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bigstud
07-14-2005, 08:38 PM
OK, I need some help. I am 6" tall and weigh 225lbs. I have an 85' atc250r and I do fine on it, but in January I broke my ankle and have trouble starting it. I guess I need an electric start bike. I go to the dunes at Pismo ,Ca and that is where I do most of my riding. I bought the kids a pair of 250ex but they are to small and I want more power. This is the bad part, there are so many diffrent bikes out there 400's and up to the new 700 that I don't know which bike to buy. I went to the local atv shop that carries all brands. The salesman told me that the yfz450 was for racing only and should be rebult every 20 hours, that sounded pretty funny but he said he wasn't joking. He suggested the pdeditor 500. He didn't have any Raptors in stock and didn't know when he would be getting any. He kept pusshing the Polaris, but I think he had so many in stock he was trying to get rid of some of them. He only had a couple of 450r ( kick start anyway) to bad I have always been a honda guy. One Bombideer or some such thing it was big and heavy looking ,but it was a sport bike. Anyway I know I wrote quite a bit here, but I just needed some advise. Oh by the way the bike i end up buying will stay stock. I know it's boring but a lot less problems that way.:confused: Thanks for the help in advance.:(

450r51
07-14-2005, 09:04 PM
i like the predator and the 450r r nice, id say go with the pred. there a great all around bike. stay away from the bombardier(ds650) and the rappy. and since u dont like kickstart then i guess the 450r is out for u. the 400s r good but dont have great power, so id say get the pred., there a great bike and built to last........ wow cant beleive i jsut said that.:eek2:

and the guy saying the yfz has to be rebuilt every 20hrs, is bs.

bigstud
07-14-2005, 09:38 PM
Thanks for the help. I like the looks of the Preditor andI did sit on the bike and it was comfortable. The dealership had two different ones, the orange ones were the regular models and the white ones were rejetted at the factory and had an upgraded pipe. The orange ones were 6399.00 and the white rejetted were 6699.00. I don't know if this is a good price or a little high. This was the first dealership that I looked at,but I think I will find a different dealership. It didn't sound like that salesman was very up on the products he was selling. He made the yfz 450 sound like a disposable bike and I have only heard good things about them.:ermm:

Jackal
07-15-2005, 01:47 AM
I wouldnt pay that much for the predator if I were you.. Go to a different dealer.. Depending on what you want, it comes with plenty of power and speed stock, you should go with the TLD model, and if it isnt enough, upgrade it yourself...

JLSLEP500
07-15-2005, 02:02 AM
The white one is an LE and the orange one is a TLD. I have a LE and the fox shock are smooth. It came with a WB slip-on and it isn't jetted. It has stock jetting 150main. Also the LE has a different gearing than the TLD. LE has the standard gearing. I had a KFX and for me I made the right choice with the LE.

PredMan88
07-15-2005, 10:03 AM
I juts love my pred...I have heard many good things about the yfz and I have heard bad. I also think the pred wuld fit u better than the yfz as well cuz the yfz's are a little on the small side. But with whatever u chose, you will be very happy. O yea and the pred has reverse and the yfz dont so u can keep that in mind as well if u dont like getting off ur bike and pushing;)

Big Chuck
07-15-2005, 02:16 PM
I'm 6'4" and go around 300 pounds in all my race gear. I have over 50 races on my 03 Predator and love it. The quad has proven to me to be bullet proof with all the abuse I have given it over the last two years of racing XC. Being larger than most riders, it fits me well. I have sat on the honda and yamaha and it feels like my heels are up my rear. I say if you go with the Pred, you won't regret it.

iceracer17
07-15-2005, 03:49 PM
Wait till after the dealer meeting.I was told possibly some nice discounts on preds.;)

bigstud
07-16-2005, 12:35 AM
Thanks for all your help guys. The dealer also said the tld model had a long range from 4th to 5th gear, that was another reason he suggested the le model. Any thougths????

05predle
07-16-2005, 07:52 AM
The TLD has short gearing 2 through 4 so you will have to do more shifting but will have more immediate power through those gears. The LE has standard transmission, less shifting because of longer gears. both 1st and 5th gears are the same. On the LE (I own one) there is a big drop off from 1st to second gear so if your more of going slower through the trails i would get the tld and LE if your a faster rider or more open areas. though the le already comes with the Pure polaris exhaust which helps alot. Just drop in a k&n and put four more disks on the exhaust ($65 total) and you wont even notice it. Every time i shift out of first into second at high rpms my front end comes up or i leave a rooster tail. Either one you will be happy with. I would go with the LE because of the extras that come with it.

bigstud
07-16-2005, 05:42 PM
OK, you lost me. What do you mean by disks on the exhaust???:confused:

polaris bob
07-16-2005, 09:50 PM
The white bros pipe is a tuneable pipe. You can change the power output as well as the sound level by adding or subtracting disk's from the end of the muffler. Most guys are running right around 10 disk's on their modded preddys.

Here is a fairly good pic of what the pipe looks like with 10 disk's in place.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/polarisbob/IMG_1114.jpg

polaris bob
07-16-2005, 09:56 PM
Big stud, you are about the same size as I am. The pred will fit you just fine IMO!
I am the big guy stiiting on the pred. I would suggest going with the LE unless you are really into slow speed very tight woods type riding.

