06 450rs

[450rboy]

did they change anything to the 06 450r

[desratt]

and that my son is the question

[12 o'clock]

the year

[Ridin' Jesse]

Originally posted by 12 o'clock
the year

very observant!! :D

[Prey]

they changed more than that, but i cant remember all the changes are except they lowered the engine to lower the COG.

[Mxracer53]

im pretty sure they are making some because they already released the othe 06 models on their website. probly ectric start and new color.

[04'400ex'er]

does anybody know when the 06's will be released?

[Prey]

no electric start......just some geometry changes as far as i can remember, i had the list of mods broken down for me but it was a few months ago and i cant recall all of them

[450RgETiRdONE]

Originally posted by Mxracer53
im pretty sure they are making some because they already released the othe 06 models on their website. probly ectric start and new color.



Better not be electric start! :mad: But its a honda so it kicks over every time:devil: :devil:

[TrX450rKiD]

Originally posted by Prey
no electric start......just some geometry changes as far as i can remember, i had the list of mods broken down for me but it was a few months ago and i cant recall all of them
Wait .. don't tell me - your uncle's, best friend's wife's, cousin's, step-father told you that?

C'mon man, don't feed us that BS .. your guess is as good as anyone else's. Give it up ...

[troutman561]

why do ppl have a prob with electric start.. im confused, its not like its gona kill what the bike is, besides if they do youll still get to have ur kick start option im sure.. i guess its the same with the ppl who have a problem with the 05 400ex.. oh well people dont like change i guess:confused:

[nowukno]

I think it should get a new rear link but other than that i think its perfect.

i heard redesigned frame...I want one bad cause mine is bent right now. I'm just gonna wait to see what the 06's is

[Ridin' Jesse]

Originally posted by troutman561
why do ppl have a prob with electric start.. im confused, its not like its gona kill what the bike is, besides if they do youll still get to have ur kick start option im sure.. i guess its the same with the ppl who have a problem with the 05 400ex.. oh well people dont like change i guess:confused:

Reasons i dont want electric start:

1) I dont want my quad to burn to the ground.
2) It adds alot of weights.
3) Every battery opperated quad i own has had electrical problems

Here is an example of number 1:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/HiPer450/Quad%20Stuff/yamajunk.jpg

i race the gncc series and over the years i have sat along the track about 5 miles back in the woods because the electric start did nt work. between fuse blowing, shorts in wires, etc. i even dnf ed a race at the penton in 03 because i got stuck and my kill cord came out when i got off to pick up my quad. when i got back on and hit the button it would nt start. i check everything and found out that my starter button had mud stuck in it and i lost contact . i ride a black 05 450r now. if you are not handicaped and able to walk. you should be able to start a 450r. if not get a golf cart or somthing.

[motox450]

Electric start is nice, but gentleman my 115lb fiance can kick my r over no problem and if she can do it in one kick, noone on this site should have problems.

[iceracer65]

electric start is for ppl who dont wanna get their skirt caught on the kick starter!!!:devil:

[TrX450rKiD]

Originally posted by iceracer65
electric start is for ppl who dont wanna get their skirt caught on the kick starter!!!:devil:
They better wear a shorter skirt then :D

[troutman561]

i never said i had a problem with it kick start.. and like i said youll still get the kick start option more than likely if they do go e-start... but everyone seems to get mad if an upgrade is made.. for example.. if they increase the piston compression or something.. i see people would probably complain about that.. not trying to argue.. but when the 06 does come out are people just going to complain and say it sucks just like the 99-04 400ex owners have about the 05 400ex's

[troutman561]

oh yea.. im not just talking abut the plastics on the 400ex.. because i do agree they should have kept it the same.. but dont have a problem with them..

[Norris3710]

what happened to that yfz i am just wondering how that can get so hot and melt the metal but yet the gas tank is not burned or blew up also if it got that hot wouldnt the tires of melted

[user101]

Originally posted by Treebasher573
i race the gncc series and over the years i have sat along the track about 5 miles back in the woods because the electric start did nt work. between fuse blowing, shorts in wires, etc. i even dnf ed a race at the penton in 03 because i got stuck and my kill cord came out when i got off to pick up my quad. when i got back on and hit the button it would nt start. i check everything and found out that my starter button had mud stuck in it and i lost contact . i ride a black 05 450r now. if you are not handicaped and able to walk. you should be able to start a 450r. if not get a golf cart or somthing.

sounds like someone didn't prep the quad very well.

[user101]

Originally posted by iceracer65
electric start is for ppl who dont wanna get their skirt caught on the kick starter!!!:devil:

i don't know why you guys are against elec. start so much. i've never had one problem in the 4 1/2 years ive owned my 400ex with the starter button or it not starting because of dirt/mud/debris. personally, i like to be able to hit a button and it crank right up, it doesnt make any less of a man or someone who "does't want to get the skirt caught on the kick starter":rolleyes:

i replaced the battery and solenoid the year before last because it set up during the winter and the battery wouldnt hold a charge.

