat by one with only bolt ons. so thats all im saying

[400exrider0004]

alluwant what kind of mods do u have on your 450?

[sampleez]

he said it was stock......

but he also said he beat a modded yfz with his stock r by at the least 3 bike lenghts :rolleyes: .........so who knows

[400exrider0004]

he said it was stock?:eek2:

[ALLUWANT]

yes my bike is stock. i put an aftermarket foam filter in it for the throttle response and dropped one tooth on the front sprocket. for a little more low end. when we drag race around the races are set up 330 ft. i beat them pretty bad within that range im not saying that with there mods that they wouldnt pull on me on the big end. i would hope so. but in the actual race thats what happens. and it wont be stock any more my parts will be showing up this week

[MR.BIG]

Everybody thinks these yamaha's are so fast. My friend has a yfz with a high compression piston, head is ported,cam exhaust and when we run around a track we have built we are neck and neck on the straightaways. When I put a high compression piston in and get my head ported it will be bye bye. It's all talk but when his battery went dead is was the honda pulling him so he could jump start it. Honda is better and more comfortable and has quite a bit more torque. The yfz is faster off the showroom floor but who cares how fast they are stock how many people leave them stock and there is alot of hidden power in the honda motor.

[sampleez]

i'm not saying that the yfz isn't hugely faster than the r. but it is faster with similar smaller mods, and then it depends on who builds it for the higher end motors.

torque isn't that important in mx. just look at what dasa did with his latest motor. he sacraficed quite a bit of lower power and torque for some huge mid to top gains

blah blah blah on the battery issue. if he bought a $50 part he wouldn't have any probs. i've had mine for 7 months without one prob with the bike. and without lights or the resistor kit. i even left the key one overnight and it fired up no prob.

i wish you pansy a sses would get over the seat. i like the seat and wouldn't wan't a bigger one for a few reasons.

and you're right about the honda having hidden power, duh....all these high tech motors do. but it's harder to do and most people don't wanna/cant afford to spend big bucks for someone to find it. sure, dan can get 65 horse, but you prolly don't wanna know how much it is to get it there.

[MR.BIG]

Torque doesn't matter in motorcross that is a stupidest thing I have heard. So I guess when your on a tight motorcross track what in the hell is topend power going to do for you.

[sampleez]

ok......explain this. if you need so much torque for a tight course.....why does all but a few of the 250cc supercross guys ride 2 strokes??? when the 450's have soo much more torque :confused:

[Tom TRX250R]

torque isn't that important in mx


sampleez,
That is by far one of the dumbest comments I have ever heard!!! Alright buddy if torque isn't necessary on a track why do all motor builders build low end motors for it?? I have tried riding my 250R with the drag cylinder (ALL TOP END) on the track and it wears you out real quick. Then you switch to the low end porting and you go faster and don't wear out as quick!

[badbanshee]

yfz by along shot ridden both both pretty good but i would have to say the yfz

[sampleez]

look at the dasa section of this site. he posted a dyno of one of his latest motors, and it didn't really take off until the mid and top end. and this is for a pro mx rider, so i'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing

and i didn't say you want a top end motor for mx.

[MR.BIG]

Originally posted by sampleez
ok......explain this. if you need so much torque for a tight course.....why does all but a few of the 250cc supercross guys ride 2 strokes??? when the 450's have soo much more torque :confused:

The simple answer to that question is they are all powervalved cylinders which give you a lot of lowend through mid power. This is why half of the 250r's out there are now running PV cylinders.

[Punk'd]

Alright stop with the BS and wait boys. The 06 450r has been released from its cage!!!!:blah:

[Honda TRX250ex]

the yfz would win in a drag but the 450r would win in a track
it also depens on the riders

[400exrider0004]

what about the 06 honda and the 06 yamaha???? now who would win??

[Over-land 450r]

honda is gonaa kick a.s.s, again there will be no match

[400exrider0004]

^^^^^ I agree

[MR.BIG]

The honda is the best hands down.

[Jersey450R]

Originally posted by 400exrider0004
what about the 06 honda and the 06 yamaha???? now who would win??
I'm gonna have to securely say honda on this one.

[raptor_02]

i still say the yamaha but hat's off to honda for stepping up to the plate

[Honda TRX250ex]

no dout about it honda got it
look i rhymed im gangsta now :p

[blackwell17]

i dont see anything rhyming ....it and it are the same word lol

[Honda TRX250ex]

dout and about son dont mess with my skillz hommie! :p

[450robot]

we're not gonna know the comparison of the 06 yfz and r until they do a test

becuase both upped there motors this year


the yfz with the nw crank and head ports
and the new bore and stroke 450r

i think the yfz will still be faster, the motor design just has more of a kicky edge while the 450r will always be mellow

[panteramatt]

I dont see how you guys can compare the comfort of each. If your really out there riding hard than you shouldnt be sitting much at all! I can ride my yfz all day long and Im 6'3" and 240#'s. All I did was lower the pegs and raise the bars and its great. All my yfz has is a full exhaust even the stock filter and it beats my friends 450r with full exhaust and intake mods and hes a very good rider and 60 #'s lighter than me!