Mine might look like a 05 LE but it is standard 03 preddy with just a few bolt on's !! LOL

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/polarisbob/IMG_1444.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/polarisbob/IMG_1437.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/polarisbob/IMG_1409.jpg

bigstud
07-16-2005, 10:44 PM
Thanks for the help Bob: Thanks for the pictures too, awsome bike!!!!!!!.:)

polaris bob
07-17-2005, 08:22 AM
Thanks

05predle
07-17-2005, 08:22 AM
Bigstud, I am also 6ft 215 and it fits me perfect.

bigstud
07-18-2005, 12:31 AM
OK guys, Im leaning toward the PRED. but, are there any problems that are common in this bike? For example I read that the rear lug nuts won't stay on the 450r and that guys are buying aftermarket lug nuts. That's the kind of thing I would like to know about the Pred before I spend the money. Oh, one more thing. I called a dealer in Los Angeles about 2-1/2 hours south of here for a price quote and he told me that the dealer here in Fresno was the cheapest out the door at 7100.00 ( 6699.00 sticker price ) that he had heard of. An there was no way he could beat or match that price. He sells the LE down there for 7800.00 out the door. Thanks for all the help.:cool:

polaris bob
07-18-2005, 10:02 AM
Good god those things are spendy on your side of the world! There is no way any dealer around here could get those kind of prices!

IMO Keep checking around. Might want to look out of state also!

PredMan88
07-18-2005, 11:15 AM
^^^^I agree...My father got his 05 for 5700 and I got my 04 for 4900 but it was a leftover;)

05predle
07-18-2005, 12:10 PM
I paid 7100 out the door the day it came in to the dealers in Mi. In regards to quality of pred. http://atvrideronline.com/features/3f_0502_12hour/

Its the only one that didnt break down.

bigstud
07-18-2005, 04:44 PM
Alright guys, I did it. I bought a new 2005 predator LE. I bought it from a dealer about 10 miles from here. Here is the breakdown on the price 5908.35 for the bike 500.00 freight and handling 45.00 doc fee 546.65 for tax and license. Comes out to 7000.00 even- out the door. The first thing I did when I got home was buy a set of fat boy nerf bars in red. I don't even get to pick up the bike until tomorrow. I am very excited. Thanks for all your help guys.:D :D :D :D :D .

05predle
07-18-2005, 05:19 PM
congratulations! Enjoy.
Now get a drop in k&n and extra disks for the exhaust. 65 bucks total. I didnt have to rejet

05predle
07-18-2005, 05:21 PM
predatorowners dot com is a good site for any questions also.

bigstud
07-18-2005, 07:01 PM
Perfect, I will check it out and Thanks.:D

polaris bob
07-19-2005, 01:13 AM
Look me up over there ( predatorowners.com ) and I will help you out with whatever questions you might have!

congrats

bigstud
07-19-2005, 11:19 PM
:cool: Thanks polaris bob. I will be at Pismo on the beach camping on July 22,23,and 24th. If you are there stop in and say howdy. I drive a 2005 4 door 4x4 f350 ,it's a bright screaming yellow pickup and I will be pulling a 24ft candy apple red gooseneck cattle trailer.( it's what I haul my mules and my bikes in) It's pretty easy to spot. We usually camp around the first couple of mile markers. I would love to discuss the bikes, you have so much cool stuff on your's you must sound like one of those high dollar livestock auctioneers when you start telling about all the accessories. ( LOL);) Anyway my real life name is Jeff.so stop by and have a cold one and we can visit awhile. Hope to see you there.

polaris bob
07-20-2005, 02:53 AM
Seeing as how I am from Michigan, I don't think I will be seeing you at Pismo in the near furture !! Just a little too far to go for a weekend ride! LOL

But thanks on the props on my bike. I like it!!

bigstud
07-20-2005, 08:40 AM
10-4 Bob.:D :D :D

JLSLEP500
07-21-2005, 12:49 AM
Congrats! You should be happy with your choice. I'm still amazed on how mch quads cost there. I must have got a smoking deal fro $5975 OTD. I should maybe sell mine and turn a profit. Maybe even get the new raptor.



No way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

iceracer17
07-30-2005, 12:03 PM
Was just at the dealer today
Standard $5195,TLD $5495,LE $5595+ TAX

bigstud
07-30-2005, 04:17 PM
OUCH!!!:o It hurts living here with all the nuts. I bought my wife a yfz450 2006 model yesterday. I may regret it but I thought the pred may be a little large for her. Price otd 7075.00 That's even cheaper than the bike I priced in LA where the cheapest bikes in the state are. The guy in LA wanted 7200.00 otd final price. I envy you guys in other states. One of theese days I"m moving to Oklahoma for sure.

400exc
07-31-2005, 04:04 PM
get the 06 450r with electric start, and reverse!!!!!!

iceracer17
07-31-2005, 04:38 PM
I've been pricing the 06' yfz's too $6699 +5%tax.450r's are around $5600.Choices,choices:p

bigstud
07-31-2005, 09:07 PM
The 450r's have kick start. I read that if they don't fire on the first try they can be tough to start. The 06 yfz450's don't have reverse so!!!!! it's up to you. I have always been a honda guy but, I don't race and I don't ride as much as most of you do so any bike would do the job for me. I just read that the two best bikes out now were the Pred. and the YFZ450. Good luck on picking a new one.:)

cmevis
09-23-2005, 02:54 PM
Polaris Bob,
saw your pics and was wondering where you got your aftermarket plastic. Thanks.

MAaudioX10
09-23-2005, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by cmevis
Polaris Bob,
saw your pics and was wondering where you got your aftermarket plastic. Thanks.

I'm not Bob, but that isn't aftermarket plastic. That is actually Polaris plastic.

Retails for about $260 for the set. Go talk to your dealer.

There is also blue, red, black, and (of course) white.