Originally posted by user101


i replaced the battery and solenoid the year before last because it set up during the winter and the battery wouldnt hold a charge. point exactly...you won't have to do that on the kickstarters ;)

[troutman561]

well then i guess its official... the people with e-start are p u ssys because we may have to replace a battery every 3 years and because we just press buttons... well now that im here saying this, do any 400ex,z400,raptor,yfz, or kfx owners wanna go skirt shopping with me saturday?

[Jonas]

Honda will have some changes to the trx450r and will announce them in September at the dealer show in Las Vegas. As stated before, if they don't announce a current model by now, then there are some changes to be had. There weren't any changes last year and the '05 model was already announced by now. They spend a great deal of money to conduct a convention in Vegas and will announce any changes only then. I will be going and be sure to take some pictures and post them here. I'm sure it won't be something that will make everyone's dreams come true. There has never been a quad out there that has sold off the showroom floor and satisfied everyone. Everyone has different tastes for certain features. I have an '05 trx450r and am very happy with it personally.

As far as electric start is concerned, I just like kicking over a motorcycle. It is part of the fun for me. Most of the time I kick it sitting down when I am out riding with one kick. I am cool with people that like an electric start, I had it on my 400ex. I personally did have issues with electric start on my 400ex, a part of which was my fault when I powder coated the frame. The other part was just having to keep it on a charger when not ridding it. Now that I own a 450r, I enjoy the kick better. There is just something good feeling about kicking over a bike and instantly hearing the motor fire up in my opinion.

[teamtackett14]

they will most likely come out with the 06 in september and i talked to a honda rep at the wisp and he didnt come and say that they would but he let on like the 06s would have electric start along with some other changes

[TrX450rKiD]

Originally posted by teamtackett14
he was hinting at they would come out with kickstart along with some other changes here and there
It already has kickstart ...

[450Racer]

i have a high compression piston in, i'm 124 pounds and i hit it first time sitting down. plus i used to leave the key on my 400ex all the time and the battery would go dead. it takes a lot less effort to kick it than push it down a hill and get it caught in gear.

[cals400ex]

they are going to put a kick start on the 450r's???? i can't wait!! :devil:

[Jonas]

They will definately announce it at the September dealer show. They bring all of their dealers across the country for a reason. It is to announce new product, updated models, and to place orders. Whether the 450r will have major changes is another story, but it will be changed you can quote me on that. Honda has announced all of their 06 models that have not significantly changed but there is nothing on the 06 trx450r that means it will change.

[35charlie]

For all those who have such a problem with e-start: You must not spend much time side hilling in tree-covered dunes or woods. There are plenty of times I am sitting on the left footpeg while riding, barely able to reach the throttle. When I stalled it on the 400ex the magic button sure was nice. Try kick starting when the right side is downhill and the only thing holding the quad from rolling is you, acting as a counterweight. I've since had to do it a couple times on my 450R and the only way was to have someone else hold the left handlebar down. Other than those times, I have no problem with the kicker. I spent 10 years on a 350x. Talk about hard to kick sometimes!

I have a 400ex bought new in '98 and I've never charged, changed or had 1 single problem with the battery or starter. It sits for many weeks or months during the winter and faithfully starts every time (provided I drain the old gas out of the carb before trying to start it). I'm not sure why e-start gets such a bad rap.

I still think the best answer is just like the CRF's: A trx450R and trx450X. :)

[Jonas]

I think it's more the other way around.

For people that stall there quad alot it is a must though.

[iceracer65]

Originally posted by troutman561
well now that im here saying this, do any 400ex,z400,raptor,yfz, or kfx owners wanna go skirt shopping with me saturday?

LOL!!!:devil:

[iceracer65]

ps...to say there were no changes to the '06 is a stretch.

both me and my boss have early '04's...one of the kids we work with got a black '05

this week the kid with the '05 went to kentucky to practice at bill ballance's track then ride the national mx at london ky. when he was at the track he heard a squealing noise so he immediatley shut the bike down. he found out that he lost his drain plug and all the engine oil.(long story)

anyway... we thrashed on my boss's '04 and tore the motor out, then sent it down to ky so the kid could race the national. he reported back that the '04 felt like a pooch, eventhough it had an hrc kit and the '05 did not.

honda likes to do things quietly. i recently rode a bone stock '04 300ex, i hadnt riddin one since they were the chit like in '95. all i could say was holy cow!!! that thing seemed like a rocket compared to the older ones.

[35charlie]

Originally posted by iceracer65
honda likes to do things quietly. i recently rode a bone stock '04 300ex, i hadnt riddin one since they were the chit like in '95. all i could say was holy cow!!! that thing seemed like a rocket compared to the older ones.


