Exhaust ?

[12 o'clock]

I was going to go with the top of the line Yoshimura Carbon fiber for my 450 but it is going to cost about 650$ Is it really worth all that and also running the top of the line series like that is ther any thing else that i would have to do other than jet the thing also until then i was going to take the packing out of the stock muffler but did not know if it would mess anything up doing that any help would be great and remember W F O

[JRP]

pulse charger or rossier. i like rossier.

[450r51]

its not worth it i have the same pipe ur talkin bout for my r, and i hate it id go with the rossier, they r the best pipes bare none, and its a hell of a lot less

[honda350r]

If you want the best pipe buy a Sparks . They fit real nice and look even better..

[cals400ex]

the dyno i saw on a built bike is right here:

http://www.wppracing.com/links.htm


i can tell you that i run a sparks pipe. it did make drastic gains throughout the power band. however, it may not be the best one out there.

[12 o'clock]

well does the sparks come in the carbon fiber and how much is it and how much different in sound does it have from the yoshi

[12 o'clock]

also is there a substantial difference in the torque

[JRP]

i dont belive sparks has a carbon fiber pipe out yet. im not 2 sure. and i belive that sparks is more than rossier. i still think rossier is your best bet. and u can choose from a short can or a longer one.
i like rossier

[12 o'clock]

do they sell roosier in dennis kirk

[JRP]

uhh not 2 sure. i know that at one time they were on sale for about 400. Just call Rossier direct 1-715-341-9919

[Punk'd]

Im stuck between the Rossier and Sparks pipe and I cant make a decision:confused: And I need the sparky and the right jets and would like to spend under $500:D

[JRP]

there on sale untill july 1st. then they go back up. im not 2 sure what the standard price it. if i was you i would get the shortcan. but its up 2 u.

[TrX450rKiD]

I LOVE my PC .. best purchase I've ever made ;)

[12 o'clock]

kinda wanted a carbon fiber for looks but i guess if i end up cartwheeling it down the road sometime i will at least save some money by going with the roosier

[12 o'clock]

rossier i mean

[JRP]

yea rossier is rele good.

[TrX450rKiD]

Originally posted by JRP
yea rossier is rele good.
We know! You've said it 3 times in this one thread! :blah:

I'm just busting your balls ;)

[DaveEX7]

Originally posted by TrX450rKiD
We know! You've said it 3 times in this one thread! :blah:

man yosh pipe fing rock have ne of you watched the moto or supercross series everyone is using yosh

[TrX450rKiD]

Originally posted by yzfmxer
man yosh pipe fing rock have ne of you watched the moto or supercross series everyone is using yosh
No they dont ...

[Doak450r]

i have a rossier and came from the sparks pipe and i think it was a great decision. if i were you i would go with rossier or pulsecharger if you need quieter i would go with the pulsecharger

[cals400ex]

Originally posted by Doak450r
i have a rossier and came from the sparks pipe and i think it was a great decision. if i were you i would go with rossier or pulsecharger if you need quieter i would go with the pulsecharger



how did these 2 pipes compare? i realize the rossier puts out a little more power but is it anything noticable on the bike? if so, where in the rpm range is it noticable?

[Jeff2269]

Originally posted by yzfmxer
man yosh pipe fing rock have ne of you watched the moto or supercross series everyone is using yosh


Actually, everyone seems to be running white brothers pipes including, K. Windham, C. Reed, D. Vuillemin, T. Preston, E. Fonseca, H. Voss

[mikes450r]

Originally posted by Jeff2269
Actually, everyone seems to be running white brothers pipes including, K. Windham, C. Reed, D. Vuillemin, T. Preston, E. Fonseca, H. Voss

it doesnt matter what the pros are running...they are all supported by what ever product it is that they run...those guys would win with whatever their using..

[Ridin' Jesse]

I love my sparks

[ballbraker1980]

wondering what everyone has heard about the scorpion full exhaust system i have a chance to get a full head pipe and tip for 100 dollars . i know that curtis sparks and hmf are great but dont know anything about the scorpion. help.

[redlined94]

I personally wouldnt buy Scorpion anything. I think the are like the off brand of 4 wheeler exhaust. Its like gettin a DG pipe, you will just be disappointed lol. thats IMO though.

[tcr450r]

Yeah go with rossier. I have a yosh and it cost me around 600 and my buddy just got the rossier short can for about 450 and its just as good, looks awesome, and sounds just like mine.

[12 o'clock]

do they have carbon fiber in ther rossier

[tcr450r]

No not that I know of

[450RGNCC]

Between the short can and the long can Rossier, would the long can have more bottom end and the short can more top end? How loud is the Rossier, and do they have an insert for it?

[tcr450r]

when I talked to the guy at rossier they said that there really isn't a difference in power between the two. He said that the short can may give you a fraction of a horsepower but he said you can barely notice it on a dyno. I don't remeber how loud the long can is, but the short can is 109 dbs without a spark arrestor insert. You can buy an insert which will quiet it down to about 101 dbs. If you are considering the rossier go with the short can, the long can is too long and looks awkward IMO. The short can looks like a normal sized silencer and with the insert it isn't outrageously loud like it is without the insert.

[ballbraker1980]

i got the scorpion full set up for 200 so i will give it a try if i dont like it i can always get the rossier or yosh set up.

[devil6]

What is the bike being used for? is it a mx bike, woods bike, or backyard weekend toy? Is sound an issue, or will it be someday? Do you ride dunes or any offroad area with sound restrictions?
Does your bike need to be spark arrested or will it need to be someday?

From what i know, and i've researched quite a bit into the whole pipe thing, the pulsecharger and rossier are the 2 best pipes on the planet period. The guys i hang with don't even talk about yosh, sparks or anything but the 2 i mentioned above.

The rossier beat the PC at the WPP test by a small margin. I can't remember if it was spark arrested or not, but the pc is and looses no power with or without it. No races were ever won simply because of the pipe on the bike. It's 95% rider at the pro level.
All things to think about when spending big $$$

[wppracing]

The first test it had the spark arrestor in. The second test it didnt because I was tuning with the a/f meter. But the Rossier had better numbers both times.

[Got nads?]

When I bought my Rossier they told me that the short can responds to mods better then long can (i.e. big bore kits).

[Got nads?]

Originally posted by 450RGNCC
Between the short can and the long can Rossier, would the long can have more bottom end and the short can more top end? How loud is the Rossier, and do they have an insert for it?


It's the other way around the long can should have better top, and short will have better low! :D

[450RGNCC]

Oh, well on 2 strokes its the opposite way, and they are what im used to, this 450r is the first 4 stroke that i have ever owned.

[devil6]

Originally posted by wppracing
The first test it had the spark arrestor in. The second test it didnt because I was tuning with the a/f meter. But the Rossier had better numbers both times. You ran the PC for a bit right? i thought you posted at .org about it feeling stronger than the dyno let on, but now your running the rossier again right? What is the difference in bike feel with the 2? What is the advantage you feel in running the rossier over the PC? just wondering.

[czrider263]

I LOVE MY ROSSIER. it makes alot of hp and looks sick.

[jmoney45]

Originally posted by czrider263
I LOVE MY ROSSIER. it makes alot of hp and looks sick.

Very hot 450. Looks great.