Ditto that for me. I an early 400ex and early 450R. Both are kind of dogs compared to a couple others I ride with. My 400 always signed off earlier when hillclimbing and my 450 just doesn't have as snappy of a throttle response. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised that Honda (as any manufacturer) fine tunes the assembly process and tweaks a bit as they go.

[TRX450R2]

Mine seems better out of the crate as well? only done 2 hours so far and is freeing up nicely! 05 trx450r is great and have ordered new 06, eta early October! Can't wait! exciting stuff with EFI coming soon as well!

[Jonas]

Don't count on early October for the '06.

[TRX450R2]

Originally posted by Jonas
Don't count on early October for the '06.



MMMmmmmmmmm! I never count my chickens until they hatch, Cheers Jonas!;)

[ridinredodb]

ive noticed that the 05's are faster too. i have a 04 450R with the full HRC kit and a full system HMF ballance carbonfiber exhaust and my friend just got a new 05 450R and its bone stock and we drag raced a few times and i barely beat him!

the last run i let him have a quads length head start and i didnt catch him til 5th gear!!! i mean just imagine if he had a HRC kit and a pipe!!!

i dont know what they changed but we need to find out so we can make our 04's just as fast or faster

[cals400ex]

Originally posted by ridinredodb
ive noticed that the 05's are faster too. i have a 04 450R with the full HRC kit and a full system HMF ballance carbonfiber exhaust and my friend just got a new 05 450R and its bone stock and we drag raced a few times and i barely beat him!

the last run i let him have a quads length head start and i didnt catch him til 5th gear!!! i mean just imagine if he had a HRC kit and a pipe!!!

i dont know what they changed but we need to find out so we can make our 04's just as fast or faster


what jetting you run? what gearing? is your throttle cable adjusted properly?

[ridinredodb]

i keep my quad very well maintained. my jetting is... HRC needle on the position honda recommends with the HRC kit, 50 pilot and 180 main

my gearing now is stock 14-38. ive had it at the drag strip with the 14 and 13 tooth and it didnt really make a difference.

ive never touched my throttle cable but it will hit the rev limiter so...

im just thinking the 05's have to be faster, honda did something.

[cals400ex]

how much slack is in the throttle lever? if there is too much it will bottom out and the carb won't open all the way up.

[ridinredodb]

there is no slack whatsoever in the throttle cable

[Jonas]

There the same bike as far as what you are talking about. Honda is not going to add four horsepower to there quad and not tell you for that matter. What is the weight difference between you two? Every 7-10 pounds is like adding 1 horsepower.

[cals400ex]

i don't know. i gained around 8 bike lengths when dragging from adding a full sparks pipe and the hrc kit.

[TRX450R2]

Just dragged my buddy with 04 and me on new 05! He has my old 450r with full pro circuit and I only have slip on! Mine pulls away for first 100yds then he finally catches me in fourth and then can't pull away from me and then I slowly pull away again in top gear and finally finish after about half mile, about ten bike lengths in front ! we swap bikes and then he beats me so I think the o5 has just a small advantage?? I still had the 118 main and airbox lid on as well, so we are going to rejet my 05 and cut air lid and try again? Interesting so far!!

[cals400ex]

what jet does the bike with the pipe have in it? what tires?

[awj8074]

Originally posted by Jonas
There the same bike as far as what you are talking about. Honda is not going to add four horsepower to there quad and not tell you for that matter. What is the weight difference between you two? Every 7-10 pounds is like adding 1 horsepower. so when my friend that is 100pounds lessthen me rides it he has a 10hp advantage over me?

[Shawn H]

Ya know I bought a 05 and I htought it was faster than my 04 when it was stock.

My friend thought the same thing but I was sure it was in our heads:huh


Either way I have money down on a new 06.

Going to be Sweet!!!!!:cool:

[Jonas]

Originally posted by awj8074
so when my friend that is 100pounds lessthen me rides it he has a 10hp advantage over me?

Yep, that's about right. If you are both on the same quad racing, the results should be like a 300ex against a 400ex in a drag. Weight makes a big difference which can be partly made up with rider skill.

[TRX450R2]

Originally posted by cals400ex
what jet does the bike with the pipe have in it? what tires?


04 has 185 main and full pipe ,also we have same tyres and pressures with both on new tyres!

My new 05 with same main jet and mods should be faster?? should be able to let you know in a couple of days? Cheers, Jeff
Also I am 5 pounds heavier than he is, So I should be slower???

[ridinredodb]

Originally posted by Jonas
There the same bike as far as what you are talking about. Honda is not going to add four horsepower to there quad and not tell you for that matter. What is the weight difference between you two? Every 7-10 pounds is like adding 1 horsepower.


well... i weigh 135 and he weighs 150